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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mesmorph78 on May 22, 2011, 05:15:52 AM
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When phils width or lack of is brought up his arm fetish fans keep sayin keep saying hes been hated on ... Ok
Answer this question who in the top 10 is Phil wider than
Should mr o be the narrowest man on stage....?
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Narrow as a rail.. :'(
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your mom is wider than Philsulin.
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When phils width or lack of is brought up his arm fetish fans keep sayin keep saying hes been hated on ... Ok
Answer this question who in the top 10 is Phil wider than
Should mr o be the narrowest man on stage....?
Yet you're the same guy who claims Shawn Ray should have beaten Dorian Yates , despite Shawn being among the narrowest guys on-stage , don't be a hypocrite.
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Yet you're the same guy who claims Shawn Ray should have beaten Dorian Yates , despite Shawn being among the narrowest guys on-stage , don't be a hypocrite.
Wsup Nd
Can you answer the specific questions I asked
In real life it wouldn't surprise me if at his peak shawn was wider than Heath
Plus shawn had no missing bodyparts... And is widely considered to hVe the best physique of all time
No comparison
Now let's not derail the thread...
Answer the following
Who on the mr o stage is Phil wider than
And should one of the narrowest men on the o stage win the sandow in your opinion
Thanks
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Philsulin Heathbar looks terrible. I'm sorry. I mean, just looks at how out of proportion he his for christ sake ! Look at some of his pics standin' next to average people ? Hell, Wiggs put it best. Jay " The Fridge " Cutler standin' sideways is still wider than Philsulin Heathbar !
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If Phil's width was going to be a problem it would have been one before he finished 2nd in the Arnold and the Olympia.
The judges clearly aren't going to penalize him for it.
And I'd take Phil's width problem over Jay's 46 inch waist problem anyday.
Phil and Jay both are benefitting from competing in a very weak field.
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wow jay actually looked pretty good there
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If Phil's width was going to be a problem it would have been one before he finished 2nd in the Arnold and the Olympia.
The judges clearly aren't going to penalize him for it.
And I'd take Phil's width problem over Jay's 46 inch waist problem anyday.
Phil and Jay both are benefitting from competing in a very weak field.
Good answer... Should Phil beat an on Kai dexter rockel?
Do you think gets a free pass because of his arms?
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Wsup Nd
Can you answer the specific questions I asked
In real life it wouldn't surprise me if at his peak shawn was wider than Heath
Plus shawn had no missing bodyparts... And is widely considered to hVe the best physique of all time
No comparison
Now let's not derail the thread...
Answer the following
Who on the mr o stage is Phil wider than
And should one of the narrowest men on the o stage win the sandow in your opinion
Thanks
No derailing the thread , don't be a hypocrite , Shawn was among the narrowest guys on-stage and yet you claim he should be Mr Olympia.
I doubt Shawn was wider than Phil especially considering he's shorter it may ' appear ' so in pictures but you can't say unless you seen them side-by-side
Should the narrowest guy on-stage be Mr Olympia? that all depends on his competition , if having narrow clavicles are Phil's only flaw than sure because the guy pretty much has it all
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wow jay actually looked pretty good there
And a tiny bit wider than Heath indeed..
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All I care is who looks best on stage and sells in mags.
Phil has proportion, muscle shape, a combination of size and conditioning tough to beat thats why he gets top spots in each contest he enters.
If you fairys fantasize being wrapped around by a "wide" muscleman and feeling his "protection" oh well..its none of my business. :-\ :-X
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All I care is who looks best on stage and sells in mags.
Phil has proportion, muscle shape, a combination of size and conditioning tough to beat thats why he gets top spots in each contest he enters.
If you fairys fantasize being wrapped around by a "wide" muscleman and feeling his "protection" oh well..its none of my business. :-\ :-X
What weird ideas, MZ..
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All I care is who looks best on stage and sells in mags.
Phil has proportion, muscle shape, a combination of size and conditioning tough to beat thats why he gets top spots in each contest he enters.
If you fairys fantasize being wrapped around by a "wide" muscleman and feeling his "protection" oh well..its none of my business. :-\ :-X
I'm willing to guarantee if his arms didn't look as big as the do against his torso you wouldn't say that.
No one is fantasising about anything part and parcel of a pro bber is width point blank.
If Phil did t have those arms we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now
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The Mr. O is won from the back, and Phil has the best back. Hope this helps.
And this whole width thing is a joke. Dexter is way narrower than Phil and has won the O.
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Good answer... Should Phil beat an on Kai dexter rockel?
Do you think gets a free pass because of his arms?
Its not just his arms....Phil has back detail like no other, has great quads and hams and delts, good traps, good calves, good abs, okay chest...it's the way he is put together---his flow, so to speak...yeah, he has some great arms, but it you lok at him beyond that, he is well put together...remember Mike Mattarazzo had "great arms" (I didn't consider them great) and calves, but once you take those away, he had a very mediocre physique.
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I'm willing to guarantee if his arms didn't look as big as the do against his torso you wouldn't say that.
No one is fantasising about anything part and parcel of a pro bber is width point blank.
If Phil did t have those arms we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now
No need to hate him because he has better arms than you, dont you think?
You seem obsessed with Heaths width. Give him a break
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Its not just his arms....Phil has back detail like no other, has great quads and hams and delts, good traps, good calves, good abs, okay chest...it's the way he is put together---his flow, so to speak...yeah, he has some great arms, but it you lok at him beyond that, he is well put together...remember Mike Mattarazzo had "great arms" (I didn't consider them great) and calves, but once you take those away, he had a very mediocre physique.
Never saw the big deal about matzos arms big but... Not much detail no peak... Overatted
So you'd be ok with the possibly narrowest man on stage winning the sandow?
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I was just visiting your mom, no need to spy on me!
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No need to hate him because he has better arms than you, dont you think?
You seem obsessed with Heaths width. Give him a break
Naw not at all I don't hate Heath at all... Aside from the width I think he would make a great mr o very well spoken
What I hate is the fact that he does get a free pass because his standout body part is arms... Which is a very beach body mentally.. I've seen pros in real life with huge arms but it's the WIDTH that sets them apart from everyone else... Try and visualise Phil arms scaled back but has huge pecs instead of arms
Would he be the gift then
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I was just visiting your mom, no need to spy on me!
;D
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LMAO. I think that's Pattaya Beach Thailand.
He's probably riding over to fuck some ladyboys right now.
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Good answer... Should Phil beat an on Kai dexter rockel?
Do you think gets a free pass because of his arms?
No I don't think Phil should beat Kai or Dexter when they are on. They have a muscle quality that Phil simply doesn't have.
Phil beats Rockell badly from the rear so yes, he does beat him.
Phil has benefitted greatly from having great arms. But he also has great shape and flow to his physique. He's also very maketable.
In the pathetic field competing today, Phil clearly has what it takes to be Mr. Olympia. In the 90s he's be lucky to make the posedown.
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Naw not at all I don't hate Heath at all... Aside from the width I think he would make a great mr o very well spoken
What I hate is the fact that he does get a free pass because his standout body part is arms... Which is a very beach body mentally.. I've seen pros in real life with huge arms but it's the WIDTH that sets them apart from everyone else... Try and visualise Phil arms scaled back but has huge pecs instead of arms
Would he be the gift then
No he gets a ' free pass ' because his only real flaw is his width or lack thereof for all intents & purposes he's very complete and shows great conditioning
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what did freeman say to him
"you cant build a 8 story house on a 4 story frame", before getting his ass(freeman) kicked at the O
didnt matter then
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No I don't think Phil should beat Kai or Dexter when they are on. They have a muscle quality that Phil simply doesn't have.
Phil beats Rockell badly from the rear so yes, he does beat him.
Phil has benefitted greatly from having great arms. But he also has great shape and flow to his physique. He's also very maketable.
In the pathetic field competing today, Phil clearly has what it takes to be Mr. Olympia. In the 90s he's be lucky to make the posedown.
good answer I do agree phll has really good muscle shape for sure and is marketable very well spoken
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No he gets a ' free pass ' because his only real flaw is his width or lack thereof for all intents & purposes he's very complete and shows great conditioning
lacking pecs too, for his width waist is not the narrowest
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lacking pecs too, for his width waist is not the narrowest
His pec's are lacking what? ??? and his waist has to be the narrowest? Cutler's waist is the biggest yet he manages to keep winning
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If any of you go to the Mr. O this year start a "Philsulin" chant.
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His pec's are lacking what? ??? and his waist has to be the narrowest? Cutler's waist is the biggest yet he manages to keep winning
narrow guy you'd assume he would have a narrow waist, but that's not the case his waist isn't horrendous but it could be a tad narrwer (nit picking)
true culter has a wide waist but hes also super wiiiide ... and phil has a prettier physique but when you stand them both the width and muscle density and maturity difference really sticks out
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Never saw the big deal about matzos arms big but... Not much detail no peak... Overatted
So you'd be ok with the possibly narrowest man on stage winning the sandow?
Yeah, Mike's arms weren't impressive to me either---they lacked detail...
As far as Phil winning, I'd be okay...as long as Branch doesn't win...
Eve back in 94, I would have been okay if Shawn Rat won...
Fact of the matter is, Kai and Phil are about the best there is right now, and that is pathetic...the quality of today's pros seriously sucks ass, and Bob Chick knows it...
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Answer this question who in the top 10 is Phil wider than
Branch Warren ,now STFU and go suck a dick.
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LMAO. I think that's Pattaya Beach Thailand.
He's probably riding over to fuck some ladyboys right now.
Are you sure that he's not your bootie call?
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Yeah, Mike's arms weren't impressive to me either---they lacked detail...
As far as Phil winning, I'd be okay...as long as Branch doesn't win...
Eve back in 94, I would have been okay if Shawn Rat won...
Fact of the matter is, Kai and Phil are about the best there is right now, and that is pathetic...the quality of today's pros seriously sucks ass, and Bob Chick knows it...
Agree about mikes arms centopani arms are more impressive
People says phils arms are bloofy I don't agree contest shape his arms are crazy separated
I think dex at his best is better than Phil also victor... But as it looks now it's between Kai Phil and Jay
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He could hide behind a flag pole
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heath is all brachioradialis
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His clavicles are not wide but he has built his delts up to such a degree that he is not the narrowest man on stage (and he has no other flaws)-hence the phrase 'bodybuilding':
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What's weird about Phil's physique is that he is so narrow it screws up his FDB. I can't think of anyone else who has ever had that problem. Proportionate to his frame (height), he's the narrowest guy in IFBB history.
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That's in Patong, Phuket Thailand.
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The Mr. O is won from the back, and Phil has the best back. Hope this helps.
And this whole width thing is a joke. Dexter is way narrower than Phil and has won the O.
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synthol
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And a tiny bit wider than Heath indeed..
Yeah just a little bit.
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ever since flex wheeler, it should be clear that shoulder widht matters fuck all.
its about how much meat is on the skeleton.and phils shoulders are enourmous, they look bigger than levrones to me.
THIS^^^
Also meso78 saying Heath gets a free pass just shows how much he does not know how an IFBB contest is judged, every judge on this planet puts Heath as the deserving winner, you want to show them how it's done, there is no free pass, he is the clear winner hands down.
Heath has the best arms in the Ifbb, he has the best shoulders, the best hams, the best back next to Kai and even then it's close between them 2 on back. he has the most of everything and has the best conditioning. On top of all that he is the most separated bodybuilder on the planet.
He is wider then Dex, wider then Branch, and just as wide as half the field, look at the pics, he is wide enough, clavicle may be narrow but his enormous shoulder width more then makes up for it.
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THIS^^^
Also meso78 saying Heath gets a free pass just shows how much he does not know how an IFBB contest is judged, every judge on this planet puts Heath as the deserving winner, you want to show them how it's done, there is no free pass, he is the clear winner hands down.
Heath has the best arms in the Ifbb, he has the best shoulders, the best hams, the best back next to Kai and even then it's close between them 2 on back. he has the most of everything and has the best conditioning. On top of all that he is the most separated bodybuilder on the planet.
He is wider then Dex, wider then Branch, and just as wide as half the field, look at the pics, he is wide enough, clavicle may be narrow but his enormous shoulder width more then makes up for it.
No, levrone looks better than heath, and his shoulders are bigger, even his chest.
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No, levrone looks better than heath, and his shoulders are bigger, even his chest.
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I will give Levrone the front but Heath kills him from the back
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I will give Levrone the front but Heath kills him from the back
Phils physique just looks so odd in those pics. Something is not right. Looks so unbalanced.
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Bullshit!
I have seen Both Jay and Phil in person the same day, Cutlers width owns Phil
You put Phil today up against Cutlers 2009 Fridge Olympia and Phil would place 3rd
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jays waist also "owns" phils by quite the margin.
and that levrone comparo.nono thats not how it goes.
the 2 must stand next to eachother on 1 pic.
you cannot compare 2 pics.
And he forgot to compare back shots :)
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ppl are too nostalgic.
i like levrone alot myself, but the reality is the best levrone vs the best phil heath would get murdered any time.
heath is taking mass on frame to a whole new level of conditioning and size, he grows back,forth and diagonal,its insane.
It is insane big time. The more one looks at Phil the more you realize how freaky his muscles are.
Bodybuilding to me is about looking huge while taking up very little volume. Phil for the volume he takes up he gives the illusion of being 3 times bigger and that is what bodybuilding is. For example Kai out weighed him by over 20lb yet Phil looked just as big as Kai on stage.
Phil looks good from every angle and he comes in full in every muscle group
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ppl are too nostalgic.
i like levrone alot myself, but the reality is the best levrone vs the best phil heath would get murdered any time.
heath is taking mass on frame to a whole new level of conditioning and size, he grows back,forth and diagonal,its insane.
phil doesn't grow though, he's looked exactly the same for the last three years
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The wider dudes have a wider waist.
It's all about trade offs. There aren't many Colemans out there, maybe one. I think his name was Coleman.
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Branch Warren ,now STFU and go suck a dick.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2314_ICSKWJIBBL.jpg)
This dick redefines the term "smashed bag of assholes".
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Bullshit!
I have seen Both Jay and Phil in person the same day, Cutlers width owns Phil
You put Phil today up against Cutlers 2009 Fridge Olympia and Phil would place 3rd
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He beat Dex with a quad shot in 2009. His back was still a mess. What kind of bullshit is that at the MrO? 2009 Jay can't beat 2012 Kai or Phil, if the show is judged correctly, but we are dealing with the IFBB.
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Holy shit Meso you'd wanna cut that little string off the back of your head it doesn't look cool
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Why do you even care, this is fucking bodybuilding we're talking about not Sev's book release FFS!
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Who cares how wide he is. His physique has a great flow to it and is the most pleasing to the eye. Bodybuilding isn't a width contest.
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Who cares how wide he is. His physique has a great flow to it and is the most pleasing to the eye. Bodybuilding isn't a width contest.
Exactly and he is better then everyone else at it, he is the best
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Why do you even care, this is fucking bodybuilding we're talking about not Sev's book release FFS!
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i dont like the physiques of today. they look fake and all drugs.
a bertil fox and sergio oliva looked so much more powerful and better than guys like headt
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EVERYTHING IS WIDER THAN HEATH! That should be a Getbig shirt :D