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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: cptwatson on May 28, 2011, 11:44:24 AM
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I need help with building my chest. I like doing incline bench presses, but hate doing flat bench. For some reason, I have a fear of dropping the bar on my chest on the flat bench, but do not have this fear with the incline. Sounds crazy? Has anyone else ever felt this way? How did you overcome this? Thanks - David
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Use a cage and set the safetys, as you get more comfortable with the movemment lower the safetys until the bar touches your chest.
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At the very least do flat bench or flat dumbbell press with light-ass weight, since you're scared. Better to do something than nothing.
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I really think flat dumbbell presses are superior to the bar. Just go low and don't do half reps.
The way the pecs function during the bench is to bring your humerus bone to the center line of your sternum. So dumbbell presses moves your humerus bone wide then at the finish brings the arms together. It's a superior chest movement compared to the bar where your hands are fixed on the bar.
Another solution if you want to flat bar is what was mentioned. Bench in a cage with the safety bars set. You could find a setting where you can touch the chest with the bar. If you fail just take it a little lower and let the bar hit the safety bars.
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you sound like a beginner..if so,just use a lightish weight for 3-4 sets of 10-12 until form and confidence is gained.
If you`re not a newbie,then this pastime is probably not for you.
You don`t have to do benches to build a good chest,but you can`t be afraid of weight........healthy respect for poundage yes,fear,no!!
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I need help with building my chest. I like doing incline bench presses, but hate doing flat bench. For some reason, I have a fear of dropping the bar on my chest on the flat bench, but do not have this fear with the incline. Sounds crazy? Has anyone else ever felt this way? How did you overcome this? Thanks - David
Just use the smith machine...
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Okay, a stupid question, may I ask: Why is it that doing incline bench presses are easier that doing flat bench presses? Or maybe it is just me....
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might just be the way your body is,,, i much prefer inclines, i will never flat bench again, for my structure it just kills my shoulders, i wish i never performed a single set of them to be totally honest
one things for sure, you dont need flat benches to build a good chest, incline bb or db, flat or slight decline db presses, db flys,,,
anyone who says otherwise is a brainwashed powerlifter or stuck in the pumping iron days
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might just be the way your body is,,, i much prefer inclines, i will never flat bench again, for my structure it just kills my shoulders, i wish i never performed a single set of them to be totally honest
one things for sure, you dont need flat benches to build a good chest, incline bb or db, flat or slight decline db presses, db flys,,,
anyone who says otherwise is a brainwashed powerlifter or stuck in the pumping iron days
Great advice.
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I appreciate the advice. I have been doing weights for a long time. I had no problem with squats and deadlifts, and when it came to chest, no problem with inclines. But, my flat bench went nowhere. One night I was doing flat bench and almost dropped the weight on myself at what I thought was a weight I could handle. Guess I learned otherwise. Afterward, I stuck to inclines and db flyes, machines and pushups. Like it was said above, that is probably the way my body is.
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Parallel bar Dips are really good and as pointed out you do not need to Bench.
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I think that when it comes to pure chest development incline bench is superior to flat bench. So if you have plenty of upper body mass and are simply looking to bring up your chest this would be a smart move. But if you are looking for overall upperbody mass for your chest, delts, and triceps, flat bench is more productive since it allows you to use more weight.
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Met quite a few men (and a lot more women) who have a problem with even a light weight over them. Most noticed in squats (BB on shoulders/traps), overhead presses and flat/incline presses. Of course the men don't admitted any of this right away, but watching them train, you can catch on pretty quickly the amount of dread with any of those lifts. Can see it in their eyes. DB's don't seem that much of a threat with them.DL's can also be a cause of fear, that some how the weight (100lb or less) will rip their spines out and drop their balls (men) to the floor. Even when using DB's.
Something hard to get over at first, some really don't. A matter of building one's confidence in using equipment and exercises. Just try lifting in a PR/cage. Solid pin setting are very dependable. Or have a wide awake spotter (or two) standing by. Smith's do have accidents and are not 100% safety proof. They give the illusion of safety, but that's not always true. Some can panic using one. PR/Cage, Smith or a good spotter (rare) ,nothing is 100% accident proof in any gym, home or otherwise. Good Luck.
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funnily enough i have a similar kind of mental problem regarding deadlifts, theres times when im upto my final set weight and i totally loose it and end up in the crouched position counting to 3 over n over, only to give up and give me self a slap and get down to it again
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time to stop being a pussy
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never liked bb flats.always prefered my db flats but on an adjustable incline bench.this way i can play with the degrees of incline from flat or until it starts hitting mainly my front delts.can't be afraid of using big wght.you can always alternate from low reps high sets then to high reps low sets to spice things up.my favorite thing for whole chest development is wghted dips,inclines(db/bb) and a low incline heavy db flye movement.hits all parts of your pecs and will give you that "split' so many strive for...
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I'm kind of the opposite from most in this thread at the moment - I've gone back to doing flat barbell bench presses for about the last 6-8 weeks or so and getting good results from them, but I'm only lowering the bar to about an inch or two off my chest, not touching it - that way my shoulders aren't coming into play too much and I feel it reduces the risk of injury. But each to their own - experiment with dumbells as well and see how you go.
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I really think flat dumbbell presses are superior to the bar. Just go low and don't do half reps.
The way the pecs function during the bench is to bring your humerus bone to the center line of your sternum. So dumbbell presses moves your humerus bone wide then at the finish brings the arms together. It's a superior chest movement compared to the bar where your hands are fixed on the bar.
Another solution if you want to flat bar is what was mentioned. Bench in a cage with the safety bars set. You could find a setting where you can touch the chest with the bar. If you fail just take it a little lower and let the bar hit the safety bars.
AGREED 110%. I still do bench press BUT my chest responds ALOT better to dumbell training, ESPECIALLY on FLAT MOVEMENTS, and especially with flat bench dumbell flys. My chest routine.........
Incline Bench 3-4 sets
Flat dumbell fly 3-4 sets
Flat Dumbell press 3-4 sets
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it dont matter that much but as a said above if inclines tend to isolate the chest but if your upper body isnt large already or you havent mastered the barbell bench press the flat is generally best if you cant bench 1.5 times your weight or more your prolly better served flat benching. In my opioning inclines are not that good nor is any exercise if your strong enough to use reasonable poundage. The way to get strong enough flat bench, rows, squats and deads
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Let the bar smash your face once and either you'll be over your fear or mentally retarded.
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it dont matter that much but as a said above if inclines tend to isolate the chest but if your upper body isnt large already or you havent mastered the barbell bench press the flat is generally best if you cant bench 1.5 times your weight or more your prolly better served flat benching. In my opioning inclines are not that good nor is any exercise if your strong enough to use reasonable poundage. The way to get strong enough flat bench, rows, squats and deads
i realy dont agree,,, id say at least half the people who have ever trained have long term shoulder issues because of flat benching, your either built to do them or your not....
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I need help with building my chest. I like doing incline bench presses, but hate doing flat bench. For some reason, I have a fear of dropping the bar on my chest on the flat bench, but do not have this fear with the incline. Sounds crazy? Has anyone else ever felt this way? How did you overcome this? Thanks - David
buy one of these, there safer you can pile a ton of weight on them and bench incline decline flat or upright press. the range of motion is actually better than a normal bar due to yoke design...
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most people have horrible benching technique to wide of girp shoulders not tight and flat backed, for a safe bench you need a medium type grip and have you should drove togther and into the bench hard the barbell bench is a full body exercise you have to be tight and stable
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How about doing the bench in variations, such as wide grip, mid grip and close in or narrow grip. Does this make a difference?I have thought about breaking my bench pressing down like this instead of doing just one grip.
Thanks for the responses and comments guys. I appreciate them..... :)
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most people have horrible benching technique to wide of girp shoulders not tight and flat backed, for a safe bench you need a medium type grip and have you should drove togther and into the bench hard the barbell bench is a full body exercise you have to be tight and stable
thats all well and good, but it still doesnt matter.... as i said your built for flat benches or your not, if your not dont do them, i guarantee you wont get a huge chest with fucked up shoulders
incline bb, db, flys.... will build as good or better.. only powerlifting based bodybuilders rely on flats
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I need help with building my chest. I like doing incline bench presses, but hate doing flat bench. For some reason, I have a fear of dropping the bar on my chest on the flat bench, but do not have this fear with the incline. Sounds crazy? Has anyone else ever felt this way? How did you overcome this? Thanks - David
Always have someone you trust spot you.....that is about all you can do.
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I can't do Flat bench either. Some people are just not built for it. Can't unrack the fucking bar, it feels awkward, my shoulders hurt...
I just do inclines and i'm good to go. You can substitute flat bench for anything, seated hammer presses, leverage bench press, smith machine bench press...don't fall into that big 3 bullshit. You can built an awesome chest without flat bench.
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I can't do Flat bench either. Some people are just not built for it. Can't unrack the fucking bar, it feels awkward, my shoulders hurt...
I just do inclines and i'm good to go. You can substitute flat bench for anything, seated hammer presses, leverage bench press, smith machine bench press...don't fall into that big 3 bullshit. You can built an awesome chest without flat bench.
you dont HAVE to do any exercise, if one doesnt work for you find another one.
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9 times out of 10 if someone has problems with flat bench it is due to setting up wrong. There is a real good video on youtube by Dave Tate check it out and try to bench like that if it still hurts your probably that 10% and just leave them alone.