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Title: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 03:52:01 PM
I have read it is somewhere at 12%...

What is the science behind it if true and what is the truth if it is not true?
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 17, 2011, 03:57:08 PM
I have read it is somewhere at 12%...

What is the science behind it if true and what is the truth if it is not true?

I'm curious....what's the payoff with you?

You come here every day with these banal questions and this "woe is me" attitude.....what do you get out of it?
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 03:59:10 PM
I'm curious....what's the payoff with you?

You come here every day with these banal questions and this "woe is me" attitude.....what do you get out of it?

I have no idea what you mean?  ???

What's the pay off for anything?

Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: jaejonna on May 17, 2011, 04:00:04 PM
I agree with Groink plus I may add that there is a bigger proportion of self-pity indulging twinks running around as of late ...
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 04:01:35 PM
I agree with Groink plus I may add that there is a bigger proportion of self-pity indulging twinks running around as of late ...

So neither of you can answer my question? ???

That's disappointing... :(
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: tendonitis on May 17, 2011, 04:11:03 PM
guys, please don't encourage him.  some of us are counting down the days until his departure
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 04:12:36 PM
guys, please don't encourage him.  some of us are counting down the days until his departure

You must really care about me if I get under your skin so much?  ???

Just ignore me...I am not that important.  :)
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: dyslexic on May 17, 2011, 04:21:20 PM
Dude, bodyfat is bodyfat. Who wants to run around at 12% with no muscle?

I'd rather have 8-10% and be a natty as long as my muscles were as fully developed as possible.

If you were running T, then how much and for what reason? Competition? HRT? Just wanna be stupid like everyone else?


You could be a big fat slob on tons of T.

I don't get the damn ambiguity in the fucked up question. Think again. K?
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 04:24:32 PM
Dude, bodyfat is bodyfat. Who wants to run around at 12% with no muscle?

I'd rather have 8-10% and be a natty as long as my muscles were as fully developed as possible.

If you were running T, then how much and for what reason? Competition? HRT? Just wanna be stupid like everyone else?


You could be a big fat slob on tons of T.

I don't get the damn ambiguity in the fucked up question. Think again. K?

Well, I would like to get down to 10% or thereabouts and am slowly working towards that goal. It was just a general question, obviously less fat is better.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 17, 2011, 04:41:46 PM
You must really care about me if I get under your skin so much?  ???

Just ignore me...I am not that important.  :)

Well that's what you're OBVIOUSLY trying to do, get under people's skin.

You're a self-proclaimed smart guy...you  know the queries you make are assinine, and your sad-sack persona is quite intentional ......which goes back to my original question.

What's the point?
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
what is the optimal bf% percentage for maximal amount of dumb threads started?



hey Deicide, what is your BF%?
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 04:44:37 PM
seriously Deicide

I abhor your presence on this forum
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 04:47:54 PM
Well that's what you're OBVIOUSLY trying to do, get under people's skin.

You're a self-proclaimed smart guy...you  know the queries you make are assinine, and your sad-sack persona is quite intentional ......which goes back to my original question.

What's the point?

I actually have never referred to myself as smart, that is a designation other people constantly give me. In fact, I deny it and claim only average intelligence.

Why would my sad-sack persona be intentional? I am not happy with my life, I have terrible genetics and am generally a failure with no redeeming attributes whatsoever. It is logical then that this is the way I am.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 04:49:03 PM
seriously Deicide

I abhor your presence on this forum

That's sad to hear. I have nothing against you. :)

Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 04:51:16 PM
That's sad to hear. I have nothing against you. :)



your posting style of making a ton of threads a day make you unlikeable

start less threads and you'll be more likeable
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 04:52:59 PM
your posting style of making a ton of threads a day make you unlikeable

start less threads and you'll be more likeable

Didn't you get L.A. Noire by now? ???
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 04:54:11 PM
Didn't you get L.A. Noire by now? ???

don't change the subject
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 04:57:47 PM
don't change the subject

Well, no doubt I will disappear for a long while again some time in the future, so don't worry. :)
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 05:00:09 PM
Well, no doubt I will disappear for a long while again some time in the future, so don't worry. :)


it really is a good game


THUMBS UP
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Capitulation on May 17, 2011, 05:01:20 PM
Just stop already with the constant self pity threads - we get it, your a loser with shit genetics. Its like you think the more you accept your own lack of potential the more you need to post about it, as if this is some kind of psychotherapy session. I hate self-pitying attention seeking losers like you. Change ur ways!
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 05:01:45 PM

it really is a good game


THUMBS UP

Do you mind if I ask what makes it so good? Lots of people are raving about it: what's its attraction exactly? ???
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 05:02:34 PM
Just stop already with the constant self pity threads - we get it, your a loser with shit genetics. Its like you think the more you accept your own lack of potential the more you need to post about it, as if this is some kind of psychotherapy session. I hate self-pitying attention seeking losers like you. Change ur ways!

Would you assist me in murdering me then? ???
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Rami on May 17, 2011, 05:02:58 PM
I think it was between 6-12% or if it was 11, what I remember was that you can be quite low with no problem.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Capitulation on May 17, 2011, 05:06:39 PM
Would you assist me in murdering me then? ???

You don't need to be murdered, just wake up and realise nobody likes that guy who is constantly putting himself down, i find these types of individuals really enjoy the pity and attention they get. However, pity only lasts so long until people lose interest.

Man the fuck up, stop posting useless shit and stop with all the innocent replies - you know ur fucking around with most of these threads anyway so just get it that people find it kinda of boring after awhile.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 05:09:31 PM
You don't need to be murdered, just wake up and realise nobody likes that guy who is constantly putting himself down, i find these types of individuals really enjoy the pity and attention they get. However, pity only lasts so long until people lose interest.

Man the fuck up, stop posting useless shit and stop with all the innocent replies - you know ur fucking around with most of these threads anyway so just get it that people find it kinda of boring after awhile.

What exactly is posted on getbig that is not useless? ???
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Fury on May 17, 2011, 05:19:25 PM
Well that's what you're OBVIOUSLY trying to do, get under people's skin.

You're a self-proclaimed smart guy...you  know the queries you make are assinine, and your sad-sack persona is quite intentional ......which goes back to my original question.

What's the point?

He doesn't get enough attention in real life so he comes here for validation.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: BB on May 17, 2011, 05:22:12 PM
Body fat % for optimal testosterone production? sheeet, you should be asking what's optimal Dianabol % for maximal testosterone. Even if there was an optimal bf % for such a thing, it would mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. At the the end of the day the extra few nanograms of test one would get from doing everything right would be nothing, a drop of water into the ocean.

That being said Duchaine and others pondered that 10-12% was the best range for most folks. You're lean enough to look good, You'll feel healthy for your big lifts and in general life, and if you do want to diet down a bit, you'd be able to drop a few % points without killing yourself.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 05:45:34 PM
He doesn't get enough attention in real life so he comes here for validation.

Exactly like you Nicholas.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 05:59:17 PM
seriously dude

you are the worst type of troll who does this passive aggressive "how am I troll" thing

seriously, piss off
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 06:00:26 PM
seriously dude

you are the worst type of troll who does this passive aggressive "how am I troll" thing

seriously, piss off

I still like you Johnny. :)
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: DK II on May 17, 2011, 06:29:25 PM
I have read it is somewhere at 12%...

What is the science behind it if true and what is the truth if it is not true?
JUST DO FUCKING STEROIDS AND GET OVER IT.


Seriously, you worry too much about all this bullshit, just do a light cycle of testosterone with some clen or ECA.

You will feel much better, you will look much better and stop overanalyzing everything.

Sometimes it's really healthier to go on steroids, your case is one.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 06:31:17 PM
JUST DO FUCKING STEROIDS AND GET OVER IT.


Seriously, you worry too much about all this bullshit, just do a light cycle of testosterone with some clen or ECA.

You will feel much better, you will look much better and stop overanalyzing everything.

Sometimes it's really healthier to go on steroids, your case is one.

So einfach ist es nicht.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: chaos on May 17, 2011, 06:34:16 PM
He doesn't get enough attention in real life so he comes here for validation.
Real.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: DK II on May 17, 2011, 06:36:19 PM
So einfach ist es nicht.

Ach meinst du?

Und wieso nicht?
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 06:37:44 PM
Ach meinst du?

Und wieso nicht?

Woher bekomme ich Stoff einfach so? Naechsten Monat mach ich Urlaub, da koennte ich keinen Stoff mitnehmen, usw usf....
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 06:38:54 PM
So einfach ist es nicht.

SEE!!!-----he does this foreign language thing as well as a means to divert attention from the fact he starts shitty threads


This is all apart of the "DEICIDE VORTEX"
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 06:39:54 PM
SEE!!!-----he does this foreign language thing as well as a means to divert attention from the fact he starts shitty threads


This is all apart of the "DEICIDE VORTEX"

Deicide Vortex; that's pretty catchy... ;D
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: DK II on May 17, 2011, 06:41:30 PM
Woher bekomme ich Stoff einfach so? Naechsten Monat mach ich Urlaub, da koennte ich keinen Stoff mitnehmen, usw usf....

1. Das sollte das geringste Problem sein.
2. Urlaub wo? Einfach mitnehmen, meinst du, dich knackt einer weg, wenn du eine Ampulle Test mitnimmst?? Eine Packung Dianabol umgefuellt in eine Multivitaminpackung schnallt eh keiner.

Innerhalb von Europa ist es eh kein Problem, in Asien auch nicht, eventuell in den USA. Dann faengst du halt einfach NACH deinem Urlaub an.

Easy.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: DK II on May 17, 2011, 06:42:33 PM
SEE!!!-----he does this foreign language thing as well as a means to divert attention from the fact he starts shitty threads


This is all apart of the "DEICIDE VORTEX"

yeah that "foreign language thing" us totally annoying.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: XFACTOR on May 17, 2011, 06:45:02 PM
You guys are such Cyber bullies. 
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: DK II on May 17, 2011, 06:46:05 PM
You guys are such Cyber bullies. 
:o :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 06:47:11 PM
Deicide Vortex; that's pretty catchy... ;D

it's catchy like a rash
1)you start a shitty thread where you talk about how shitty you are
2)people hate these threads and tell you how much we hate you
3) you do that passive aggressive thing where you "understand" then you bring up something off subject to divert the subject
4) then some foreiner posts in the thread
5) then you respond in that foreingers native language

this is the Deicide vortex


seriously, I abhor your existence on this forum.....and yes, I see the irony of me posting about what makes up your vortex and then falling in to your vortex
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Deicide on May 17, 2011, 06:50:01 PM
it's catchy like a rash
1)you start a shitty thread where you talk about how shitty you are
2)people hate these threads and tell you how much we hate you
3) you do that passive aggressive thing where you "understand" then you bring up something off subject to divert the subject
4) then some foreiner posts in the thread
5) then you respond in that foreingers native language

this is the Deicide vortex


seriously, I abhor your existence on this forum.....and yes, I see the irony of me posting about what makes up your vortex and then falling in to your vortex

Well, at least L.A Noire is good, gotta count for something, right?
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 17, 2011, 07:37:17 PM
seriously dude

you are the worst type of troll who does this passive aggressive "how am I troll" thing

seriously, piss off

LOL....I know. he does the whole  "what do you mean??" ......innocent act.

what "we mean" is you come here every single day and ask the same dumbass questions over and over and over, and whine about your "horrible genetics"....please stop with the "who...me?' bullshit , you know exactly what we are talking about
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 07:45:21 PM
Well, at least L.A Noire is good, gotta count for something, right?


I'm not falling for your vortex anymore

seriously, fuck off and die




what "we mean" is you come here every single day and ask the same dumbass questions over and over and over, and whine about your "horrible genetics"....please stop with the "who...me?' bullshit , you know exactly what we are talking about

it's like he is doing some sort of Andy Kaufman type comedy bit
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: chaos on May 17, 2011, 07:46:25 PM

I'm not falling for your vortex anymore

seriously, fuck off and die
Did you get laid while you were gone Johnny? You seem high strung?           
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 07:47:54 PM
Did you get laid while you were gone Johnny?       

not at all

Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: chaos on May 17, 2011, 07:52:56 PM
not at all


Ouch, bummer dude.
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 07:58:03 PM
Ouch, bummer dude.

I don't even want to have sex with me
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: chaos on May 17, 2011, 07:59:00 PM
I don't even want to have sex with me
:o

Have you sought therapy for this?
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: johnnynoname on May 17, 2011, 08:00:40 PM
:o

Have you sought therapy for this?

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Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: chaos on May 17, 2011, 08:09:40 PM
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;D
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: dyslexic on May 17, 2011, 09:26:24 PM
I sense Martyrdom...
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: DK II on May 18, 2011, 12:43:33 AM
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Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 18, 2011, 02:02:39 AM
I have read it is somewhere at 12%...

What is the science behind it if true and what is the truth if it is not true?

No there is no set optimum that applies to everyone on planet earth
Obviously there are human limitaiins however
I watched a documentary the other day with ... A guy who could swim under Water for 9 mins ...
A woman who since childhood has been living on 3 packets of crisps a day and looks quite normal.
A man who sswam in the north pole glaciers
... So you see there are anomalies out there.
Apply that to your strength question
The majority of people who come on here shouting bullshit or drugs on others achievements are just
A. Narrow minded jealous if I didn't make x gains no one can
B. Failures
C. Ignorant
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: DK II on May 18, 2011, 02:12:41 AM
No there is no set optimum that applies to everyone on planet earth
Obviously there are human limitaiins however
I watched a documentary the other day with ... A guy who could swim under Water for 9 mins ...
A woman who since childhood has been living on 3 packets of crisps a day and looks quite normal.
A man who sswam in the north pole glaciers
... So you see there are anomalies out there.
Apply that to your strength question
The majority of people who come on here shouting bullshit or drugs on others achievements are just
A. Narrow minded jealous if I didn't make x gains no one can
B. Failures
C. Ignorant

And then there are the people that have to lie about their drug use...  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: _bruce_ on May 18, 2011, 02:42:23 AM
For your health and well being - a slight hint of a six pack... this percentage is different for everyone.

Title: Re: Is there an optimal bf% for maximum natural testosterone production?
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 18, 2011, 05:56:55 AM
I have read it is somewhere at 12%...

What is the science behind it if true and what is the truth if it is not true?
I think it's a very interesting question. High % gives more oestrogene cause of the peripheral fat. To low limits test production and raises cortisol.