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WHATS THE POINT OF ADDING IN COMPOUNDS LIKE PRIMO, DECA, EQ, ETC.
I SEE THE REASON FOR TREN. BUT WHY USE ANY OTHER COMPOUND BUT TEST, TREN, AND MASTERON? TAKE AWAY TREN & MASTERON IF YOUR NOT COMPETING, SO WHY NOT JUST TEST?
IF I NEED TO UP THE DOSE, WHAT GOOD IS IT TO ADD THAT DOSAGE WORTH OF EQ THAN IT IS TEST? WOULDNT UPPING THE DOSE WITH JUST TEST BE OPTIMAL?
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it depends on your goals but for general size it will work
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dont forget all that stuff that u said primo, EQ, deca is anabolics ;) so figure it out ;)
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oh I know that but im still at this point using test only it works I do know that. My goals have became different I wanna be a freak now Im 34 so I have to do it now or never lol
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tes only is fine. did it for a year and half. now im using deca only and it works good too. no reason to stack roids, one is enough.
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tes only is fine. did it for a year and half. now im using deca only and it works good too. no reason to stack roids, one is enough.
For how many weeks are you going to run deca? mg's?
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tes only is fine. did it for a year and half. now im using deca only and it works good too. no reason to stack roids, one is enough.
I've never understood why anyone would want to run deca alone, I know people do it but it doesn't make sense to me. A mere 100mg shot of Nandrolone is enough to completely suppress all natural testosterone production, no matter how special someone believes they may be this is guaranteed. So what's the advantage in your opinion?
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will you even gain anything on 100mgs deca a week?
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For how many weeks are you going to run deca? mg's?
till i run out :D
im all out of omnadrens, which i had been running for the past year, and i dont have any other juice. found a bottle of home brewed deca left over so im using it. when i brewed it originally i made it at 500mg/ml. i tried using it at that strength, but it was leaving me sore as fuck for days. so i cut it in half with some cottonseed oil and im using 2 cc's mon-wed-fri. 1500mg per week??? if the powder i got was 100% legit... but me thinks its more like 750mg..
I've never understood why anyone would want to run deca alone, I know people do it but it doesn't make sense to me. A mere 100mg shot of Nandrolone is enough to completely suppress all natural testosterone production, no matter how special someone believes they may be this is guaranteed. So what's the advantage in your opinion?
read above... its working good.. and deca dick? fuck i wake up every morning rock hard and im horny all fuckin day long..
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till i run out :D
im all out of omnadrens, which i had been running for the past year, and i dont have any other juice. found a bottle of home brewed deca left over so im using it. when i brewed it originally i made it at 500mg/ml. i tried using it at that strength, but it was leaving me sore as fuck for days. so i cut it in half with some cottonseed oil and im using 2 cc's mon-wed-fri. 1500mg per week??? if the powder i got was 100% legit... but me thinks its more like 750mg..
read above... its working good.. and deca dick? fuck i wake up every morning rock hard and im horny all fuckin day long..
Cool, im on my 14th week running deca. Im thinking going till 16th or even more but im afraid recovery might be tough, :-X
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till i run out :D
im all out of omnadrens, which i had been running for the past year, and i dont have any other juice. found a bottle of home brewed deca left over so im using it. when i brewed it originally i made it at 500mg/ml. i tried using it at that strength, but it was leaving me sore as fuck for days. so i cut it in half with some cottonseed oil and im using 2 cc's mon-wed-fri. 1500mg per week??? if the powder i got was 100% legit... but me thinks its more like 750mg..
read above... its working good.. and deca dick? fuck i wake up every morning rock hard and im horny all fuckin day long..
The ability to wake up with an erection does not mean your test levels are high or even normal. As most of you know I haven't used any gear at all for over a year, I had my test levels checked about 2 months ago and my total test was 63...point being, even with test that low I've had no erectile dysfunction problems, erection every morning like normal. When you sleep a lot of blood goes to your penis regardless, this doesn't mean your test levels are high, it just means you don't have erectile dysfunction. Granted, low test levels can affect this but it won't always as I am living proof.
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The ability to wake up with an erection does not mean your test levels are high or even normal. As most of you know I haven't used any gear at all for over a year, I had my test levels checked about 2 months ago and my total test was 63...point being, even with test that low I've had no erectile dysfunction problems, erection every morning like normal. When you sleep a lot of blood goes to your penis regardless, this doesn't mean your test levels are high, it just means you don't have erectile dysfunction. Granted, low test levels can affect this but it won't always as I am living proof.
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my test levels are, of course, zero.
not sure what you getting at
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NO MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF USING EQ, PRIMO, DECA IN REPLACE OF ADDING MORE MG OF TEST?
SAY IM RUNNING 375MG TEST A WEEK. WHICH I AM. BUT I WANT TO TO ADD 250MG OF MORE AAS. WHY WOULD I CHOOSE DECA, EQ, PRIMO OVER TESTOSTERONE? WOULDNT TESTOSTERONE BE THE SAFIEST WAY TO GO AND PROBABLY THE BEST?
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my test levels are, of course, zero.
not sure what you getting at
I don't understand why anyone would want their test levels to be zero...why would you purposely allow that? That's what I don't understand.
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NO MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF USING EQ, PRIMO, DECA IN REPLACE OF ADDING MORE MG OF TEST?
SAY IM RUNNING 375MG TEST A WEEK. WHICH I AM. BUT I WANT TO TO ADD 250MG OF MORE AAS. WHY WOULD I CHOOSE DECA, EQ, PRIMO OVER TESTOSTERONE? WOULDNT TESTOSTERONE BE THE SAFIEST WAY TO GO AND PROBABLY THE BEST?
The benefit is largely the synergistic affect many steroids have with each other. In your case though, as your test dose is already very low a good choice might be to simply add in a little extra test and worry about other AAS later on down the road.
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NO MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF USING EQ, PRIMO, DECA IN REPLACE OF ADDING MORE MG OF TEST?
SAY IM RUNNING 375MG TEST A WEEK. WHICH I AM. BUT I WANT TO TO ADD 250MG OF MORE AAS. WHY WOULD I CHOOSE DECA, EQ, PRIMO OVER TESTOSTERONE? WOULDNT TESTOSTERONE BE THE SAFIEST WAY TO GO AND PROBABLY THE BEST?
theres differing views on this. imo you should try them all out, you never know, you might respond better to some and worse to others. stop using the ones u dont like, start using the ones you do. if you like test, stick with test. no reason to use anything else. some guys feel like adding roids together makes 1+1=3. but in reality 1+1 always =2. there is some exception tho. for example, some drugs give certain benefits but not others. like test does not give the aggression that tren does. tren doesnt give the water weight and estro levels that test does. (estro is a good thing for mass). winny gives good stamina but can "dry" the joints.. deca lubes the joints. halo gives strength but not mass. dbol is awesome but orals dont give very stable blood levels. etc. all these differences are real, but doont let that overcomplicate things for you, the ddifferences really are not very significant.
I don't understand why anyone would want their test levels to be zero...why would you purposely allow that? That's what I don't understand.
i dont want zero test levels. i just ran out of test. maybe you missed that earlier in the thread. im running deca only cuz its all i have ;D id be running test if i had some. that being said, theres nothign wrong with having zero test as lng as you got a bunch of other androgens in the body. and ya there is a situation in which one would want zero test... when looking to be as lean and as cut and dry as possible.
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I dont know about test but Anadrol is the most powerful compound I have run to date. Legit human grade turkish anapolon! not that British Disperency shit. Until you have tried the above at 100mg a day, dont comment!
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theres differing views on this. imo you should try them all out, you never know, you might respond better to some and worse to others. stop using the ones u dont like, start using the ones you do. if you like test, stick with test. no reason to use anything else. some guys feel like adding roids together makes 1+1=3. but in reality 1+1 always =2. there is some exception tho. for example, some drugs give certain benefits but not others. like test does not give the aggression that tren does. tren doesnt give the water weight and estro levels that test does. (estro is a good thing for mass). winny gives good stamina but can "dry" the joints.. deca lubes the joints. halo gives strength but not mass. dbol is awesome but orals dont give very stable blood levels. etc. all these differences are real, but doont let that overcomplicate things for you, the ddifferences really are not very significant.
i dont want zero test levels. i just ran out of test. maybe you missed that earlier in the thread. im running deca only cuz its all i have ;D id be running test if i had some. that being said, theres nothign wrong with having zero test as lng as you got a bunch of other androgens in the body. and ya there is a situation in which one would want zero test... when looking to be as lean and as cut and dry as possible.
Tbombz is there really a difference in the quality of powders when it comes to ugl vs hg? One guy uses 1000mg sustanon brewed in his basement and another guy uses a gram of normas, same results? Gh15 says differently, I know you have said differently after trying some Zafas out and saying you regret not using human grade all along. I always thought all that matters is the amount of hormone in the blood no?
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i dont want zero test levels. i just ran out of test. maybe you missed that earlier in the thread. im running deca only cuz its all i have ;D id be running test if i had some. that being said, theres nothign wrong with having zero test as lng as you got a bunch of other androgens in the body. and ya there is a situation in which one would want zero test... when looking to be as lean and as cut and dry as possible.
Personally I'd simply run nothing if all I had was deca but to each his own.
As far as no test = lean/cut/dry as possible, competitively speaking most who pull all test before a show get beat by goes who don't...not always but the majority. There is absolutely no reason, zero, none at all why one cannot be as dry and lean as possible with test and if he is he'll also be fuller.
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Personally I'd simply run nothing if all I had was deca but to each his own.
As far as no test = lean/cut/dry as possible, competitively speaking most who pull all test before a show get beat by goes who don't...not always but the majority. There is absolutely no reason, zero, none at all why one cannot be as dry and lean as possible with test and if he is he'll also be fuller.
Is it just deca you wouldnt run alone? Deca is not really an androgen.. a rather weak one anyways and highly anabolic. Dbol on the other hand, 10mg is enough to replace all androgens in the male body.
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I SEEM TO HOLD A LOT OF WATER ON TEST. SHOULD I RUN AROMASIN TOO? PEOPLE SAY MY DOSE IS LOW ENOUGH WITHOUT AN AI BUT IM A WATER FOUNTAIN. MAY HAVE TO GET SOME AROMASIN. SHOULD I JUST RUN IT 12.5MG E3D?
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The benefit is largely the synergistic affect many steroids have with each other.
this. in the case of test and deca. test is more androgenic in nature as to deca which is more anabolic. together they form a match made in heaven. :) every steroid has a little different properties; it depends on what you're trying to emphasize and what your concerns are.
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Personally I'd simply run nothing if all I had was deca but to each his own.
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As far as no test = lean/cut/dry as possible, competitively speaking most who pull all test before a show get beat by goes who don't...not always but the majority. There is absolutely no reason, zero, none at all why one cannot be as dry and lean as possible with test and if he is he'll also be fuller.
yeah, if he's on test suspension, but estherified test holds water.
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Tbombz is there really a difference in the quality of powders when it comes to ugl vs hg? One guy uses 1000mg sustanon brewed in his basement and another guy uses a gram of normas, same results? Gh15 says differently, I know you have said differently after trying some Zafas out and saying you regret not using human grade all along. I always thought all that matters is the amount of hormone in the blood no?
yeah all that matters is the amount of hormone in the blood.
what i was saying is that the powders most people get are not 100% hormone, and thus the gear is underdosed.
for example, a human grde company buys 1 kilo of raw test cyp powder and mixes it with roughly 4,000 cc's of oil. they would have 4,000 cc's of 250mg test cyp. now take a ug lab who buys 1 kilo of roids and mixes it with 4,000 cc's of oil. if their powder wa legit they would also ave 250mg/ml... but the powder they get is usually like, at best, 80% pure. so they are loooking at 200mg/ml.
depends on your source. ive gotten completely bunk powder before, and some pretty good stuff. the deca im using now works pretty good but i know its not 100% potency. like i said earlier i think it was probably only about 50% or so, by how 6cc's per week is feeling.
Personally I'd simply run nothing if all I had was deca but to each his own.
As far as no test = lean/cut/dry as possible, competitively speaking most who pull all test before a show get beat by goes who don't...not always but the majority. There is absolutely no reason, zero, none at all why one cannot be as dry and lean as possible with test and if he is he'll also be fuller.
you would rather lose muscle, feel like shit, put on fat, lose strength... rather than continue gaining muscle, continue staying lean, continue gaining strength, have great joints, and why?? because of some stupid ass internet bro science bullshit that makes you think every cycle needs test? dudes in the 60,70, 80's never ran test. go tell arnold and serge nubret they shouldnt have run a cycle without test. ;D
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for the people reading this thread that are just getting into steroids, pease dont pay attention to some of these guys. steroids are not complicated. use one, use a good amount. doesnt really matter which one. if all you have is deca, use deca. if all u have is winny, use winny. u get results no matter wat roid u take.
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dudes in the 60,70, 80's never ran test. go tell arnold and serge nubret they shouldnt have run a cycle without test. ;D
Believe it or not, I just watched Pumping Iron for the first time a few days ago. Looking at some of those guys' faces, it sure as hell looked like they were using test.
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Is it just deca you wouldnt run alone? Deca is not really an androgen.. a rather weak one anyways and highly anabolic. Dbol on the other hand, 10mg is enough to replace all androgens in the male body.
I wouldn't run Tren alone either.
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x2yeah, if he's on test suspension, but estherified test holds water.
You can run just about any form of testosterone and end up as dry as possible. Guys who don't did one of two things or both...didn't take estrogen precaution or ate too many carbohydrates.
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you would rather lose muscle, feel like shit, put on fat, lose strength... rather than continue gaining muscle, continue staying lean, continue gaining strength, have great joints, and why?? because of some stupid ass internet bro science bullshit that makes you think every cycle needs test? dudes in the 60,70, 80's never ran test. go tell arnold and serge nubret they shouldnt have run a cycle without test. ;D
I'd rather have adequate test levels because that is much more important in the long run, especially in this game.
The whole thing about the 60's and 70's guys not ever using test, especially in the 70's, that's a fairytale. I've heard Arnold talk about gear on more than one occasion, no, he didn't always use test but he did use it.
....and no, every last cycle on earth doesn't need test but test is still the most versatile well-tolerated steroid out there and by far the most important.
As far as "Bro-Science" I am the enemy of such nonsense...while message boards have been great for sharing information they've also been detrimental to the truth just as many times. I've got nothing against you tbombz but a lot of the time it seems like you speak based on what you'd like to believe, what you want to believe. I don't claim to be the end all know all of bodybuilding and never will but I am far from a Bro-Scientist. I haven't spent the last nearly ten years making my living by writing about bodybuilding and steroids because I pull things out of my ass...there's a reason I've been able to make a full time income from such things. Yes, I've done some stupid things along the way (that we will not talk about, lol!) but I'd hardly call myself an internet wonderboy.
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Believe it or not, I just watched Pumping Iron for the first time a few days ago. Looking at some of those guys' faces, it sure as hell looked like they were using test.
some of them did use test but most guys back then did not.
You can run just about any form of testosterone and end up as dry as possible. Guys who don't did one of two things or both...didn't take estrogen precaution or ate too many carbohydrates.
ya but why run test only to run an anti aromatase/anti estrogen along with it? test is great because of the estrogen that comes with it. cut out the estro, and then test is like a mild equipoise or soemthing. you said you wouldnt use tren alone, well tren alone kicks the fucking shit out of test+anti-estrogen.
I'd rather have adequate test levels because that is much more important in the long run, especially in this game.
The whole thing about the 60's and 70's guys not ever using test, especially in the 70's, that's a fairytale. I've heard Arnold talk about gear on more than one occasion, no, he didn't always use test but he did use it.
....and no, every last cycle on earth doesn't need test but test is still the most versatile well-tolerated steroid out there and by far the most important.
As far as "Bro-Science" I am the enemy of such nonsense...while message boards have been great for sharing information they've also been detrimental to the truth just as many times. I've got nothing against you tbombz but a lot of the time it seems like you speak based on what you'd like to believe, what you want to believe. I don't claim to be the end all know all of bodybuilding and never will but I am far from a Bro-Scientist. I haven't spent the last nearly ten years making my living by writing about bodybuilding and steroids because I pull things out of my ass...there's a reason I've been able to make a full time income from such things. Yes, I've done some stupid things along the way (that we will not talk about, lol!) but I'd hardly call myself an internet wonderboy.
theres no using why tst is necessary. you say in the long run it is. um, no. sory. did arold use test? he tried it out ut it wasnt in most of his cycles. besides the point, its not about what one bodybuilder did, but about what millions of guys have done.. go talk to someone from europe or the middle east where roids are adundant and they can try out everything ... those guys stay away from test. buselmo hates test, says deca destroys it. ...but that brings back another good point.. even though buselmo hates test, he still used it when it was all he had, and he still got GREAT results out of it. because all roids work. deca alone, test alone, tren alone. absolutely no reason to make things complicated. use a steroid, use a good amount.
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if all you have is deca, use deca. if all u have is winny, use winny. u get results no matter wat roid u take.
yeah, you get results like deca dick. although winstrol can be run alone.
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The whole thing about the 60's and 70's guys not ever using test, especially in the 70's, that's a fairytale. I've heard Arnold talk about gear on more than one occasion, no, he didn't always use test but he did use it.
ok. lets clear this up. arnie's stack consisted of primobolan, dianabol, and deca-durabolin. he got away with not running test by substituting for dianabol as his androgenic base.
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yeah, you get results like deca dick. although winstrol can be run alone.
i thought deca dick is all psychological??
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because all roids work.
... but have different attributes; stop trying to oversimplify.
deca alone, test alone, tren alone. absolutely no reason to make things complicated. use a steroid, use a good amount.
no. tren comes from the nandrolone family of steroids and just like deca if ran alone suppresses natural testosterone production so unpleasant sexual side effects will be experienced if not ran w/ test or something very androgenic. also endogenous test levels will not return to baseline for 1-4 months after drug secession without proper pct.
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i thought deca dick is all psychological??
no, here's the facts from william llewellyn:
studies administering 100 mg per week of nandrolone decanoate for 6 weeks have demonstrated an approximate 57% reduction in serum testosterone levels during therapy. at a dosage of 300 mg per week, this reduction reached 70%.
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no, here's the facts from william llewellyn:
studies administering 100 mg per week of nandrolone decanoate for 6 weeks have demonstrated an approximate 57% reduction in serum testosterone levels during therapy. at a dosage of 300 mg per week, this reduction reached 70%.
Ran 500mg deca for 8 weeks for one cycle and put on 12 lbs while getting leaner. felt like shit though
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yeah, you get results like deca dick. although winstrol can be run alone.
myself and others dont experience co called deca dick. if you do, then dont use it.
ok. lets clear this up. arnie's stack consisted of primobolan, dianabol, and deca-durabolin. he got away with not running test by substituting for dianabol as his androgenic base.
that was certainly his favorite based on the stories every one tells. theres no need to have a strong "androgen", "anabolics" work fine alone. btw, all steroids are androgens, and they are all anabolic. ;D
... but have different attributes; stop trying to oversimplify.no. tren comes from the nandrolone family of steroids and just like deca if ran alone suppresses natural testosterone production so unpleasant sexual side effects will be experienced if not ran w/ test or something very androgenic. also endogenous test levels will not return to baseline for 1-4 months after drug secession without proper pct.
some people might get unwanted side effects. that is true of any drug. those people shouldnt use those drugs. tren causes alot of guys to get super honry, way more than test even. and some guys get limp dick on test. you cant make generalized statements like that. the only generlization you can make is that steroids work. and thats all anybody needs to know. try one, if u like it keep using it. if you dont, switch to another. its not that im over simplifying its that your over complicating
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all steroids are androgens, and they are all anabolic. ;D
yes, but not all steroids have anabolic to androgenic ratio of 1/1! that's why i mention. since steroids were first synthesized they've been trying to alter a compound to make a side-effect-free completely anabolic steroid. although they have not succeeded they've came very close.
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no one gets limp dick on test. they've got a counterfeit and probably under-dosed steroid.
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myself and others dont experience co called deca dick. if you do, then dont use it.
that was certainly his favorite based on the stories every one tells. theres no need to have a strong "androgen", "anabolics" work fine alone. btw, all steroids are androgens, and they are all anabolic. ;D
some people might get unwanted side effects. that is true of any drug. those people shouldnt use those drugs. tren causes alot of guys to get super honry, way more than test even. and some guys get limp dick on test. you cant make generalized statements like that. the only generlization you can make is that steroids work. and thats all anybody needs to know. try one, if u like it keep using it. if you dont, switch to another. its not that im over simplifying its that your over complicating
a) Youve either been checking out other guys dicks for proof
cos b) I dont think many people are going to tell their buddies ' yeh i cant get hard' ::)
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a) Youve either been checking out other guys dicks for proof
cos b) I dont think many people are going to tell their buddies ' yeh i cant get hard' ::)
I never had "deca dick".
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I never had "deca dick".
same here
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myself and others dont experience co called deca dick. if you do, then dont use it.
that was certainly his favorite based on the stories every one tells. theres no need to have a strong "androgen", "anabolics" work fine alone. btw, all steroids are androgens, and they are all anabolic. ;D
some people might get unwanted side effects. that is true of any drug. those people shouldnt use those drugs. tren causes alot of guys to get super honry, way more than test even. and some guys get limp dick on test. you cant make generalized statements like that. the only generlization you can make is that steroids work. and thats all anybody needs to know. try one, if u like it keep using it. if you dont, switch to another. its not that im over simplifying its that your over complicating
"some people might get unwanted side effects. that is true of any drug. those people shouldnt use those drugs. tren causes alot of guys to get super honry, way more than test even. and some guys get limp dick on test. you cant make generalized statements like that. the only generlization you can make is that steroids work. and thats all anybody needs to know. try one, if u like it keep using it. if you dont, switch to another. its not that im over simplifying its that your over complicating"...With the exception of the "some guys get limp dick on test" I agree with the above statement.
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theres several guys on this board who have testified to test destroying their libido.
libido/sex drive is a very complex physiological occurence and many things can effect it, whether adverserly or positively. making blanket statements is rarely a good idea.
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theres several guys on this board who have testified to test destroying their libido.
they must have been referring to post cycle endogenous test suppression.
Testosterone is the primary male androgen, responsible for maintaining secondary male sexual characteristics.
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they must have been referring to post cycle endogenous test suppression.
Testosterone is the primary male androgen, responsible for maintaining secondary male sexual characteristics.
LMAO king of copy+paste
nope nope, on cycle, test destroys libido for some.
makes sense too.. balls shut off
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LMAO king of copy+paste
i'm citing my sources; i know, that must be a foreign concept for you.
nope nope, on cycle, test destroys libido for some.
and what scientific evidence of this do you have?
makes sense too.. balls shut off
yes, balls shut off bc overabundance exists. there is no need to produce.
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your source says nothing we didnt already know.
scientific evidence is observation. personal testimony is observation. we have plenty.
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scientific evidence is observation. personal testimony is observation. we have plenty.
personal testimony is valuable yes. but personal testimony may be distorted due to other variables involved making it often unreliable. e.g. personal bias, placebo effect, effects of other drugs in stack, varying diet, training differences, bunk/under-dosed/counterfeit gear, etc... in a scientific environment additional variables of this nature are eliminated so apples can be compared to apples and oranges to oranges (figuratively).
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personal testimony is valuable yes. but personal testimony may be distorted due to other variables involved making it often unreliable. e.g. personal bias, placebo effect, effects of other drugs in stack, varying diet, training differences, bunk/under-dosed/counterfeit gear, etc... in a scientific environment additional variables of this nature are eliminated so apples can be compared to apples and oranges to oranges (figuratively).
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test kills libido in some people.
end of discussion.
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all steroids work the same eh?
http://www.ergo-log.com/nantest.html
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test kills libido in some people.
end of discussion.
baseless claim.
end of discussion.
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test kills libido in some people.
end of discussion.
its because those people are female and need estrogen for libido...haha but seriously i fucking highly doubt your claim, get one guy to post here telling us he got less libido with test added, wont happen.
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its because those people are female and need estrogen for libido...haha but seriously i fucking highly doubt your claim, get one guy to post here telling us he got less libido with test added, wont happen.
very common bro. To be honest, no steroid raises my sex drive. I love sex on 200mg test or a gram of test
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The ability to wake up with an erection does not mean your test levels are high or even normal. As most of you know I haven't used any gear at all for over a year, I had my test levels checked about 2 months ago and my total test was 63...point being, even with test that low I've had no erectile dysfunction problems, erection every morning like normal. When you sleep a lot of blood goes to your penis regardless, this doesn't mean your test levels are high, it just means you don't have erectile dysfunction. Granted, low test levels can affect this but it won't always as I am living proof.
Test levels came back at 63 and you're still going strong in the bedroom!? I have a hard time believing this lol. Are you still good to bang several times a night, or is once a week your limit?
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theres several guys on this board who have testified to test destroying their libido.
libido/sex drive is a very complex physiological occurence and many things can effect it, whether adverserly or positively. making blanket statements is rarely a good idea.
Do you know everything they were taking? They could've been on letro eod and that'll mess up sex drive. I have a hard time believing this, seems physiologically impossible. It seems as if they're running something else with the test that would ruin their libido, or they're just on bunk test.
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Test levels came back at 63 and you're still going strong in the bedroom!? I have a hard time believing this lol. Are you still good to bang several times a night, or is once a week your limit?
No, with my test levels that low I had almost no sex drive, I'd get the urge maybe once a wk if I was lucky but most of the time I didn't care...I was about as miserable as I could be and I kept getting sick, lost a lot of muscle and gained a bit of fat, not obese but enough to be bothersome just the same. Anyway, even with test levels that low I still would have morning wood regularly, I simply had no drive and if I did get off...when your endocrine system gets jacked it ain't pretty.
And no, they didn't come back naturally from that point, I may be on HRT the rest of my life and more than likely will be. But I feel like myself again and everything works beautifully!
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Do you know everything they were taking? They could've been on letro eod and that'll mess up sex drive. I have a hard time believing this, seems physiologically impossible. It seems as if they're running something else with the test that would ruin their libido, or they're just on bunk test.
Yes, test should not kill your sex drive...there's a reason it's the main prescribed medication to treat loss of libido and low testosterone...because it is testosterone, pretty simple really.
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lol,, i was reading this postings ,,im impressed ,,this thread is one of the best in history of getbig,, until the beggining of page 2 lol ,,
first of tbom is learned alot along the years,,pretty impressive ,,not always accurate ,,but pretty impressive ,,lots of knowledge from hands on ,, i like felas like that
arnold junior is right though,, testosterona is highly important,, now
youll be surprized but the biggest i have ever been as bodybuilder was WITH NO TESTOSTERONA! it was on loads of nandrolona and equipona and then after few months burst testosterona for 2 weeks at 2 gram and i looked absolitly humongus bigger than ever been ,,BUT! there was one problem ...the CONDITION was not umm not there i was big as in wide....very very wide,,,and had a watery apperance eventhough tight from hgh and eq ,,the appearance was of blurred/puffed/semi hard physiqe ,,it was single bodyfat which gave it some quality ...but it wasnt the TIGHT CONDITIONED size with visible veins and abs clearly there and just polished look,, for that look TEST IS NEEDED AND TRENBOLONA IS NEEDED,, AND GH IS NEEDED...
generaly speaking ,,,one steroids is ok but its not ok if you trying to build something that progressivly advance,,
the combination of few hormones put together is the way to advance in bodybuild,,
you need to devide hormones to 2 groups,,and yes i know you wil come and say everything can bulk and cut ,,BUT NO,,
hormones are devided to the ones who will give you estrogen and the ones who will not!
a good bodybuild alwyas remember that he need to bring his condition into first priority,,first and formost to be lean ,,no matter even if he is 180 ,,he need to be lean ! so a bodybuild will first count on drugs such as trenbolona ...and gh inorder to get that lean dense look that is so sough after so he can later start creating a mutatation on that lean size ,,its alwys easier and always the way to go ,,
then when lean enough and ready ...you put in what needed ,,you put the testosterona in high drive,,you put the anabolics in high drive ...you take out the trenbolona ace for a while ...this is when you get the break because you need it when you are lean enough ,,you will notice that no matter what you eat you can not get fat period NO MATTER WHAT,, thats when you take trenbolona ace out...and replace it with anadrol!
this is when mutatition get into high drive and into mega thickness and size you all look for... you wil see even then you remain 6-7 % and can not gain fat! and you wil eat your mama and dada and stil no fat gain only water and from within muscle...
later on you will bring back trenbolona ace a,d reduce testosterona again inorder to dial it in ...which in return with the usage of diuretic at the right time will give you what you all want and it is
magazine look that you see on muscle and fitness and flex every single month,, this is how you get there friends....its little more thna i write but you get the pic!
the combination of hormones is highly important in advance bodybuild but you do need to know what when and how ! it takes experience and hands on not bro science but hands on ,,
you can advance on one hormone but it wont be even close to the fella who used combo when it come to condition ..you may be able to say hey im wider than you few inches... with shirt on ...but moment your bud take the shirt off....its lights out you will be put to shame becaue while your condition will be half ass blurred 9% ....he will present condition that is tight ,,and defined ,,and developed each muscle group and just hard as nails and ready to do damage ,,
dont ever confuse wideness of a line backer with quality of a bodybuild ...those 2 inches of extra width of the linebacker usage of dianabol and testosterona ...is nothing! in comparison to the bodybuild who was on trenbolona testosterona equipona and gh ,,,absolitly nothing in comparison
the tricks to impressive physiqe is to know how to blow it up from the inside out preferebly with less insulina than needed and more anapolona.... the problem is anapolona will not get you to the size insulina put on you but stilll! the idea is to blow yourself up after you are lean! enough ...
the usage of anapolona and high dose testosterona and high dose gh is all there and thats what gets the job done..
gh15 approved
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Never had a problem with Test but Deca was another story, I immediately stop using in because it was affecting my libido and went for Eq.
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Never had a problem with Test but Deca was another story, I immediately stop using in because it was affecting my libido and went for Eq.
If the deca is real and it's the only thing you're taking it is impossible for it not to suppress your libido. The suppression caused by deca is so strong many guys suffer libido problems even with test in the mix.
I think it's important to note, when we speak of libido suppression this doesn't necessarily mean you won't have any sex drive or your pecker won't work at all, it simply means "suppression" and this can vary from one guy to the next in-terms of the pronounced affect.
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lol,, i was reading this postings ,,im impressed ,,this thread is one of the best in history of getbig,, until the beggining of page 2 lol ,,
first of tbom is learned alot along the years,,pretty impressive ,,not always accurate ,,but pretty impressive ,,lots of knowledge from hands on ,, i like felas like that
arnold junior is right though,, testosterona is highly important,, now
youll be surprized but the biggest i have ever been as bodybuilder was WITH NO TESTOSTERONA! it was on loads of nandrolona and equipona and then after few months burst testosterona for 2 weeks at 2 gram and i looked absolitly humongus bigger than ever been ,,BUT! there was one problem ...the CONDITION was not umm not there i was big as in wide....very very wide,,,and had a watery apperance eventhough tight from hgh and eq ,,the appearance was of blurred/puffed/semi hard physiqe ,,it was single bodyfat which gave it some quality ...but it wasnt the TIGHT CONDITIONED size with visible veins and abs clearly there and just polished look,, for that look TEST IS NEEDED AND TRENBOLONA IS NEEDED,, AND GH IS NEEDED...
generaly speaking ,,,one steroids is ok but its not ok if you trying to build something that progressivly advance,,
the combination of few hormones put together is the way to advance in bodybuild,,
you need to devide hormones to 2 groups,,and yes i know you wil come and say everything can bulk and cut ,,BUT NO,,
hormones are devided to the ones who will give you estrogen and the ones who will not!
a good bodybuild alwyas remember that he need to bring his condition into first priority,,first and formost to be lean ,,no matter even if he is 180 ,,he need to be lean ! so a bodybuild will first count on drugs such as trenbolona ...and gh inorder to get that lean dense look that is so sough after so he can later start creating a mutatation on that lean size ,,its alwys easier and always the way to go ,,
then when lean enough and ready ...you put in what needed ,,you put the testosterona in high drive,,you put the anabolics in high drive ...you take out the trenbolona ace for a while ...this is when you get the break because you need it when you are lean enough ,,you will notice that no matter what you eat you can not get fat period NO MATTER WHAT,, thats when you take trenbolona ace out...and replace it with anadrol!
this is when mutatition get into high drive and into mega thickness and size you all look for... you wil see even then you remain 6-7 % and can not gain fat! and you wil eat your mama and dada and stil no fat gain only water and from within muscle...
later on you will bring back trenbolona ace a,d reduce testosterona again inorder to dial it in ...which in return with the usage of diuretic at the right time will give you what you all want and it is
magazine look that you see on muscle and fitness and flex every single month,, this is how you get there friends....its little more thna i write but you get the pic!
the combination of hormones is highly important in advance bodybuild but you do need to know what when and how ! it takes experience and hands on not bro science but hands on ,,
you can advance on one hormone but it wont be even close to the fella who used combo when it come to condition ..you may be able to say hey im wider than you few inches... with shirt on ...but moment your bud take the shirt off....its lights out you will be put to shame becaue while your condition will be half ass blurred 9% ....he will present condition that is tight ,,and defined ,,and developed each muscle group and just hard as nails and ready to do damage ,,
dont ever confuse wideness of a line backer with quality of a bodybuild ...those 2 inches of extra width of the linebacker usage of dianabol and testosterona ...is nothing! in comparison to the bodybuild who was on trenbolona testosterona equipona and gh ,,,absolitly nothing in comparison
the tricks to impressive physiqe is to know how to blow it up from the inside out preferebly with less insulina than needed and more anapolona.... the problem is anapolona will not get you to the size insulina put on you but stilll! the idea is to blow yourself up after you are lean! enough ...
the usage of anapolona and high dose testosterona and high dose gh is all there and thats what gets the job done..
gh15 approved
Wait a minute, did you just say I was right about something? I didn't think you'd ever do that, lol!
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My question is how do you do all this without getting the distended belly look? :-X
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My question is how do you do all this without getting the distended belly look? :-X
Try not eating pizzas and cakes everyday. hope this helps.
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My question is how do you do all this without getting the distended belly look? :-X
START LEAN AND KEEP ESTROGEN DOWN?
IDK. GH15 ID LOVE TO HEAR THIS ANSWER DOWN. IM NOT FAT, IM BLOOFY. HOW DO I TAKE AWAY BLOOFINESS?
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Try not eating pizzas and cakes everyday. hope this helps.
There's your answer, otherwise insulina is the only thing that will give you the belly.
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There's your answer, otherwise insulina is the only thing that will give you the belly.
It is true, too much of certain hormones will cause the distended look, as will years of massive eating and dieting. However, often overlooked is the effect and strain hard training has on the body, as your core (btw, I hate the word "core") takes so much abuse when you're lifting heavy ass weight. Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming it on training, I'm simply saying it can play a role.
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It is true, too much of certain hormones will cause the distended look, as will years of massive eating and dieting. However, often overlooked is the effect and strain hard training has on the body, as your core (btw, I hate the word "core") takes so much abuse when you're lifting heavy ass weight. Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming it on training, I'm simply saying it can play a role.
Sure, organs grow throughout the years based on a variety of things. But for a bodybuilder in contest shape, this growth would be minimal. His waist will still be extremely tight, 80s style waist, distended belly would never come up in your head. On average gym rat joe with 13 percent bf, different story.
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Sure, organs grow throughout the years based on a variety of things. But for a bodybuilder in contest shape, this growth would be minimal. His waist will still be extremely tight, 80s style waist, distended belly would never come up in your head. On average gym rat joe with 13 percent bf, different story.
True.
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its because those people are female and need estrogen for libido...haha but seriously i fucking highly doubt your claim, get one guy to post here telling us he got less libido with test added, wont happen.
im on 2ml of tren, 1.5mL test e, 1.5mL eq EVERY FCKIN DAY
hasnt killed my sex drive for shit but I do pump some hcg now and then :D
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im on 2ml of tren, 1.5mL test e, 1.5mL eq EVERY FCKIN DAY
hasnt killed my sex drive for shit but I do pump some hcg now and then :D
that's a ton of gear bro.
to clarify: hcg induces natural testosterone production. test e = testosterone replacement/natural production suppressant. either way you'll have sex drive, but hcg administration during cycle will help reduce testicular atrophy.
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START LEAN AND KEEP ESTROGEN DOWN?
IDK. GH15 ID LOVE TO HEAR THIS ANSWER DOWN. IM NOT FAT, IM BLOOFY. HOW DO I TAKE AWAY BLOOFINESS?
read bible. masterona.
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im on 2ml of tren, 1.5mL test e, 1.5mL eq EVERY FCKIN DAY
hasnt killed my sex drive for shit but I do pump some hcg now and then :D
ml just tells us the volume what is the mgs/ml?
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ml just tells us the volume what is the mgs/ml?
i made it all myself
200mg/mL eq
300mg/mL test e
100mg/mL tren ace
500iu hcg every 7 days or so
15iu red tops
slin varies from day to day 20-60iu depending on work schedule
t3 100mcg day but I stopped a month ago
thats about it - some b12 inject here and there but thats it and Im doin it all summer
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p94/dwayno/IMG00082.jpg)
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running tons of deca right now and my sex drive is thru the roof.
had limp dick on test before.
sorry guys, get off the internetz.
... nice post gh15
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i made it all myself
200mg/mL eq
300mg/mL test e
100mg/mL tren ace
500iu hcg every 7 days or so
15iu red tops
slin varies from day to day 20-60iu depending on work schedule
t3 100mcg day but I stopped a month ago
thats about it - some b12 inject here and there but thats it and Im doin it all summer
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p94/dwayno/IMG00082.jpg)
so..
2.1g EQ, 3.1g test e, 1.4g tren a per week + 15iu gh ed+slin.
WTFFFFFF
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read bible. masterona.
YES I FIGURED THIS BUT HE LIKE MASTERONA DI PROP VERSION NOT LONG EASTER. I DONT WANT TO PIN EVERYDAY. I JUST TAKE 1.5 AMPOLAS ON SUNDAY NIGHT, BUT IF I USE MASTERON ID NEED TO INJECT DAILY, RIGHT? IF I GO LONG EASTER, HE DOESNT THINK ITS AS EFFECTIVE.
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IF I GO LONG EASTER, HE DOESNT THINK ITS AS EFFECTIVE.
i believe it is if ester difference is compensated for. see my post: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=385761.0
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running tons of deca right now and my sex drive is thru the roof.
had limp dick on test before.
sorry guys, get off the internetz.
... nice post gh15
im with you on this one..im on 900mg x week of a blend of deca..libido is higher than ever(i also take 100mg drol on the days i train)
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im with you on this one..im on 900mg x week of a blend of deca..libido is higher than ever(i also take 100mg drol on the days i train)
sounds promising ::)
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baseless claim.
end of discussion.
Another twink expert who knows nothing and argues with people based on what he's read from so-called drug guru's and testimonials off teh internet. Like I've said before, all the info and studies in the world won't tell you how a drug will work for YOU. If I tell you my libido was higher and erections were at an all time high running NPP and tren alone would I be lying just because it goes against everything you've read? You have two tiny short term cycles under your belt and you got it all figured out...fu*king child.
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Libido isso fucking impredictable.
I can have high libido on deca and tren
low libido on high doses of test
high libido on high doses of test
high libido running jack shit
low libido running jack shit
you just never know 8)
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Libido isso fucking impredictable.
I can have high libido on deca and tren
low libido on high doses of test
high libido on high doses of test
high libido running jack shit
low libido running jack shit
you just never know 8)
I agree.
The majority believes.. ::)
high test=high libido.
deca=limp dick.
hcg=big balls.
and so on.
Its just how they connect what they have "heard" with what they have "read" on the internet using "common sense"...without even trying anything. lmao.
It doesnt go this way.
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Right now I use melanotan II so even if libido drops I still have a boner all the fricking time so I can still please the lady ;D
but right now libido is real high for once 8)
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ANY NOTICABLE LIBIDO EFFECTS FROM GH?
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Another twink expert who knows nothing and argues with people based on what he's read from so-called drug guru's and testimonials off teh internet. Like I've said before, all the info and studies in the world won't tell you how a drug will work for YOU. If I tell you my libido was higher and erections were at an all time high running NPP and tren alone would I be lying just because it goes against everything you've read? You have two tiny short term cycles under your belt and you got it all figured out...fu*king child.
my info is not much from testimonials. mainly internet articles, magazine articles, and drug profiles from william llewellyn. yes, the way an individual responds depends on different variables of course, but being informed on a compound does help especially when choosing which drugs to stack for desired look.
they were moderate cycles for an amateur and both 12 weeks.
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i made it all myself
200mg/mL eq
300mg/mL test e
100mg/mL tren ace
500iu hcg every 7 days or so
15iu red tops
slin varies from day to day 20-60iu depending on work schedule
t3 100mcg day but I stopped a month ago
thats about it - some b12 inject here and there but thats it and Im doin it all summer
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p94/dwayno/IMG00082.jpg)
Why concentration level so low on the eq? Of all the hormones it seems that eq would be the easiest to brew at high concentrations since it's a liquid at room temp. In fact if you could sterilize the raw then warm it up to liquify it more and use a 20g pin you could conceivably shoot pure eq. Even gh15 mentioned that the eq he uses is at 500mg/ml.
higher concentration = less pinning
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if someone here ever try the cfc eq that wsas yellowish greenish oil said on it 300mg per ml but was most likley 500mg per ml ,,what did he put in that shit?? that equipona stinks like there is no tomorow but it blow you the fuck up make you wider fuller and leaner in matter of days ,,what did this fella put in this equipona? i get so many question about this ,, someone need to know or find out because someone know the person ,, what did the maker of syntrax equipona put in the vial? where did he get this 100% top quality powder? and how much he overdosed it ? that equipona is something unreal ,, it stink so bad you can smell the drug so far it is insane but! that thing grow you widdddddddddddde and thick and lean ,, this is the purest form of equipona i have ever withnessed,,
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if someone here ever try the cfc eq that wsas yellowish greenish oil said on it 300mg per ml but was most likley 500mg per ml ,,what did he put in that shit?? that equipona stinks like there is no tomorow but it blow you the fuck up make you wider fuller and leaner in matter of days ,,what did this fella put in this equipona? i get so many question about this ,, someone need to know or find out because someone know the person ,, what did the maker of syntrax equipona put in the vial? where did he get this 100% top quality powder? and how much he overdosed it ? that equipona is something unreal ,, it stink so bad you can smell the drug so far it is insane but! that thing grow you widdddddddddddde and thick and lean ,, this is the purest form of equipona i have ever withnessed,,
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I loaded up on some cfc/rouge gear back in Feb when he was all the rage on anabolicboard. Because his stuff was so highly priased I got all 50ml vials since the price was so good. I got the 50ml of deca, eq, sus, t base. They were all listed at 400mg/ml (why 400mg for 50ml and 300mg for 10ml vials I don't know) except for the t base which was 100mg/ml in oil not wate which is what I wanted because I belive one should never get water base gear from ug.
anyway I took 1.5ml of eq, deca and 2ml of sus per week. I did 50ml of tne only preworkout. gains were OK but I expected a bit more at 2g/wk (not counting the 4x/wk of tne). I never went that high before. I suspected that they were more like 300mg/ml instead of 400mg. I also was on 5iu/day of NDs. Things really got moving when I droped the eq and dec to 1ml/wk keep sus at 2ml and added tren at 1ml 4-5x/wk. I cut the eq and dec only because I wanted to cut donw on injects since I added tren. I get sick of stabbing myself. The tren was from Hoechst Roussel so I made it myself. Iknow you dont recommend pellets I only do this because at least I know it's 100%real. I'd make everything myself if I know 100% it's real. Id convert synovex if I could get the estro out. I've read the conversion on this and it's just beyond me. finaplix not that bad and its the one product that make the most difference body composition wise. anyway heres pic of eq from rogue. cfc went bad or got popped but some have accuse him of being selective scammer and give great gear to some and cut gear to others. I'm not big shot board member with influence like mighty1 (who was the reason I went cfc) so I dont know if I got super eq. didn't feel like it.
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so..
2.1g EQ, 3.1g test e, 1.4g tren a per week + 15iu gh ed+slin.
WTFFFFFF
Spike does whatever it takes. I think he's decided to pull out all the stops and see where it takes him. Succes or fail, win or lose at least he can look back in life and know he gave it a shot. Not grow old asking himself "What if?"
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I loaded up on some cfc/rouge gear back in Feb when he was all the rage on anabolicboard. Because his stuff was so highly priased I got all 50ml vials since the price was so good. I got the 50ml of deca, eq, sus, t base. They were all listed at 400mg/ml (why 400mg for 50ml and 300mg for 10ml vials I don't know) except for the t base which was 100mg/ml in oil not wate which is what I wanted because I belive one should never get water base gear from ug.
anyway I took 1.5ml of eq, deca and 2ml of sus per week. I did 50ml of tne only preworkout. gains were OK but I expected a bit more at 2g/wk (not counting the 4x/wk of tne). I never went that high before. I suspected that they were more like 300mg/ml instead of 400mg. I also was on 5iu/day of NDs. Things really got moving when I droped the eq and dec to 1ml/wk keep sus at 2ml and added tren at 1ml 4-5x/wk. I cut the eq and dec only because I wanted to cut donw on injects since I added tren. I get sick of stabbing myself. The tren was from Hoechst Roussel so I made it myself. Iknow you dont recommend pellets I only do this because at least I know it's 100%real. I'd make everything myself if I know 100% it's real. Id convert synovex if I could get the estro out. I've read the conversion on this and it's just beyond me. finaplix not that bad and its the one product that make the most difference body composition wise. anyway heres pic of eq from rogue. cfc went bad or got popped but some have accuse him of being selective scammer and give great gear to some and cut gear to others. I'm not big shot board member with influence like mighty1 (who was the reason I went cfc) so I dont know if I got super eq. didn't feel like it.
no this is not the equipoise im talking about,, im talking about 2008-2009 circa highest quality poweder i have ever withnessed of quipoise,,it came from nordic that was why... ,,it was cfc as the cook and nordic equipoise powder,, that equipoise i have no words to describe it,, and cfc ...maybe he knew it will get to gh15 which i doubt since my elfs dont say who they get what for ...but he dosed it at 500 or 600 mg per ml i do not know what he did there but that thing THICKEN YOU FROM THE INSIDE OUT especialy the delts ,,really lean you and thicken you same time and tighten you at the waist ,, very very good equipoise but powder is no more like this quality
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I've never seen any EQ or any other raw hormones but a few years ago I had some UG gear that had an incredibly strong smell that would stink up the apartment for weeks after a shot. :D
Asked on another board and someone said the smell is most likely due to the solvent guaiacol.
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I've never seen any EQ or any other raw hormones but a few years ago I had some UG gear that had an incredibly strong smell that would stink up the apartment for weeks after a shot. :D
Asked on another board and someone said the smell is most likely due to the solvent guaiacol.
the omnadren smelled REALLY bad
an amp broke in the mail and it stinked when I unwrapped it
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GH15ona, How long does it take EQ to began to do its thing? What's up with this 16 week crap?
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the omnadren smelled REALLY bad
an amp broke in the mail and it stinked when I unwrapped it
Never used Omna but I wonder if it was really legit Omna? I remember you saying your Omna was supposed to be fake according to boards but still worked great.
The smell I'm talking about was EXTREME. :D
The product was injectable Anadrol, Martin Kjellströms lab (Dutch Labs). Shitty gear because of too high solvent levels, all Dutch Lab gear left tennis ball sized lumps. :D
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GH15ona, How long does it take EQ to began to do its thing? What's up with this 16 week crap?
from the first week! ,, now it may have been equipona with no ester attached! but that thing was very different than other equiponas,,reason is? i use it right now! and same happen ,, this is some seriously 100% powder purity and very very overdosed equipona,, the color is greenish yellowish it just look like 3 times maybe 4 times stronger than other equipona colors that have little green tilt but this one just looked yelowish greenish and deeper color,,that thing just opened you up 1-2 inches each side of the delts,, very serious compound that was really over dosed
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I've never seen any EQ or any other raw hormones but a few years ago I had some UG gear that had an incredibly strong smell that would stink up the apartment for weeks after a shot. :D
Asked on another board and someone said the smell is most likely due to the solvent guaiacol.
i used other guicol solvent in other product i tried ,,none smelled like this,, even if it is guaiacol ....why having such horrid strong smell ...due to putting too much of it ...why you put too much of it? inorder to hold lots and lots of powder...but equipona come in liquid form soooo that smell was something else,, this was and is equipona that the top profesionals use since i used it back in 90s when it came vet grade,, this is something very different it give you the open delts look that denis wolfe has..it just gets you wider meaty wider and tighter and leaner at the same time,, this is the one product that gets you up there in volumization alogn with hgh and testosterona ,,but this is the one product that give the final touch on polished mutation,,
problem is...i have not seen it since 2008-2009 again ,,im sure it was powder from ****directly
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the omnadren smelled REALLY bad
an amp broke in the mail and it stinked when I unwrapped it
nono,, omnadren smelll good ,,tetsosterona liek that smell good its like perfume i like put it on my hand and sniff lol,,,that other thing smelled and smell like bangate in very high concentration ,,it smell like you been in the shoe store with al bundy for 3 months locked with leather shoes up your nose ,, it is very different ,, probbaly eqipona with no ester attached and amazingly painless due to the compounds used to make it and the doses he put in ,, he was real real good at what he did and the raw was the best quality i hav ewithness to date that includes all vet products from past
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Never used Omna but I wonder if it was really legit Omna? I remember you saying your Omna was supposed to be fake according to boards but still worked great.
The smell I'm talking about was EXTREME. :D
The product was injectable Anadrol, Martin Kjellströms lab (Dutch Labs). Shitty gear because of too high solvent levels, all Dutch Lab gear left tennis ball sized lumps. :D
the smell im talkin about smell like you just ate your own leather shoes through your nose,,very strong ,,but it works from the first couple days you are on it ,, you feel it working ,, it is crazy strong ,, it is not the testosterona since i been on none stop,, it is not the hgh ,, it is not any other compound,, moment i got back to this the thicknening of 1-2 inches each side started,,all with tightening of the waist sharpening of the physiqe and the blowing up from within phenomenon with thinner skin look
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the smell im talkin about smell like you just ate your own leather shoes through your nose,,very strong ,,but it works from the first couple days you are on it ,, you feel it working ,, it is crazy strong ,, it is not the testosterona since i been on none stop,, it is not the hgh ,, it is not any other compound,, moment i got back to this the thicknening of 1-2 inches each side started,,all with tightening of the waist sharpening of the physiqe and the blowing up from within phenomenon with thinner skin look
gh15 approved
This is what EQ gives you right?
is there any other effect you get from EQ ?
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again what legit equipona easterles or not gives you is....
the thickness from the sides of the delts ,,the rounder delts ,,the leaner thinner skin with veins going higher onto the skin ,, it gives you the lean look while growing you from the inside out ,, tight waist while blowing up on the delts...but! while blwing up your delt from each side guess what...due to you getting more polished lookin...the chest start to get the squary thin skin look ...full yet squary ,, hard to explain but bodybuild know what im talkin about,, it blow up the abs but keep it tight basically it grow you lean from the inside out,, the skin attach itself and wrap itself around the muscle...muscle is pumped lean and skin is thin!
it has to be legit equipona and i dont see it around ,, the one im using now is legit!,,it is overdosed and it just looks GREEEEN the solution look greeenish yellowsh you can tell it is over dosed + it smell like complete shit leather like..might be from the guiacol but it is overdosed ...you feel it very fast may be its esterless but it sure works and works fast,,with hgh and testosterona it take you into a different levek,, problem is it seem nto to be around since this are vials from 2008... this is very different very much like old mexicano vet eq just better and over dosed
gh15 approved
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I have just never been a big fan of EQ and before you bash me Mr. 15 I've used EQ from some of your very own "Approved Sources" but I've still never been all that impressed. I'm not saying it's a bad steroid but IMO there are so many that are so much better. Personally I think EQ is a terrible off-season anabolic but decent for dieting but even still I'd rather choose other items.
Did anyone else here ever use that Boldenone-Propionate the late Chris Lance used to make? I know a lot of you guys used Chris back in the early days of getbig. Now that stuff was powerful but the injections were like taking a hit from a sledge hammer and made test-suspension shots feel like warm butter, lol!
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I have just never been a big fan of EQ and before you bash me Mr. 15 I've used EQ from some of your very own "Approved Sources" but I've still never been all that impressed. I'm not saying it's a bad steroid but IMO there are so many that are so much better. Personally I think EQ is a terrible off-season anabolic but decent for dieting but even still I'd rather choose other items.
Did anyone else here ever use that Boldenone-Propionate the late Chris Lance used to make? I know a lot of you guys used Chris back in the early days of getbig. Now that stuff was powerful but the injections were like taking a hit from a sledge hammer and made test-suspension shots feel like warm butter, lol!
I love EQ because you can megadose it without worring about bitch tits 8)
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I love EQ because you can megadose it without worring about bitch tits 8)
id rather have to worry about bitch tits and use adex than having my blood as thick as jello
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tbomz, blade runner, cross of iron, stavios...
im glad i am reading these posts of deca and limp dick myth.
i have been running deca alone for some time now and questioned my "cook" why what i was reading on the internet, was not happening to me ("cant get it up", limp dick, etc)...so maybe he gave test instead of deca, so he swaps for me.....again same thing, can masterbate ON DEMAND, and fuck the girl when i want too (to a lesser degree than test tho!)...so next i bring syringe loaded with test and deca. only i know which is which bit dont tell my cook. he can tell what is what just by smell and taste he has been cooking for so many years and correctly identifies them both! it was nandrolone all along......and now you guys backing up my experience here.
its all in the head. the more you read the BS side effects on the internet, the more you set yourself up to receive them.
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id rather have to worry about bitch tits and use adex than having my blood as thick as jello
I love Jello 8)
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getting back to what tbombz was saying.. i have experienced sexual issues by running test alone.. yes, i may have been a bit horney at times but mr hammer was not willing to cooperate.. some will say that it is a estrogen conversion issue.. that might be true but running aromasin with it did not help.. so yes, i can attest that test will screw me up in that regard.. now, running low amounts of test and running some tren with it had just the opposite effect and gave me erections that were actually painful lol.. tren may be a nandrolne based compound but it is still highly androgenic..
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i made it all myself
200mg/mL eq
300mg/mL test e
100mg/mL tren ace
500iu hcg every 7 days or so
15iu red tops
slin varies from day to day 20-60iu depending on work schedule
t3 100mcg day but I stopped a month ago
thats about it - some b12 inject here and there but thats it and Im doin it all summer
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p94/dwayno/IMG00082.jpg)
15iu red tops a day...weren't u running nd's blues before? how do u think they compare with each other?
gh15 said something like 1iu nd's blues = 0,8iu...do u agree with that?
reason i'm asking is 'cos those blues seem to be cheap as fuck, so even with those earlier mentioned ratios they would be a fantastic deal, maybe even better than reds...thoughts?
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nd blue good gh,, it is good gh! approved,, .8 iu you wont feel any difference what so ever,, your pocket will ! they both good,, the red top little better becaus eit little more pure as simple as that ,,
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getting back to what tbombz was saying.. i have experienced sexual issues by running test alone.. yes, i may have been a bit horney at times but mr hammer was not willing to cooperate.. some will say that it is a estrogen conversion issue.. that might be true but running aromasin with it did not help.. so yes, i can attest that test will screw me up in that regard.. now, running low amounts of test and running some tren with it had just the opposite effect and gave me erections that were actually painful lol.. tren may be a nandrolne based compound but it is still highly androgenic..
Again and this is with me - so from personal experience - the longer esters are shit for my sex life - Tren A = horny and hard 24/7 ..Tren E = yeah - ill fuck but need cialis - same issue with test - so now I only run prop as my test source - its a bitch with more injects - even on cruise doses but i want to fuck all the time ;D
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Again and this is with me - so from personal experience - the longer esters are shit for my sex life - Tren A = horny and hard 24/7 ..Tren E = yeah - ill fuck but need cialis - same issue with test - so now I only run prop as my test source - its a bitch with more injects - even on cruise doses but i want to fuck all the time ;D
This is no good since I'm switching from prop to enanthate. fuck man, I was doing 400mg of prop a week, you think 750mg of E will keep it steady?
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This is no good since I'm switching from prop to enanthate. fuck man, I was doing 400mg of prop a week, you think 750mg of E will keep it steady?
Cant answer that bro - It's what I found with me - you may be different but for some reason longer esters do play with my sex drive and erections. :-\ >:(
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How are pep's nd blues? Is pep reliable?
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Cant answer that bro - It's what I found with me - you may be different but for some reason longer esters do play with my sex drive and erections. :-\ >:(
VERY FUNNY YOU SAY...MY BRO IS THE SAME WAY. BUT HE MOVED IT TO TWO TIMES A WEEK OR EVEN THREE TIMES A WEEK AND NOW HE SAYS HE FEELS GREAT. WHEN HE WAS AT ONCE A WEEK, BY ABOUT DAY 5-6-7 HE WOULD FEEL LIKE TRASH.
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How are pep's nd blues? Is pep reliable?
yep...peppy is a class act, doesn't talk much but definitely delivers..."prince of hormones" ;D
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yep...peppy is a class act, doesn't talk much but definitely delivers..."prince of hormones" ;D
Lol, so true
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Again and this is with me - so from personal experience - the longer esters are shit for my sex life - Tren A = horny and hard 24/7 ..Tren E = yeah - ill fuck but need cialis - same issue with test - so now I only run prop as my test source - its a bitch with more injects - even on cruise doses but i want to fuck all the time ;D
bro I am the same fucking way !
we are dick brothers (no homo)