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Title: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: OzmO on June 03, 2011, 11:41:40 AM




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Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Medicaid

By Marie Diamond on Jun 2, 2011 at 10:00 am

Despite recent polls that show Americans are just as protective of Medicaid as they are of Medicare, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) is trying to gut the popular program in his state and prevent 23,000 people from receiving benefits. Christie has proposed cutting Medicaid eligibility to absurdly low levels: from the current maximum income of $24,645 to $5,317 a year for a family of three. Apparently, the governor believes a family of three making $6,000 a year is simply too rich to receive Medicaid.

The New Jersey press has reported that the main effect of his proposal would be to slash help for the working poor, tearing a huge hole in the state’s social safety net:

    Adults in a family of three that makes as little as $103 a week would earn too much to qualify for health care provided by Medicaid under a sharply curtailed program Gov. Chris Christie wants the federal government to approve this year, according to state officials and advocates briefed on the proposal.[...]

    The Christie administration is expected to propose cutting the maximum income level of Medicaid from $24,645 to $5,317 a year for a family of three [...]

    “That is about a third of the poverty level,” Castro said. “That means that an uninsured parent working full time at a minimum-wage job wouldn’t be eligible. … A parent who works half-time for minimum wage wouldn’t even qualify.

    “Unfortunately, the only way these parents can become eligible for health coverage in the future is if the parent applies for and is eligible for welfare,” Castro added. “That sends the wrong message.”

Democratic lawmakers are furious that Christie is insisting on making $300 million in cuts on the backs of poor and disabled residents. They point out that apart from the morally bankrupt idea of denying care to the neediest population, having more people uninsured will ultimately be more costly for New Jersey.

“Those 23,000 people are going to get sick this year,” said Louis Greenwald (D), a committee chairman. “Where are you suggesting they’re going to go?”

State Sen. Joseph Vitale (D), who sponsored the legislation creating FamilyCare in 1998, explained, “This completely dismantles the progress made over the last 12 years, and then some…I can’t imagine how it could be any worse.”

Since Medicaid — which provides health care services to at-risk populations including the indigent, blind and disabled — is jointly funded by the federal government, states must apply for a waiver before making major changes. That means Obama administration officials can still block Christie’s radical attempts to curtail enrollment.
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 03, 2011, 11:48:30 AM
Good.  Medicaid is another massive scam and drain on the middle class taxpayer.   The sad thing is that it will drive most of those bums over to NY where we already are getting raped with taxes to pay for this shit.   

Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Option D on June 03, 2011, 11:49:15 AM
Good.  Medicaid is another massive scam and drain on the middle class taxpayer.   The sad thing is that it will drive most of those bums over to NY where we already are getting raped with taxes to pay for this shit.   



obama did it
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 03, 2011, 11:51:17 AM
obama did it

He definately is not helping it.   

Medicaid is one of the main drivers of property taxes in NY and NJ, where were are geting killed.   NJ and NY have 13 of the top 15 property tax rates in large part due to overly generous medicaid payouts.

 
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: dario73 on June 03, 2011, 11:57:46 AM
Christie is the man.
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: kcballer on June 03, 2011, 12:00:28 PM
Wow talked about swinging the pendulum too far!
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Straw Man on June 03, 2011, 12:25:42 PM
$6,000 is probably tubby's monthly doughnut bill
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: OzmO on June 03, 2011, 12:27:25 PM
Lol Straw
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Dos Equis on June 03, 2011, 12:51:56 PM
Someone in public office making tough choices in an attempt to control spending of taxpayer money.  Good for him.
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Option D on June 03, 2011, 01:25:57 PM
Someone in public office making tough choices in an attempt to control spending of taxpayer money.  Good for him.

WWJD
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Dos Equis on June 03, 2011, 01:28:10 PM
WWJD

Make a number of people on welfare get a job? 
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 03, 2011, 01:29:15 PM
WWJD

 ::)  ::)

Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Straw Man on June 03, 2011, 04:01:50 PM
Make a number of people on welfare get a job?  

this will likely increase the people on welfare

let's say you're a single mother with two shit part time jobs, neither of which offer health care

you don't make enough money to purchase healthcare and you've got a child with a chronic illness, let's say asthma

The only way you can get meds and treatment for your kid is via medicaid but your two shit jobs pay you 22k a year

If this measure by Christie goes through your kid might die from an asthma attack that could have been easily treated

So do you let your kid suffer and maybe even die or do you quit your job and go on welfare so you can qualify for Medicaid ?

I know the "family values" and "sanctity of life" crowd will say tough shit.   Call us back when there is a fetus involved and we'll be outraged
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Deicide on June 03, 2011, 04:04:11 PM
Good build on that guy.
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Straw Man on June 03, 2011, 08:05:57 PM
Good build on that guy.

his center of gravity is almost perfect
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: tonymctones on June 04, 2011, 12:32:55 AM
this will likely increase the people on welfare

let's say you're a single mother with two shit part time jobs, neither of which offer health care

you don't make enough money to purchase healthcare and you've got a child with a chronic illness, let's say asthma

The only way you can get meds and treatment for your kid is via medicaid but your two shit jobs pay you 22k a year

If this measure by Christie goes through your kid might die from an asthma attack that could have been easily treated

So do you let your kid suffer and maybe even die or do you quit your job and go on welfare so you can qualify for Medicaid ?

I know the "family values" and "sanctity of life" crowd will say tough shit.   Call us back when there is a fetus involved and we'll be outraged

so youd rather obamas plan, which will add all part time employees time together and make the company pay the penalty for the equivelant full time employees?

LMFAO

trust obama is making a bad situation far worse broham


Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Skip8282 on June 04, 2011, 07:02:41 AM
If this measure by Christie goes through your kid might die from an asthma attack that could have been easily treated

So do you let your kid suffer and maybe even die or do you quit your job and go on welfare so you can qualify for Medicaid ?

I know the "family values" and "sanctity of life" crowd will say tough shit.   Call us back when there is a fetus involved and we'll be outraged



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Adults moron.  He wants to cut adults.  Children will continue to be covered.

Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Fury on June 04, 2011, 07:44:48 AM
$6,000 is probably tubby's monthly doughnut bill

Hide that white face and I'd swear it's Michelle Obama.
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2011, 08:02:11 AM

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Adults moron.  He wants to cut adults.  Children will continue to be covered.



fine

change the person with the chronic illness to the mother

she works 2 shit jobs and makes 22k and would no longer be eligible for Medicaid

without Medicaid she may die from a condition that could be easily managed with access to basic health care

Assuming she is actually cares about staying alive and raising her kids she might make the choice to quit her jobs and go on welfare so that she can't get qualify for Medicaid and stay alive.

She's prefer to work but virtually any job she get's means she is no longer qualified for Medicaid and she can't afford health insurance

Her best option for staying alive is to quit her jobs and go on welfare
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 04, 2011, 08:03:49 AM
Let her move to another state if she does not like it.
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Straw Man on June 04, 2011, 08:05:48 AM
Let her move to another state if she does not like it.

so quit her jobs and move to another state

and when she get's there she goes on welfare and starts looking for a new job and hope to get one

great idea
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Option D on June 04, 2011, 03:52:27 PM
so quit her jobs and move to another state

and when she get's there she goes on welfare and starts looking for a new job and hope to get one

great idea

this "guy" is so 1 dimensional its not even funny... this "guy" looks at an issue from 1 view depending on th the issue... i told you he was really 15 years old.. im convinced now
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 04, 2011, 03:54:40 PM
Yawn.  Since when is welfare an entitlment and right?  If the state can't afford it - too bad.
Title: Re: Gov. Christie Thinks A Family Making $6,000 A Year Is Too Rich To Qualify For Me
Post by: Deicide on June 04, 2011, 03:55:43 PM
I'm surprised his health image doesn't affect his popularity, morbidly obese people usually don't make good public figures.