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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mesmorph78 on June 06, 2011, 02:00:36 PM
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(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14923&stc=1&d=1281114857)
(http://goldenmuscles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/kai_green_opener_lg.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach%3Btopic=271213.0%3Battach=310332%3Bimage)
(http://oi53.tinypic.com/av0oer.jpg)
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6743/300669967.jpg)
vs
(http://www.homemadefitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/phil-heath.jpg)
(http://www.wallpapershdi.com/picture/79e7d5924ee3732780f21b401060837d/phil-heath_800x600.jpg)
(http://www.ironmagazine.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/3397.jpg)
(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11045&stc=1&d=1271474301)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/asc2010/img_09731267901615_small.jpg)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=44856&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://images.hugi.is/heilsa/142485.jpg)
Who wins
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Philsulina Heath wins..
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Kai, better overall package.
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The 2 best BB of all time.
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yes, Kai has a nice package
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phill wins.... imo
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phill wins.... imo
Ahhh, welcome to my side...but then again, I'm starting to pull for Kai...Mr. O has always been about the most freakiest---Haney, Dorian, Ronnie for example, they lost their path with Jay, Kai at this moment seems to be a good starting point...he is the closest thing today to Ronnie freakiness...as I said, "the closest"....Phil has "the look", he plays the good spoiler, the Flex Wheeler, Kev Levrone, Shawn Rat of his day. He is the one you are pulling for...but we know deep down, he ain't gonna get it...
I've been a fan of Phil since he came on the scene...he has the persona, and if he could market himself right, he could take off to other segments...
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ronnie looked good freaky....
have you looked at kais front double bi
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ronnie looked good freaky....
have you looked at kais front double bi
Yes, I know, I know---that is why I said, he is the closest we have now...
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naw people need to stop comparing him with coleman.....
looks like shit in comparision
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naw people need to stop comparing him with coleman.....
looks like shit in comparision
The comparison is inevitable. Due to the fact that Kai is freakily muscled, and has a highly detailed back, and of course, black. And if he becomes Mr. O, then there will be more comparisons. Now, Phil was compared to Flex and Kev as well, due to his arms, the way he does that clasping MM shot, and his back detail.
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Kai.
Enough of these threads please. Jesus christ ! It's like your startin' a new thread everyday, but just re-wordin' the title. Goddamn, muthafucka !
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Kai will rape Phil like a nice juicy grapefruit.
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Kai will rape Phil like a nice juicy grapefruit.
LOL!
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two fat musclemen when it comes down to it
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Kai is the farrrr better bodybuilder.
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I would rather look like Phil any day of the week
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what is gh15's name for Kai?
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what is gh15's name for Kai?
"this kia fella"
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what is gh15's name for Kai?
Gorilla black?
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Phil Heath has much more of a "freaky" thing going on than Kai, when I looked at the pictures in this thread I cleared my mind and tried to see them from a fresh perspective- and when I did, my FIRST reaction was "WOW, PHIL FUCKING HEATH LOOKS AMAZING!" But after some analysis, it's pretty clear Kai has much better balance and an overall more complete physique.
In simpler terms- to the average fan, Phil Heath should be Mr. Olympia,, but from a more advanced set of eyes, Kai is a clear winner. CLEAR winner.
Kai needs to be off like last year for Phil to beat him, IMO.
Now I say this with one caveat- Phil Heath has had time to improve. He has also proven that he can make AMAZING gains in a very short period of time. So, the Kai of 2011 New York Pro beats the Phil Heath of the 2010 Olympia, of that much I am sure. How does each 2011 self compare, we shall see...
I will likely make this years Olympia, just to see this. I hope I am not disappointed...
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Phil Heath has much more of a "freaky" thing going on than Kai, when I looked at the pictures in this thread I cleared my mind and tried to see them from a fresh perspective- and when I did, my FIRST reaction was "WOW, PHIL FUCKING HEATH LOOKS AMAZING!" But after some analysis, it's pretty clear Kai has much better balance and an overall more complete physique.
In simpler terms- to the average fan, Phil Heath should be Mr. Olympia,, but from a more advanced set of eyes, Kai is a clear winner. CLEAR winner.
Kai needs to be off like last year for Phil to beat him, IMO.
Now I say this with one caveat- Phil Heath has had time to improve. He has also proven that he can make AMAZING gains in a very short period of time. So, the Kai of 2011 New York Pro beats the Phil Heath of the 2010 Olympia, of that much I am sure. How does each 2011 self compare, we shall see...
I will likely make this years Olympia, just to see this. I hope I am not disappointed...
"In simpler terms- to the average fan, Phil Heath should be Mr. Olympia,, but from a more advanced set of eyes, Kai is a clear winner. CLEAR winner."...This
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i dont know how anyone can take phil seriously after that most muscular shot circulating around... the one with about five other top ranking bodybuilders.
his delts, in that shot, are wider than the rest of his torso, LOL.
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yes, Kai has a nice package
;D
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Phil looks much better IMO. Cool arms and not so retarded looking.
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You can't be the best bodybuilder in the world with good arms only. ::)
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how the hell could philsulin headth be one of the best of all time? with clavicles like that he can have all the muscle in the world but he will never look great cause he is as small as a figure competitor? and Kaj has a wide midsection and therefore look small due total lack of v taper.
this is what a top (black) bodybuilder look like.
(http://www.got-big.de/Blog/orville.jpg)
(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/catalog/Burke%201.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SvveH1avcbI/AAAAAAAAB-Q/_U0fWIaNCmI/s400/Orville+Burke+at+the+2000+Mr.+Olympia.JPG)
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/colema03.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman33.jpg)
(http://www.iwannafile.com/img_store/0/37/9/10.jpg)
(http://www.fitness-worldwide.com/images/downloads/video/Ronnie%20Coleman%20Mr.%20Olympia%202001_scr.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/150/images/Paul_Dillet_photo114.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HyTrqRkED1g/TcwUN6uN00I/AAAAAAAACe0/h40mnWpg4P8/s1600/mro2002_levrone.jpg)
(http://gallery.steelfactor.ru/albums/levrone_kevin/levrone_kevin_69.jpg)
you guys must be smoking some heavy toxic shit with them as best bbers of all time. get a life
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You can't be the best bodybuilder in the world with good arms only. ::)
of course not, but let's just say it does help ;D
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of course not, but let's just say it does help ;D
Hi Philsulin.
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Phil looks much better IMO. Cool arms and not so retarded looking.
LOLOLOLOLOL !!!! Wait a minute ....... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL !!!!!!!!!
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LOLOLOLOLOL !!!! Wait a minute ....... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL !!!!!!!!!
I know man, I know...
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As a fan, I want to say Philsulin.
Judging from the IFBB judging standard, Kai wins.
I think thats pretty accurate of things, who wins is gonna be determined by which way the judges are going to go... Going by their track record, Kai is going to win, they always seem to go with the complete conditioned mass monster over the guy with the full muscle bellies and small joints, See Dorian vs. Wheeler, Ray, Levrone, etc, Coleman vs. Wheeler, Levrone, Ray, etc, Arnold vs Sergio, etc.
People like to say that the IFBB judging is all over the place, but if you really look at the O, theyre pretty consistent with which physique type they reward.
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Paul Dillet say's : "I don't look like this anymore"
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In personal opinion yes they could be.
In real bodybuilding terms of judging a physique they are not even close to the top.
Judgment cannot be and is not based purely on size or shape. It is a combination of all important things: size, shape, proportion, development, overall looks and even things such as skin, posing, charisma, how well the body suits the face and general overall feeling that a bodybuilder gives off.
In may of those things Phil and Kai do not even come close to being compared to the top guys: Oliva, Arnold, Zane, Haney, Ronnie and many not Mr. O's like Platz, Flex, Franco, Ray and many others.
Just like with big trucks, people are mesmerised by sheer size and often forget that being the best in something means haveing all the little details that others don't have. Examples are fine cars, sigars, watches, women, shoes, houses, art and basically all other top things in their categories. Mona Lisa is not world famous for it's use of 'wow colours' or it's big size.
Perfection is in details and todays generation of bodybuilders have lost touch with all the fine details and concentrate purely on being as massive as possible and showing round muscles. That's thinking of a 16 year old wanting to impress a girl and not a professional wanting to be the best in is field.
Like comparing USA with Italy, Mass vs.Artfull Details.
Good post.
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A 100% Kai will beat a 100% Phil with the current judging standards.
Kai is too dense, striated to hell and actually starting to get a
grainier look after working with Farrah.
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More screen stills...
The lighting has been slightly adjusted
on the guest posing stills but not the contest stills.
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i dont know how anyone can take phil seriously after that most muscular shot circulating around... the one with about five other top ranking bodybuilders.
his delts, in that shot, are wider than the rest of his torso, LOL.
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt241/donleopoldo/7351-1.jpg)