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Title: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on May 29, 2011, 08:43:00 AM
Ok, Im 40 y/o, 5"8', been told Im 8% b/f on my legs and 15% upper body therefore 12% overall! Im a 35"-36" waist which I want to drop a couple of inches to give a more tapered V-shaped look, I also want a more veiny, ripped look (ie Bale in Batman/Reynolds in Blade - not saying I'll be as good them though but Im sure you know what I mean)/ I've been on the following diet for 10 weeks but not seeing the progress that I want:

7am

50g Oats with 6-8 egg whites, natural yogurt, banana  OR 3 pieces of toast, scrambled eggs and banana

10 am

3 poached eggs or scrambled with 2-3 toast, banana

1300

Turkey mince with brown rice, banana

1600

Mass gainer Protein shake (cannot have cooked food as Im at work)OR tuna/rice cakes on days off/weekends)

17.15

Pre WO - Cashew nuts, bit of honey, train

19.00

PWO - Mass gainer drink


20.30

Steak or chicken, brocoli, cauliflower or asparagus

22.30

Can of tuna/haddock or 6-8 egg white Omelete

I only cheat on Sundays and do 15 mins of HIT cardio after each training session which are 5 days a week Mon-Fri. I do abs 3 times p/week but my upper body progress is slow, especially my back. Any advice on where Im going wrong would be apprciated.

Hvae loads of water and normal vits, I still cant get my upper body more cut, and help on where Im going wrong would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Princess L on May 29, 2011, 09:46:16 AM
Drop at least 2 bananas. And replace with apple or Berry or veg and for sure replace mass gainers with protein powder with less Carb/sugar. And add fats like olive oil and fish oil.
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on May 29, 2011, 10:56:26 AM
Drop at least 2 bananas. And replace with apple or Berry or veg and for sure replace mass gainers with protein powder with less Carb/sugar. And add fats like olive oil and fish oil.


Ok.....when you say berry do you mean Strawberries? And as for the mass drinks, If I use a plain whey protein at 16.00 instead of the mass drink surely my hunger cravings will be worse? What shall I do to minimize that?
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Princess L on May 29, 2011, 11:31:22 AM
Ok.....when you say berry do you mean Strawberries? And as for the mass drinks, If I use a plain whey protein at 16.00 instead of the mass drink surely my hunger cravings will be worse? What shall I do to minimize that?

Typing on a phone sucks!

Any kind of berry. 3 bananas a day is too much. Find something else less caloric and w/more fiber.  Mass gainers are loaded with sugar and other fillers and low quality protein.  There are MRPs out there with fewer calories if convenience is the driving factor.
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on May 29, 2011, 01:40:49 PM
Typing on a phone sucks!

Any kind of berry. 3 bananas a day is too much. Find something else less caloric and w/more fiber.  Mass gainers are loaded with sugar and other fillers and low quality protein.  There are MRPs out there with fewer calories if convenience is the driving factor.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: GettingBig on May 30, 2011, 05:16:12 PM
Ok.....when you say berry do you mean Strawberries? And as for the mass drinks, If I use a plain whey protein at 16.00 instead of the mass drink surely my hunger cravings will be worse? What shall I do to minimize that?

try casein protein and you can add some healthy fats, you will feel full and aid fat burning.

also for few times i replaced shakes with real food even PWO since im cutting and i really felt im holding less water and felt much better.

Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Fitness4Life on June 02, 2011, 05:21:41 PM
Ok, Im 40 y/o, 5"8', been told Im 8% b/f on my legs and 15% upper body therefore 12% overall! Im a 35"-36" waist which I want to drop a couple of inches to give a more tapered V-shaped look, I also want a more veiny, ripped look (ie Bale in Batman/Reynolds in Blade - not saying I'll be as good them though but Im sure you know what I mean)/ I've been on the following diet for 10 weeks but not seeing the progress that I want:

7am

50g Oats with 6-8 egg whites, natural yogurt, banana  OR 3 pieces of toast, scrambled eggs and banana

10 am

3 poached eggs or scrambled with 2-3 toast, banana

1300

Turkey mince with brown rice, banana

1600

Mass gainer Protein shake (cannot have cooked food as Im at work)OR tuna/rice cakes on days off/weekends)

17.15

Pre WO - Cashew nuts, bit of honey, train

19.00

PWO - Mass gainer drink


20.30

Steak or chicken, brocoli, cauliflower or asparagus

22.30

Can of tuna/haddock or 6-8 egg white Omelete

I only cheat on Sundays and do 15 mins of HIT cardio after each training session which are 5 days a week Mon-Fri. I do abs 3 times p/week but my upper body progress is slow, especially my back. Any advice on where Im going wrong would be apprciated.

Hvae loads of water and normal vits, I still cant get my upper body more cut, and help on where Im going wrong would be appreciated.

you have so much damn carbs in just your first 3 meals bud.  I didn't want to look past that!!!  your diet would put 20lbs on me in a month!!!!  cut the carbs u fatty!!!
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: DK II on June 02, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Get some Lipo-6 or SAN or similary fatburner.

On a side note, both Bale in Batman and Reynolds in Blade were on the juice.

Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on June 04, 2011, 04:17:55 AM
you have so much damn carbs in just your first 3 meals bud.  I didn't want to look past that!!!  your diet would put 20lbs on me in a month!!!!  cut the carbs u fatty!!!

Lol, I agree, Im cutting out all bread and weight gainer (replacing it with plain whey protein) and cutting down on bananas. Plus Im gonna up the cardio to 30 mins a session. Does anybody think I will need a fat burner to help?
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on June 04, 2011, 04:20:26 AM
Get some Lipo-6 or SAN or similary fatburner.

On a side note, both Bale in Batman and Reynolds in Blade were on the juice.


How do you know that?  Surely if they had regular training sessions by the worlds best coaches, meals prepared by chefs, theit trainers constantly giving them motivation and access to the best equipment why would they use rods???
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: DK II on June 04, 2011, 04:27:08 AM
How do you know that?  Surely if they had regular training sessions by the worlds best coaches, meals prepared by chefs, theit trainers constantly giving them motivation and access to the best equipment why would they use rods???

LOL. yeah sure.

(http://www.urbanmoms.ca/juice/christian-bale-batman.jpg)

(http://kalafudra.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/ryan_reynolds_blade3.jpg)


Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: wes on June 05, 2011, 02:48:10 AM
k, Im 40 y/o, 5"8', been told Im 8% b/f on my legs and 15% upper body therefore 12% overall! Im a 35"-36" waist which I want to drop a couple of inches to give a more tapered V-shaped look, I also want a more veiny, ripped look (ie Bale in Batman/Reynolds in Blade - not saying I'll be as good them though but Im sure 5 oz.you know what I mean)/ I've been on the following diet for 10 weeks but not seeing the progress that I want:

7am

50g Oats with 8-10 egg whites, 10 oz. water

10 am

1 can water packed tuna,salad,with fat free ,low sugar dressing (3gms. or less) 16 oz. water

1300

5 oz. Skinless chicken breast with brown rice,1 cup plain vegetables 12 oz. water

1600

1 scoop whey in 10 oz. water

17.15

2 cups coffee

19.00

PWO - 1 scoop whey in water,1 baked potato (plain)


20.30

5 oz. chicken, brocoli, cauliflower or asparagus 12 oz. water

22.30

Can of tuna 16 oz. water


I only cheat on Sundays and do 15 mins of HIT cardio after each training session which are 5 days a week Mon-Fri. I do abs 3 times p/week but my upper body progress is slow, especially my back. Any advice on where Im going wrong would be apprciated.

NO CHEATING,JUST HAVE A HIGHER CARB DAY CONSISTING OF CLEAN CARBS!!


Hvae loads of water and normal vits, I still cant get my upper body more cut, and help on where Im going wrong would be appreciated.

THANK ME LATER AND GET SERIOUS BROTHER!!
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on June 05, 2011, 04:25:09 AM
k, Im 40 y/o, 5"8', been told Im 8% b/f on my legs and 15% upper body therefore 12% overall! Im a 35"-36" waist which I want to drop a couple of inches to give a more tapered V-shaped look, I also want a more veiny, ripped look (ie Bale in Batman/Reynolds in Blade - not saying I'll be as good them though but Im sure 5 oz.you know what I mean)/ I've been on the following diet for 10 weeks but not seeing the progress that I want:

7am

50g Oats with 8-10 egg whites, 10 oz. water

10 am

1 can water packed tuna,salad,with low fat ,low sugar (3gms. or less) 16 oz. water

1300

5 oz. Skinless chicken breast with brown rice,1 cup plain vegetables 12 oz. water

1600

1 scoop whey in 10 oz. water

17.15

2 cups coffee

19.00

PWO - 1 scoop whey in water,1 baked potato (plain)


20.30

5 oz. chicken, brocoli, cauliflower or asparagus 12 oz. water

22.30

Can of tuna 16 oz. water


I only cheat on Sundays and do 15 mins of HIT cardio after each training session which are 5 days a week Mon-Fri. I do abs 3 times p/week but my upper body progress is slow, especially my back. Any advice on where Im going wrong would be apprciated.

NO CHEATING,JUST HAVE A HIGHER CARB DAY CONSISTING OF CLEAN CARBS!!


Hvae loads of water and normal vits, I still cant get my upper body more cut, and help on where Im going wrong would be appreciated.

THANK ME LATER AND GET SERIOUS BROTHER!!

That's a much better diet than what I was on, will also not cheat now either - plus I will up the cardio to 30 mins each session. I will report back in 12 weeks!
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: wes on June 05, 2011, 11:33:05 PM
Good luck bud......I`m 56 and dieting right now and plan on being in the best shape of my life come this July.

Stay focused,stay hungry,be consistant, and remember to stay on this type of regimen,you gotta` want it badly!!
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rudee on June 28, 2011, 09:03:13 PM
10 days of nothing but Steak and eggs, with a salad at dinner will get you dialed in.
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on July 10, 2011, 02:07:33 AM
Well, here I am nearly 6 weeks later....revamped everything, cut out all pasta, bread, bananas etc.....here are my pics from last week, what do you think??
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: trapz101 on July 10, 2011, 04:08:20 AM
good work...even now can see the feathered look on your quads...
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: efirkey on July 10, 2011, 02:26:55 PM
What's your waist measure now?  certainly not 35".  You look good! great job! 

Did you follow Wes' diet?
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: suckmymuscle on July 10, 2011, 06:16:24 PM
Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!

  Find out how many calories you need to maintain your current bodyweight, then subtract 500 calories from that and spread it over 6 meals. For every meal get a lean protein with very low glycemic carbs and vegetables. The protein is important because it furthers decreases the glycemic load of the carbs, and spares muscle which keeps your metabolism high. The vegetables are important for G.I health, vitamin/minerals and antioxidants and keeps you full. Do one hour of low-intensity aerobics first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, or if you feel light-headed, do it in the afternoon. It is very important to do your weight training, as the more muscle you have the more calories you'll burn while resting.

  Finding out how many calories you need to maintain your current bodyweight can be done in two manners. You can do it professionally with a calorimeter, which is impractical, or write down everything you eat for three days, add up the calories by checking on calorie tabs, which are easily available, then divide by three. This will give you an idea of your daily calorie intake. Proceed as elucidated above.

SUCKMYMUSCLE 
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: wes on July 11, 2011, 04:05:26 AM
Looking really good dude!!
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: wes on July 11, 2011, 04:06:36 AM
  Find out how many calories you need to maintain your current bodyweight, then subtract 500 calories from that and spread it over 6 meals. For every meal get a lean protein with very low glycemic carbs and vegetables. The protein is important because it furthers decreases the glycemic load of the carbs, and spares muscle which keeps your metabolism high. The vegetables are important for G.I health, vitamin/minerals and antioxidants and keeps you full. Do one hour of low-intensity aerobics first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, or if you feel light-headed, do it in the afternoon. It is very important to do your weight training, as the more muscle you have the more calories you'll burn while resting.

  Finding out how many calories you need to maintain your current bodyweight can be done in two manners. You can do it professionally with a calorimeter, which is impractical, or write down everything you eat for three days, add up the calories by checking on calorie tabs, which are easily available, then divide by three. This will give you an idea of your daily calorie intake. Proceed as elucidated above.

SUCKMYMUSCLE 
Great advice.
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: MP on July 12, 2011, 04:34:59 AM
Nice work. I have the same goals. What are you weighing in the recent pics?
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on July 12, 2011, 11:46:37 AM
Nice work. I have the same goals. What are you weighing in the recent pics?

13st 3lbs at the moment.
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: pac-man on July 12, 2011, 11:49:22 AM
Rickyboy, your post got me thinking and I wanted to hear opinions and maybe this has been touched upon here already..

So you said you dropped out all bananas, bread, pasta, ect..  So did you replace the calories with anything else- more protein or fat or did you just make that your caloric deficit. 

I know this goes back to the old debate is a calorie just a calorie or does the type of calorie or maybe in this case type of carbohydrate you eat affect body fat levels.  Eating the same amount of carbs in bread, fruit, and pasta doesn’t burn as much fat if you were eating brown rice, oatmeal, and veggies..

What is everyones experience with this to get really lean?

Oh and good pics by the way Rickyboy..awsome progress!!
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: MP on July 12, 2011, 06:32:22 PM
13st 3lbs at the moment.

?
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on July 13, 2011, 02:59:20 PM
?

Im English and we have a habit of stating our weight in stone  :) not sure how many lbs that works out to.....
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on July 13, 2011, 03:00:09 PM
What's your waist measure now?  certainly not 35".  You look good! great job! 

Did you follow Wes' diet?

Its 33.5"
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rickyboy on July 13, 2011, 03:03:36 PM
Rickyboy, your post got me thinking and I wanted to hear opinions and maybe this has been touched upon here already..

So you said you dropped out all bananas, bread, pasta, ect..  So did you replace the calories with anything else- more protein or fat or did you just make that your caloric deficit. 

I know this goes back to the old debate is a calorie just a calorie or does the type of calorie or maybe in this case type of carbohydrate you eat affect body fat levels.  Eating the same amount of carbs in bread, fruit, and pasta doesn’t burn as much fat if you were eating brown rice, oatmeal, and veggies..

What is everyones experience with this to get really lean?

Oh and good pics by the way Rickyboy..awsome progress!!


Did not replace the calories as such....needed to drop calories anyway....no starchy carbs after 20.00....and 30 mins HIT cardio 5 times a week.
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: chris-a on July 25, 2011, 02:30:37 PM
Im English and we have a habit of stating our weight in stone  :) not sure how many lbs that works out to.....

you're 185lbs.
done well, good stuff mate...
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: kevcat on July 27, 2011, 04:06:48 AM
First thing i wouldve told you mate is that 15mins cardio is literally pointless IMO.Your diet looked fine to me at the beginning, maybe without all the bananas and cut some bread out.Obviously youve gotten results from what you tweaked anyway and congrats, but i personally would rather drop the fat by doing cardio rather than starving myself lol well done!
Title: Re: Diet advice please- struggling to get cut/more ripped!!
Post by: Rudee on August 03, 2011, 05:01:08 PM
First thing i wouldve told you mate is that 15mins cardio is literally pointless IMO....

Depends on the intensity of the cardio.  If he doesn't restrict his carbs too severely, a hard 15 minute bout of intervals on the treadmill, elliptical or bike can be fabulous for whipping a person into shape.