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Someone from the higher ups HAD to approve this edit.....no liberal bias huh?
NBC issued an on-air apology Sunday for omitting the words "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance during its coverage of golf's U.S. Open.
The words were edited out of a clip of children reciting the oath -- a move immediately noted by viewers, who took to Twitter and various blogs to voice their anger, the Huffington Post reported.
In a statement during the broadcast, NBC commentator Dan Hicks said, "We began our coverage of this final round just about three hours ago and when we did it was our intent to begin the coverage of this U.S. Open Championship with a feature that captured the patriotism of our national championship being held in our nation's capital for the third time.
"Regrettably, a portion of the Pledge of Allegiance that was in that feature was edited out. It was not done to upset anyone and we'd like to apologize to those of you who were offended by it."
The words "under God" were not in the original pledge from 1892 and were not added until 1954.
While this was going on, Northern Ireland's Rory McIlroy romped to an eight-shot win to claim his first major title with a record-low 72-hole score of 16-under par at Congressional Country Club in Bethesda, Md.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/19/nbc-apologizes-for-omitting-under-god-from-pledge-during-us-open-broadcast/#ixzz1PqCOO4R9
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Good grief. ::) Had to be a paranoid anti-religious extremist.
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Good grief. ::) Had to be a paranoid anti-religious extremist.
they also cut out "one nation" and "indivisible"
what do the paranoid religious "victims" think was the purpose of that ?
can't be religion but there must be some way to tie it back to your perpetual feeling of victimhood
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I actually have a copy of the original pledge to the flag from 1892 from the Youth`s Companion where it first appeared as it was written by Francis Bellamy,a Socialist, and it NEVER included the words Under God or The United States even.
It is also now used for the complete opposite reason it was intended.
People are very stupid and know absolutely NOTHING of history.
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http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm
The Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by the socialist minister Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). It was originally published in The Youth's Companion on September 8, 1892. Bellamy had hoped that the pledge would be used by citizens in any country.
In its original form it read:
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
In 1923, the words, "the Flag of the United States of America" were added. At this time it read:
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
In 1954, in response to the Communist threat of the times, President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words "under God," creating the 31-word pledge we say today. Bellamy's daughter objected to this alteration. Today it reads:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Section 4 of the Flag Code states:
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.", should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute."
The original Bellamy salute, first described in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, who authored the original Pledge, began with a military salute, and after reciting the words "to the flag," the arm was extended toward the flag.
At a signal from the Principal the pupils, in ordered ranks, hands to the side, face the Flag. Another signal is given; every pupil gives the flag the military salute — right hand lifted, palm downward, to a line with the forehead and close to it. Standing thus, all repeat together, slowly, "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all." At the words, "to my Flag," the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upward, toward the Flag, and remains in this gesture till the end of the affirmation; whereupon all hands immediately drop to the side.
The Youth's Companion, 1892
Shortly thereafter, the pledge was begun with the right hand over the heart, and after reciting "to the Flag," the arm was extended toward the Flag, palm-down.
In World War II, the salute too much resembled the Nazi salute, so it was changed to keep the right hand over the heart throughout.
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I'm not against the Pledge or Under God, just saying...
(http://chicago.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/5/nazi_salute_1.jpg)
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I'm not against the Pledge or Under God, just saying...
(http://chicago.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/5/nazi_salute_1.jpg)
You do realize that the original intent of the Pledge, which was written by a Socialist, was meant to commemorate the 1892 Columbian Exposition at the World`s Fair in Chicago and nothing else. It was in fact countryless and free from any borders and free from god.
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You do realize that the original intent of the Pledge, which was written by a Socialist, was meant to commemorate the 1892 Columbian Exposition at the World`s Fair in Chicago and nothing else. It was in fact countryless and free from any borders and free from god.
Yes, but I see how giving kids a good brain washing every morning can be a good thing.
The world needs ditch diggers too... :-\
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Yes, but I see how giving kids a good brain washing every morning can be a good thing.
The world needs ditch diggers too... :-\
That was not supposed to be the original intent though. How many Republicans do you think know that the Pledge was written by a Socialist without ever referencing any god or any country?
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That was not supposed to be the original intent though. How many Republicans do you think know that the Pledge was written by a Socialist without ever referencing any god or any country?
None as far as I can tell, we're 14 trillion dollars in debt and they're worried about insignificant shit like this! ;D
I think it's even funnier how these Republicans are hell bent on keeping a woman from having the choice to abort a fetus that's not been born, but they're jumping with joy to send eighteen year old boys to their death in Iraq for no reason.
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None as far as I can tell, we're 14 trillion dollars in debt and they're worried about insignificant shit like this! ;D
I think it's even funnier how these Republicans are hell bent on keeping a woman from having the choice to abort a fetus that's not been born, but they're jumping with joy to send eighteen year old boys to their death in Iraq for no reason.
Republicans, including Ron Poop Paul are pointless. Ron Poop also believes in not letting a woman have that choice.
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I actually have a copy of the original pledge to the flag from 1892 from the Youth`s Companion where it first appeared as it was written by Francis Bellamy,a Socialist, and it NEVER included the words Under God or The United States even.
It is also now used for the complete opposite reason it was intended.
People are very stupid and know absolutely NOTHING of history.
The fact Francis Bellamy was a socialist is about as relevant as him being a Baptist preacher.
Congress added the words "under God" in the 1950s. So what. It's there. And only paranoid anti-religious extremists waste everyone's time complaining about it, or censoring it from a news clip.
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Republicans, including Ron Poop Paul are pointless. Ron Poop also believes in not letting a woman have that choice.
I know... :-\
On the other hand (and I know it's wrong of me) I don't really give a shit if they completely legalize abortion, or completely outlaw it.
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The fact Francis Bellamy was a socialist is about as relevant as him being a Baptist preacher.
Congress added the words "under God" in the 1950s. So what. It's there. And only paranoid anti-religious extremists waste everyone's time complaining about it, or censoring it from a news clip.
It is relevant that he was a Socialist and a minister. Why don`t you learn about him and why he wrote the pledge.
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It is relevant that he was a Socialist and a minister. Why don`t you learn about him and why he wrote the pledge.
The fact he was a Christian Socialist and a Baptist preacher is not relevant to NBC censoring words from the pledge.
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I don't see why it's so freaking important to put under god in there. It wasn't there to begin with and if the pledge was so important, why didn't the founding fathers come up with it.
Here's an interesting Christian perspective on it:
http://christianmarriage.com/home/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11
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I don't see why it's so freaking important to put under god in there. It wasn't there to begin with and if the pledge was so important, why didn't the founding fathers come up with it.
Here's an interesting Christian perspective on it:
http://christianmarriage.com/home/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11
Well that's different. Sounds like a minority "Christian" perspective. I doubt most Christians view the pledge or the flag as an idol.
To me the issue isn't necessarily about the words "under God" as it is censorship.
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Well that's different. Sounds like a minority "Christian" perspective. I doubt most Christians view the pledge or the flag as an idol.
To me the issue isn't necessarily about the words "under God" as it is censorship.
If it's a minority, it doesn't look like a small one.
Actually quite a few christians writing about it, enough that it looks like there is a significant debate on the issue:
About 87,800 results (0.07 seconds)
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=idolatry+%22pledge+of+allegiance%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=cf5fe7836e331b33&biw=1215&bih=746
I just find the people who place such extreme importance in it annoying beyond belief. Quite a few idiots acting like questioning the "under god" is a treasonable offense lol
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If it's a minority, it doesn't look like a small one.
Actually quite a few christians writing about it, enough that it looks like there is a significant debate on the issue:
About 87,800 results (0.07 seconds)
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=idolatry+%22pledge+of+allegiance%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=cf5fe7836e331b33&biw=1215&bih=746
I just find the people who place such extreme importance in it annoying beyond belief. Quite a few idiots acting like questioning the "under god" is a treasonable offense lol
I've never heard a Christian say they view the pledge or the flag as an idol, but I've never asked the question either.
I don't think protecting the words "under God" is some vital national priority. The thing that gets me, in addition to the censorship, is attacks or censorship like this are so unnecessary and often part of a broader hostility to religious expression.
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Maybe TA should go back review just how many time our founding Fathers invoked a "creator" and "God" and "Christian" when this country was in its infancy.
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Maybe TA should go back review just how many time our founding Fathers invoked a "creator" and "God" and "Christian" when this country was in its infancy.
There are several of those documents here: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=378413.0
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I don't think protecting the words "under God" is some vital national priority.
I don't think so either, that's why people who act like one is an enemy of America over it annoys the shit out of me.
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Maybe TA should go back review just how many time our founding Fathers invoked a "creator" and "God" and "Christian" when this country was in its infancy.
why didn't the founders come up with a pledge of allegiance and include God in that pledge? I mean if it was so important that the country be unified under God, you would think they would have done something. Why do we now feel, something they didn't even think there was a need for, is so important?
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why didn't the founders come up with a pledge of allegiance and include God in that pledge? I mean if it was so important that the country be unified under God, you would think they would have done something. Why do we now feel, something they didn't even think there was a need for, is so important?
Go back and see through history and even now and you can plainly see that things are better ran through a God fearing government than a godless one.
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Go back and see through history and even now and you can plainly see that things are better ran through a God fearing government than a godless one.
What years specifically are you referring to? ???
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Go back and see through history and even now and you can plainly see that things are better ran through a God fearing government than a godless one.
So in all of the years we didn't have a pledge of allegiance under god we suffered specifically because of that? Wondering how so, what specific problems do you think it caused for America in the years we didn't have that?
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What do you guys think of this gem: lol
Push Back Horizons of Loyalty
Archie Matson, Rotarian Clergyman
Puente, California
It came out at our Puente Rotary Club United Nations meetingthat our actual loyalty is not to the United Nations, but to single nations.
A century and a half ago we were beginning to develop loyalties to the United States rather than to single States such as Virginia or Massachusetts. Rotary Clubs should be leading the way today in pushing back the horizons of loyalty so that the United Nations comes before the United States just as the United States now comes before individual States. That issue was settled in 1865.
Various suggestions were made by which we could make the United Nations the focus of loyalty. One very simple one was that we get a blue and white United Nations flag, and that we use a world pledge of allegiance such as the following: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the world order for which it stands: one humanity uniting all mankind in peace and justice."
Well, why not?
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Maybe TA should go back review just how many time our founding Fathers invoked a "creator" and "God" and "Christian" when this country was in its infancy.
as should u go back and review
Go back and see through history and even now and you can plainly see that things are better ran through a God fearing government than a godless one.
thats because sheep are easy to control...
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NBC Apologizes To Congress For 'Under God' Edit
7/12/11
By Jack Jenkins
Religion News Service
WASHINGTON (RNS) NBC has issued a formal apology to more than 100 members of Congress for omitting the words "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance during a patriotic montage that aired last month.
The letter, signed by Kyle McSlarrow, president of NBC Universal, comes in response to a complaint by 107 members of Congress alleging that a montage shown during coverage of the U.S. Open golf tournament obscured America's religious heritage.
The montage featured video of schoolchildren saying the pledge alongside images of soldiers and American flags, but did not include the phrase "under God." It also omitted "one nation" and "indivisible."
McSlarrow expressed regret over the segment, saying "a serious error in judgment was made by a small group of people. To be absolutely clear, this was not an ideological decision by the company and was not discussed with or approved by any senior NBC official."
The letter also stressed that action had been taken, noting, "The employees involved have been reprimanded. And we have already implemented a new checks and balances process for pre-produced pieces, ensuring that nothing will go on the air without senior-level approval."
The letter was addressed to Reps. Randy Forbes, R-Va., and Mike McIntyre D-N.C., who co-chair the Congressional Prayer Caucus, but was also sent to more than 100 other members of Congress.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/12/nbc-pledge-under-god_n_896476.html
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Go back and see through history and even now and you can plainly see that things are better ran through a God fearing government than a godless one.
When people already believe in fairy tales they are easier to lead than people who actually use their brain