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Which gives more gains
And why?
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Train your fucking legs ffs
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twice, especially if on the juice. you're most likely doing them twice already. remember, bi's are being worked when you hit back indirectly, as are tri's when you hit shoulders.
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I say once.
You hit biceps indirectly on your back day... and you hit triceps indirectly on chest day and on shoulder's day.
Should be plenty for the week.
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Twice if I have time works best for me......not sure why.
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jeez man it doesn't matter... you stimulate, you annihilate, you wait, you train them again...
do you seriously believe we will ever, in our lifetime, have a thorough enough understanding of human physiology to be able to definitively answer these sort of questions?!
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the growth is to slow to decide what works better, once or twice a week. at one point you just dont grow that much more.
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I say once.
You hit biceps indirectly on your back day... and you hit triceps indirectly on chest day and on shoulder's day.
Should be plenty for the week.
so do you hit them on one day... eg an arm day? and when in the week beginning or end
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jeez man it doesn't matter... you stimulate, you annihilate, you wait, you train them again...
do you seriously believe we will ever, in our lifetime, have a thorough enough understanding of human physiology to be able to definitively answer these sort of questions?!
haha
if you hit back and bi's and if 3 days later they're not sore at all, you're free to do them. that simple. never train muscles when they're sore, unless it's cardio based. like doing eliptical even though ur legs are sore from squatting the day before. no resisitance training. you're good to go
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jeez man it doesn't matter... you stimulate, you annihilate, you wait, you train them again...
do you seriously believe we will ever, in our lifetime, have a thorough enough understanding of human physiology to be able to definitively answer these sort of questions?!
im looking for opinions... and thoughts... its how one learns
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back and bi's or whole arm in one workout?
low reps or high reps?
:o
in the end it won't matter genetics/hormones will decide.
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Do you really think it matters?
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Train each body part twice per week
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I prefer to hit them twice a week. Not sure why it works better, it just does for me.
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this guy said every two to three weeks is enuff
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so do you hit them on one day... eg an arm day? and when in the week beginning or end
Yes, an arm day. Always at the end of the week, after everything else is trained. I have it then bc arms grow pretty easily for me. If they were a lagging part, i may put them closer to the beginning of the week, when i'm not so tired.
Triceps first, then biceps. I never superset the two muscles together either Mes.
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not a lagging bodypart but my chest and back is quite big im looking.. too give my arms a bit more size and quality..
so whats your weekly split
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this guy said every two to three weeks is enuff
He's not wrong either. Arms are just shy of 19 inches cold and I never train them directly more often than that.
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That question is completely ambiguous and subjective.
So many other variables are going to decide what's best for you. How many times you work them in a week is the least important.
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If you're looking to make them bigger, maybe add some different exercises and switch up the routine a bit. THis should help.
My split is:
Monday: chest/calves
Tues: Back
Wedn: Hams/quads/calves (in that order)
Thurs: Shoulders
Fri: Triceps/biceps.
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IMO nothing works better on a stubborn body part than supersetting with reps between 8-12.
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TRAIN IT AS OFTEN AS IT CAN RECOVER.
^ THERE, THATS YOUR SECRET.
WANT TO BOOST RECOVERY? EAT HIGH PROTEIN, BE IN WAY ABOVE OPTIMAL HORMONE RANGE, AND SLEEP.
I GO LOW VOLUME, HIGH FREQUENCY ON EVERYTHING BESIDES DELTS & BACK. THERE I GO MODERATE VOLUME, AND MODERATE FREQUENCY. THOSE RESPOND DIFFERENTLY FOR ME. THEY WERE WIDE BEFORE I TOUCHED A WEIGHT IN RELATION TO MY BODY.
MY ARMS SUCKED. AT 170, I WAS ABOUT 14 INCHES. I STARTED TRAINING THEM MORE OFTEN, BUT LIKE 1-2-3 SETS DEPENDING ON MY ENERGY PER...JUST DIPS AND DB CURLS. NOW IM SITTING AT ABOVE 16.5 BUT IM ALSO 25 POUNDS HEAVIER. THERE ALSO IN BETTER CONDITION.
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this guy said every two to three weeks is enuff
I was curling that druggies weight when i weighed 160lb. Once every two-three weeks is a joke.
Interesting thread though, my strength goes up but i am not putting on arm size.
I train back three times a week as well as curls twice a week, different days, i would say overtraining but strength is going up. ???
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If you're looking to make them bigger, maybe add some different exercises and switch up the routine a bit. THis should help.
My split is:
Monday: chest/calves
Tues: Back
Wedn: Hams/quads/calves (in that order)
Thurs: Shoulders
Fri: Triceps/biceps.
excellent split i can see the logis push then pull... then legs gives the upperbody time to rest then shoulders folowed by arms
i think Ill train back on monday then chest give my lower back time to recover for squats on wdnesday...
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Exactly. I like the give the upperbody that day off by hitting legs in between.
Sometimes i do switch back day with chest day.
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Day 1 - chest/back, calves/abs
Day 2- shoulders/arms
Day 3- legs, abs
Repeat.
Sundays off.
That's one of MANY splits. Basics and to the point.
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Day 1 - chest/back, calves/abs
Day 2- shoulders/arms
Day 3- legs, abs
Repeat.
Sundays off.
That's one of MANY splits. Basics and to the point.
sloppy. this would be only best for mixing it up. not as a staple
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twice, especially if on the juice. you're most likely doing them twice already. remember, bi's are being worked when you hit back indirectly, as are tri's when you hit shoulders.
DEPENDS 0N THE SPLIT. N0T IF Y0U D0 A PUSH PULL SPLIT.
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Day 1 - chest/back, calves/abs
Day 2- shoulders/arms
Day 3- legs, abs
Repeat.
Sundays off.
That's one of MANY splits. Basics and to the point.
I've used this split, its great. Another one I like is pretty much the same first 3 days as this one, then legs on friday, whole upper body on saturday. That way I can have 2 rest days a week instead of 1.
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I was curling that druggies weight when i weighed 160lb. Once every two-three weeks is a joke.
Interesting thread though, my strength goes up but i am not putting on arm size.
I train back three times a week as well as curls twice a week, different days, i would say overtraining but strength is going up. ???
you dont train tris?
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Day 1 - chest/back, calves/abs
Day 2- shoulders/arms
Day 3- legs, abs
Repeat.
Sundays off.
That's one of MANY splits. Basics and to the point.
whats the volume like in this split... less volume because you work each muscle group twice?
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If you're looking to make them bigger, maybe add some different exercises and switch up the routine a bit. THis should help.
My split is:
Monday: chest/calves
Tues: Back
Wedn: Hams/quads/calves (in that order)
Thurs: Shoulders
Fri: Triceps/biceps.
Just my opinion but I don't rate that split at all - training five days in a row? Unless you're on a boatload of gear that would destroy a natty - where's the rest time to let your body recover and grow? Better off training every other day giving the whole body a chance to recover after each workout day - I've been talking about it today on the training forum and I firmly believe this is the way to go.
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you dont train tris?
Yeah on chest day, twice a week.
I have been doing a shit load of cardio lately and have an insane metabolism anyway i think i need to up the calories.
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I just about always Super-Set arms at the end of the week.
At times I`ll cut sets and do Giant-Sets also...............fucki ng intensity at its best.
Once a week for me is cool.
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whats the volume like in this split... less volume because you work each muscle group twice?
If you aren't used to training body parts with that frequency, then I'd say yes lower the volume first to adapt to it. Then you could probably up it again.
Personally, I do just a moderate amount of volume each session. The typical 20-30 set workout twice a week would be overkill for me.
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Day 1 - chest/back, calves/abs
Day 2- shoulders/arms
Day 3- legs, abs
Repeat.
Sundays off.
That's one of MANY splits. Basics and to the point.
Old school split!!
I`d actually throw legs on the middle day just for a days rest of the upperbody.
Arnold and the boys used this one as a staple.
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Meso, exept for main lifts I keep the volume high, ex: 15-17 sets for chest, 18-23 sets for lower body, heavy lifts are 8-10 reps other lifts are 8-15 reps.
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Joe,you still train everything 2 x a week?
I`m thinking about doing an old school split like the one you posted for my show in 6 weeks.
What`s your opinion...........will it work for me,get me denser and tighter?
Thanks my friend.
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Old school split!!
I`d actually throw legs on the middle day just for a days rest of the upperbody.
Arnold and the boys used this one as a staple.
NAW ARN0LD DIDN'T D0 THAT. HE WENT T0 THE GYM 6 DAYS A WEEK W0RKING EACH MUSCLE 3X A WEEK. THE 80'S GUYS DID THAT.
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Forgot to mention,that I`m hinking of trying it at 4 weeks out.
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NAW ARN0LD DIDN'T D0 THAT. HE WENT T0 THE GYM 6 DAYS A WEEK W0RKING EACH MUSCLE 3X A WEEK. THE 80'S GUYS DID THAT.
Wrong my friend.
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Absolutely Wes it will, especially with the higher volume. You might have to adjust your diet to compensate for the higher volume.
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Will give it a shot at 4 weeks out,and up the macros.
Thanks Joe! :)
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Monday - chest
tuesday - arms
wednesday - chest
thursday - arms
friday - chest
saturday - arms
sunday - chest
repeat but next monday do arms
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Wrong my friend.
ARN0LD NEVER DID A 3 DAY 0N 1 DAY 0FF READ HIS B00KS.
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No,he trained 6 days a week and took Sundays off.
Mon-Thurs.-Chest + Back
Tues-Fri.-Shoulders,and arms
Wed.-Sat.-Legs
Sun.-OFF
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No,he trained 6 days a week and took Sundays off.
Mon-Thurs.-Chest + Back
Tues-Fri.-Shoulders,and arms
Wed.-Sat.-Legs
Sun.-OFF
EVERY S0URCE I HAVE SAYS THE 0PP0SITE. EACH MUSCLE GR0UP WAS TRAINED 3X A WEEK. HIS B00KS SAID THE SAME EXACT R0UTINE.
http://muscleandbrawn.com/arnold-schwarzeneggers-workout-routine/
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Checked out your link............I think that has to be wrong!!
Doing that amount of training in one day would kill a person in about a month.
Maybe you`re right but that`s a crazy ass workload......must have taken a whole fuckin day to complete. ;D
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EVERY S0URCE I HAVE SAYS THE 0PP0SITE. EACH MUSCLE GR0UP WAS TRAINED 3X A WEEK. HIS B00KS SAID THE SAME EXACT R0UTINE.
http://muscleandbrawn.com/arnold-schwarzeneggers-workout-routine/
hahahaah, i hope you don't believe that bullshit.
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Monday - chest
tuesday - arms
wednesday - chest
thursday - arms
friday - chest
saturday - arms
sunday - chest
repeat but next monday do arms
:D ;D
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hahahaah, i hope you don't believe that bullshit.
I BELIEVE IT M0RE THAN A MADE UP S0URCE.
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Checked out your link............I think that has to be wrong!!
Doing that amount of training in one day would kill a person in about a month.
Maybe you`re right but that`s a crazy ass workload......must have taken a whole fuckin day to complete. ;D
HIS B00KS SAID THE SAME THING. EVERY S0URCE 0N ARN0LD WAS THAT SAME R0UTINE. THE REAS0N HE G0T AWAY WITH IT WAS HE WAS NEVER USING MASSIVE AM0UNTS 0F WEIGHT.
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Day 1 = Calves/Chest/Back
Day 2 = Legs/Abs
Day 3 = Rest
Day 4 = Calves/Bi's/Tri's
Day 5 = Rest
Repeat.......
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Day 1 - Chest (some Tris like two exercises 3 sets each) , Abs
Day 2 - Back (bis, same thing two exercises 3 sets) . Traps
Day 3- Quads, Calvs
Day 4- Rest
Day 5- Shoulders/Tris
Day 6- Hams, Abs, Bis and forearms
Day7- rest
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This has given me the most gains and has brought my arms up considerably.. also gives them enuf rest in between sessions.
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Day 1 - Chest (some Tris like two exercises 3 sets each) , Abs
Day 2 - Back (bis, same thing two exercises 3 sets) . Traps
Day 3- Quads, Calvs
Day 4- Rest
Day 5- Shoulders/Tris
Day 6- Hams, Abs, Bis and forearms
Day7- rest
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This has given me the most gains and has brought my arms up considerably.. also gives them enuf rest in between sessions.
what excersises would you typically use for tris on day one
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Do you guys who train each part 2 x a week,have a heavy then lighter session?
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@wes definitly lighter on the chest day ...just getting an extra pump
@meso...day 1 cable press down and some machine at my gym that mimics overheads.. (i do dips too on chest day)
on the shoulder tri day I do skulls, close grips...the heavy ish..
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Thanks Jae. :)
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Thanks Jae. :)
You know more about BB than 99% of the board ...
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Day 1 - Chest/front/side delts, calves
Day 2 - Back/rear delt/traps, abs
Day 3 - Bicep/Tricep/Hamstrings, calves
Day 4 - Quads, lowback, abs
Day 5 - Rest
repeat.
just another split.
You can 4 on 1 off
3 on 1 off
6 days on 1 day off
and on and on and on.
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Exactly. I like the give the upperbody that day off by hitting legs in between.
Sometimes i do switch back day with chest day.
Yup...that's the type of split people who have a clue use
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You know more about BB than 99% of the board ...
Possibly,but I got shit genetics. :(
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I train chest with biceps
I train back with triceps.
This way my biceps and triceps are hit "twice" in the week and they feel pumped throughout the week.
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haha i only train my arms with masterbation sessions and they still look more impressive than most of these clowns here haha.
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ONCE and only. bis and tris in the same workout.
And thats IF you want arms...
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Monday - Squats
Wednesday - Military Press
Friday - Deads
Sunday - Bench Press
Plus various assistance work of your choosing. Hits biceps at every turn.
What else is there?
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splits are possibly the least useful thing to ever be discussed...
how can you tell a single thing about a split if you never look at the other variables at the same time? in fact, this is the biggest problem when people talk about training in general. they always talk about one or two things at a time, with no reference to the rest of it. is doing 5 sets for arms good? ten? fifteen? how about twice a week? three times? once? ALL of these things can be good or bad... it depends on how you set up everything else though!
of course its fine to talk specifics, but you ALWAYS have to connect these back into the system, and view the "big picture" at the end.
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this months MD i think its the wolf article where he writes he never trains them more than once a week and that when he did his arms would grow
everyone should try what works for them as your diet, drugs, way you train and age and 15 other factors might mean more is better, in most cases it isnt
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Some people think they don't need direct arm work at all..
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If you're looking to make them bigger, maybe add some different exercises and switch up the routine a bit. THis should help.
My split is:
Monday: chest/calves
Tues: Back
Wedn: Hams/quads/calves (in that order)
Thurs: Shoulders
Fri: Triceps/biceps.
pretty much what I follow :)
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If you're looking to make them bigger, maybe add some different exercises and switch up the routine a bit. THis should help.
My split is:
Monday: chest/calves
Tues: Back
Wedn: Hams/quads/calves (in that order)
Thurs: Shoulders
Fri: Triceps/biceps.
Why would you do Legs after a back workout?
Take a day off or substitute Legs for shoulders.
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Why would you do Legs after a back workout?
Take a day off or substitute Legs for shoulders.
yeah I do back monday chest on tues then legs - cant train legs and back a day after the other - totaly blasts me - and Im on gear - great to see all these nattys on here with surperior recovery skills ::)
fact: the stronger you get the more recovery you need so Mes being on par with alot of heavy juicers in regards to strengh and he is natural makes him one of the guys with the most elite genetics on planet earth ::)
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splits are possibly the least useful thing to ever be discussed...
how can you tell a single thing about a split if you never look at the other variables at the same time? in fact, this is the biggest problem when people talk about training in general. they always talk about one or two things at a time, with no reference to the rest of it. is doing 5 sets for arms good? ten? fifteen? how about twice a week? three times? once? ALL of these things can be good or bad... it depends on how you set up everything else though!
of course its fine to talk specifics, but you ALWAYS have to connect these back into the system, and view the "big picture" at the end.
You must be a monster .. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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A good routine(Im using this one currently)
Mon-Chest
Tues-Back
Wed-Legs
Thurs-Shoulders
Fri-Arms
To find a happy medium between hitting arms once a week or twice a week,youcould always do a exercise for triceps on monday and one for biceps on tuesday, probably about 4-5 sets, at the end of the workout. BTW I just supersetting chinups and dips at the beginning of my arm workout, great power movements, intensity and pump to start off my workout with
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ONCE and only. bis and tris in the same workout.
And thats IF you want arms...
you must be massive.
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you must be massive.
Actually I am, thanks for asking. 8)
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Seriously:
Best 4 way split
Mo chest and bi
Tue legs
We rest
Thu should/tri
Fr back
Sa rest
So rest or start cycle again.
Dr Dutch explains: chest/bi and legs no overlap, rest after hardest workout (legs)
should/tri and back no or minimal overlap, rest after hardest workout (back)
Legs get secundary at back day (deads)
Arms get secundary at chest day (tri) and back day (bis)
Start shoulders with militaries for secundary chest work.
Back gets secundary with sldl at legs day.
No shit
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yeah I do back monday chest on tues then legs - cant train legs and back a day after the other - totaly blasts me - and Im on gear - great to see all these nattys on here with surperior recovery skills ::)
fact: the stronger you get the more recovery you need so Mes being on par with alot of heavy juicers in regards to strengh and he is natural makes him one of the guys with the most elite genetics on planet earth ::)
yes thats a better order.. cant do legs after back. Im honored though to post on this site beside genetic marvels. :D
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Seriously:
Best 4 way split
Mo chest and bi
Tue legs
We rest
Thu should/tri
Fr back
Sa rest
So rest or start cycle again.
Dr Dutch explains: chest/bi and legs no overlap, rest after hardest workout (legs)
should/tri and back no or minimal overlap, rest after hardest workout (back)
Legs get secundary at back day (deads)
Arms get secundary at chest day (tri) and back day (bis)
Start shoulders with militaries for secundary chest work.
Back gets secundary with sldl at legs day.
No shit
Hi Dorian.
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Hi Dorian.
He got it from me. (use more volume though, and not his tendon-ripping to failure)
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He got it from me. (use more volume though, and not his tendon-ripping to failure)
:)
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I do v v light bi's after back. And light tris after chest.
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I've never ever liked the "you're arms are worked during back and chest/shoulders" argument. It's true they are hit but indirectly hit. However, I don't feel anyone that trains arms this way is training optimally and getting results unless they're a pharmacological specimen.
I usually hit arms all their own, and I have two splits I alternate using depending on volume of my workout and if I'm leaning up or lifting heavier:
Day one: Back and Chest
Day two: Legs (quads, hams and calves)
Day three is rest day
Day four: Shoulders, triceps and biceps.
Day five is a rest day, and day six you repeat the cycle over again, allowing the body to rest and train 5x/wk. Cardio is done for 15min after weights.
The second split I use, allows for more volume per body part, less time in the weight pit and a little more cardio, still done after my weight routine for about 20-25min:
Day one: Back, traps and rear delts
Day two: Chest and abs
Day three: Quads and calves
Day four rest
Day five: Triceps and biceps
Day six: Hamstrings and shoulders
Day seven: rest.
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My question would be this. How many total sets and reps per body part? Surely it must differ on an individual basis as well as for those that train with what nature dealt them versus what Farmacia Vida mailed them. ;D
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The second split I use, allows for more volume per body part, less time in the weight pit and a little more cardio, still done after my weight routine for about 20-25min:
I may be a sissy but I never manage to do cardio after weights.
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I like the splits where arm da is toward the end of the week .. so they get two days of rest
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Train your fucking legs ffs
X 2
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My question would be this. How many total sets and reps per body part? Surely it must differ on an individual basis as well as for those that train with what nature dealt them versus what Farmacia Vida mailed them. ;D
For me, volume is always changing. It's the aspect that most miss out in regards to the HIT Vs Volume training debate; I always change volume up. Depending on lift/exercise, how many reps per set/exercise, how much volume per body part or what my rest period is (which will also change given the exact factors I just listed for volume).
Usually when doing the second split listed, I'm doing more sets per exercise, more rest and a bit less reps. But when I'm doing the later sets of a body part (say flyes for 10 reps, after I've done flat DB pressed and Incline BB press for 5-7reps) I will go a bit higher in reps-a number of reason behind this.
I may be a sissy but I never manage to do cardio after weights.
I always separated the cardio from weights, then I started a job that had me awake anywhere from 2:30am to 4am. I said "I will be damned if I wake up at midnight and go running around the block!" and my gym owner at the time suggested I tried doing cardio right after my weights, after all, that's how he trained his clients. I gave it a try, and have never looked back since. Even doing legs, I may slow the pace or lessen the incline as I walk, but I still find this is the best way to do cardio given my lifestyle.
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Seriously:
Best 4 way split
Mo chest and bi
Tue legs
We rest
Thu should/tri
Fr back
Sa rest
So rest or start cycle again.
Dr Dutch explains: chest/bi and legs no overlap, rest after hardest workout (legs)
should/tri and back no or minimal overlap, rest after hardest workout (back)
Legs get secundary at back day (deads)
Arms get secundary at chest day (tri) and back day (bis)
Start shoulders with militaries for secundary chest work.
Back gets secundary with sldl at legs day.
No shit
Great split I been doing it for over 15 yrs.......try doing a few light sets of tri's after biceps and after tri's do a few light high rep sets for biceps and finish both arm days with 1-2 brachialis exercises
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Do you guys who train each part 2 x a week,have a heavy then lighter session?
well not "light", but the second one is supersets and giants sets
the first time is more heavy work with more rest
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well not "light", but the second one is supersets and giants sets
the first time is more heavy work with more rest
Cool,I never go "light" myself but using intensity techniques like you posted makes you have to go lighter,but less rest makes it a mothrtf ucker.
Thanks bro. :)
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agree i find light training a waste of time
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Cool,I never go "light" myself but using intensity techniques like you posted makes you have to go lighter,but less rest makes it a mothrtf ucker.
Thanks bro. :)
these days I prefer supersets because I don't really feel like training to it makes me "in the zone" much more than taking 10 minutes break talking between sets !
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Possibly,but I got shit genetics. :(
Genetics don't matter; bbing is all hard work and nutrition.
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Genetics don't matter; bbing is all hard work and nutrition. drugs
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jeez man it doesn't matter... you stimulate, you annihilate, you wait, you train them again...
do you seriously believe we will ever, in our lifetime, have a thorough enough understanding of human physiology to be able to definitively answer these sort of questions?!
Exactly BUT i myself would say train them only ONCE a week, especially if your on the juice. HIT EM and HIT EM HARD. Remember, you muscle tissue/body only grows when your NOT training.
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Which gives more gains
And why?
I prefer to train them on pushing and pulling days ie chest and triceps ,back and biceps.
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I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE WHOLE CHEST AND TRIS......OR EVEN SHOULDERS AND TRIS THING
WHY WOULD ANYONE TRAIN BIS AFTER BACK.....OR TRIS AFTER CHEST OR DELTS????
WHY NOT JUST WORK THE BIS AND TRIS TOGETHER.....YOUR TRIS HAVE TO BE FATIGUED LIKE CRAZY AFTER A CHEST OR SHOULDER SESSION......WHAT GIVES HERE????
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Agreed.
Arms all on the same day with direct stimulation.
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I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE WHOLE CHEST AND TRIS......OR EVEN SHOULDERS AND TRIS THING
WHY WOULD ANYONE TRAIN BIS AFTER BACK.....OR TRIS AFTER CHEST OR DELTS????
WHY NOT JUST WORK THE BIS AND TRIS TOGETHER.....YOUR TRIS HAVE TO BE FATIGUED LIKE CRAZY AFTER A CHEST OR SHOULDER SESSION......WHAT GIVES HERE????
EXACTLY. Triceps are located on your arms, not chest or delts. If your gonna throw another body part in on chest day, do back......and train it FIRST. Thats what im doing right now, Back/chest........shoulders/traps...........Legs/arms. Works well for me.
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^^^^ LOL ur shoulders/traps day must be super super short in comparison to the other days
arms do get hit quite a bit on other exercises so they should be treated gently but direct work is still beneficial
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The routine I do calls for training arms once a week on Mondays. Throughout the week when you train back and chest, you'll also be training your arms. On this routine, my arms grew a little over an inch in about six months. My arms are slow growers....I was ecstatic! Can't wait to get back too it next Monday after a little more than two months off.
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I would say no more than twice a week.....you must keep in mind the bis get hit with back and tris get worked on chest day and delt day.
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I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE WHOLE CHEST AND TRIS......OR EVEN SHOULDERS AND TRIS THING
WHY WOULD ANYONE TRAIN BIS AFTER BACK.....OR TRIS AFTER CHEST OR DELTS????
WHY NOT JUST WORK THE BIS AND TRIS TOGETHER.....YOUR TRIS HAVE TO BE FATIGUED LIKE CRAZY AFTER A CHEST OR SHOULDER SESSION......WHAT GIVES HERE????
UMM THIS WAY Y0U'RE W0RKING THE PUSH MUSCLES LESS 0FTEN LEAVING THEM M0RE TIME T0 REC0VER. IF Y0U D0 BACK AND TRIS, Y0U'RE W0RKING THE TRICEPS 3 TIMES A WEEK WITH CHEST AND SH0ULDERS 0N 0THER DAYS. THIS WAY BY D0ING PUSH T0GETHER Y0U W0RK THEM 0NCE 0R TWICE A WEEK LEAVING M0RE R00M F0R GR0WTH. EASIER 0N THE J0INTS. ALS0, Y0UR TRICEPS ARE W0RKING AT A MUCH HIGHER INTENSITY LEADING T0 M0RE GR0WTH AFTER CHEST AND DELTS AS 0PP0SED T0 W0RKING THEM BY THEMSELVES.
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WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD A GREAT BICEPS WORKOUT AFTER BLASTING YOUR BACK?
SAME GOES WITH TRIS AFTER CHEST.......QUIT WITH YOUR THEORIES ON RECOVERY.....THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU CAN GET A SUFFICIENT TRICEPS WORKOUT AFTER CHEST OR SHOULDERS.
YOUR TRIS GET WORKED INDIRECTLY AND SO THEY ARE QUITE FATIGUED AT THE END OF A CHEST OR DELT SESSION.
MY .02
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I may be a sissy but I never manage to do cardio after weights.
Yes. You are a sissy! But then so am I most of the time. I hate cardio. I really have to psyche myself up for it. When I read somewhere that riding a stationary bike or climbing the stair stepper actually helps build leg muscle, I got more interested in cardio. I just can never seem to get over my skinny beginnings even though it has been decades since I was thin.
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once a week, always together bis and tris. It will get you big arms.
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once a week, always together bis and tris. It will get you big arms.
Good! Because that is what I am doing. It's the first muscle group of the week, so I am really fresh when I train them.
Now explain this, a week or so ago I measured my arms and they were slightly over 17". Last night I measured them again and they were only 16 3/4". How is that possible? I have not lost any weight. Still weigh 214 same as a week ago. WTF? I am pissed.
Note: I have really long arms. Yes, just like an ape. My sleeve length is between 35 and 36". I am only 5'11" tall with relatively short legs....fucking genetics.
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Good! Because that is what I am doing. It's the first muscle group of the week, so I am really fresh when I train them.
Now explain this, a week or so ago I measured my arms and they were slightly over 17". Last night I measured them again and they were only 16 3/4". How is that possible? I have not lost any weight. Still weigh 214 same as a week ago. WTF? I am pissed.
Note: I have really long arms. Yes, just like an ape. My sleeve length is between 35 and 36". I am only 5'11" tall with relatively short legs....fucking genetics.
happens to me all the time, I think its normal to be flat on some days, while others fuller..
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Twice a week has given me my best results but right now I only have time for once a week.
...used to be-Mon-chest,bi's-Tue-back,tri's-Fri-arms
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WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD A GREAT BICEPS WORKOUT AFTER BLASTING YOUR BACK?
SAME GOES WITH TRIS AFTER CHEST.......QUIT WITH YOUR THEORIES ON RECOVERY.....THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU CAN GET A SUFFICIENT TRICEPS WORKOUT AFTER CHEST OR SHOULDERS.
YOUR TRIS GET WORKED INDIRECTLY AND SO THEY ARE QUITE FATIGUED AT THE END OF A CHEST OR DELT SESSION.
MY .02
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