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Title: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: obtuse_waiter on June 03, 2011, 06:53:13 PM
if communism has failed every time

why do you want it in usa?

also if europe are massively poor compared to usa, which they are,
why copy them?

should they not copy usa?

we are #1
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: obtuse_waiter on June 03, 2011, 07:28:49 PM
http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=3688
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: HTexan on June 03, 2011, 08:27:42 PM
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. -Winston Churchill



Socialism and Nazism is the same - Adolf Hitler
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: bradistani on June 03, 2011, 08:33:46 PM
if communism has failed every time

why do you want it in usa?

also if europe are massively poor compared to usa, which they are,
why copy them?

should they not copy usa?

we are #1


you really believe that don't ya  ;D

parts of america look positively 3rd world
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: James28 on June 03, 2011, 08:33:53 PM
Socio-Capitalism. Ala Scandinavian countries.
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Mr. Magoo on June 03, 2011, 08:42:49 PM
non capitalist = communism???

come on dude, you're smarter than that
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Largerthanlife on June 03, 2011, 08:46:13 PM
there are hybrid socialism systems that work out great, capitalism has proven to fail.

Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 03, 2011, 08:48:17 PM
if communism has failed every time

why do you want it in usa?

also if europe are massively poor compared to usa, which they are,
why copy them?

  I think I missed the memo. Who is trying to implant communism in the U.S.A? For your information, giving nourishment to starving little toddlers does not constitute "communism": it is basic Human decency. There is a point where political ideology stops and callousness begins. This is the point where you proclaim that starving children in the streets should be allowed to starve because feeding them would be "communist".

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should they not copy usa?
we are #1

  Actually, the U.S ranks below #1 in many indicators of Human development, from literacy rates to people who live beneath the poverty line to homicide rates and infant mortality rates. And Americans have an arrogance that makes them think they are #1 at everything, when in reality being the #1 in GDP and military power does not make you the #1 at anything besides GDP and military power. This arrogance is quite manly, but makes the World hate America and want to kill Americans

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Largerthanlife on June 03, 2011, 08:53:53 PM
 I think I missed the memo. Who is trying to implant communism in the U.S.A? For your information, giving nourishment to starving little toddlers does not constitute "communism": it is basic Human decency. There is a point where political ideology stops and callousness begins. This is the point where you proclaim that starving children in the streets should be allowed to starve because feeding them would be "communist".

  Actually, the U.S ranks below #1 in many indicators of Human development, from literacy rates to people who live beneath the poverty line to homicide rates and infant mortality rates. And Americans have an arrogance that makes them think they are #1 at everything, when in reality being the #1 in GDP and military power does not make you the #1 at anything besides GDP and military power. This arrogance is quite manly, but makes the World hate America and want to kill Americans

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Republicans don't like to help anybody but themselves, so they call anything other than paying more than .001 % in taxes socialism.

Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Firemuscle on June 03, 2011, 09:03:55 PM
 The problem with modern capitalism is that it rapes the land, it's unsustainable and and it's heavily dependant on resources that are finite.

 It's a self-destructive system that will lead mankind into self-destruction.

 The environmental and ecological imact it has is the main problem.
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: grab an umbrella on June 03, 2011, 09:05:55 PM
Lolz.  How many children are dying because of true hunger and not neglect or abuse?  Being "under the poverty line" is the equivalent to being rich in other countries.
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Largerthanlife on June 03, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
The problem with modern capitalism is that it rapes the land, it's unsustainable and and it's heavily dependant on resources that are finite.

 It's a self-destructive system that will lead mankind into self-destruction.

 The environmental and ecological imact it has is the main problem.

good post
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 03, 2011, 09:14:29 PM
Republicans don't like to help anybody but themselves, so they call anything other than paying more than .001 % in taxes socialism.



  People in America are confused about what communism truly is. Communism is when the government invades your home, confiscates all your property, take your sons to slave labor and your daughters to be the sexual pets of Party members, and then tell you that from now on you will work at a certain job whether you like it or not, and then all you produce will belong to the government, which will give back to you whatever it wants, usually just the minimum to keep you alive and laboring. That is communism.

  Feeding little children that are starving in the streets who's parents are unable to feed them because they are shiftless bums is not communism: it is Human decency. Hell, even animals have that decency. Cubs that are orfans will often by fed by other adults in the pack. Many conservatives believe that, by allowing the children to starve, you will shame the parents into getting jobs. This is cruel and illogical. Even if it works, you are cruelly punishing children who didn't do anything to deserve this. It is not their fault that their parents had them without being able to afford them and are conscientiousless and won't support them. If the parents had them without being able to afford them, it is a good clue that they won't be shamed into getting jobs by the hungry cries of their starving children. A rational, truly libertarian society punishes the perpetrators of a situation with victims and not the victims themselves. I say feed, house and educate the children both with formal knowledge and morals, so that they won't turn out like their parents, and punish the parents severely with forced labor for their shamelessness and irresponsibility. This is how a truly rational and enlightened society handles the issue. Americans are deeply confused about the role of government in a free society, and what constitutes communism and not. Conservatives see government intervention of any sort to correct social ills as "communism", whilst in reality the government is justified to step on and take a lead in correcting social issues in many cases.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 03, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
Lmao @ LTL and BFRS. Hahahaha
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: grab an umbrella on June 03, 2011, 09:20:45 PM
 People in America are confused about what communism truly is. Communism is when the government invades your home, confiscates all your property, take your sons to slave labor and your daughters to be the sexual pets of Party members, and then tell you that from now on you will work at a certain job whether you like it or not, and then all you produce will belong to the government, which will give back to you whatever it wants, usually just the minimum to keep you alive and laboring. That is communism.

  Feeding little children that are starving in the streets who's parents are unable to feed them because they are shiftless bums is not communism: it is Human decency. Hell, even animals have that decency. Cubs that are orfans will often by fed by other adults in the pack. Many conservatives believe that, by allowing the children to starve, you will shame the parents into getting jobs. This is cruel and illogical. Even if it works, you are cruelly punishing children who didn't do anything to deserve this. It is not their fault that their parents had them without being able to afford them and are conscientiousless and won't support them. If the parents had them without being able to afford them, it is a good clue that they won't be shamed into getting jobs by the hungry cries of their starving children. A rational, truly libertarian society punishes the perpetrators of a situation with victims and not the victims themselves. I say feed, house and educate the children both with formal knowledge and morals, so that they won't turn out like their parents, and punish the parents severely with forced labor for their shamelessness and irresponsibility. This is how a truly rational and enlightened society handles the issue. Americans are deeply confused about the role of government in a free society, and what constitutes communism and not. Conservatives see government intervention of any sort to correct social ills as "communism", whilst in reality the government is justified to step on and take a lead in correcting social issues in many cases.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Kindly refer to my above post.  People in America are poor by choice.
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Largerthanlife on June 03, 2011, 09:24:53 PM
People in america are mostly poor by who gave birth to them, if it was a rich house wife they are set, if it was a poor woman who had the father leave to not pay child support, the child will probably grow up to be poor.  The USA has hardly any opportunities for young kids now to grow up and get out of poverty, especially now, they can get in college with some loans, but after that, the US economy is in the shitter because capitalism and corporations have destroyed america.



Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Firemuscle on June 03, 2011, 09:29:40 PM
People in america are mostly poor by who gave birth to them, if it was a rich house wife they are set, if it was a poor woman who had the father leave to not pay child support, the child will probably grow up to be poor.  The USA has hardly any opportunities for young kids now to grow up and get out of poverty, especially now, they can get in college with some loans, but after that, the US economy is in the shitter because capitalism and corporations have destroyed america.





 I gotta agree with this.

 Capitalism can be an amazing system in some circumstances.

 But right now, in the USA, capitalism isn't working too well. Lots of people are getting fucked hard from it.

 And for every American who is living well on capitalism, about 100 Africans and South Asians are getting their lives ruined as a direct result.
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: grab an umbrella on June 03, 2011, 09:29:46 PM
People in america are mostly poor by who gave birth to them, if it was a rich house wife they are set, if it was a poor woman who had the father leave to not pay child support, the child will probably grow up to be poor.  The USA has hardly any opportunities for young kids now to grow up and get out of poverty, especially now, they can get in college with some loans, but after that, the US economy is in the shitter because capitalism and corporations have destroyed america.





Lol, lets be honest.  Kids that go to college in America can't find jobs because they're getting bullshit degrees. 
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Largerthanlife on June 03, 2011, 09:35:37 PM
Not true, many engineer's are having trouble finding any jobs, the whole country has gone to shit. 
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: tbombz on June 03, 2011, 09:37:06 PM
 People in America are confused about what communism truly is. Communism is when the government invades your home, confiscates all your property, take your sons to slave labor and your daughters to be the sexual pets of Party members, and then tell you that from now on you will work at a certain job whether you like it or not, and then all you produce will belong to the government, which will give back to you whatever it wants, usually just the minimum to keep you alive and laboring. That is communism.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
that is not communism
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 03, 2011, 09:54:29 PM
that is not communism

  Tell that to Soljenitsin...or to any Cubans in Miami who fled Castro's regime...

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: AbrahamG on June 03, 2011, 10:55:22 PM
if communism has failed every time

why do you want it in usa?

also if europe are massively poor compared to usa, which they are,
why copy them?

should they not copy usa?

we are #1

Your ignorance is very impressive.  Communism is NOT Socialism.  No one in this country or at least on the political left wants communism.  Please take Mr. Beck's penis out of your mouth.
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Swedish Viking on June 03, 2011, 11:05:18 PM
 People in America are confused about what communism truly is. Communism is when the government invades your home, confiscates all your property, take your sons to slave labor and your daughters to be the sexual pets of Party members, and then tell you that from now on you will work at a certain job whether you like it or not, and then all you produce will belong to the government, which will give back to you whatever it wants, usually just the minimum to keep you alive and laboring. That is communism.

  Feeding little children that are starving in the streets who's parents are unable to feed them because they are shiftless bums is not communism: it is Human decency. Hell, even animals have that decency. Cubs that are orfans will often by fed by other adults in the pack. Many conservatives believe that, by allowing the children to starve, you will shame the parents into getting jobs. This is cruel and illogical. Even if it works, you are cruelly punishing children who didn't do anything to deserve this. It is not their fault that their parents had them without being able to afford them and are conscientiousless and won't support them. If the parents had them without being able to afford them, it is a good clue that they won't be shamed into getting jobs by the hungry cries of their starving children. A rational, truly libertarian society punishes the perpetrators of a situation with victims and not the victims themselves. I say feed, house and educate the children both with formal knowledge and morals, so that they won't turn out like their parents, and punish the parents severely with forced labor for their shamelessness and irresponsibility. This is how a truly rational and enlightened society handles the issue. Americans are deeply confused about the role of government in a free society, and what constitutes communism and not. Conservatives see government intervention of any sort to correct social ills as "communism", whilst in reality the government is justified to step on and take a lead in correcting social issues in many cases.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

This.
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: HTexan on June 03, 2011, 11:19:34 PM
that is not communism
::) ::)
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on June 03, 2011, 11:41:12 PM
USA is a mixed economy for your information.  :D
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: freespirit on June 04, 2011, 01:33:49 AM
if communism has failed every time

why do you want it in usa?

also if europe are massively poor compared to usa, which they are,
why copy them?

should they not copy usa?

we are #1

You're a fool.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/40-signs-the-chinese-economy-is-beating-the-living-daylights-out-of-the-u-s-economy
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Kulutues on June 04, 2011, 02:10:51 AM
chinas only improving becauase of privatization, taking a lot of lessons in capitalism

and china is a shithole, hundreds of millions of chinese live like Westerners did 300+ years ago
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: freespirit on June 04, 2011, 02:12:13 AM
chinas only improving becauase of privatization, taking a lot of lessons in capitalism

and china is a shithole, hundreds of millions of chinese live like Westerners did 300+ years ago

America on the other hand, is in serious decline and will eventually become a much bigger shithole than China is today.
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Firemuscle on June 04, 2011, 02:14:25 AM
America on the other hand, is in serious decline and will eventually become a much bigger shithole than China is today.

 That's true.

 When I was a kid in the USA there was a middle class and people working shit jobs could still save up and buy homes and retire confortably.

 Now you are either poor or rich. Middle class is almost gone in the US. The American Dream is almost dead.
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Kulutues on June 04, 2011, 02:52:05 AM
America on the other hand, is in serious decline and will eventually become a much bigger shithole than China is today.

maybe in 5000 years, and then still prolly not
Title: Re: question honest for non capitalists
Post by: Kulutues on June 04, 2011, 02:53:26 AM
That's true.

 When I was a kid in the USA there was a middle class and people working shit jobs could still save up and buy homes and retire confortably.

 Now you are either poor or rich. Middle class is almost gone in the US. The American Dream is almost dead.

governments fault, the biggest corporation of them all (the fed)