Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on May 17, 2011, 10:07:27 AM

Title: PM Questions Answered
Post by: gh15 on May 17, 2011, 10:07:27 AM
:-\

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=376680.msg5354449#msg5354449

There are a few women here that contribute and enjoy the place .. it's quite insulting and undeserved to insinuate "newmom" is the best and we need to emulate her to fit in

Butterbean and Princess L are 2 of the most excellent women this board has had so when you disregard them in your post it seems a little disrespectful and to tell the truth not any of us females have ever done so to you in any way

I am disappointed in that post you made and usually you are quite fair about things ... I'm curious to know why the rest of us are not up to your standards TBH

That was one of the most disappointing posts I've seen in awhile .. I find it unfair to the rest of us :(


she was example,,many other women take the fire here dont owrry i dont forget  it ,,reason i said her is because she is on the harshest board getting fire many times and dont seem to give a fuck which is what needed to survive getbig ,,

i never said no other woman was good,,to this day i still give rip diet to any female that come to me ,,i dont even bother to think just give them rip girl diets ,, all the other girls that are long time members are good too ,, she ws just example

what it meant to show was the women that just come to getbig to read it and dont participate ,,they usualy never shut their mouth on musclemayem boardings  and on getbig they are scared to talk ...the ones who are already here for many years obviously are not them

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answerd
Post by: w8m8 on May 17, 2011, 10:49:56 AM

she was example,,many other women take the fire here dont owrry i dont forget  it ,,reason i said her is because she is on the harshest board getting fire many times and dont seem to give a fuck which is what needed to survive getbig ,,

i never said no other woman was good,,to this day i still give rip diet to any female that come to me ,,i dont even bother to think just give them rip girl diets ,, all the other girls that are long time members are good too ,, she ws just example

what it meant to show was the women that just come to getbig to read it and dont participate ,,they usualy never shut their mouth on musclemayem boardings  and on getbig they are scared to talk ...the ones who are already here for many years obviously are not them

gh15 approved


Butterbean and Princess do a lot for Getbig and Ron .. they add quality that is often overlooked and underappreciated .. there have been quite a few women of quality that have been here and since left .. ~flower~ , Chick's wife , Laura Lee , the BEAST , Rip , Insomnia , CQ , and more

they may leave because of the harshness that is thrown at them when they venture into any area other than the girl's board .. but there's misogynistic posters here that get off on berating women and it's never addressed and too often it's accepted and applauded

newmom has been thru a lot of bullshit here and still has it dished out to her when an idiot needs to feel like a bad ass and bring shit up .. she's had to ignore plenty and has taken quite a few "breaks" from here to try and let it pass

if you know all this why don't you ever say anything about it ? .. just like you give credit to Rip .. why not notice she hardly comes here anymore .. this board should be just the way it is .. a place for people to be who they are and speak openly about some things that are not always positive .. the way women are treated is one thing that just continues to get worse but always gets allowed

if you give credit to one .. in all fairness you should give credit to all .. including Keith's daughter who is the newest female to try and join in here


women don't join here .. you're correct .. but it doesn't seem like anyone wants them to either



w8m8 approved
Title: Re: pm question answerd
Post by: gh15 on May 17, 2011, 10:52:27 AM
i blame.. chaos,,  :)

gh15 approved
Title: PM Questions Answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:04:31 AM
In case you forget me I am the one you assumed my height just by me saying my weight lol. here is posting:

Quote from: youngbb31 on May 13, 2011, 04:04:19 PM
i just made an account solely to say this. i've been natural bodybuilding for about 3 years hard. as many may know after those years its harder and harder to progress. i'm about 177 lbs at 9% natty. this guy has been training for what ten years or so? Looked at his pics again to make sure and it's really hard i mean really hard to believe that's attainable . look at the size of his fuking quad/hamstring in the side pose! Look at the back condition. Stage ready almost at 190's lbs? I used to be that naive kid so I won't make fun of anyone's opinions, but what i do hate is people on hormones who lie, come on..

yep ,,smart fella you are,,177lb 9% thats where it ends naturally friend,,i assume you are around 5'9 5'10,,pretty much it ,,you can train another 20 years ,,wont chnage a thing ..little more muscle maturity and thats about it ,,you will remain 177-182 8-10% ,,garenteed,,thats even if you use halodrol and superdrol and orals..youll just get bigger on them for a while then lose it all back to point origin ,,

the only way to make steady gains is needle in the ass and or tablets through in the liver on constistant basis,,hormones sq or im will enhanced those results into new dimentions

gh15 approved




Anyway, I know you get hundreds of these so I'm going to try and keep this short. I am 20 years old natural and at the limit 180lb probably i guess 9% but not sure i need opinion. I will post pictures and would greatly appreciate your opinion if good foundation to take my bodybuilding to the next level.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/100wa.jpg/   -Today at 180 lb After back workout pumped..
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/110lled.jpg/   -Today after back workout-relaxed
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/114zo.jpg/ -Leg Shot taken today cold
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/297553927.jpg/ -Taken after shoulder workout 2 months ago and i was 185 bc i was doing my bulk , which is why i am more bloofy prob. 11 % .

Basically i wanna know am i ready to blow up? Blow up right the way kuklo did it not phil heath like blow up doll??? You say in bible blow up when lean and anyone can become pro now in generation nothingness, what do you say ? Also sorry i couldn't embed the pics, but you still can get a good idea of what i am working with 20 years old almost 21 been training natural 4 years 5'10 start 140 now at 180 i;m at limit!!! Would greatly appreciate your thoughts - youngbb31

yes you are ready ,,this is very good physiqe ,,20 year old or 40 year old its very good physiqe,, what prevent you from biger and leaner is hormone lacking ,, you will fit more into the fitness modeling scence if you dont want to blow up the wrong way because the common thing to high level competition now day is blowing up the wrong way friend,,never the less fintessmodel make more money than bodybuild if you are good

good luck

gh15 approved
Title: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:06:01 AM
fellas,, im exploded with pms,,you got to give me atleast 30 days from time yuo send pm ,,its hard to answer it all ,,and sometime i just feel liek being here and just hav fun ,, i answer within 30 days no need to worry ,,if i forget you i wont next time

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: spude on May 19, 2011, 06:06:19 AM
so how much does sagi "the handsome" kalev make a year, for instance?
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: Krankenstein on May 19, 2011, 06:07:33 AM
fellas,, im exploded with pms,,you got to give me atleast 30 days from time yuo send pm ,,its hard to answer it all ,,and sometime i just feel liek being here and just hav fun ,, i answer within 30 days no need to worry ,,if i forget you i wont next time

gh15 approved

itsa ok,,,fag stickona.,,,we knoew you have lotsa man pipe to polishh,,,take yur timeona
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Tito24 on May 19, 2011, 06:07:34 AM
sagi has the best genes for bbing there are
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:08:35 AM
sagi the handom kalev was a logn time chipendale and before hand real high level bodybuild with mr isreal titles,,he redeuced size to go to fintes model and make better money than top 15th place o contender...

gh15 approved
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:09:59 AM
So I've decided its time to transform, but I have a problem.  I'm in college and dont know how to get ahold of the proper things needed.  i'm 24 so I think I'm old enough, also what do you recommend as a good beginners cycle?

read bible,,

propioneta and trenbolona ace,,yes for beginer ,,

gh15 approved
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:11:47 AM
You say that esiclene is still being made,could you point me in a direction to find it,my friend is competing and wants it bad but cant find it anywhere.Thanks gh15 i always read your posts,you know your shit.

sandra,,look for her ,,easy to find,,superwoman,,you can get guide from pupils

gh15 approved
Title: pm question asnwered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:14:15 AM
God of hormones - what ever happened to the favorite hormone of the 80s, Nandrolone. Back when I was competing in the late 80s and early 90s it was a god-send. We always used it and conversely test was considered dirty. Now it is test all the time and Deca will give you noting but sides.

What is your stand on this classic hormone?

we still use it ,,we just dont tlel you fella we do because we want you at the buttom of the fish pool ,,we shark = you fish = we eat you = fellas danta get rich = we get sponsored

we use it more than testosterona,,we blow up on nandrolona phnyl prop all the time,,the testosterona is the hormone we cycle ... : )

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: warchild on May 19, 2011, 06:15:39 AM
eat shit
Title: pmn question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:16:00 AM
hey i dont know who you are but you are very smart . i have a couple ideas. my name is derek anthony. hates by many but giving back to the good ones. on my radio show www.blogtalkradio.com/DASHOW  WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU AS A GUEST. LET ME KNOW SIR IF YOUR INTERESTED. TRULY

DEREK ANTHONY

not interested,,moment i go on they will know who i am even with 100 voice manipulations,,thankyou

gh15 approved
Title: pm question answerred
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:19:46 AM
Drop the shit on Dante and TP dude.

I was one of the first people in the UK to drop the shit on the STC scandal involving Vydex and their customers...in fact it's still ongoing but trading standards have taken in on now ;)

Also how would I get in touch with you securely?

the shit on danta is dropping itself ....with every lie he make ,,with every step he take,,more people discover he is balonie liar piece of shit,,the punishment of danta will be the fall of his company,,infact i will soon go with a call to all my pupils to stop buying this products,,as for massive g that keep lieing making lies that he know who gh15 is which he has no clue because it is not gimick it is one individual....massive g used to kiss balls of gh15 and adored it ...only later when gh15 became harsh on him he went into his nuts obesssion to a point he will give up lifting if he could know who gh15 is,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: makaveli25 on May 19, 2011, 06:21:39 AM
It would be cool if you started talking about other hormones again instead of just ghona. Whats a good dose of npp ? I have been interested in trying it.
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:21:46 AM
Please take a look at this video


What's your opinion about his physique, foundation right here?

you used to say he got great potential and than you went saying he's all generation nothingness... what really made you change your mind about him?

How can one get so thin skin like him in here, like Ronny Rockel, like Dorian and such?

he has great potential indeed,, good profesional just bring up chest upper chest but he is good profesional with great potential

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: Firemuscle on May 19, 2011, 06:23:35 AM
eat shit

 He would eat shit if it would make his quads and glutes a tiny bit more defined.
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: chaos on May 19, 2011, 06:23:55 AM
;D
Title: Re: pm question answerred
Post by: makaveli25 on May 19, 2011, 06:25:25 AM
Gh15 what do you think of needtogetaas from elite fitness. That dude is the biggest liar of them all. That whole board is a big scam. Only good thing they ever came up with is beastdrol and even that is wayy over priced.
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: Firemuscle on May 19, 2011, 06:25:33 AM
 gh15 dissed "Big" BFRS when I asked him to comment on my awesome physique. What a bastard.

 Still waiting....
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:25:34 AM
some fellas by mistkae discover a way to get big and lean lol they discover it because thier scam dealer send them npp instead of sustanona...or testosterona enantat...so dealer send the cheaper npp and they discover they grow better on it and get lean and large...especialy if used hgh before hand... it happen from mistakes sadly it fucks up their sex drive big time later on and if do higher dose it does it on the spot,,but they get large and lean quite fast

300-1200mg is the doses i recomend for intermidiate bodybuilder,,on 500-1000mg npp you will grow like there is no tomorrow,,you will hold some water but you will grow lean much better than testosterona but! the testosterona will have to come later on in a blitz effect 1200mg a week to fill it all up and get the lean volumized look you all seek ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:27:10 AM
its too many pms i cant answer them all now,,will come next few weeks ,,just to much to go through some want detailed explnations some want dirt and some want narcotic disussions ,, will answer all though in time

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answerred
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:29:54 AM
really dont have time to think of him,,he is small in the scam list,,the big ones are walking around stealing your money day in day out ,,just go look at the obsesion they have with gh15 on profesional muscle ,,they sit and lie to those kids tellin gh15 is gimick acount of 5 people i get pms on this already 5 days in a raw like i give a flying fuck ,,gh15 is one individual if no one can get it already then their brain is on crack

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: makaveli25 on May 19, 2011, 06:30:01 AM
Gh what do you think of this cycle

test 500-750mg
npp 300-500mg
masteron 400-600 mg

Im thinking about giving this a shot. Im hoping the masteron will keep that water off.
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:31:05 AM
Gh what do you think of this cycle

test 500-750mg
npp 300-500mg
masteron 400-600 mg

Im thinking about giving this a shot. Im hoping the masteron will keep that water off.

you go on this only if you are in the singles,,and truly singles not singles in your head and 13 % in reality,,8-9% at the max

gh15 approved
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: Meso_z on May 19, 2011, 06:31:37 AM
Yea Ive sent couple pms and theyre not answered yet. I dont even remember whats the topic lol

Youre breaking my heart God.
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 06:32:32 AM
all will be answered,,dont worry fellas i never forget my pupils nor do i forget any scambag liar in the cult

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 19, 2011, 06:33:49 AM
I dont know why Nandrolona gets such a bad rep on the internet, before the internet it was the most commonly used roid, its cheap and builds muscle well
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: JP_RC on May 19, 2011, 07:03:06 AM
3-4 different people managing this account and you don't have time to answer your "pms"? But you do have time to rant 4-5 different paragraphs when a thread its about Heath or a natural bb right?
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: JasonH on May 19, 2011, 07:08:51 AM
itsa ok,,,fag stickona.,,,we knoew you have lotsa man pipe to polishh,,,take yur timeona

lol  ;D
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 19, 2011, 08:02:48 AM
I dont know why Nandrolona gets such a bad rep on the internet, before the internet it was the most commonly used roid, its cheap and builds muscle well
And easy to get legit
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: Krankenstein on May 19, 2011, 08:10:28 AM
all will be answered,,dont worry fellas i never forget my pupils nor do i forget any scambag liar in the cult

gh15 approved

taker yur tyme,,,we know you haver a bloofy cock up your manginoa...,,,take yuor tme,,,dont rush it even if europeno schome is just a two minuiteman,,,,
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 19, 2011, 08:21:29 AM
And easy to get legit

Yeah
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: local hero on May 19, 2011, 09:35:45 AM
i think its an american bro science thing, ive always shouted loud to spread the joys of decca, it is probly one of the best drugs you can take for bodybuilding
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: Noel Fuller on May 19, 2011, 09:39:50 AM
I dont see why you guys give GH15 so much credit, hes just a washed up has been with old old info.
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: local hero on May 19, 2011, 09:40:43 AM
are you not a decca fan either then?
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 19, 2011, 09:41:35 AM
are you not a decca fan either then?

Noel has a serious case of Deca dick, he was born with it
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: Noel Fuller on May 19, 2011, 09:44:01 AM
steroids work different for different people, deca is great from what I read on the internet.
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: Disgusted on May 19, 2011, 10:27:28 AM
I dont see why you guys give GH15 so much credit, hes just a washed up has been with old old info.

At least he is giving info. Feel free to chime in with some new stuff.
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: Meso_z on May 19, 2011, 10:32:15 AM
At least he is giving info. Feel free to chime in with some new stuff.
.......or stfu.
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 19, 2011, 10:34:37 AM
.......or stfu.

Noel should just off himself
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 10:35:53 AM
he doesn't have any new stuff,, look at how he looks like ,,a trainer should always always have example on his own body,,he should have walked the walk ,,noel was a local wanna be if anything,,never the less he still haev no new anything,,he will tell you baloney about exercises and diet,,BALONEY,,it is all in the drugs regimens,,all in the TIMING OF DRUGS,,the one who best time his drugs ,,and best know how to combine them right what to bring in and what to take out at the right timing...is the one who advances and also the one who wins usually

gh15 approved
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 19, 2011, 11:25:17 AM
gh15 dissed "Big" BFRS when I asked him to comment on my awesome physique. What a bastard.

 Still waiting....
Has it been 30 days yet?
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: HTexan on May 19, 2011, 11:38:54 AM
Slacker
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: buselmo on May 19, 2011, 11:52:33 AM
all will be answered,,dont worry fellas i never forget my pupils nor do i forget any scambag liar in the cult

gh15 approved
i sent you a pm a month ago and you didn't answer  :'(
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: pellius on May 19, 2011, 12:03:03 PM
How effective is Deca for the joints and what's the minimum amount require to make a difference. Not for mutation but for stiff joints?
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: dustin on May 19, 2011, 12:16:28 PM
How effective is Deca for the joints and what's the minimum amount require to make a difference. Not for mutation but for stiff joints?

Just add a couple hundred or few hundred mgs to your HRT, bro. I know so many fellas who add nandrolone to their self prescribed or doctor/endo prescribed HRT. Good shit but remember to not expect miracles. Great shit for what it's worth.
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 19, 2011, 12:41:12 PM
i told you awhile about about my KNIGHT RIDER,,,question you never answerede it,,,now I GET PMS ASKING ABOUT HALODROL I WONT ANSWER THEM YOU NEED TO ANSWER THEM,,,,YOU DONT PAY ME ENOUGH  :-[ GOING TO SEE TROY,,,SOON
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: 2ND COMING on May 19, 2011, 12:45:46 PM
itsa ok,,,fag stickona.,,,we knoew you have lotsa man pipe to polishh,,,take yur timeona

Lul
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 19, 2011, 12:53:50 PM
i told you awhile about about my KNIGHT RIDER,,,question you never answerede it,,,now I GET PMS ASKING ABOUT HALODROL I WONT ANSWER THEM YOU NEED TO ANSWER THEM,,,,YOU DONT PAY ME ENOUGH  :-[ GOING TO SEE TROY,,,SOON

Halodrol? It ain't 2004 bud. If you mean Halodrol MT, you might as well wipe your ass with the money you would spend on it and watch it circle around your toilet bowl a few times as it quietly departs your life.

Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: mwbbuilder on May 19, 2011, 01:38:00 PM
we still use it ,,we just dont tlel you fella we do because we want you at the buttom of the fish pool ,,we shark = you fish = we eat you = fellas danta get rich = we get sponsored

we use it more than testosterona,,we blow up on nandrolona phnyl prop all the time,,the testosterona is the hormone we cycle ... : )

gh15 approved

Now if this doesn't ruin the idiot's credibility with you sheep, I don't know what will.

Pages and pages and pages of drug blabber and there you have it.

He only tell you what he wants you to know!

HE WROTE IT, SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 19, 2011, 01:41:15 PM
Now if this doesn't ruin the idiot's credibility with you sheep, I don't know what will.

Pages and pages and pages of drug blabber and there you have it.

He only tell you what he wants you to know!

HE WROTE IT, SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would any logical person get ALL of their information on such a sensitive topic from one source?

When I decided to use I spent over a year online learning and reading before I took anything. You can't read one book and know it all, the human body is far too complex. What's on paper does not always translate directly to real life.
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: pellius on May 19, 2011, 01:48:13 PM
I've used a product for almost 3 years called Alflutop. I've had great success with this for joints. It's made in Romania and is a water base injectable. It flows easily through a 27g needle. There's a loading phase where you have to do injects every day for 20 days. After that a maintenance dose of 2-3 times per week.

It's not a drug and derived from fish cartilage and I'd get through eBay. But now, after all these years of successful use with zero sides, it is no longer allowed in the country. My recent order got detained by the FDA and I was sent a letter informing me that the product is not allowed in the country and will be sent back to sender.
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: pellius on May 19, 2011, 01:49:45 PM
BTW, I can't begin to describe just how infuriated I am! Once again our every expanding, meddlesome, nanny state government intruding on the lives of private citizens. My use of this product has zero effect on the rights and freedoms of others, is not a drug, and has only had positive effects on me. But the FDA, once again presuming to know more of what is best for me than I do myself, has deem this product unacceptable.

Of course, I can use drugs like Viox and Ibruprofen, and they do work, but they come with a price. Not with Alflutop. Only good has come of it and it even helps promote the healing and reversing of some joint conditions.

But some fat government bureaucrat, with just a stamp on a form letter, has decided that he knows better than me what I should or should not put into my body. A body that presumably I own.

Now, with some desperation, I am seriously considering using a controlled substance simply because it is more available domestically than Alflutop. If anyone knows how to obtain Alflutop or Adequan (without a veterinarian script) please let me know. 

I'd be willing to make a deal with my government. I will continue to pay my taxes but forfeit any Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Welfare, Unemployment and any and all entitlement programs if they promise to just one thing -- JUST LEAVE ME ALONE! As long as I'm not bothering, hurting or infringing on the rights and freedoms of others JUST LEAVE ME ALONE! Me using Alflutop has no effect on others but only positive effects on me. Just leave me be. I'm bothering nobody. I'm only trying to improve health and quality of life. After all, it is my life. So please, please, please, JUST LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE! 
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: tbombz on May 19, 2011, 01:51:01 PM
BTW, I can't begin to describe just how infuriated I am! Once again our every expanding, meddlesome, nanny state government intruding on the lives of private citizens. My use of this product has zero effect on the rights and freedoms of others, is not a drug, and has only had positive effects on me. But the FDA, once again presuming to know more of what is best for me than I do myself, has deem this product unacceptable.

Of course, I can use drugs like Viox and Ibruprofen, and they do work, but they come with a price. Not with Alflutop. Only good has come of it and it even helps promote the healing and reversing of some joint conditions.

But some fat government bureaucrat, with just a stamp on a form letter, has decided that he knows better than me what I should or should not put into my body. A body that presumably I own.

Now, with some desperation, I am seriously considering using a controlled substance simply because it is more available domestically than Alflutop. If anyone knows how to obtain Alflutop or Adequan (without a veterinarian script) please let me know. 

I'd be willing to make a deal with my government. I will continue to pay my taxes but forfeit any Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Welfare, Unemployment and any and all entitlement programs if they promise to just one thing -- JUST LEAVE ME ALONE! As long as I'm not bothering, hurting or infringing on the rights and freedoms of others JUST LEAVE ME ALONE! Me using Alflutop has no effect on others but only positive effects on me. Just leave me be. I'm bothering nobody. I'm only trying to improve health and quality of life. After all, it is my life. So please, please, please, JUST LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE! 

do you think its republicans or democrats that dont want you to use afflutop?  ;)
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 19, 2011, 01:52:01 PM
The FDA has a responsibility to keep the American populace safe from harmful foods and drugs. Their process for determining what is safe and what is not isn't the best and is highly corrupt but it's the best we got...And FWIW I agree with you.
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: tbombz on May 19, 2011, 02:05:06 PM
BTW, I can't begin to describe just how infuriated I am! Once again our every expanding, meddlesome, nanny state government intruding on the lives of private citizens. My use of this product has zero effect on the rights and freedoms of others, is not a drug, and has only had positive effects on me. But the FDA, once again presuming to know more of what is best for me than I do myself, has deem this product unacceptable.

Of course, I can use drugs like Viox and Ibruprofen, and they do work, but they come with a price. Not with Alflutop. Only good has come of it and it even helps promote the healing and reversing of some joint conditions.

But some fat government bureaucrat, with just a stamp on a form letter, has decided that he knows better than me what I should or should not put into my body. A body that presumably I own.

Now, with some desperation, I am seriously considering using a controlled substance simply because it is more available domestically than Alflutop. If anyone knows how to obtain Alflutop or Adequan (without a veterinarian script) please let me know.  

I'd be willing to make a deal with my government. I will continue to pay my taxes but forfeit any Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Welfare, Unemployment and any and all entitlement programs if they promise to just one thing -- JUST LEAVE ME ALONE! As long as I'm not bothering, hurting or infringing on the rights and freedoms of others JUST LEAVE ME ALONE! Me using Alflutop has no effect on others but only positive effects on me. Just leave me be. I'm bothering nobody. I'm only trying to improve health and quality of life. After all, it is my life. So please, please, please, JUST LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!  

is it the democrats or the republicans that want to intrude on your life pellius?
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: tbombz on May 19, 2011, 02:43:15 PM
is it the republicans or the democrats who want the "nanny state" pellius? i want to know which congress people i should start writing letters to in order to get these dirty politicians out of our lives! we ought to be able to take whatever the fuck we want whenever the fuck we want. its our life! im with you 100%. so just tell me, do i need to write the repubs or democrats??
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 19, 2011, 02:47:31 PM
I am actually curious why we Americans can't sign away any rights to suit and be allowed to take anything we want.

Like, I will hold myself responsible and take some experimental cow extract that will enhance my digestion. Whatever, the point is why on a case by case basis can we not do this?
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: youngbb31 on May 19, 2011, 02:58:16 PM
yes you are ready ,,this is very good physiqe ,,20 year old or 40 year old its very good physiqe,, what prevent you from biger and leaner is hormone lacking ,, you will fit more into the fitness modeling scence if you dont want to blow up the wrong way because the common thing to high level competition now day is blowing up the wrong way friend,,never the less fintessmodel make more money than bodybuild if you are good

good luck

gh15 approved


Don't worry i saved your posts from bible on how to blow up right. Prop , tren , masterona, it's just a money issue for now and a decision i will have to think about. I'm young so not fukin around with gh or insulin obviously. Thank you for your input. also have to find source, think i have legit source but worried about all the bunk ass bullshit hormones these days. I don't take chances unless I'm sure.
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: theheman on May 19, 2011, 03:59:58 PM
Halodrol? It ain't 2004 bud. If you mean Halodrol MT, you might as well wipe your ass with the money you would spend on it and watch it circle around your toilet bowl a few times as it quietly departs your life.



Mike what's wrong with halodrol (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol)?  I know it's only a designer steroid and it's legal to buy but it's worked very well for me.  I just want to know the concerns you have about it. 
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: jude2 on May 19, 2011, 04:07:31 PM
i sent you a pm a month ago and you didn't answer  :'(
As good as you look, you should be able to answer your own questions ;)
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: BikiniSlut on May 19, 2011, 04:16:54 PM
Oh brother  ::)





I'm sure you are absolutely overwhelmed with PM's. And I am a billionaire.
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 19, 2011, 05:45:23 PM
Oh brother  ::)





I'm sure you are absolutely overwhelmed with PM's. And I am a billionaire.
and your a slut in a mans thong,,,,shut the
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: Steve Namat on May 19, 2011, 06:00:48 PM
fellas,, im exploded with pms,,you got to give me atleast 30 days from time yuo send pm ,,its hard to answer it all ,,and sometime i just feel liek being here and just hav fun ,, i answer within 30 days no need to worry ,,if i forget you i wont next time

gh15 approved
Hey bro, I'm still waiting after 3 months...  :o :)
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 09:34:30 PM
all will be answered,, i don't delete pms ,,only delete if it is security risk or really not appropriate,,maybe the other 12 fella that write on the account could help me ,,would be nice ::)

gh15 approved
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: pellius on May 19, 2011, 09:56:47 PM
Hey bro, I'm still waiting after 3 months...  :o :)

No more Kigs. Stick with the Red Tops (Thanktropins). 3 ius 5 times per day.
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2011, 10:01:48 PM
No more Kigs. Stick with the Red Tops (Thanktropins). 3 ius 5 times per day.

lol

that! was funny
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: NotMrAverage on May 20, 2011, 01:31:42 AM
but not gh15 approved?
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 01:47:43 AM
kigtropin ,,thanktropin ,,those are only 2 gh from china i personaly would use,,you want legit gh ...you want lowe water retention ,,you want water retentionto be there but in the right places and then to drop week 2-3...so those are your gh

gh15 approved
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 20, 2011, 02:10:47 AM
kigtropin ,,thanktropin ,,those are only 2 gh from china i personaly would use,,you want legit gh ...you want lowe water retention ,,you want water retentionto be there but in the right places and then to drop week 2-3...so those are your gh

gh15 approved
But there is no Kigs anymore?
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 02:18:47 AM
but there is thanks...

gh15 approved
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: spude on May 20, 2011, 03:06:55 AM
kigtropin ,,thanktropin ,,those are only 2 gh from china i personaly would use,,you want legit gh ...you want lowe water retention ,,you want water retentionto be there but in the right places and then to drop week 2-3...so those are your gh

gh15 approved

what about riptropin, god? based on my experience it's def legit and easy to get...have ur elfs tried it ;D
only problem is it makes you hold a tad more water but nothing extraordinary or unmanageable...approved?
Title: Re: pmn question answered
Post by: Secret Stack on May 20, 2011, 09:04:39 AM
hey i dont know who you are but you are very smart . i have a couple ideas. my name is derek anthony. hates by many but giving back to the good ones. on my radio show www.blogtalkradio.com/DASHOW  WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU AS A GUEST. LET ME KNOW SIR IF YOUR INTERESTED. TRULY

DEREK ANTHONY

oh does this deserve a thread of its own...LOL!!!
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 20, 2011, 09:51:09 AM
Gh15 in-regards to your comments on latest Kai green photo (back shot)
you mentioned implants instead of soe
so i would like to ask you if this guy is example of seo or implants?

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/218106_215359401814434_100000211288096_1008080_4281225_n.jpg)
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215217_215359825147725_100000211288096_1008084_1433596_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/38777_146796528670722_100000211288096_461716_5962242_n.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vv6jQGjbSOo/TBZMu35l0eI/AAAAAAAAJg0/Nvbh8ZysbOQ/s1600/Craig+Golias_01.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VqJnZ1dVt-E/TbAk362dcKI/AAAAAAAAIVc/tfAp2ya-v2s/s1600/CraigGolias08.jpg)

Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: Secret Stack on May 20, 2011, 09:58:24 AM
^^ note this guy in the most muscular pic with FAKE arms... what bodybuilder of today does he remind you of in that same pose relying on arms to create illusion of width rather than clavicles...?

and there STILL seem to be phil heath fans coming here from md screaming about he is just "genetically blessed" with 50" arms  ::)

how fitting he can only attract fake girls too.
must of met at the same plastic surgeon lol
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 20, 2011, 10:54:57 AM
^^ note this guy in the most muscular pic with FAKE arms... what bodybuilder of today does he remind you of in that same pose relying on arms to create illusion of width rather than clavicles...?

and there STILL seem to be phil heath fans coming here from md screaming about he is just "genetically blessed" with 50" arms  ::)

how fitting he can only attract fake girls too.
must of met at the same plastic surgeon lol

I was thinking the same thing
typical plastic couple from Vegas
big boobs, big arms, getting maximum attention, living their dream.
Title: Re: pm question asnwered
Post by: 225for70 on May 20, 2011, 11:32:29 AM
BTW, I can't begin to describe just how infuriated I am! Once again our every expanding, meddlesome, nanny state government intruding on the lives of private citizens. My use of this product has zero effect on the rights and freedoms of others, is not a drug, and has only had positive effects on me. But the FDA, once again presuming to know more of what is best for me than I do myself, has deem this product unacceptable.

Of course, I can use drugs like Viox and Ibruprofen, and they do work,

Vioxx isn't available anymore.
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 11:54:33 AM
Gh15 in-regards to your comments on latest Kai green photo (back shot)
you mentioned implants instead of soe
so i would like to ask you if this guy is example of seo or implants?

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/218106_215359401814434_100000211288096_1008080_4281225_n.jpg)
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215217_215359825147725_100000211288096_1008084_1433596_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/38777_146796528670722_100000211288096_461716_5962242_n.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vv6jQGjbSOo/TBZMu35l0eI/AAAAAAAAJg0/Nvbh8ZysbOQ/s1600/Craig+Golias_01.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VqJnZ1dVt-E/TbAk362dcKI/AAAAAAAAIVc/tfAp2ya-v2s/s1600/CraigGolias08.jpg)


no,,this is just seo applied in hgih doses and applied badly ,,he look decent because he has some muscle,,but overall it is eaily regonized and is fake ,,this is not implents,,implents are a little different they have better flow and shape,,it is costly procedue and it also look like retard just a diff type of retard,,it is exactly like the whore next to him ,,everything fake on her from head to toe ,,and she is ugly thats the sad thing,,

gh15 approved
Title: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 12:01:30 PM
will start first ever cycle by the end of this year as i will be training for about 1 and half years by that time...i'm 27y old so hoping to get the potential while i still can...
what is the cycle recommended?
initially i was thinking test e only cycle...
i will also need to lose fat on the cycle so is tren ace good,esp for the first cycle??
what else should i need?like you said every bb lies so i don't know where to get advice and i'm tired of the 'common sense' advice,gonna need those radical advice though,thanks!!

if you aim at competitive bodybuilding or anything resembling magazine looks,,you will need  the following

testosterona propioneta

trenbolona ace

those are the main keys for  competetive bodybuild,,all the liars that tlel you somethign else always go back to this stack we all use it on a regular basis now day and since the 80s it is highly important for what you see now on stage,,in addition at ages 27 most competetive are on hgh along the year on and off inorder to stimulate more volumized growth as in fibers blown up to new size by addition of aas later on or during ,,

good luck

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 12:03:22 PM
in saddition its very important to understand that all the fellas who say do not use trenbolona are the ones who use it ,,it is something to do with them not wanting you to get to their level too fast...they want to be there and want you to look at them as what you want to become... it is something to do with psychology more than the compound,, what you need is trenbolona ace with testosterona prop,, later on you grow with npp/eq and gh with higher doses testosterona and this is where i recommend testosterona enanthate or sustanona


gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: makaveli25 on May 20, 2011, 12:04:16 PM
I went back and read your bible gh15. I thought test deca and dbol were the keys to being a professional. I read that long post you had about dbol and blowing up overnight. Made me want to order some. Why do your theories change so much?
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 12:05:19 PM
God whats your opinion on Platz, his leg development and in general?

Was he using GH back then? He always seemed "years" ahead of his competition.

ofcourse he was using gh ,,later on he was and all through exprimental stage ,,which didnt change the fact he was just not proportionate and balanced,,he didnt have the symetry and good ratios especialy of upper body that top bodybuild needed,,he could be as thick as a house it woudn tmatter,, bodybuild got to have the right v taper,,the right proportions ,,the right symetry to hit the top,,he didnt,, what he did have is very good sets of legs

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 20, 2011, 12:09:24 PM
  For once, I agree with this GH15. My family owns a farm where we raise cattle, and we have used several anabolics on the cattle, from Winstrol-V and Equipoise and nandrolone phenylpropionate, and nothing works as well as trenbolone. You can see the bulls gaining meat on an almost daily basis. It is incredible. Needless to state, I have unlimited supply of tenbolone. But I don't touch that stuff. Too much of a risk of kidney damage and stroke. Really powerful and nasty stuff.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 12:10:31 PM
I went back and read your bible gh15. I thought test deca and dbol were the keys to being a professional. I read that long post you had about dbol and blowing up overnight. Made me want to order some. Why do your theories change so much?

ONLY IF LOW BODYFAT! keep reading what i write few time,,its not enough once because the english the way i put it you need to read few times ,,its good training practice for the brain ,, only if lean already then its ok ,,

what the average fella need to use inorder to bring phenominal physiqe into the table is trenbolona ace and propioneta with some gh along the way

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 12:12:28 PM
 For once, I agree with this GH15. My family owns a farm where we raise cattle, and we have used several anabolics on the cattle, from Winstrol-V and Equipoise and nandrolone phenylpropionate, and nothing works as well as trenbolone. You can see the bulls gaining meat on an almost daily basis. It is incredible. Neddless to state, I have unlimited supply of tenbolone. But I don't touch that stuff. Too much of a risk of kidney damage and stroke. Really powerful and nasty stuff.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

not only that! they gain the lean muscle while dropping fat to low levels ,,which in return make a better sell in your local walmart,,because notice how much they charge for the 4% fat lean beef...much more than they charge for the 30% ...and thats the all difference,,higher lean beef = more lean tissue = more real true muscle = what every bodybuild wants,,  

low bodyfat ...higher lean muscle ...that's all you need


gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: makaveli25 on May 20, 2011, 12:17:17 PM
 For once, I agree with this GH15. My family owns a farm where we raise cattle, and we have used several anabolics on the cattle, from Winstrol-V and Equipoise and nandrolone phenylpropionate, and nothing works as well as trenbolone. You can see the bulls gaining meat on an almost daily basis. It is incredible. Needless to state, I have unlimited supply of tenbolone. But I don't touch that stuff. Too much of a risk of kidney damage and stroke. Really powerful and nasty stuff.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Tren fucked me up bad. At 100mg eod it shot my blood pressure up to dangerous levels. I was using a lot of the test at the time I almost think that might of made the side effects a lot worse.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 20, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
not onlythat! they gain the lean muscle while dropping fat to low levels ,,which in return make a beter sell in yoru local walmart,,because notice how much they charge for the 4% fat lean beef...much more than they charge for the 30% ...and thats the all difference,,higher lean beef = more lean tissue = more real true muscle = what every bodybuild wants,,  

low bodyfat ...higher llean muscle ...thats all you need


gh15 approved

  Yeah, if you want lean muscle mass gains, then nothing works as well as trenbolone. I know this from first hand experience watching it on my family's farm. Some drugs give even more weight gain, but it's mostly water. You give two guys, one of them Anadrol and the other tenbolone, and the guy who takes the Anadrol will gain more weight and size, but the guy who takes the trenbolone will gain more lean muscle tissue. Trenbolone has 10 X the anabolic effect of testosterone but without the water retention. But I wouldn't take it since it is really nasty. Several of our cattles had kidney failure and stroke due to trenbolone, but they(not me) give it to them anyway since they don't care about the cattle's health

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 12:22:14 PM
Tren fucked me up bad. At 100mg eod it shot my blood pressure up to dangerous levels. I was using a lot of the test at the time I almost think that might of made the side effects a lot worse.

quality trenbolona up to 200 mg a day should not raise your blood pressure ,,it will stabilize very fast and shouldn't even raised up to begin with if its quality raw,, many many fellas on trenbolona are walking 120 over 80 manyyyy! and not on low doses,,if you do have problems you take some masterona and estrogen reduction create lower blood pressure but to begin with trenbolna should keep your blood pressure at good levels if quality ,,problem is most get trenbolona ace on the label ....and dianabola liquid for injection inside the vial....yes it can be yellow if done with yellow oil...fellas have no clue the shit going on ,,you need to know your cook i keep telling you ,,

100-200 mg dianabolona a day will raise your blood pressure and fast : )


gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 20, 2011, 12:24:06 PM
Tren fucked me up bad. At 100mg eod it shot my blood pressure up to dangerous levels. I was using a lot of the test at the time I almost think that might of made the side effects a lot worse.
Just wondering, it was ug tren and test?
and what dose of test did you run?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
the most favorite thing for bad dealers now day is to put propioneta or tne in everything instead of the real product,,sometime npp but most times propioneta or tne....that will raise blood pressure and you can pass it as anything if done right,,that's the problem with ug i keep telling you you need to know your cook ,,YOUR COOK and there are only few in the cult that are gh15 approved need to be real good ,,the good cooks are payed well and are bodybuilders themselves

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: makaveli25 on May 20, 2011, 12:34:56 PM
It was shitty stuff from china. I think it was nian labs. I felt like fucken shit. Im scared to use tren again.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 01:54:23 PM
I very strongly disagree with test/tren for a beginner. It is not only overkill but the heavy androgens wreak havoc on your emotional state. NO ONE should mess with tren unless they have some experience under their belt.

First stack should be small low dose and very simple. Remember, virgin receptors here, and you can NEVER go backwards with steroids- so take the lowest doses you can at first and build from there.

Beginners don't like needles means no short esters.

Test cyp or en dose 400-500 mgs EW
Deca (or possbly eq) 300mgs EW
Dbol as a front and rear load- 20-30mgs ED for the first 3-4 weeks, then same dose for the last 2-3 weeks of cycle.

No need to run longer than 10-12 weeks, growth will be explosive.

After used to pinning and what not, can experiment with higher doses and various compounds.

Anything posted by me is meant for entertainment purposes only and is not to be taken seriously.



absolitly not!,,

the best stack for every begginer is trenbolona ace and propioneta and this is the ONLY way to competitor physiqe the fastest and most efficient way and every one will tel you that that is highly exprienced with hormones,,you do need to be mentaly sane...for doign it ,,and you do need some foundation so you can build the lean muscle and cut the fat by only the usage of hormones and no ned for cardio

what testosterona deca and dianabolona create is just another gym rat that shall for ever stay bloofy until 5 years down the road he discover trenbolona ace and then come to getbig to rip you a new ass for what you recomended him to begin with ,,

this is bro seicne from steroid boards,,

should absolitly be avoided,,

dianabolona testosterona and nandrolona should only be used if already lean enough as in 6-7 % after the usage of trenbolona and testosterona...and gh ...when you down into the 6% and handling on your fram 200lb then! nandrolona and testosterona and higher doses gh and trenbolona at higher doses should come into play ,,not before!


i would actualy consider trenbolona ace and propioneta as the bread and butter of the moden bodybuild 1980-2011

this is very important to understand that with hormones there ie never too early ,,anyone who get into hormones never stop ,,it never stop no matter what they say ,,it is alwayas on ,,and the ones who stop moment they shrink to nothing go 2 options...

option 1 = cover body with tatoos and forget about bodybuild and start going into jesus ,,this is the fuckedup option thet usualy quit it fast

option 2 = they say they take off but never truly do and just cycle hormones till old age or in some cases till the day they die due to other drugs that is not related to hormones...

this ! is the truth friends

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: youngbb31 on May 20, 2011, 02:16:22 PM
quality trenbolona up to 200 mg a day should not raise your blood pressure ,,it will stabilize very fast and shouldn't even raised up to begin with if its quality raw,, many many fellas on trenbolona are walking 120 over 80 manyyyy! and not on low doses,,if you do have problems you take some masterona and estrogen reduction create lower blood pressure but to begin with trenbolna should keep your blood pressure at good levels if quality ,,problem is most get trenbolona ace on the label ....and dianabola liquid for injection inside the vial....yes it can be yellow if done with yellow oil...fellas have no clue the shit going on ,,you need to know your cook i keep telling you ,,

100-200 mg dianabolona a day will raise your blood pressure and fast : )


gh15 approved

what do you know of GP pharm. brand as far as their products especially tren. but also their masterona and test. prop. ? are they good quality ug lab or are they to be steered clear of?
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: asbrus on May 20, 2011, 02:56:08 PM
L0L THE W0MAN IS 20 PERCENT HUMAND 80 PERCENT PLASTIC. THE GUY L00KS EMBARASSING.
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 20, 2011, 03:02:34 PM
I swear this thread looks different...Ninja mod editing, from what I can see, especially on the first page...Also lots of posts from GH15 were added in..
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 03:39:48 PM
Yeah, beginners on tren, that will work out for the best...

What's going to give first? The guy won't like sticking needles in his body every other day, or that he feels instant rage at the slightest provocation? Can't sleep and sweats 24/7?

We are each free to our opinion, but hardly a vet on these forums will disagree with me.

But what do I know...





bodybuild that cant inject into ass every few days is not bodybuild,,trenbolona ace can be taken every 3rd day if high enough dose 150-180mg of legit trenbolona,,many inject underdose crap with low quality powder,,the craziness with trenbolona only happen at very high dose and only happen after long time and also only to fellas who really out of control even before hand...you can control this side and quite easily ,,if not then you shout some ,,but you can control all violance with no problem

the sweat is only when you are too fat ,,if you are too fat  trenbolona is not  what you need,, the sleepiness is a problem only if you don't do nothing during the  day aka jobless ,,if you train hard and take gh you sleep like baby ,,even with out gh when you tired enough you will sleep your 6-7 hours and be refreshed after ,,

trenbolona is the only drug that make you look like all of what those kidos want to look ,,,cena from wwf,,natural faildo lol ,,anyone who ever walked around and actualy saw growth while losing bodyfat same time used trenbolona,,and know the huge huge reputation it has is for a reason ,,

legit trenbolona is the trick ,, its all in the legitimacy of your hormone,,, legit trenbolona has no competitors among hormones


gh15 approved
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 03:50:14 PM
How do guys go about finding a source? Serious question, no bullshit. I'm not one of the 12 yr olds that lurk on the gossip board. If this question has been answered before, some of us missed it. You're the main reason a lot of us come back day after day, not the shit lies told by Chick and the other assholes. Thanks in advance.

it depends ,,

if you have no sponsor then you are your own man ,, sponsors usualy mean they will take care of whatever you need in order to get where you need.....money wise,,

if you are your own man and working towards becoming an advanced bodybuilder,,then its all trial and error,,you usually do alot of mistakes until you get to the one cook who has it all down ,,this one cook will never talk of himsef with high language ,,he wont be sitting here calling himself god of hormones,,he will be working behind the scenes and does exactly what he does best and it is great gear,,with great gear come great reputation and the word spread fast,,any cook can go bad but while they last if you found him then you are on your way to a top bodybuild level,,

don't ever go for cheap deals,,don't ever believe in cheap deals,,if someone ask for 30$ for nandrolona ...it is usually underdosed it is made from second grade powders and in some cases something completely diff than what on label,,you get what you pay for and even then take everything with grain of salt,,


good cooks are very few,,honest cooks are not easy to come by ,,many competitors are their own cooks,,fellas like the danta group ...they all have few contacts that cook for them that are bodybuilders themselves,,


there are few cooks who cook for the cult that i approve of ,,i can nto name names because they are high security level and protected dearly ,,the ones i put a word to protect are the ones who wil stay protected for as logn as they are cooks,,

be smart ,,and you will find your way,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Nirvana on May 20, 2011, 03:58:20 PM
gnc
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: EZ$ on May 20, 2011, 04:01:32 PM
lol fukin junkies
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no parole on May 20, 2011, 04:11:03 PM
 For once, I agree with this GH15. My family owns a farm where we raise cattle, and we have used several anabolics on the cattle, from Winstrol-V and Equipoise and nandrolone phenylpropionate, and nothing works as well as trenbolone. You can see the bulls gaining meat on an almost daily basis. It is incredible. Needless to state, I have unlimited supply of tenbolone. But I don't touch that stuff. Too much of a risk of kidney damage and stroke. Really powerful and nasty stuff.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You don't have a farm, and you didn't experiment with anabolics in this manner.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: tlc on May 20, 2011, 04:24:09 PM
Well shit, just finished acquiring 12 weeks worth of test e and 4 weeks worth of dbol like Methyl Mike and about ten thousand others recommend as a good first cycle, and god himself is now telling me otherwise. Also got a couple bottles of masteron.

Plan was:
1-4 500mg test e (250mg x 2) + 30-40mg dbol/day
5-12 500mg test e
masteron 100mg EOD throughout (I'm about 10% bf now but naturally prone to blubber, worried about gyno)
usual nolva etc. for PCT assuming I dont just stay on something

40yo, goal is another 10-15lb or so of muscle. Training and diet are spot on, making progress just want to make it faster. Am I wasting my time with the above stack  ???  
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 20, 2011, 05:12:02 PM
no you are not!,,it is very good cycle,,you are 10% its not high ,,it where you start to get lean ,,its good ,, better cycle would be propioneta and trenbolona ace,,btu your cycle can be very well done especially with masterona

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 20, 2011, 05:58:47 PM
You don't have a farm, and you didn't experiment with anabolics in this manner.

  Wow, jackass with 4 posts who just registered talking shit to guy with 8K+ posts and who is a member for close to 7 years. I just have one thing to say to you: STFU. Bitch.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: lesaucer on May 20, 2011, 06:06:47 PM
that girl seem to wanna keep her distance off him lol
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 20, 2011, 06:29:47 PM
So these " sponsors " only provide money ?? Money for the gear ? I have heard that some " sponsors " provide both money, their supplements ( protein powders, etc. ), and cooks. Hmmm ... makes me very curious. I've also read ( maybe I do too much readin' ! Lol ! ) that some sponsors send their athletes gear concealed IN the protein powder containers. Hell, I don't fuckin' know ! Curious as hell though ! :D
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: spude on May 20, 2011, 09:39:57 PM
the most favorite thing for bad dealers now day is to put propioneta or tne in everything instead of the real product,,sometime npp but most times propioneta or tne....that will raise blood pressure and you can pass it as anything if done right,,that's the problem with ug i keep telling you you need to know your cook ,,YOUR COOK and there are only few in the cult that are gh15 approved need to be real good ,,the good cooks are payed well and are bodybuilders themselves

gh15 approved

george f ???
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 20, 2011, 10:37:04 PM
what do you know of GP pharm. brand as far as their products especially tren. but also their masterona and test. prop. ? are they good quality ug lab or are they to be steered clear of?
UG =/ legit
and legit comes first.
also as far as ug, GP sucks.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on May 21, 2011, 04:33:23 AM
 For once, I agree with this GH15. My family owns a farm where we raise cattle, and we have used several anabolics on the cattle, from Winstrol-V and Equipoise and nandrolone phenylpropionate, and nothing works as well as trenbolone. You can see the bulls gaining meat on an almost daily basis. It is incredible. Needless to state, I have unlimited supply of tenbolone. But I don't touch that stuff. Too much of a risk of kidney damage and stroke. Really powerful and nasty stuff.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You don't own a farm. You don't raise cattle. You don't have an unlimited supply of tren. You just make things up about your life because you are a very disturbed person. Nobody believes any of the claims you make about your life and deep down you know this. Still you persist because you have no choice. You would have to come to terms with your vapid, barren and empty existence. Before you were looked at as a harmless joke and a source of mild bemusement. Now you come across as a deeply troubled soul growing more and more sad and pathetic with each post and each unproven outlandish claim.   

Shut up, stupid.

Title: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 21, 2011, 01:23:58 PM
Bro...love your posts! You should SERIOUSLY consider posting at MD sometimes. I post a lot of your advice there...they love it


MIke

why? the all boardings come here to read me ,,i dont have time to post many places,,whne you are god they come to you,,like saint john paul second say ...i came for them and now they come for me,,

gh15 approved
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 21, 2011, 01:37:48 PM
Maybe yhou can shed some light on what happend to cfc and everyone's money.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=372713.0

nordic dropped cfc as employee few year back ,,he had his reason ,, nwo reason come to light,,coudnt count on him,,like many before this is another fella that went above his head and ability to supply ,,

note to cult,,when you see cash in mail only way to make payent ,,YOU ALWAYS AVOID! never send cash in mail ,,not because you are not safe because as someone who by personal 2 vial you are always safe...but because you have no ability to show anyone in the cult you bought a thing,,every source who use cash in mail at the end of the day go down in some form or another,,

cash in mail is a big no in the cult of bodybuild,,


gh15 approved
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 21, 2011, 01:42:14 PM
I´m not a beginner but have been on layoff period because of narco.problems (very big in bb as you said)...been away for 3 years...kicked the oxys 1 year ago... Want my old mass back as fast as I can. Have gained back 15 kg on test only, but to much is bloofy craperino. I did 600 mg/week.... Is 50mg prop, 50 mg tren ace enough or should i bump it it up to 100/100? And also...I got a source of gear were I know his stuff are real...1 ml amps...but he only have tren e....can get tren ace from another source but quality is unknown...

50mg testosterona propioneta or 75mg testosterona phnyl propioneta every 2 day,,
150-200mg trenbolona ace every 2-3 day

few months of this then add in eq or npp and higher testosterona with masterona as anti estreogen at 50-100mg a every 2 day

gh should be there whenever you want to grow lean ,,first get lean ...then grow lean both need gh but gh best way to do is not year round but in  blitz cycles of 2-4months then off to grow what gh created

gh15 approved
Title: pm question answerred
Post by: gh15 on May 21, 2011, 01:44:21 PM
Hello god. I have been following the bible with great results.  I was wondering if you could confirm pep/oxide/superman as legitimate cook??

Feedback appreciated

legitiimate? if he take you ...you are one lucky fella,, he changes workers but its always top of the top wiht regard to quality and services

gh15 approved
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: mrgut on May 21, 2011, 03:04:32 PM
The answers to life's greatest question... TRENBOLONE ACE! TREN=TRUTH!
Title: pm question answerd
Post by: gh15 on May 22, 2011, 11:19:23 AM
Hi God,

please may you tell me if strango it's a legitimate cook?

Thanks!

of course,, one of the best

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answerd
Post by: kevinf on May 22, 2011, 11:25:36 AM
i ran strango tren ace, best tren ace ever tried by far
Title: Re: pm question answerd
Post by: martellrui on May 22, 2011, 02:08:34 PM
thank you very much!
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: luvvsuNOT on May 24, 2011, 06:08:02 PM
nordic dropped cfc as employee few year back ,,he had his reason ,, nwo reason come to light,,coudnt count on him,,like many before this is another fella that went above his head and ability to supply ,,

note to cult,,when you see cash in mail only way to make payent ,,YOU ALWAYS AVOID! never send cash in mail ,,not because you are not safe because as someone who by personal 2 vial you are always safe...but because you have no ability to show anyone in the cult you bought a thing,,every source who use cash in mail at the end of the day go down in some form or another,,

cash in mail is a big no in the cult of bodybuild,,


gh15 approved

HOw did you know he used cash in the mail? I used him earlier this year and was surprised that he did this. Said it was for safety as nothing can be traced. Also, he was so hype on the AnabolicBoard and even you said his gear was good. Even one of your elfs mighty1 said his stuff was pure and potent. NOw some claim that all his gear was cut wtih test propianita. Is this true? Did you put out good stuff or was he just another low life thief?
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 24, 2011, 06:32:51 PM
HOw did you know he used cash in the mail? I used him earlier this year and was surprised that he did this. Said it was for safety as nothing can be traced. Also, he was so hype on the AnabolicBoard and even you said his gear was good. Even one of your elfs mighty1 said his stuff was pure and potent. NOw some claim that all his gear was cut wtih test propianita. Is this true? Did you put out good stuff or was he just another low life thief?

the least safe method is cash in mail ,,big no no ,,i knew because my elfs told me,,he ws good,, to the people he wanted to be good to ,,thats the problem ,,selective scammer that was legit for long time,,

again ,,no one know what happen to him ,,if he busted like i hear in pms then he may saved many,,you need to let time tell ,,

gh15 approved
Title: gh15, where would you put yourself in the chronicles of bodybuilding?
Post by: Swlabr on May 25, 2011, 11:06:39 AM
Are you in the top 15 best bodybuilders ever?
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: mazrim on May 25, 2011, 01:35:50 PM
If I have tren ace (plan on running 150 a day-last stuff I got was underdosed though so made my own now-may go as high as 200 a day as I handle it well), prop (75 eod), and eq (about 800 a week) that I have been running and I have masteron on the way, is it worth continuing to run the eq if going for leanness when I add in the masteron or should I drop the eq and simply run the other three and save it?
Title: Re: gh15, where would you put yourself in the chronicles of bodybuilding?
Post by: Master Blaster on May 25, 2011, 03:19:32 PM
(http://quizilla.teennick.com/user_images/M/MO/MOO/MOONLGHTHELENA/1219972086_3308_full.jpeg)

"Patients suffering delusional episodes often focus their paranoia on an external tormentor. Usually one conforming to Jungian archetypes. In this case, a scarecrow."
Title: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 25, 2011, 08:33:38 PM
[quote author=L
God,

'Mike Arnold' in his own words on MD ::)

care to respond?

Please leave my name out. thanks!


"I've been trying to figure out who Gh15 is, but it's difficult because it's not just one person...at least 3 people are attached to the account. One of them may very well be a pro, but regardless, GH15 has a very blatant agenda....and in my opinion, he is (or one of the 3 is) a drug dealer. In a nutshell, here is GH15 in his own words:


* He moderates over at "Get Big" and has Admin powers.
* He is a current pro. He is the truth and the way. He is the "God of Hormones"....all other are liars and will mislead you.
* He claims anyone can turn pro, but they have to use the right drugs in the right way.
* He claims that all pros use the same exact drugs in the same exact manner.
* He claims that only he knows what the pros do and how others can get there to....but you must listen to him and do exactly as he tells you regarding drug use, or you will not succeed.
* He claims that almost all drug sources are complete garbage and almost no one knows where to get good quality drugs, which are 100% essential for success.


Since GH15 is the ONLY one who knows what needs to be done to go pro, knows what every pro uses, claims that all pros use the exact same drugs in the same fashion at all times, and that almost every drug source is garbage, it would stand to reason that GH15 would be very consistent in his drug recommendations. The problem is, GH15's drug recommendations change with the wind. He has done a complete 180 several times concerning what "all" pros do and what "needs" to be done in order to go pro.

It doesn't matter if his recommendations have changed a half a dozen times, you better believe the only thing that matters is what he says now! It doesn't matter if one year "ALL" pros use only Test, Tren, Mast, and EQ....and the next year it is Test, Deca, and D-bol....he is always right and everyone else is wrong. You see, GH15's recommendations are based on what he is selling (ooops) ...and the various reasons and excuses he has guive as to why his recommendations have changed over the years are hilarious and so far fetched one can only laugh. As a side note, just recently he was telling everyone you could NOT go pro unless you used grams of EQ all year round, but now it is no longer essential because "There is no longer any high quality EQ in circulation", according to him....or should we say he is no longer selling EQ...or because it is no longer as profitable for him. Anyone with any connection to AAS use in this sport immediately realizes how incredibly stupid it is for him to say he doesn't recommend EQ because there is no good EQ left....when it reality it is one of the most common and easy to obtain AAS in the world!

GH15 speaks ONLY in all or nothing fashion....everything is black or white....he exagerates excessivley, and he lies.


GH15's contradictions are immense. He preys on and targes the young, naive, the uneducated...those whose dream it is to go pro and will do anythng to get there. He then "guides" these ignorant and passionate men in instructing them as to exactly what they "need" to take and how to take it if they want to make it as pros....and regardless of what drugs he is recommending at the time, it is ALWAYS massive dosages of several drugs at once....even for beginners. I am not kidding. GH15's recommendation to beginners is that they take "grams" of various different steroids all year round for years straight. Needless to say, this is horrible advice to young men wanting to maximize their BB'ing potential and longevity in the sport. He does not take health into consideration and quite frankly, his recommendations are likely to lead to significant health problems in a relatively short period of time.

It does not matter if you present undeniable evidence showing he is wrong about something....he will immediately discount you and call you a liar. He has threatened to "end the careers" of some who have challenged him in public, including msyelf. Whenever he is cornered with irrefutable evidence which contradicts his claims...he proclaims his infalibility and says that you are a destroyer of the truth and a stain on the industry. More so, he has admin powers over on his board, "Get Big", and if anyone begins to make him look bad in any way, will use them to erase and alter posts whenever necessary...whatever it takes to maintain his cred. He refuses to debate with anyone on any baord, unless they do it over on "his" site.

He attacks many in the industry...even you (many times, in fact) spreading lies and flashood about various people...and it all centers on his primary agenda, which is to sell as many drugs as he can. Why does he attack you, Layne? It's simple...he attacks "all" natural BB'rs (especially you). He repeatedly claims NO ONE can get as big as you or any of the larger natural pros without drugs. He makes these claims because to admit otherwise would be to admit someone can get decently big without drugs...and that realization would challenge his proposition that NO ONE can gain any meaningful amounts muscle without drugs. In the end, that might cause him to lose customers who would otherwise be lead to believe drugs are 100% necessary to get bigger than a fitness model....so he continually spreads the lie that all decent sized natural BB'rs use drugs.

Because your the biggest name in natural BB'ing, due to your various accomplishments...he especially wants to attack you and make you out to be a liar. If he can do that...he leaves his followers with no hope of achieving their dreams without drugs.


Remember, if GH15 can get his followers to believe that no one can gain any respectable amount of muscle without drugs....that all pros use the exact same drugs in the exact same dosages and in the exact same manner.....that only he knows what that is....and that if you don't do exactkly what he says, you stand no chance of ever achieving your dreams....what choice does that leave someone who has been sucked into this bullshit? Of course.....the next step is that these "followers" naturally pm GH15 and ask for "help" on where to go to get what they need. Mission accomplished."





[/quote

sure,, his days are numbered in bodybuildin,, i shal respond in the ppost next to everything this narcotic addict scambag wrote and made up,, give me a few so i can copy this thign and can write in between the garbage of his ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Disgusted on May 25, 2011, 08:38:10 PM
Who's Mike Arnold?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 25, 2011, 08:40:09 PM
Who's Mike Arnold?

just another MD schmoe thats likes to think he is someone important
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 25, 2011, 09:03:19 PM
"I've been trying to figure out who Gh15 is, but it's difficult because it's not just one person...at least 3 people are attached to the account. One of them may very well be a pro, but regardless, GH15 has a very blatant agenda....and in my opinion, he is (or one of the 3 is) a drug dealer. In a nutshell, here is GH15 in his own words:

no 3 people no 5 people no 10 people ,,1 single individual ,,ifbb pro ,top tier and great champion of bodybuild,,


* He moderates over at "Get Big" and has Admin powers. ,, gh15 has no moderating powers on getbig.com ask ron and bobbie can tell you that too,,

* He is a current pro. He is the truth and the way. He is the "God of Hormones"....all other are liars and will mislead you. ,,that is correct ,,the only god of hormones original right here talking to you and fixing your balonie why i bother? because ill put you as example for my power,,  not all liars ,,many are not all! read the bible carefuly next time dont make up balonie

* He claims anyone can turn pro, but they have to use the right drugs in the right way. correct! 100% correct,,90% of individuals can turn pro if given right legit products including dose and know how to take them  and how to stay consistant with bodybuild

* He claims that all pros use the same exact drugs in the same exact manner. ,,lie,,we use same products not always exact same manner and not always same doses it depend on our sizes and heights,,you lie once again you filth narc

* He claims that only he knows what the pros do and how others can get there to....but you must listen to him and do exactly as he tells you regarding drug use, or you will not succeed. wrong again ,,never askd to listen to me UNLES  you want to be sucesful in top bodybuild,,again you twist the truth

* He claims that almost all drug sources are complete garbage and almost no one knows where to get good quality drugs, which are 100% essential for success. no i always call my elfs the best sources ,, my elfs are group that is approved by gh15,, many sources are garbage and they create no ones such as your sorry ass with bunk products like ip.... but there is quite a good group elf approved and gh15 approve them ,,my elfs are highly knowledgable bodybuilders spread among steroid boards and highly respected member with very high iq ,,i chose them specificaly for their experience and they never dissapont me ,,you yourself wanted to be an elf and was DENIED!  


Since GH15 is the ONLY one who knows what needs to be done to go pro, knows what every pro uses, claims that all pros use the exact same drugs in the same fashion at all times, and that almost every drug source is garbage, it would stand to reason that GH15 would be very consistent in his drug recommendations. The problem is, GH15's drug recommendations change with the wind. He has done a complete 180 several times concerning what "all" pros do and what "needs" to be done in order to go pro. NO,,I STILL CLAIM EQUIPONA IS GREAT DRUG BUT EQUIPONA IS BUNK IN MANY TIMES DUE TO POOR QUALITY OF RAW ,,IT IS NOT PASTY IN MANY TIMES AND IT GET IN POWDER AND THAT IS NOT LEGIT EQ,, EVEN IF IT GET TO YOU LIQUID IT IS IN MANY TIMES LOW QUALITY ,,VET IS VERY GOOD BUT MY PUPILS ARE DESERVE PRIME KNOWLEDGE TO WHATS THE BEST TO USE THAT IS AVAILABLE AND LEGITIMATE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY SO THEY DONT END UP LIKE YOU A NARCOTIC ADD ..WHAT IS THE RIGHT DRUG AT THE RIGHT TIMING OF PREP,,IT IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS AND THAT IS WHY I KEEP CHANGIN PRODUCTS BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS ITS PLACE  BUT IT COMES IN DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE PREP,,

It doesn't matter if his recommendations have changed a half a dozen times, you better believe the only thing that matters is what he says now! It doesn't matter if one year "ALL" pros use only Test, Tren, Mast, and EQ....and the next year it is Test, Deca, and D-bol....he is always right and everyone else is wrong. You see, GH15's recommendations are based on what he is selling (ooops) ...and the various reasons and excuses he has guive as to why his recommendations have changed over the years are hilarious and so far fetched one can only laugh. As a side note, just recently he was telling everyone you could NOT go pro unless you used grams of EQ all year round, but now it is no longer essential because "There is no longer any high quality EQ in circulation", according to him....or should we say he is no longer selling EQ...or because it is no longer as profitable for him. Anyone with any connection to AAS use in this sport immediately realizes how incredibly stupid it is for him to say he doesn't recommend EQ because there is no good EQ left....when it reality it is one of the most common and easy to obtain AAS in the world!  NO ,,EQ IS NOT SO EASY TO GET WHEN IT COME TO LEGIT ONE,,YOU ARE A NARCOTIC ADDICT! YOU HAVE NO CLUE TO WHAT PURE EQ IS AND HOW LOW THE QUALITY IS NOW DAY FOR THE USE OF IT NEEED TO BE IN VERY HIGH MG NOW DAY TO SEE THE 600MG RESULTS YOU SAW BACK 15 YEARS AGO ...  EQ IS IN MAJORITY LOW GRADE NOW DAY ,,IF YOU HAVE GOOD COOK WITH GOOD CONECTION YOU CAN STILL GET IT IN HGIH QUALITY BUT MOST DO NOT,,GH15 RECOMENDATION NEVER CHANGED,,THE PRODUCTS CHANGE DEPENDENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS,,COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD AT HIGHER BODYFAT LEVELS NEED TRENBOLONA AND TESTOSTERONA WITH GH INORDER GO GET SOMEWHERE ,,IF THEY ARE OLDER THEY WILL NEED IT EVEN MORE,,TESTOSTERONA NANDROLONA AND DIANABOLA ARE MORE USED BY YOUNGER FELLAS WITH ALREADY LOW BODYFAT AND FAST METABOLIZM ,,,AGES 20-28 IS THE AGES,, TODAY MOST FELLAS THAT ARE COMPETETIVE GO THE NEEDLE ROUTE AND STUCK WITH TRENBOLONA TESTOSTERONA GH AND MASTERONA AS A CULPRIT  WITH NPP IN AND OUT AND OFCOURSE THE GH USAGE IS FEW MONTHS ON FEW MONTHS OFF,,YOU NED TO READ THE BIBLE AND NOT JUST TWIST REALITY ,,YOU NEED TO REALY READ IT AND NOT MAKE UP THINGS ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE GH15 TAKE SPACE IN YOUR HEAD ,,IF YOU QUPTE SOMETHING QUOTE IT RIGHT,, MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT LIE TO THE FELLAS YOU WRITE TO BECAUSE EVEN IN THE MUSCULAR DEVELOP BOARDING GH15 IS WORSHIPPED AND IS READ RELEGIOUSLY,,SO THATS THAT

GH15 speaks ONLY in all or nothing fashion....everything is black or white....he exagerates excessivley, and he lies. NEVER LIED NOT EVEN ONCE! ,,I TALK IN BLACK AND WHITE BECAUSE THIS IS BODYBUILD ,,IF YOU HAD A CLUE AND DINDT LIE ABOUT IT YOU TOO WOULD SAY IT ,,BODYBUILD IS A GAME OF DRUGS ,,IT IS CONSISTANCY IN TAKING THOSE DRUGS ,,AND! WITH OUT TRENBOLONA AND GH YOUR CHANCES AT BECOMING TOP ARE VERY VERY LOW,,WITH OUT NPP TRENBOLONA TESTOSTERONAAND GH YOUR CHANCE AT GETTING ANYWHERE NOT ONLY PRO CARD ARE ZERO ,,and im not talking about all the stimulants and narcotics involved you flith of earth


GH15's contradictions are immense. He preys on and targes the young, naive, the uneducated...those whose dream it is to go pro and will do anythng to get there. He then "guides" these ignorant and passionate men in instructing them as to exactly what they "need" to take and how to take it if they want to make it as pros....and regardless of what drugs he is recommending at the time, it is ALWAYS massive dosages of several drugs at once....even for beginners. I am not kidding. GH15's recommendation to beginners is that they take "grams" of various different steroids all year round for years straight. Needless to say, this is horrible advice to young men wanting to maximize their BB'ing potential and longevity in the sport. He does not take health into consideration and quite frankly, his recommendations are likely to lead to significant health problems in a relatively short period of time. ,,not alwys massive doses,,not always ,,it depends,,you do neeed massive testosterona doses to gain the size you need to inorder to play with us big boys,,you also need massive gh doses inorder to be able to work all that testosterona ,,and most importantly you need to come lean enough so the blow up can happen right! with npp gh and testosterona while masterona is yoru anti estrogen ,,always been this way always will be with the top

It does not matter if you present undeniable evidence showing he is wrong about something....he will immediately discount you and call you a liar. He has threatened to "end the careers" of some who have challenged him in public, including msyelf. Whenever he is cornered with irrefutable evidence which contradicts his claims...he proclaims his infalibility and says that you are a destroyer of the truth and a stain on the industry. More so, he has admin powers over on his board, "Get Big", and if anyone begins to make him look bad in any way, will use them to erase and alter posts whenever necessary...whatever it takes to maintain his cred. He refuses to debate with anyone on any baord, unless they do it over on "his" site.,,its not my site i have no power of administrator or moderator ,,i never want one,,im god of hormones for you and thats how you will know me ,, im never wrong period

He attacks many in the industry...even you (many times, in fact) spreading lies and flashood about various people...and it all centers on his primary agenda, which is to sell as many drugs as he can. Why does he attack you, Layne? It's simple...he attacks "all" natural BB'rs (especially you). He repeatedly claims NO ONE can get as big as you or any of the larger natural pros without drugs. He makes these claims because to admit otherwise would be to admit someone can get decently big without drugs...and that realization would challenge his proposition that NO ONE can gain any meaningful amounts muscle without drugs. In the end, that might cause him to lose customers who would otherwise be lead to believe drugs are 100% necessary to get bigger than a fitness model....so he continually spreads the lie that all decent sized natural BB'rs use drugs. ,,i attackeed many including so call naturals because they lie,,they lie to make the rent! this is not nice and they ruin kids life ,,my pupils are generation they did not ruin or in other word didnt completely ruin because i rehabilitated them and made them true bodybuild,,the end

Because your the biggest name in natural BB'ing, due to your various accomplishments...he especially wants to attack you and make you out to be a liar. If he can do that...he leaves his followers with no hope of achieving their dreams without drugs. huh? bigest name in bodybuild? i assume he talk about some natural probably skippi ,,they all hormonized   and make money on peptides selling and on advice they write as fake naturals so goolibles on internet ,,usless to even repond


Remember, if GH15 can get his followers to believe that no one can gain any respectable amount of muscle without drugs....that all pros use the exact same drugs in the exact same dosages and in the exact same manner.....that only he knows what that is....and that if you don't do exactkly what he says, you stand no chance of ever achieving your dreams....what choice does that leave someone who has been sucked into this bullshit? Of course.....the next step is that these "followers" naturally pm GH15 and ask for "help" on where to go to get what they need. Mission accomplished."

gh15 got his pupils to adore him for a simple reason ,,he told them the truth ,,trust me when gh15 die all of my pupils will remember me ,,all of them ,,all next generations will know who was telling the truth ,,when mike arneld is gone of bodybuild like i promise,,there will be a little article saying it and mayb epalius will say gh15 strike again! but thats going to last about 2 day with generation nothingess,,maybe 2 hours...

dismissed,,

gh15 approved





Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dustin on May 25, 2011, 11:08:05 PM
Fuck the haters.

Team gh15 for life!
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: bionic on May 26, 2011, 05:49:54 AM
Because your the biggest name in natural BB'ing, due to your various accomplishments...he especially wants to attack you and make you out to be a liar. If he can do that...he leaves his followers with no hope of achieving their dreams without drugs. huh? bigest name in bodybuild? i assume he talk about some natural probably skippi ,,they all hormonized   and make money on peptides selling and on advice they write as fake naturals so goolibles on internet ,,usless to even repond

gh15 approved

^^^Mike Arnold talk about Liar Nortom there
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 26, 2011, 08:14:57 PM
First off, thanks for all your posts and insight on this board.

I'm quite positive you get a ton of pm's, I'd greatly appreciate a reply, it would help me out. I've been lurking and reading for quite a while.

I'm 24, at 6'1 197 10-12%, need to put on some size and I'm done playing with phs (hdrol ran it twice). This crap ain't taking me anywhere and I need to fill out.

All i know is what some ifbb figure and bikini chicks (gf) take, which doesn't help me out. I'm fking frustrated trying to maintain a physique without losing size pussyfooting around phs and natty bs supps. All you've mentioned about the tapuerwers, not being able to live out as much as i could, and buying worthless bs supps, I've done it. I was too naive and I've believed in a lot of bs from this industry, up until I woke up about 6 months ago. 

I'd appreciate your insight, to take my time building quality and maintaining the streamlined physique, could you suggest me an initial cycle? Not rushing into "balonieing." If it tells you anything what I look up to, Zane, Bannout, Haney and Dexter Jackson are dream physiques.

A goal physique down the road (years from now) would be 1999 Dexter's physique. I'd love to step on stage.

Again appreciate your input,

Thanks

trenbolona ace

npp


hgh

testosterona

masterona

this is exactly what you need to do for what you want,, i leave diet up to you ,,i leave training up to you,,this is the drug regimen you need to follow,,

you start with trenbolona ace 150mg every 2 day and testosterona propioneta 50mg every 2 day,,gh 5 iu a day  you go like this 8 week ,,

after 8-12 week you should be 6-7% ,,

this is when you add npp and increase doses of testosterona to the grams inaddition to adding gh and take it up to around 7.5-10 iu for the look your desire


the testosterona should be at 1 gram a week preferably 1200mg a week of either sustanona or enantato what matter is that it is legit testosterona and not bunk!   if it is legit you will know it because you will thicken up very very  fast when low bodyfat and lean ,,you will grow by the week very fast,,trenbolona shoudl still be taken 150mg  every 2 day ,,npp should be at 100mg every 2 day ,,masterona should be at 75-150 mg every 2 day depending on your sensetivity to oestrogen

that is it ,,you go this way another 2 months,,

after about 6 months you are ready to enter competition of npc at state levels ,,about 6 months of serious hormone taking ,,sometime it can take up to a year with really average individuals but they all look great and turns heads right and left

good luck to you,,

gh15 approved
Title: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 26, 2011, 08:18:08 PM
Gh15 this is my first pm question. I'm 28 years old been running cycle since about 22 years old. I was having a lot of success running long ester test only it gave me the look I was looking for. I usually get up to about 215 with 10-12 percent bf. I'm a gym rat not looking for bodybuilding size. Im 6'0 bye the way.

Well lately when I run test I get bloofy. I notice my face gets chubby I get very bloated just from 500mg of test. I don't like the look. Im thinking about running masteron for a few weeks. I have a bunch on the way masteron prop. I want to get my estrogen levels in check and melt off a bit of b.f.
How does this sound

Master prop 1-15 150mg eod
sustanon human grade 500mg ew 3-15

Im hoping the masteron will help me get my bf done a bit lower before I start the test. I don't have the money for much else.


Thank you!


i like masteron when bodyfat is already 8% or lower because thats when it impact the most and really give contribution when mega pounding the testosterona like any bodybuild does,,btu what you wrote is ok ,,it should help


gh15 approved
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 26, 2011, 08:25:46 PM
You have to understand that 99% of people here on Gb will never step foot on a BB stage!! They would love to have the Bloofy bloated look that a lot of pros have! The detail,, etc that you and a lot of the early pro's is gone!! It's all about size nowadays!! You of all people have to realize this!! These folks just wanna get huge to impress there friends and the odd passerby!! The stage is the last thing they ever want to do!! I see you get a little upset when they don't understand what you're saying...well,, they don't!! They don't care about stage!! Just Bigness!!

By the way,, your post are very informative!! Keep'em coming!!

what do you mean they dont,,my pupil stavio is driving himself nuts over some middle east look for already 2 years he is pondering and wondering,,he is all about quality ,,if he get too fat he get depressed like a woman on her period ,, many many want quality still ,,quality = size,,

but ok yes some dont want compete they want size and bloofiness only ,,ok its all good as long as they dont follow thsoe money eaters who tell them balonie

gh15 approved
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 26, 2011, 08:28:52 PM
Was Dorian weak?

Thanks.

far from it,,very strong,,but also average genetic that knew his hormones to the absolit t ,,he was and still is master of pharma drugs,,he is real good with that

gh15 approved
Title: pmq answered
Post by: gh15 on May 26, 2011, 08:30:01 PM
I was just wondering if you think its a must to run an anabolic with t3? I'm not really worried about muscle loss because i doubt it will be enough to worry about after a couple runs of clen/t3. I'm more concerned about getting lean. After I'm going to start using the protocols you have outlined in the Bible. Thanks for your time.

you want to have hormones in blood when running t3,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Benny B on May 26, 2011, 09:45:05 PM
Meh...I say fuck off, ZIONIST.  ;D
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Fitness4Life on May 26, 2011, 09:47:34 PM
what do you mean they dont,,my pupil stavio is driving himself nuts over some middle east look for already 2 years he is pondering and wondering,,he is all about quality ,,if he get too fat he get depressed like a woman on her period ,, many many want quality still ,,quality = size,,

but ok yes some dont want compete they want size and bloofiness only ,,ok its all good as long as they dont follow thsoe money eaters who tell them balonie

gh15 approved

True bodybuilders get like this, I know you're not happy sitting at 12%bf, gh15, anything over that is crap
Title: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 26, 2011, 11:05:39 PM
hello gh15,
what hormones do you reccomend for Israeli bodybuilder? It is my understanding that us people are not meant to be huge but usually do end up with good quality physique aka Sagi Kalev vs the shit type Ukranian fella Steve Kuclo.. I want quality and size without ruining my physique. I think you would be impressed by some of the physiques down here because they absolutely destory the American generation nothingness that you see in American gyms.

and by the way.. you have many followers when I visited gyms in Israel, lots of gym rats talk about the fella gh15,  your reputation is godly half way around the world my friend. Even on the Jewish day of rest "Shabbat", people still use computer to read your postings when technology is forbidden that day lol.

  you are held in high regard with the Jewish people ..VERY high.  take care my friend

if you think this pm will cause problems you should leave my name out though. lots of racist fucks on this sight.

take care

 i couldnt give a flying fuck about the racists,,the owner of the site is a proud jew,,

israeli bodybuilder do best with trenbolona ace ,,cycling testosterona ,,equipona/nppiona and masterona ,,those are the products they look best on in a combo fo all 4,, you have there amit something i think and ofcourse sagi which is your best bodybuild aside from eli hana which is all seo but still he started it there that filthy thief lol but he is jew so he is ok  ,,also you have many israeli good bodybuilders i noticed,,yes isreal is becoming a good place for bodybuilding,,they also have good suppliers ,,some good ug suppliers too,,they do well and ofcourse human grade can be purchased too and teva  do the hgh and can get if smart... so yes israel bodybuilders do well now day

gh15 approved
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: bionic on May 26, 2011, 11:06:47 PM
From MD board today:

Quote from: Shawn Ray;2600582
"Would you consider having Nasser El Sonbaty on a round table discussion or on your radio show?"
Shawns reply: No, he is incredibly Negative and disenchanted with this industry. To sit and listen to him would be painful and depressing.
Nothing good to say about the people, the sport or the industry.
As he would say,"Read my book."
Appearently has a lot to say much of which I'd take with a grain of salt as the Truth is very elusive when he opens his mouth.
Title: Re: inregarding to pms nto being answered
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2011, 11:12:39 PM
fellas,, im exploded with pms,,you got to give me atleast 30 days from time yuo send pm ,,its hard to answer it all ,,and sometime i just feel liek being here and just hav fun ,, i answer within 30 days no need to worry ,,if i forget you i wont next time

gh15 approved

Has it been thirty days yet? Not sure. Guess I should check. Still patiently waiting though.
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: gh15 on May 26, 2011, 11:15:57 PM
ill answer it all ill go and check it later,,just too many pms i skip some then it come to bite me in the ass,, ill answer it all dont you worry

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: g101 on May 26, 2011, 11:22:48 PM
i still find it hard not to use an oral  :(
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 26, 2011, 11:24:03 PM
gh15,

I have a few questions I haven't seen you post an answer to these

1. What needle gauge do you recommend for IM injections in the ass ? Also what gauge should we use for GH/slin to the shoulder ?

22-25,, 1-1.5 inches  for gh and insulina use insulin needle 28-31 1/2 inch ...can be less than half inch between 1/4 and 1/2 inch...1/2 inch is to put it deeper in muscle but can do both since hgh can be also under skin

2. When fully injected the AAS, should we leave the needle in for about 30secs-1minute to fully disperse everything and should we pull out fast or slow after the injection ?

everything with injections should be done slowww and stable,,,sloooow and stable ,,injection should last a good 2 min ,,you should have pull back plunger to see if blood come in ,,if yes then injection begin from the start,,by blood i mean deep dark blood ,,also you need to inject slow especialy the more cc you inject,, no matter even if cook is the best in the business still inject slow becauswe there is such a thing as injection pain if not knowing how to inject

thx !



see inside the posting what i wrote,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 26, 2011, 11:27:04 PM
you can use oral ,,just make sure you dont base your build on orals,,orals are ok just use them wisely ,,and always be in check with your estrogen ,,you cant completely eliminate estrogen but you cant have it sky high either,,you need to have it at balance and the right balanc FOR YOU ,,masterona gets the job done ,,it is such a good drug that within hours you will notice estrogen drop and you get drier...so then it depends... if you get dry enough to the level you want and have neough masterona you can add dianabol and anapolon to your cycles and blow up the right way ,,rememebr we dont want too many aromatizing products unless we have enough masterona to fight estrogenic sides which can be ugly on high testosterona and dianabolona...

gh15 approved
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: Primemuscle on May 26, 2011, 11:30:12 PM
ill answer it all ill go and check it later,,just too many pms i skip some then it come to bite me in the ass,, ill answer it all dont you worry

gh15 approved

Cool.
Title: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: gh15 on May 27, 2011, 09:24:11 AM
this is the last time gh15 is going to write this,,since i know everyone come to read gh15 first thing i expect you to read this and not asking me the same dumb question about this same subject in 5 hour,, i cant answer 20 pms about same exact thing it is waste of my time,, if i write something here it is holy ,,i tell you how we did it at the prime time of bodybuild,,

stop refering me to other boarding ,,i dont care what is there,,most individual on steroid boarding are living a lie and gain money from the sell of peptide and pct balonies and have agendas right and left ...like danta,, like lay nortom,, like the ron herise,, like other profesionals that sell products such seo and the such ,,

when i write here is for the last time in regarding this specific question ,,YOU READ IT,, IF YOU COME HERE FROM DIFF BOARDING YOU READ IT AND THEN UNDERSTAND IT ,,dont make account here just to ask me same thing again and again ,, i tlel you how it is done and i wrote it many times!

________________________ ________________________ __________


we grow because we are lean! we grow because we are LEAN ,,WE GROW BECAUSE WE START THE GROWING PROCESS LEAN ! ,,IT IS IMPORTANTO TO UNDERSTAND ALL TOGETHER NOW...WE GROW BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING FUCKIN LEANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NN

OUR MISSION IS TO FIRST BECOME LEAN THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANTO THIGN IN COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD ,,TO GET AS LEAN AS YOU CAN AND THEN TO TRIGGER THE BOMB ,,this is very important to understand

1. we never go off hormones,,never ever NO MATTER WHO KEVIN ME CHIWAWI WHICH LOVED HORMONES LOVED HORMONES HE WAS SWIMMING IN THEM ,,TO THE MORE ABUSERS OF THE TIME SUCHAS DORIAN AND LIAR PRIEST ETC ,, WE NEVER GO OFF HORMONES,,


NOW ,, WE GET AS LEAN AS WE CAN FIRST ,,WE USE SPECIFIC PRODUCTS SUCH AS TRENBOLONA ACE,,HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG IN OUR REGIMEN ,,IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE WILL GO AND PAY EXTRA JUST TO HAVE THE BEST QUALITY AND WE WILL GO THROUGH HELL INORDER GO GET THE BEST QUALITY ,,THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER,, THEN WE ADD IT TO TESTOSTERONA IN LOW DOSE RELETIVLEY TO OUR SIZE... WE USE BOTH WITH HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE INORDER TO LOSE BODYFAT WITH OUT DOING ANY CARDIO AND WITH EATING PRETTY MUCH NORMAL PERSON DIET WITH MORE BALANCE OFCOURSE BUT A NORMAL PERSON DIET WHICH DOESNT INCLUDE 8 MEAL A DAY ,,AND THE DIF IS WE TAKE HIGH PROTIEN AND TRY TO KEEP IT GENERALY MORE HEALTHY AS IN SUSHI ,,AND GOOD MEATS BUT OVER ALL WHATEVER WE WANT IS OK AS LONG AS DONT SIT AND DRINK OIL AND BUTTER ALL DAY LONG



2. WHEN WE ARE READY TO GROW ,,AND IT IS ALWAYS WHEN WE ARE 6-7% WE BRING IN THE HIGH DOSES OF THE RIGHT DRUGS,,

THOSE DRUGS INCLUDE TESTOSTERONA LONG ESTER OR SUSTANONA IT GOES INTO THE GRAMS ,,THEN NPPIONA WHICH IS HIGHLY HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG THAT GIVE YOU THE THICKNESS YOU WANT FROM WITHIN THE MUSCLE NTO ONLY THE OVER ALL THICKNESS OF THE PHYSIQE BUT THICKNES OF INDIVIDUAL MUSCLES,,W ADD IT TO THE TRENBOLONA WHICH IS ALWAYS THERE IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW IT IS ALWYS THERE BECAUSE THIS IS OUR ANABOLIC FAT BURNER OF CHOICE ,,NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IT KEEP YOU BURNING FAT AND IF ALREADY VERY LOW BODYFAT IT KEEP YOU THERE WHILE GROWING!,,AND OFCOURSE THE MUTATION INTO THE MID 200S AKA 220 230 240 ONLY HAPPEN WITH HIGHER DOSES GH ,,USUALLY 15 + WITH EVERY PROFESIONAL WHO IS WORTH A SECOND LOOK ,, THE INSULINA IS THERE TOO ...SOME USE MORE SOME USE LESS ,,THIS GENERATION USE MORE AND YOU SEE IT IN THE POOR QUALITY PHYSIQES BUT! THE ONLY ! REASON FOR THE NASTY MUTATIONS YOU SEE AROUND IS SEVERE SEVRE ! ABUSE OF GH AND INSULINA ALONG WITH TRENBOLONA TO KEEP THE NASTY FACTOR ,,AND THE NASTY FACTOR IS PART OF ANY BODYBUILD WHO MAKE DAMAGE ,,SEE JASON IN 2009 O ,,SEE KAI ,,SEE ANY ONE OF THE 90S LEAD BY THE MURDERER WHO WAS SEVERE ABUSER OF TRENBOLONA !


now ,,diuretic,,diuretic is bodybuuld best friend ,,you will nevr be shrinked wraped into your skin with out water betwen the abdominal tunels unles you are on diuretic ,,thats why we have kidny problems among the ones who have no idea what they do and bodybuild who dont know their drugs well,,this is what causes the problems THE CONSTANT USAGE OF DIURETIC ,,we all do it ,,if we say we dont WE LIE,,


that is it friends,,i wrote it here prety clear,,read it many times before askin same questions again ,,

doses are high when it come to big size,,it always been this way ,,250 lb 5'8 is SWIMMIUG ON HORMONES AND MEGA DOSES OF THEM ! 5'10 210 ...isi using less but still swimming in hormones... again im talking conditioned bodybuild 6% 7% nto 15% ,,we all swim in hormones ,,when you talk about fellas who use little doses they are usualy 5'10 180-185lb on stage ...they also the ones who use lots of bunk stuff

there is a big hush hush around this because bodybuild does not want you to look like him ,,if you do then what make bodybuilder special? you got that right absolitly nothing,,IF YOU KNEW THAT DRUGS IS EVERYTHING AS IN 90% OF THE EQUIATION ...THEN WHAT MAKE THE BODYBUILD SPECIAL ,,HE JUST BECOME ANOTHER DRUG ABUSER ,,AND YOU FRIEND WILL FIND IT OUT YOUR OWN WAY ,,AND WHEN YOU DO YOU WIL BE FULL OF ANGER ,,AND YOU WILL THINK VERY LOW OF THOSE LIZARDS,, BUT YOU TOO WILL PROBABLY LIE,,THIS IS WHAT I TRY TO STOP ALONG THE YEARS,, AND I THINK I DID QUITE OK ,,THE LIES HAVE REDUCED ALONG THE SPECTRUM,,THEY ARE STILL THERE WITH THE SO CALL NATURALS AND STIL THERE WITH THE PUSHERS OF SUPPLEMTNS AND OTHER AGENDAS,,BUT THE LIES REDUCED DRAMATICALY FROM EARLY 2000S

good luck to you ,,be smart !

gh15 approved
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Meso_z on May 27, 2011, 09:33:25 AM
this is the last time gh15 is going to write this,,since i know everyone come to read gh15 first thing i expect you to read this and not asking me the same dumb question about this same subject in 5 hour,, i cant answer 20 pms about same exact thing it is waste of my time,, if i write something here it is holy ,,i tell you how we did it at the prime time of bodybuild,,

stop refering me to other boarding ,,i dont care what is there,,most individual on steroid boarding are living a lie and gain money from the sell of peptide and pct balonies and have agendas right and left ...like danta,, like lay nortom,, like the ron herise,, like other profesionals that sell products such seo and the such ,,

when i write here is for the last time in regarding this specific question ,,YOU READ IT,, IF YOU COME HERE FROM DIFF BOARDING YOU READ IT AND THEN UNDERSTAND IT ,,dont make account here just to ask me same thing again and again ,, i tlel you how it is done and i wrote it many times!

________________________ ________________________ __________


we grow because we are lean! we grow because we are LEAN ,,WE GROW BECAUSE WE START THE GROWING PROCESS LEAN ! ,,IT IS IMPORTANTO TO UNDERSTAND ALL TOGETHER NOW...WE GROW BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING FUCKIN LEANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NN

OUR MISSION IS TO FIRST BECOME LEAN THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANTO THIGN IN COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD ,,TO GET AS LEAN AS YOU CAN AND THEN TO TRIGGER THE BOMB ,,this is very important to understand

1. we never go off hormones,,never ever NO MATTER WHO KEVIN ME CHIWAWI WHICH LOVED HORMONES LOVED HORMONES HE WAS SWIMMING IN THEM ,,TO THE MORE ABUSERS OF THE TIME SUCHAS DORIAN AND LIAR PRIEST ETC ,, WE NEVER GO OFF HORMONES,,


NOW ,, WE GET AS LEAN AS WE CAN FIRST ,,WE USE SPECIFIC PRODUCTS SUCH AS TRENBOLONA ACE,,HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG IN OUR REGIMEN ,,IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE WILL GO AND PAY EXTRA JUST TO HAVE THE BEST QUALITY AND WE WILL GO THROUGH HELL INORDER GO GET THE BEST QUALITY ,,THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER,, THEN WE ADD IT TO TESTOSTERONA IN LOW DOSE RELETIVLEY TO OUR SIZE... WE USE BOTH WITH HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE INORDER TO LOSE BODYFAT WITH OUT DOING ANY CARDIO AND WITH EATING PRETTY MUCH NORMAL PERSON DIET WITH MORE BALANCE OFCOURSE BUT A NORMAL PERSON DIET WHICH DOESNT INCLUDE 8 MEAL A DAY ,,AND THE DIF IS WE TAKE HIGH PROTIEN AND TRY TO KEEP IT GENERALY MORE HEALTHY AS IN SUSHI ,,AND GOOD MEATS BUT OVER ALL WHATEVER WE WANT IS OK AS LONG AS DONT SIT AND DRINK OIL AND BUTTER ALL DAY LONG



2. WHEN WE ARE READY TO GROW ,,AND IT IS ALWAYS WHEN WE ARE 6-7% WE BRING IN THE HIGH DOSES OF THE RIGHT DRUGS,,

THOSE DRUGS INCLUDE TESTOSTERONA LONG ESTER OR SUSTANONA IT GOES INTO THE GRAMS ,,THEN NPPIONA WHICH IS HIGHLY HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG THAT GIVE YOU THE THICKNESS YOU WANT FROM WITHIN THE MUSCLE NTO ONLY THE OVER ALL THICKNESS OF THE PHYSIQE BUT THICKNES OF INDIVIDUAL MUSCLES,,W ADD IT TO THE TRENBOLONA WHICH IS ALWAYS THERE IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW IT IS ALWYS THERE BECAUSE THIS IS OUR ANABOLIC FAT BURNER OF CHOICE ,,NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IT KEEP YOU BURNING FAT AND IF ALREADY VERY LOW BODYFAT IT KEEP YOU THERE WHILE GROWING!,,AND OFCOURSE THE MUTATION INTO THE MID 200S AKA 220 230 240 ONLY HAPPEN WITH HIGHER DOSES GH ,,USUALLY 15 + WITH EVERY PROFESIONAL WHO IS WORTH A SECOND LOOK ,, THE INSULINA IS THERE TOO ...SOME USE MORE SOME USE LESS ,,THIS GENERATION USE MORE AND YOU SEE IT IN THE POOR QUALITY PHYSIQES BUT! THE ONLY ! REASON FOR THE NASTY MUTATIONS YOU SEE AROUND IS SEVERE SEVRE ! ABUSE OF GH AND INSULINA ALONG WITH TRENBOLONA TO KEEP THE NASTY FACTOR ,,AND THE NASTY FACTOR IS PART OF ANY BODYBUILD WHO MAKE DAMAGE ,,SEE JASON IN 2009 O ,,SEE KAI ,,SEE ANY ONE OF THE 90S LEAD BY THE MURDERER WHO WAS SEVERE ABUSER OF TRENBOLONA !


now ,,diuretic,,diuretic is bodybuuld best friend ,,you will nevr be shrinked wraped into your skin with out water betwen the abdominal tunels unles you are on diuretic ,,thats why we have kidny problems among the ones who have no idea what they do and bodybuild who dont know their drugs well,,this is what causes the problems THE CONSTANT USAGE OF DIURETIC ,,we all do it ,,if we say we dont WE LIE,,


that is it friends,,i wrote it here prety clear,,read it many times before askin same questions again ,,

doses are high when it come to big size,,it always been this way ,,250 lb 5'8 is SWIMMIUG ON HORMONES AND MEGA DOSES OF THEM ! 5'10 210 ...isi using less but still swimming in hormones... again im talking conditioned bodybuild 6% 7% nto 15% ,,we all swim in hormones ,,when you talk about fellas who use little doses they are usualy 5'10 180-185lb on stage ...they also the ones who use lots of bunk stuff

there is a big hush hush around this because bodybuild does not want you to look like him ,,if you do then what make bodybuilder special? you got that right absolitly nothing,,IF YOU KNEW THAT DRUGS IS EVERYTHING AS IN 90% OF THE EQUIATION ...THEN WHAT MAKE THE BODYBUILD SPECIAL ,,HE JUST BECOME ANOTHER DRUG ABUSER ,,AND YOU FRIEND WILL FIND IT OUT YOUR OWN WAY ,,AND WHEN YOU DO YOU WIL BE FULL OF ANGER ,,AND YOU WILL THINK VERY LOW OF THOSE LIZARDS,, BUT YOU TOO WILL PROBABLY LIE,,THIS IS WHAT I TRY TO STOP ALONG THE YEARS,, AND I THINK I DID QUITE OK ,,THE LIES HAVE REDUCED ALONG THE SPECTRUM,,THEY ARE STILL THERE WITH THE SO CALL NATURALS AND STIL THERE WITH THE PUSHERS OF SUPPLEMTNS AND OTHER AGENDAS,,BUT THE LIES REDUCED DRAMATICALY FROM EARLY 2000S

good luck to you ,,be smart !

gh15 approved
gh15 I never undertood the "constant use" of diuretics...you said that in a lot of past and present posts.

What do you mean by this? Use it everyday to look dry?

How do you use it?
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: no one on May 27, 2011, 09:40:13 AM
good post.

esp about growing lean. GH + the right compounds + cals in = lean tissue. you have to be LEAN for this to work. 5-6%. you won't get fat doing it like this. just put on slabs if lean. if you think your getting fat it's just the water from the GH. cut your carbs out for a day or two and 36-48 hours and you'll see it's only water. you won't need a diuretic to push the water out your body will release it on it's own.

GH/tren/prop/mast + cals @6%bf = freakshow in 3 months
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 27, 2011, 09:46:08 AM
Legit Deca can replace npp ?
(as it's really hard to find legit npp)
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: no one on May 27, 2011, 09:50:37 AM
Legit Deca can replace npp ?
(as it's really hard to find legit npp)

no. not by a long shot. npp is a very special compound. once you try it you'll know why. it's the closest compound that comes near mimicking the effects of GH in terms of the kind of fullness it gives you. it literally blows your muscle up from the inside out.

tren = grainy density

npp = roundness and fullness of the muscle belly.
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Playboy on May 27, 2011, 09:56:28 AM
no. not by a long shot. npp is a very special compound. once you try it you'll know why. it's the closest compound that comes near mimicking the effects of GH in terms of the kind of fullness it gives you. it literally blows your muscle up from the inside out.

tren = grainy density

npp = roundness and fullness of the muscle belly.
Very interesting.
Title: TEAM GH15
Post by: g101 on May 27, 2011, 10:17:03 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 27, 2011, 10:27:33 AM
no. not by a long shot. npp is a very special compound. once you try it you'll know why. it's the closest compound that comes near mimicking the effects of GH in terms of the kind of fullness it gives you. it literally blows your muscle up from the inside out.

tren = grainy density

npp = roundness and fullness of the muscle belly.

So Tren + NPP = grainy density and fullness and roundness, i need to get some NPP :)
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: g101 on May 27, 2011, 10:37:23 AM
I never tried tren ace + NPP in the same stack but i've done tren + deca

that was once intense cycle very happy with it
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Bam-bam on May 27, 2011, 10:39:42 AM
npp, wtf is that?
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 27, 2011, 10:42:37 AM
npp, wtf is that?

Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate, short ester version of Deca
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: gh15 on May 27, 2011, 10:45:11 AM
it is not only the hormones combination for nothing my friends,,this specific hormone combination is what causes severe hunger and the need to eat all the time,,this is how we blow up,,it is very hard to explain it unless you did it hands on ,,reason is many of the noel liars,,and the danta liars and the rest of the cheap change money makers that make money on you with their big true protien advertizment on every steroid boarding,,they pay good money so they can lie to you ,, it is very hard to explain it unless you been through it

the anabolic window only open up in full capacity when you have the combo of drugs i outlined,,

there is a reason i put trenbolona ace and npp togher,,there is a reason i put it all with hgh and there is a reason why i blast on the testosterona ....all those specific hormones causes severe hunger while utilize together ,,they create hunger every couple hours and at times in less than 2 hours,,they can take any 40 year old and make him 20 again and better 20 than other 20 year old natural eaters...

the reason many do not get to full capacity while using the products is

1. they have bunk products

2. they sit home and eat but they grow enough to swatisfy their brain ,,mean they feel full and ripped ,, they already feel 3 dimentional and since they dont do it to be competetiv ein high levels they do not go to eat everytime when hungry ,,they dont push the calories needed with the hormones ,,hormones by themselves will get you very large and ripped but inorder to get to next level the calories should be there ,,next level now day is diff than what it ws in 60s ,,in the 60s you didnt not have to push much calories ,,now day you need to hit the 3000-4000 easy on growth hormone npp testosterona and trenbolona,,you dont need to overeat like many do but you need to hit the food everytime you are hungry

iinregarding to distended bellies guts,, insulina is what creates it ,,not food,,it is insulina prolonged use of it,,no insulina will = no distended gut,,no matter how much gh you use ,,it is insulina that take what you eat and put it into the muscle and the muscles are also in the stomack friends,,
gh with aas create top of the line physiqes ,,with little insulina you still can pull it with a lot of insulina you cant,,thats what created the shit you see now on stage ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: g101 on May 27, 2011, 10:45:38 AM
oh look,

we have Team Philsulin now  ;D ;D

Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: gh15 on May 27, 2011, 10:47:36 AM
I never tried tren ace + NPP in the same stack but i've done tren + deca

that was once intense cycle very happy with it

there is no better combination for competetive bodybuiding growth than tren ace/ npp/ growth hormone/ and high doses of testosterona into the 1200 mg +  ...this is how we grow friends,,all of us! ,,we start lean you need to remember that WE START LEAN ,,if you do it start lean so all the size is lean and the surprize factor is great ,,remember you dont see no muscle under fat,,it is you being lean that allow you to see how much 5lb of muscle truly is

gh15 approved
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Noel Fuller on May 27, 2011, 10:54:01 AM
Diuretics are used short term only, 4 days precontest.
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: g101 on May 27, 2011, 10:55:27 AM
Diuretics are used short term only, 4 days precontest.

lol........  ::)
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Deicide on May 27, 2011, 10:58:02 AM
This is clearly a case of generation nothingness...
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: gh15 on May 27, 2011, 11:14:23 AM
Diuretics are used short term only, 4 days precontest.

wrong!,,diuretics used along the year,,the main bulk of it is done pre competition ,,but and its a big but! and this is no one tell you ,,everytime a bodybuild get to new size,,he shrink wrapped it with diuretic in his own time ,,alwys have the right duiretic on the side to experiemtn with,,

i for example love diazide ,,dorian too love love love diazide

many like aldactone ,,women in particular,,shemales too

many like a combo of lasix and diazide when they push in the lasix injectable because they fucked up prep to begin with and need quick fix,,

many are just drug addicts and like injectable lasix because ,,well lol its injectable lasix ,,strong as a mother fucker,, many do it especialy the severe drug addicts and the bigger fellas


aldactisize is recomended by me in many times but as i always prefer diazide and most in the know in high competetiv elevels prefr diazide straight out due to its potasimum sparing effect and the very short intake its needs,,

diureticplay a major role in bodybuilder having health problems,,many just dont know what they do ,,many just follow GURUS like noel and fuck themselves up,,many dont have enough experiement on their body because they were reading on steroid boards bunch of balonie of how it flaten you out and they afraid to lose muscle when they already walking 6% ...and need that diuretic and as far as 24 hour from the magzine look they so desire ,,

generally speaking diuretic is very common in bodybuild and the reason you see magazine level looks aside for airbrush and all that balonie ,,the diuretic is something you have to use for paper thin skin and absolut shreddiness/peelness,,it can not be done with nutrition timing only it will always lack if done with by nutrition only because the human body is not capable of gettign rid of this water by itself no matter how much asparagus you fart out of your asshole

now this ,,is the truth ,,you see the diff between filth liars that try to make a buck and keep secrets...like noel ,,and myself god of hormones

gh15 approved
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Brocty on May 27, 2011, 11:24:12 AM
gh15

can you share some of the safest diuretic protocols with us....  And tell us what to avoid?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 27, 2011, 11:24:53 AM
i couldnt give a flying fuck about the racists,,the owner of the site is a proud jew,,

israeli bodybuilder do best with trenbolona ace ,,cycling testosterona ,,equipona/nppiona and masterona ,,those are the products they look best on in a combo fo all 4,, you have there amit something i think and ofcourse sagi which is your best bodybuild aside from eli hana which is all seo but still he started it there that filthy thief lol but he is jew so he is ok  ,,also you have many israeli good bodybuilders i noticed,,yes isreal is becoming a good place for bodybuilding,,they also have good suppliers ,,some good ug suppliers too,,they do well and ofcourse human grade can be purchased too and teva  do the hgh and can get if smart... so yes israel bodybuilders do well now day

gh15 approved
I don't think Israeli bodybuilders follow the bible
take a look here


Sagi Kalev and Amit Sapir are two exceptions and they blown up when they moved to USA
Top bodybuilders in Israel abuse UG stuff (good UG but not legit cook)
there is quality GH, but you will end up spend more money than you would on real Humatrope
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Meso_z on May 27, 2011, 11:32:01 AM
wrong!,,diuretics used along the year,,the main bulk of it is done pre competition ,,but and its a big but! and this is no one tell you ,,everytime a bodybuild get to new size,,he shrink wrapped it with diuretic in his own time ,,alwys have the right duiretic on the side to experiemtn with,,

i for example love diazide ,,dorian too love love love diazide

many like aldactone ,,women in particular,,shemales too

many like a combo of lasix and diazide when they push in the lasix injectable because they fucked up prep to begin with and need quick fix,,

many are just drug addicts and like injectable lasix because ,,well lol its injectable lasix ,,strong as a mother fucker,, many do it especialy the severe drug addicts and the bigger fellas


aldactisize is recomended by me in many times but as i always prefer diazide and most in the know in high competetiv elevels prefr diazide straight out due to its potasimum sparing effect and the very short intake its needs,,

diureticplay a major role in bodybuilder having health problems,,many just dont know what they do ,,many just follow GURUS like noel and fuck themselves up,,many dont have enough experiement on their body because they were reading on steroid boards bunch of balonie of how it flaten you out and they afraid to lose muscle when they already walking 6% ...and need that diuretic and as far as 24 hour from the magzine look they so desire ,,

generally speaking diuretic is very common in bodybuild and the reason you see magazine level looks aside for airbrush and all that balonie ,,the diuretic is something you have to use for paper thin skin and absolut shreddiness/peelness,,it can not be done with nutrition timing only it will always lack if done with by nutrition only because the human body is not capable of gettign rid of this water by itself no matter how much asparagus you fart out of your asshole

now this ,,is the truth ,,you see the diff between filth liars that try to make a buck and keep secrets...like noel ,,and myself god of hormones

gh15 approved
How would you recommend someone use diazide? (not for competition)
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: The RedMeatKid on May 27, 2011, 11:54:57 AM
I remember Arnold saying he got to his absolute biggest just by tons of lifting and big eating.  He said he only used drugs to hold on to muscle while in pre-contest mold.
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on May 27, 2011, 01:06:58 PM
I remember Arnold saying he got to his absolute biggest just by tons of lifting and big eating.  He said he only used drugs to hold on to muscle while in pre-contest mold.

lol
Title: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on May 27, 2011, 02:15:26 PM
Should a "natural", who normally sits at 6'1" and 200 at about 16% get very lean before starting to grow?
Or, as a "natural", should the trainee (me) just keep at it, have fun, and not give a fuck?

everyone shoudl be lean before they start growing,,but! remember friend with no hormone lean for 6'1 200lb 16% will be a sad number especialy for this height when very lean ....so if natural and truely natural better walking around 15% 200 then leaning to 175 high singles... because even when you lean to 175...you will have to grow on hormones later on inorder to get to look impressive for your height


gh15 approved

Title: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: tweeter on May 27, 2011, 04:03:25 PM
What do you think....natural or enhanced?
Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: 225for70 on May 27, 2011, 04:05:16 PM
Not currently..

However, He did mess around with hormonas in the past..Just read the bible.
Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: tweeter on May 27, 2011, 04:06:37 PM
Not currently..

However, He did mess around with hormonas in the past..Just read the bible.
Is anyone going to actually compile the gh15 bible? It is too hard to try to search over this posts for everything. Did he actually mention Kobe Bryant in the past?
Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: Army of One on May 27, 2011, 04:08:19 PM
4 summers back he put on 25 pounds of muscle in 3-4 months, most top tier nba players are on HGH.
Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: tweeter on May 27, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
4 summers back he put on 25 pounds of muscle in 3-4 months, most top tier nba players are on HGH.
What do you think Dwight Howard is on?
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: chunkramwell on May 27, 2011, 04:37:54 PM
wrong!,,diuretics used along the year,,the main bulk of it is done pre competition ,,but and its a big but! and this is no one tell you ,,everytime a bodybuild get to new size,,he shrink wrapped it with diuretic in his own time ,,alwys have the right duiretic on the side to experiemtn with,,

i for example love diazide ,,dorian too love love love diazide

many like aldactone ,,women in particular,,shemales too

many like a combo of lasix and diazide when they push in the lasix injectable because they fucked up prep to begin with and need quick fix,,

many are just drug addicts and like injectable lasix because ,,well lol its injectable lasix ,,strong as a mother fucker,, many do it especialy the severe drug addicts and the bigger fellas


aldactisize is recomended by me in many times but as i always prefer diazide and most in the know in high competetiv elevels prefr diazide straight out due to its potasimum sparing effect and the very short intake its needs,,

diureticplay a major role in bodybuilder having health problems,,many just dont know what they do ,,many just follow GURUS like noel and fuck themselves up,,many dont have enough experiement on their body because they were reading on steroid boards bunch of balonie of how it flaten you out and they afraid to lose muscle when they already walking 6% ...and need that diuretic and as far as 24 hour from the magzine look they so desire ,,

generally speaking diuretic is very common in bodybuild and the reason you see magazine level looks aside for airbrush and all that balonie ,,the diuretic is something you have to use for paper thin skin and absolut shreddiness/peelness,,it can not be done with nutrition timing only it will always lack if done with by nutrition only because the human body is not capable of gettign rid of this water by itself no matter how much asparagus you fart out of your asshole

now this ,,is the truth ,,you see the diff between filth liars that try to make a buck and keep secrets...like noel ,,and myself god of hormones

gh15 approved

gh15, you nasty!   ;D
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: EL Mariachi on May 27, 2011, 05:16:22 PM
i didnt read this post but i agree 100%
Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on May 27, 2011, 05:19:34 PM
You just know that he is playing around with HGH/low test like the rest of them. He saw what happened to MJ and is hanging on for dear life now.
Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: DK II on May 27, 2011, 05:24:12 PM
You just know that he is playing around with HGH/low test like the rest of them. He saw what happened to MJ and is hanging on for dear life now.

as a professional athlete, you would be dumb not to.
Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: 2ND COMING on May 27, 2011, 05:43:33 PM
Nba players have impunity from failed FIBA and olympic drug tests.
Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: arce1988 on May 27, 2011, 06:05:07 PM
  YES.
Title: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: che on May 27, 2011, 06:26:49 PM
Do steroids make you tired or give you more energy ?
Do steroids  make your joints hurt or  it make them feel better ?

What's your personal experience?
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Noel Fuller on May 27, 2011, 06:28:57 PM
GH makes you tired, tren energy, deca makes joints bulletproof
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: The RedMeatKid on May 27, 2011, 06:33:13 PM
Back off of the thread Fuller...this is all about gh15, so beat it.
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Noel Fuller on May 27, 2011, 06:40:47 PM
Ya ya sorry, I forgot
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: che on May 27, 2011, 06:40:55 PM
GH makes you tired, tren energy, deca makes joints bulletproof

Thank you for your answer Noel Fuller .

Back off of the thread Fuller...this is all about gh15, so beat it.

 ;D
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 27, 2011, 06:45:06 PM
Depends on what you use. When I'm off hrt I feel like shit. Just the opposite when I'm on.
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 27, 2011, 06:45:24 PM
LOL !! Damn ! Tough crowd ! Lol !
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: che on May 27, 2011, 06:52:45 PM
When I'm off hrt I feel like shit.

Mentally or physically ,Coach ?
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 27, 2011, 06:53:43 PM
Both
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 27, 2011, 06:54:34 PM
this is the last time gh15 is going to write this,,since i know everyone come to read gh15 first thing i expect you to read this and not asking me the same dumb question about this same subject in 5 hour,, i cant answer 20 pms about same exact thing it is waste of my time,, if i write something here it is holy ,,i tell you how we did it at the prime time of bodybuild,,

stop refering me to other boarding ,,i dont care what is there,,most individual on steroid boarding are living a lie and gain money from the sell of peptide and pct balonies and have agendas right and left ...like danta,, like lay nortom,, like the ron herise,, like other profesionals that sell products such seo and the such ,,

when i write here is for the last time in regarding this specific question ,,YOU READ IT,, IF YOU COME HERE FROM DIFF BOARDING YOU READ IT AND THEN UNDERSTAND IT ,,dont make account here just to ask me same thing again and again ,, i tlel you how it is done and i wrote it many times!

________________________ ________________________ __________


we grow because we are lean! we grow because we are LEAN ,,WE GROW BECAUSE WE START THE GROWING PROCESS LEAN ! ,,IT IS IMPORTANTO TO UNDERSTAND ALL TOGETHER NOW...WE GROW BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING FUCKIN LEANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NN

OUR MISSION IS TO FIRST BECOME LEAN THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANTO THIGN IN COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD ,,TO GET AS LEAN AS YOU CAN AND THEN TO TRIGGER THE BOMB ,,this is very important to understand

1. we never go off hormones,,never ever NO MATTER WHO KEVIN ME CHIWAWI WHICH LOVED HORMONES LOVED HORMONES HE WAS SWIMMING IN THEM ,,TO THE MORE ABUSERS OF THE TIME SUCHAS DORIAN AND LIAR PRIEST ETC ,, WE NEVER GO OFF HORMONES,,


NOW ,, WE GET AS LEAN AS WE CAN FIRST ,,WE USE SPECIFIC PRODUCTS SUCH AS TRENBOLONA ACE,,HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG IN OUR REGIMEN ,,IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE WILL GO AND PAY EXTRA JUST TO HAVE THE BEST QUALITY AND WE WILL GO THROUGH HELL INORDER GO GET THE BEST QUALITY ,,THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER,, THEN WE ADD IT TO TESTOSTERONA IN LOW DOSE RELETIVLEY TO OUR SIZE... WE USE BOTH WITH HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE INORDER TO LOSE BODYFAT WITH OUT DOING ANY CARDIO AND WITH EATING PRETTY MUCH NORMAL PERSON DIET WITH MORE BALANCE OFCOURSE BUT A NORMAL PERSON DIET WHICH DOESNT INCLUDE 8 MEAL A DAY ,,AND THE DIF IS WE TAKE HIGH PROTIEN AND TRY TO KEEP IT GENERALY MORE HEALTHY AS IN SUSHI ,,AND GOOD MEATS BUT OVER ALL WHATEVER WE WANT IS OK AS LONG AS DONT SIT AND DRINK OIL AND BUTTER ALL DAY LONG



2. WHEN WE ARE READY TO GROW ,,AND IT IS ALWAYS WHEN WE ARE 6-7% WE BRING IN THE HIGH DOSES OF THE RIGHT DRUGS,,

THOSE DRUGS INCLUDE TESTOSTERONA LONG ESTER OR SUSTANONA IT GOES INTO THE GRAMS ,,THEN NPPIONA WHICH IS HIGHLY HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG THAT GIVE YOU THE THICKNESS YOU WANT FROM WITHIN THE MUSCLE NTO ONLY THE OVER ALL THICKNESS OF THE PHYSIQE BUT THICKNES OF INDIVIDUAL MUSCLES,,W ADD IT TO THE TRENBOLONA WHICH IS ALWAYS THERE IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW IT IS ALWYS THERE BECAUSE THIS IS OUR ANABOLIC FAT BURNER OF CHOICE ,,NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IT KEEP YOU BURNING FAT AND IF ALREADY VERY LOW BODYFAT IT KEEP YOU THERE WHILE GROWING!,,AND OFCOURSE THE MUTATION INTO THE MID 200S AKA 220 230 240 ONLY HAPPEN WITH HIGHER DOSES GH ,,USUALLY 15 + WITH EVERY PROFESIONAL WHO IS WORTH A SECOND LOOK ,, THE INSULINA IS THERE TOO ...SOME USE MORE SOME USE LESS ,,THIS GENERATION USE MORE AND YOU SEE IT IN THE POOR QUALITY PHYSIQES BUT! THE ONLY ! REASON FOR THE NASTY MUTATIONS YOU SEE AROUND IS SEVERE SEVRE ! ABUSE OF GH AND INSULINA ALONG WITH TRENBOLONA TO KEEP THE NASTY FACTOR ,,AND THE NASTY FACTOR IS PART OF ANY BODYBUILD WHO MAKE DAMAGE ,,SEE JASON IN 2009 O ,,SEE KAI ,,SEE ANY ONE OF THE 90S LEAD BY THE MURDERER WHO WAS SEVERE ABUSER OF TRENBOLONA !


now ,,diuretic,,diuretic is bodybuuld best friend ,,you will nevr be shrinked wraped into your skin with out water betwen the abdominal tunels unles you are on diuretic ,,thats why we have kidny problems among the ones who have no idea what they do and bodybuild who dont know their drugs well,,this is what causes the problems THE CONSTANT USAGE OF DIURETIC ,,we all do it ,,if we say we dont WE LIE,,


that is it friends,,i wrote it here prety clear,,read it many times before askin same questions again ,,

doses are high when it come to big size,,it always been this way ,,250 lb 5'8 is SWIMMIUG ON HORMONES AND MEGA DOSES OF THEM ! 5'10 210 ...isi using less but still swimming in hormones... again im talking conditioned bodybuild 6% 7% nto 15% ,,we all swim in hormones ,,when you talk about fellas who use little doses they are usualy 5'10 180-185lb on stage ...they also the ones who use lots of bunk stuff

there is a big hush hush around this because bodybuild does not want you to look like him ,,if you do then what make bodybuilder special? you got that right absolitly nothing,,IF YOU KNEW THAT DRUGS IS EVERYTHING AS IN 90% OF THE EQUIATION ...THEN WHAT MAKE THE BODYBUILD SPECIAL ,,HE JUST BECOME ANOTHER DRUG ABUSER ,,AND YOU FRIEND WILL FIND IT OUT YOUR OWN WAY ,,AND WHEN YOU DO YOU WIL BE FULL OF ANGER ,,AND YOU WILL THINK VERY LOW OF THOSE LIZARDS,, BUT YOU TOO WILL PROBABLY LIE,,THIS IS WHAT I TRY TO STOP ALONG THE YEARS,, AND I THINK I DID QUITE OK ,,THE LIES HAVE REDUCED ALONG THE SPECTRUM,,THEY ARE STILL THERE WITH THE SO CALL NATURALS AND STIL THERE WITH THE PUSHERS OF SUPPLEMTNS AND OTHER AGENDAS,,BUT THE LIES REDUCED DRAMATICALY FROM EARLY 2000S

good luck to you ,,be smart !

gh15 approved


This will be the first thing I read EVERY day for a VERY LONG time !! Thanks, God ! :)
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Firemuscle on May 27, 2011, 06:58:30 PM
GH makes you tired, tren energy, deca makes joints bulletproof

 How's that mid-life crisis going?
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: The RedMeatKid on May 27, 2011, 07:07:31 PM
The Coach needs to back off.
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 27, 2011, 07:09:41 PM
The Coach needs to back off.

Back off of what??
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: chunkramwell on May 27, 2011, 07:28:49 PM
This is why I'm working on the bible, our man doesn't need to be answering this stuff repeatedly.

Also this is his training prescription.




this is a pm question ill answer here so many can benefit from it.

1) bigger arms is more a matter of training than a matter of calories.

2) the less exercises you will do the bigger your arms will get.

3) the more exercises of the "less exercises" done correctly, the bigger your arms will continue to get.

4) work heavy but only as heavy as you can go correctly! work to failure! it might be 12 reps or 9 reps or 6 reps as long as muscle fails.

5) 2 sets each exercise/ 3exercises bicep ans 3exercises triceps. all 6 done in the same workout session.

6) i suggest following routine: monday-arms/tuesday-legs/wed off/thursday-back/friday-chest and shoulders/ sat-sun off

7) training should never be longer than 50-60 min (including warm up and or ab work)

8) high intensity

9) i find machine work to be better when stuck. combine machines and free weights.

10) exercises are all good and have their place as long as you do them right!

11) always flex in the mirror no matter what others think of you.

*if hormones are being used and/or arms are already 20 inches,, the strategy can be changed some (weights/sets) i would still keep it more or less the same. SIMPLICITY is the word.


Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: nosleep on May 27, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
its called HGH. majority of nba players are on it.
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: nosleep on May 27, 2011, 07:45:02 PM
coach you are a FAT steroid abuser...nothing less.
Title: Re: GH15, is Kobe on anything?
Post by: BIG ACH on May 27, 2011, 07:45:55 PM
He's on every piece of ass that walks by lol
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Bam-bam on May 27, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
Back off of the thread Fuller...this is all about gh15, so beat it.

dont be a prick, the guy lives the industry and if he wants to contirbute in good hearth let it be
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: nosleep on May 27, 2011, 07:49:41 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 27, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
Hahahaha, well well well...a gimmick. Hahahahaha
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 27, 2011, 07:53:41 PM
This is why I'm working on the bible, our man doesn't need to be answering this stuff repeatedly.

Also this is his training prescription.




If there's one man that can do it, it's you Chunk. And I'm being very serious. You da man, brotha !! ;D
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: OTHstrong on May 27, 2011, 07:54:34 PM
GH makes you tired, tren energy, deca makes joints bulletproof
Back off of the thread Fuller...this is all about gh15, so beat it.
Ya ya sorry, I forgot
lmao, lol,,, hahahahah, that just made my day ;D
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: chunkramwell on May 27, 2011, 08:33:56 PM

If there's one man that can do it, it's you Chunk. And I'm being very serious. You da man, brotha !! ;D

gee thanks, here's another classic for you

well i have done "few" competition in my life ;) but i'm not the issue here. i wrote this post in order to help you somewhat in putting muscle size. the bodybuilder who eats clean all year round will never put muscle size and will always look the same from year to year! might be better conditioned due to hormone use and training but his overall muscle mass will remain stuck around the same numbers plus minus 2-3lb.

you must stop reading bullshit this is the first key to getting anywhere in bodybuilding. you need ZERO supp and i talk to you here from my heart trying to help you...trust me i got a lot better things to do...anyways no supp needed! only calories and lots of them with constant hormone use and good 4-5 times/ week training in a gym of your choice

you must understand that in the 40s 50s 60s 70s and even 80s no  one went by the 8 clean meals a day idea....they ate a lot and everything in site and tried to keep it clean few months pre competition and that is it! in the offseason the key was lots of calories/day with intense, hard and good form training.

the reason you see us pros so big is  mainly the calories we eat with the response we have to hormones. when i say calories we eat i am talking offseason calories and that includes almost everything! from curly fries to steaks to puncakes to spagetti to sushi to even chinease!!! ask dex a little he will tell you...actually he probably wont bother to tell you that.. why arguing and trying to explain...we eat everything in the offseason like a regular person only diff is that we eat like 2 regular persons and thats why we also look like 2 regular persons combined.

the best example i can find inorder to get it in your head is the local cop in your us city/town....take a good look at the local police in your town. they are always big right? they dont look at what they eat...yet they always look big and you always ask yourself...damn how come i train so hard and then when they come to bust my friend;) or to train in my gym or to buy something in 7-11  those cops look 2 times bigger than me and a lot THICKER.....the answer is food baba LOTS OF FOOD! it dont matter that 80% of them are fat pigs...but under those 40-42 inch waist there is lots and lots of muscle...let them eat clean for 2-3 months and they will look a lot more muscular than the average gym rat that follows clean diet year round with 1 cheat meal a week...it is same for country guys like a bodybuilder you probably know that living in a small town surrounded by whole milk products and good ole beef and bbq chikens..they grow cause they eat and eat and eat and then train and train and train and then add hormones and lots of them into the plate.

there are few rules needed to follow even in "offseason" and they are HIGH protien, some balance in the meals (go by what you feel and the mirror) when i say some balance i mean you dont have to eat steak and curly fries with bbq souce every single meal....try to go for lean turky and bbq chiken once in a while with baked potato but in general you can eat whatever the fuck you want as long as you keep protien high and make sure the saturated fat is not sky rocketing every meal.

if you are a bodybuilder or a guy that is trying to compete...try this for 6 months you got nothing to lose...you will see that the hardest thing to do is to lose bodyfat when eating clean all the time!  it's a lot easier to lose bodyfat when you actually gain muscle and thus your bodyfat deceases due to the overall lean mass increase. the time to see single digit bodyfat% is only 14-16 weeks pre competition...otherwise you should aim for 10-13% in order to be able to grow from year to year. it dont mean you need to be a fat ass and be 16-18% like the representetive of ours ;) offseason but 10-13% is very common.. and any serious competetive bodybuilder is working this way.

it is very simple you eat clean all year long and wanna be something in the bodybuilding/fitness industry...max you will be is a  190/195lb fitness model but you will not get to be as big as us and def wont compete on the national stage. another thing you need to know is that most fitness models i know come from bodybuilding backround and before they were 190lb 6% they used to be 230pounders/10% with some npc competitions behind them.




Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dj181 on May 27, 2011, 08:40:16 PM
I know you put natural limit at 5'10" 165 6%, but what is the natural limit for a fatty @ 10%? Would it be 5'10" 180 @ 10%?
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: DK II on May 27, 2011, 08:52:36 PM
great thread
Title: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: Parker on May 27, 2011, 08:54:38 PM
Ulisses Jr
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRVFGxPdWMy21hLIuWL120MDWDv8Fee2IM3poAAuB0IPrnaXGCC57tfCmz)
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkzUQJ0dzB0wlGzNvuydwoOhJN1rHPAJZ2H2aAK7WqLvd1S9XLZg)
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: DK II on May 27, 2011, 08:57:17 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MEvj79wiUOg/TDYTlgEzmaI/AAAAAAAAGdM/GitunnZNVtQ/s1600/Ulisses+Williams+Jr4.jpg)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/pukkap/SH5ChxR3jDI/AAAAAAAAKa4/M_Ss34ItSow/ul99.jpg)

(http://hotchocolatefinder.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/71708.jpg)

Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Meso_z on May 27, 2011, 08:57:40 PM
Do steroids make you tired or give you more energy ?
Do steroids  make your joints hurt or  it make them feel better ?

What's your personal experience?

::)
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: Meso_z on May 27, 2011, 08:58:25 PM
 ::)

I think hes on steroids.

Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: Mclovin on May 27, 2011, 08:58:35 PM
Ulisses Jr is obviously all natural as he competes in MuscleMania.
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: Parker on May 27, 2011, 08:59:45 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MEvj79wiUOg/TDYTlgEzmaI/AAAAAAAAGdM/GitunnZNVtQ/s1600/Ulisses+Williams+Jr4.jpg)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/pukkap/SH5ChxR3jDI/AAAAAAAAKa4/M_Ss34ItSow/ul99.jpg)

(http://hotchocolatefinder.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/71708.jpg)


I was searching for the less, er schmoey pics
::)

I think hes on steroids.


you know the stack man...he's 5'10 185...
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: Maldoror on May 27, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
Gay as the day is long.
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: Meso_z on May 27, 2011, 09:00:39 PM
Ulisses Jr is obviously all natural as he competes in MuscleMania.
lol
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: DK II on May 27, 2011, 09:02:03 PM
I was searching for the less, er schmoey pics

you know the stack man...he's 5'10 185...

Hard to find, the guy is gay as hell.

Great build though.
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: Parker on May 27, 2011, 09:03:29 PM
Hard to find, the guy is gay as hell.

Great build though.
I've seen him on a couple "urban" shows and he was getting numbers..
Title: Stop the "Gh15 is #insert name# on something" threads.
Post by: Meso_z on May 27, 2011, 09:06:03 PM
And start by buying a membership at your local gym.

Good luck.   ::)
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: el numero uno on May 27, 2011, 09:14:34 PM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/333145506_7dea93a526.jpg)

Carring a pair of socks on your posing trunks? It looks like he's very secure.
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: abijahmaniaco on May 27, 2011, 09:34:56 PM
i haven't experienced more energy--that comes from your diet. more drive though i believe. if diet is where it needs to be recovery time from workout to workout is obviously going to be drastically improved.

you'll only be tired if you're "depleted" aka on a pre-contest stack and cutting carbs, fats, and fluids. also more prone to injury the drier you get.
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: chunkramwell on May 27, 2011, 09:41:36 PM
GH makes you tired, tren energy, deca makes joints bulletproof

Good answer.

Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: gh15 on May 27, 2011, 09:41:47 PM
GH makes you tired, tren energy, deca makes joints bulletproof

thats exactly,,

correct

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: gh15 on May 27, 2011, 09:45:26 PM
also ,,trenbolona in high doses wil make you go hyper,,you will be a talking blub ,,you will slurp while you talk ,,your second half wont understand half the shit you say ,,you will just think too fast for your mouth and well,,be high lol this is side effect of trenbolona that usualy bring to ending of relashionships if not careful,,you do need to control temper and it very possible unles you are mentaly unstable to begin with ,,the hyper thing you cant control its just super energyzed no matter what,, caugh ...well you need not to inject into vessel and its not easy because the vesseles are all over the body even lots in the butt,,so sometime you wil have it sometimes you wont depend on injection ,,its nothing serious ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: abijahmaniaco on May 27, 2011, 09:46:11 PM
Both
maybe your pct isn't what it needs to be coach. i got the hcg right this time and i feel fine. holding my gains and sex drive i would say is at the high end of normal. but still it can't be compared to on cycle. :D cycling is a part of being safe(safer) though.
Title: Re: Stop the "Gh15 is #insert name# on something" threads.
Post by: chunkramwell on May 27, 2011, 09:47:06 PM
Gh15 has been repeating himself since 2006, we're lucky he sticks around after all the bullshit.
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: chunkramwell on May 27, 2011, 09:48:42 PM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/333145506_7dea93a526.jpg)

Carring a pair of socks on your posing trunks? It looks like he's very secure.

looks like there was little testicular atrophy on his cycle
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Maddy on May 27, 2011, 09:49:01 PM
also ,,trenbolona in high doses wil make you go hyper,,you will be a talking blub ,,you will slurp while you talk ,,your second half wont understand half the shit you say ,,you will just think too fast for your mouth and well,,be high lol this is side effect of trenbolona that usualy bring to ending of relashionships if not careful,,you do need to control temper and it very possible unles you are mentaly unstable to begin with ,,the hyper thing you cant control its just super energyzed no matter what,, caugh ...well you need not to inject into vessel and its not easy because the vesseles are all over the body even lots in the butt,,so sometime you wil have it sometimes you wont depend on injection ,,its nothing serious ,,

gh15 approved

you must be OD'ing on trenbologna every time you post
Title: Re: Question for GH15 and steroid users
Post by: Noel Fuller on May 27, 2011, 09:50:33 PM
you must be OD'ing on trenbologna every time you post

Holy shit, that was good, touche
Title: Re: Stop the "Gh15 is #insert name# on something" threads.
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 27, 2011, 09:52:04 PM
I agree 100 PERCENT with BOTH posts !! I'm sure the flamers will have somethin' to say in this thread though. Lazy, uneducated fucks !
Title: Re: Stop the "Gh15 is #insert name# on something" threads.
Post by: chunkramwell on May 27, 2011, 10:03:22 PM
The two problems are human laziness and the board structure. In many cases it's easier to create a topic asking Santa for a train set than trying to search the forum. The search is barely functional.
Title: Re: Gh15, what is this guy on?
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 27, 2011, 10:35:22 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MEvj79wiUOg/TDYTlgEzmaI/AAAAAAAAGdM/GitunnZNVtQ/s1600/Ulisses+Williams+Jr4.jpg)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/pukkap/SH5ChxR3jDI/AAAAAAAAKa4/M_Ss34ItSow/ul99.jpg)

(http://hotchocolatefinder.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/71708.jpg)


I bet that respectable dose of GH is there year round
btw saw his recent pics, add 3inches to the waist and moon face and you will get him, bloofy as fuk

and his poor stats doesn't mean shit, he got very good structure.
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: pellius on May 28, 2011, 04:25:44 AM
there is no better combination for competetive bodybuiding growth than tren ace/ npp/ growth hormone/ and high doses of testosterona into the 1200 mg +  ...this is how we grow friends,,all of us! ,,we start lean you need to remember that WE START LEAN ,,if you do it start lean so all the size is lean and the surprize factor is great ,,remember you dont see no muscle under fat,,it is you being lean that allow you to see how much 5lb of muscle truly is

gh15 approved

What happened to Equipona? Now it's NPP. You never mentioned that before.
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 08:54:27 AM
too much bunk equipona for the majority ,,i cant talk about hormone that is good yet my puplis in majority cant get a hold of legit one due to it being such low quality now day ,,if you can get vet then ok if you have great cook then ok but not many do and not many know,,it is very very good hormones used by us on regular basis but! you need legit equipona,,i cant allow my puplis to use it then come back to me 10 week down the road tlel me but gh you promised all teary eye ,,so i find replacment

gh15 approved
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: Secret Stack on May 28, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
i had to look through my notes from class and found this in april 2011 notes (few weeks ago) which seems like 4 years ago with so many postings now from god...

,,they want to know the secret for LOOKIN like bodybuilder with out a very strict cazlculated diet,,nandrolona will not let you get there the way they want ,,it wont,,


gh15 approved


is nandrolona better quality today god?
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: Secret Stack on May 28, 2011, 11:47:28 AM
...also the equipona was being pushed HEAVILY not to long ago in the august through to december period of 2010, about 8 months ago. this was the equipona craze on getbig...august to december 2010, every post, every week for every one of those months.

so what you mean gh is that between that time up to now, the powder/paste has gone to bad quality compared to aug-dec '10 period?
what happened? why was it better just a few months ago?

thanks
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 01:09:27 PM
...also the equipona was being pushed HEAVILY not to long ago in the august through to december period of 2010, about 8 months ago. this was the equipona craze on getbig...august to december 2010, every post, every week for every one of those months.

so what you mean gh is that between that time up to now, the powder/paste has gone to bad quality compared to aug-dec '10 period?
what happened? why was it better just a few months ago?

thanks

nonono,,equipona is very good i keep telling this,,back then and now it is good,,but many get bunk products remember not everyone has connection to good cook ,,i had to change it becausde many got bunk and report got to me of bunk underdosed equipona i said ok took it to my attention and adapted the recomendations,,still equipoona if legit is prefered by gh15,, nppiona is much less faked much much less ,,its not pasty its poweder and it is usualy good quality

gh15 approved
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 01:12:55 PM
i had to look through my notes from class and found this in april 2011 notes (few weeks ago) which seems like 4 years ago with so many postings now from god...

is nandrolona better quality today god?

nandrolona decanoate will not get you there,,nppiona will,, the  diff in the water held and the way it go in and out make huge diff,,very similar to eq just more volume to the muscle when eq gets you more of a finish polish quality look to the phsyiqe ,,nppiona and eq are very interchangable,,mot to forget ....eq used to be injected every day or every 2 day back in the 80s and 90s,,only in 2000s it started with the stupid 300mg per cc because of the quality of the eq went down so they needed to up the dose to get same benefit and then started to put it in the blood 2 times a week and the rest history ,,in reality eq start working from the first day ,,it should be injected every couple days smaller doses and if legit you will see it within 2 week in the mirror,,but steroid boardings...decided otherwize,, ::)

gh15 approved
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: flinstones1 on May 28, 2011, 04:19:32 PM
nandrolona decanoate will not get you there,,nppiona will,, the  diff in the water held and the way it go in and out make huge diff,,very similar to eq just more volume to the muscle when eq gets you more of a finish polish quality look to the phsyiqe ,,nppiona and eq are very interchangable,,mot to forget ....eq used to be injected every day or every 2 day back in the 80s and 90s,,only in 2000s it started with the stupid 300mg per cc because of the quality of the eq went down so they needed to up the dose to get same benefit and then started to put it in the blood 2 times a week and the rest history ,,in reality eq start working from the first day ,,it should be injected every couple days smaller doses and if legit you will see it within 2 week in the mirror,,but steroid boardings...decided otherwize,, ::)

gh15 approved

oh brother.Look you know I'm a big fan gh15 but your advice is starting toget retarted. npp and deca are going to yield almost identical results in the real world. Your whole idea about achieving a certain look with some special stack makes no sense except for the TOP guys of this sport. Take the top 50 greatest physiques of all time and I guarantee you each one was built on different products. Arnold loves his dbol, Kevin loves his anapalan, Kuclo loves his insulin, Dennis Newman loved his winstrol.... you love your tren. Tbombz advice is spot on when it comes to this topic. Pick a good dose of an injectable steroid along with alot of growth hormone....maybe another anabolic if you wish , from there make up your mind if you want to gain weight or loose weight and adjust your calories.  Just use  fucking steroids and growth hormone consistantly, and alot of them.

250 pounds of lean muscle  is 250 pounds of muscle. It does not matter how you get there. npp and masteron lol no thanks
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: tbombz on May 28, 2011, 04:25:19 PM
oh brother.Look you know I'm a big fan gh15 but your advice is starting toget retarted. npp and deca are going to yield almost identical results in the real world. Your whole idea about achieving a certain look with some special stack makes no sense except for the TOP guys of this sport. Take the top 50 greatest physiques of all time and I guarantee you each one was built on different products. Arnold loves his dbol, Kevin loves his anapalan, Kuclo loves his insulin, Dennis Newman loved his winstrol.... you love your tren. Tbombz advice is spot on when it comes to this topic. Pick a good dose of an injectable steroid along with alot of growth hormone....maybe another anabolic if you wish , from there make up your mind if you want to gain weight or loose weight and adjust your calories.  Just use  fucking steroids and growth hormone consistantly, and alot of them.

250 pounds of lean muscle  is 250 pounds of muscle. It does not matter how you get there. npp and masteron lol no thanks
  ;D   gh15 has a shit load of experience... when he says something he means it..   but he tends to exaggerate things for effect... like you said for 95% of people there wont be a difference between 1000mg of steroid A vs 1000mg of steroid B...  but there are real differences between steroids... minor differences really, but noticeable.. gh15 is speaking on a super expert level, disecting roids the way a seasoned vet looking for every little minute detail...     
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: flinstones1 on May 28, 2011, 04:34:02 PM
 ;D   gh15 has a shit load of experience... when he says something he means it..   but he tends to exaggerate things for effect... like you said for 95% of people there wont be a difference between 1000mg of steroid A vs 1000mg of steroid B...  but there are real differences between steroids... minor differences really, but noticeable.. gh15 is speaking on a super expert level, disecting roids the way a seasoned vet looking for every little minute detail...      


I don't deny the fact that there is a difference between certaini steroids, large differences and responses vary between different compounds but cmon dude for 99 percent of the guys on here, there is absolutely no reason to make it this complicated. Let's take you for example. For you to gain pro you would need to gain lets say 40 pounds of lean muscle maybe less maybe more I have never seen you in person. Why would it matter if you did it on anadrol and equipoise? tren and dbol? That's my point. 240 pounds at 5 percent bf is 240 pounds at 5 percent bf. Arnold did it on dbol and primo and looked pretty good (: What we DO know is that GH is a must to be super huge and give a look that steroids alone can't give...when it comes to AAS I don't think the choice of compounds matters as much as the doses and length of time using the drugs.
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 06:05:18 PM
oh brother.Look you know I'm a big fan gh15 but your advice is starting toget retarted. npp and deca are going to yield almost identical results in the real world. Your whole idea about achieving a certain look with some special stack makes no sense except for the TOP guys of this sport. Take the top 50 greatest physiques of all time and I guarantee you each one was built on different products. Arnold loves his dbol, Kevin loves his anapalan, Kuclo loves his insulin, Dennis Newman loved his winstrol.... you love your tren. Tbombz advice is spot on when it comes to this topic. Pick a good dose of an injectable steroid along with alot of growth hormone....maybe another anabolic if you wish , from there make up your mind if you want to gain weight or loose weight and adjust your calories.  Just use  fucking steroids and growth hormone consistantly, and alot of them.

250 pounds of lean muscle  is 250 pounds of muscle. It does not matter how you get there. npp and masteron lol no thanks

thats wher eyou are wrong friend,,i told you i woudnt write something unless it was the way it is ,,npp is our preferable method of using nandrolona,,we want it in and out we want lots of of it but in and out ,,we dont want it in the blood for long time and we want fast and solid yes fast and solid results in the fastest possible time on an already existtant foundation ,,nppiona unlike nandrolona decanoate does not bloat you ,, it doesnt hav time to live in your blood long enough to cause the sides,,you only get the benefits and the muscle filles with good ole thicknes from within and quite fast ,,there is big diff between nppiona and nandrolona decanoate,,and! 250lb of muscle is not same as other 250 lb of muscle,, whhy?

look at dorian 250 and at philsulina 250 ...is it the same? look at any fella now day jason huh lol look at his 270 lb of muscle lol comparing to ron 270lb of muscle ...is it even remotely the same? no it is not,,

bodybuild is all in how small your waste is in compatison to your delts ,,how wide you are how good your v taper is ,,how well your muscle structure flow,,how good your symety and proportion is ,,and how muscular you are over all as in thickness size and most importanto over all condition ! 250 is not 250 ,,it can be but it is highly highly depend on the products you use HIGHLY DEPENDANABLE

gh15 approved
Title: Re: in regarding to pm floods
Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 06:09:43 PM

I don't deny the fact that there is a difference between certaini steroids, large differences and responses vary between different compounds but cmon dude for 99 percent of the guys on here, there is absolutely no reason to make it this complicated. Let's take you for example. For you to gain pro you would need to gain lets say 40 pounds of lean muscle maybe less maybe more I have never seen you in person. Why would it matter if you did it on anadrol and equipoise? tren and dbol? That's my point. 240 pounds at 5 percent bf is 240 pounds at 5 percent bf. Arnold did it on dbol and primo and looked pretty good (: What we DO know is that GH is a must to be super huge and give a look that steroids alone can't give...when it comes to AAS I don't think the choice of compounds matters as much as the doses and length of time using the drugs.

choices of compound matter highly !!! ,,this is what i try to get in your head all those years,,compound matters the purity the type and the dose ofcourse,,but the product matter big time!,, go look at bodybuild that is on testosterona nppiona gh and trenbolona ace....then go look at bodybuild who is only on testosterona and dianabolona ....you will see big difference in quality ,,big BIG diff ,,even with out the gh ...trenbolona  and nppiona with high doses testosterona if lean enough to begin with create MONSTERS,,THIS IS OUR SECRET I KEEP TLELIN YOU THIS ,,THERE ARE GURUS IN THE CULT THAT SIT HOME RIGHT NOW ,,RIGHT THIS SECOND AND READ WHAT I WRITE HERE AND EATING THEIR FINGERNAILS THEY ARE SO MAD THEY WANT TO HIT THE COMPUTER SCREEN ,,WHY? BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER THEIR MONEY MAKING ADVICE,, YOU KNOW IT YOU GET FAR YOU DONT KNOW IT YOU END LIKE THE MANY GYM RATS THAT SIT ON 750 MG OF TESTOSTERONA A WEEK AROUND GOOD OLE AMERICANA AND ALWAYS SAY THEY WILL COMPETE BUT NEVER DO

gh15 approved
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on May 28, 2011, 06:26:53 PM
I got a friend (seriously it's not for me) looking to buy some anavar.  Could you give me some typical prices per pill and dosages.

Do you know anything about "Tsunami" brand? I've never heard of it and figured it was probably some prohormone knock-off.

Also what about drugs coming out of Florida?  his source gets drugs from down there and I don't know about Floridian sources. Are there any trusty cooks down there?

thanks in advance

       -Kurt Cobain.

1. no,,im not an elf

2. the source talked about is operating in timly manner but used to sell bunk gear in the past every single elf who work with him send report of fake or bunk gear ,,tsunami line never tried by my elfs because they black listed him

3.ther are good  number of good elfs all around americana and outside americana

gh15 approved

Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: abijahmaniaco on May 31, 2011, 08:14:49 PM
ok gh15 i'm considering what to do for my third cycle:

i'm sitting at 204lbs with a height of 5'11".
i'm looking to gain as much quality mass as possible.

i was interested in tren acetate, testosterone (enanthate or cypionate), and anadrol50.

should i instead go with your prescription of tren, test, and nandrolone phenylpropionate?
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: asbrus on May 31, 2011, 08:18:48 PM
too much bunk equipona for the majority ,,i cant talk about hormone that is good yet my puplis in majority cant get a hold of legit one due to it being such low quality now day ,,if you can get vet then ok if you have great cook then ok but not many do and not many know,,it is very very good hormones used by us on regular basis but! you need legit equipona,,i cant allow my puplis to use it then come back to me 10 week down the road tlel me but gh you promised all teary eye ,,so i find replacment

gh15 approved


GH15 H0W MUCH M0NEY PER YEAR D0 T0P PR0S SPENT 0N DRUG USE?
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: chaos on May 31, 2011, 08:21:15 PM

GH15 H0W MUCH M0NEY PER YEAR D0 T0P PR0S SPENT 0N DRUG USE?
Good question Assbruise, never been asked before.
Title: Re: PM Questions Answered
Post by: gh15 on May 31, 2011, 09:09:31 PM

GH15 H0W MUCH M0NEY PER YEAR D0 T0P PR0S SPENT 0N DRUG USE?

this is how it go ,,so you fellas get the picture,,


a fella who end up going to national to place top 15 ,,usualy 10-15 lol  they usualy spend 4 year private university tuition on hormones,,some get up to 150 k  and FAIL to win a pro card,,fail to even place well in top 10 nationals,,few of them make it 5-10 but in most cases they go nationals put in 150k and usualy get liver cancer or kidny problems with never becoming profesionals ,,thos also are the ones with guts from here to china and back and really they look good in gym but not on stage



a fella who is profesional ,,if sponsored get everything he needs money wize to pay for hormone,,it can go up to 10s of thousand dollars for show,,some go by spending 5-10k  but they are not the typical winners or the one who make damage,,

over al profesional bodybuild live on many drugs,,it is constant usage of drugs and all you can eat buffet ,,it runs in the 10s of thousands every year,,



in other words for all the pupikls to understand and for all the new pupils who just arrived from other boardings to understand ...
what you pay ..your 400 dolaros orders,,dont make no pros lol it make locals,,yes you can order 400 dolaros but thats if you have in your arsenal other products ,, and also those who buy smal buy a lot,, you wont find the profesiona who just buy 300 dolaros worth of product once every few months,, it is consstancy and buying all the time,,all the time

gh15 approved