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Title: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Fallsview on May 17, 2011, 04:36:18 AM
Paul has been battling cancer and has exhusted his life savings.  Apparently there will be a fundraiser for Paul at the The Southern Comfort Bar in Conley, Georgia (surburban Atlanta) at 1pm on May 18th.  If anyone is in the area and loves wrestling come on down and support Mr. Wonderful.

(do you think this wrestling business needs medical insurance?)
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Montague on May 17, 2011, 06:13:21 AM
(do you think this wrestling business needs medical insurance?)


Guys like Piper & Ventura tried that 30 years ago and were blackballed.
A lot of WCW guys recieved full medical coverage, but only got a third of their pay while out of action.

Vince has always contested that his talent are independent contractors, but given the line of work, AND that they work 50 weeks per year for a million-dollar company, they should get something.
Many guys are taken care of to varying degrees when something does happen, but with the exception of the top 3-5 on the roster, it's usually a drop in the bucket.
And, that's why guys have always rushed back before they were "ready." They couldn't sustain on what Vince paid them while out.

The pro-wrestling business is unlike any other on so many levels.
 
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Playboy on May 18, 2011, 06:41:39 AM
Any place of work be it a regular job or an independant employer / employee should have proper medical insurance. Especially wrestling where guys are at risk of getting hurt every night.
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Montague on May 18, 2011, 02:58:58 PM
And, here's the real kicker:

Not only do they not provide it, but years ago, health insurance companies blacklisted pro-wrestlers from taking out policies.
Guys couldn't even buy their own coverage (which is a lot more expensive than getting a group rate with a company).
Once you put down "professional wrestler" on your application, you were automatically disqualified.

Some guys like Rude, Hennig, and a few others were lucky enough to secure a policy with Lloyds of London, which paid off immensely when they became injured.
Most, however, were not so fortunate.

Heenan broke his neck around 1985 and didn't have it fixed until he went to work for Turner about nine years later because he didn't have insurance until then.

Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Playboy on May 19, 2011, 06:29:27 AM
And, here's the real kicker:

Not only do they not provide it, but years ago, health insurance companies blacklisted pro-wrestlers from taking out policies.
Guys couldn't even buy their own coverage (which is a lot more expensive than getting a group rate with a company).
Once you put down "professional wrestler" on your application, you were automatically disqualified.

Some guys like Rude, Hennig, and a few others were lucky enough to secure a policy with Lloyds of London, which paid off immensely when they became injured.
Most, however, were not so fortunate.

Heenan broke his neck around 1985 and didn't have it fixed until he went to work for Turner about nine years later because he didn't have insurance until then.


Here's something interesting...Hot off the presses....

According to a source, WWE is now requiring all of their signed talent to personally purchase and maintain medical insurance for themselves. WWE will not be covering the cost of the insurance, but as independent contractors, the workers would be able to write off the cost of the medical insurance as a business expense.

This move had reportedly been rumored for a while, but was confirmed on Monday. The change was presented to WWE talent prior to the announcement that UFC was going to provide all of their fighters with medical insurance.

Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Montague on May 19, 2011, 06:48:36 AM
Here's something interesting...Hot off the presses....

According to a source, WWE is now requiring all of their signed talent to personally purchase and maintain medical insurance for themselves. WWE will not be covering the cost of the insurance, but as independent contractors, the workers would be able to write off the cost of the medical insurance as a business expense.

This move had reportedly been rumored for a while, but was confirmed on Monday. The change was presented to WWE talent prior to the announcement that UFC was going to provide all of their fighters with medical insurance.




This is one reason it's good that "they" came clean about the business.
Years ago - when the general public - "believed" these guys were legitimately trying to "hurt" each other, it was damn near impossible for them to get coverage.
Now, at least they can; and that's a very good thing.

I'm sure that the profession is still considered a high-risk occupation, and the premiums are outrageous, but it's worth having a policy!
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Playboy on May 19, 2011, 10:34:29 AM

This is one reason it's good that "they" came clean about the business.
Years ago - when the general public - "believed" these guys were legitimately trying to "hurt" each other, it was damn near impossible for them to get coverage.
Now, at least they can; and that's a very good thing.

I'm sure that the profession is still considered a high-risk occupation, and the premiums are outrageous, but it's worth having a policy!
I believe WCW started this all when they started giving medical coverage to their talent. Bobby Heenan took advantage of this for his neck/throat issues at the time.
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: mass 04 on August 23, 2011, 10:08:01 AM


good news
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Montague on August 24, 2011, 03:56:21 PM


good news


Good for him!
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 25, 2011, 10:17:02 AM
After throwing a beating on Vader in his flip-flops.....was there every any doubt?  8)


Good for Orndorff.  I think he is one of the most under-rated wrestlers of all-time.
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: MP on August 27, 2011, 06:53:29 PM
Can't decide if he's aged well or not.
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Montague on August 27, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
Can't decide if he's aged well or not.


He's not bad for almost 62.
 :)
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 29, 2011, 10:30:39 AM
One of my fav

Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: funk51 on August 29, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
One of my fav


great segment. now that's motovation.
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Andy Griffin on August 29, 2011, 04:31:37 PM
great segment. now that's motovation.

What the video didn't show is that she actually dated Paul for a month, then dumped him for a black man.  Story like that has gotta be true.   :)
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Montague on August 29, 2011, 06:59:38 PM
Best part is at 5:50, when he shoves her into the triceps machine "with all his might."
 ;D
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: littleguns on August 31, 2011, 07:19:38 PM


Gotta love how Rey continues to wrestle around Paul
Title: Re: Update on Paul Orndorff
Post by: Montague on September 01, 2011, 04:32:54 AM
They got rid of Heenan in favor of this tandem?


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Sad.