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Title: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Stark on June 22, 2011, 06:05:47 AM
But you need a fucking license to have a dog?

This is in direct coloration to the microwaved baby article.
I think its time for a change, I think we need to take a step forward and bypass all these pro-life fucking nut jobs and determine a
system in which you have to APPLY for the right to have a baby.

WORLDWIDE!!

That way we get a grip on overpopulation as well, the Chinese for example need to take it easy on babies for a few decades, same with the Paks and Indians.

I would even go further and introduce gene screening.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Fallsview on June 22, 2011, 06:13:59 AM
But you need a fucking license to have a dog?

This is in direct coloration to the microwaved baby article.
I think its time for a change, I think we need to take a step forward and bypass all these pro-life fucking nut jobs and determine a
system in which you have to APPLY for the right to have a baby.

WORLDWIDE!!

That way we get a grip on overpopulation as well, the Chinese for example need to take it easy on babies for a few decades, same with the Paks and Indians.

I would even go further and introduce gene screening.

You're on a slippery slope there...



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: jedibrat on June 22, 2011, 06:16:30 AM
But you need a fucking license to have a dog?

This is in direct coloration to the microwaved baby article.
I think its time for a change, I think we need to take a step forward and bypass all these pro-life fucking nut jobs and determine a
system in which you have to APPLY for the right to have a baby.

WORLDWIDE!!

That way we get a grip on overpopulation as well, the Chinese for example need to take it easy on babies for a few decades, same with the Paks and Indians.

I would even go further and introduce gene screening.

Chinas one child policy will cause severe economic problems down the line when the old and infirm outnumber the young working taxpayers who have to support them. The answer is more complex.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Stark on June 22, 2011, 06:17:01 AM
Also China has a one child policy I believe.

Not anymore - they have stopped that since the balance - male female is now heavily on the side of males, to an extend that millions of young men have no chance of ever getting a wife - they even have a mafia that robs young woman and force marries them.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Marty Champions on June 22, 2011, 07:07:02 AM
only superior individuals of great height thus great working potential should be allowed to duplicate in society
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: BayGBM on June 22, 2011, 07:16:36 AM
But you need a fucking license to have a dog?

This is in direct coloration to the microwaved baby article.
I think its time for a change, I think we need to take a step forward and bypass all these pro-life fucking nut jobs and determine a
system in which you have to APPLY for the right to have a baby.

WORLDWIDE!!

That way we get a grip on overpopulation as well, the Chinese for example need to take it easy on babies for a few decades, same with the Paks and Indians.

I would even go further and introduce gene screening.

Rent it.  Watch it.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Archer77 on June 22, 2011, 07:18:49 AM
I Was flipping through TV channels the other day and happened upon a program about a guy who had fourteen children, none of whom he provide any support, monetary or otherwise.  As you might suspect the baby mommas were all uneducated and on public assistance.  Woman and Men like that should be mandated to be on birth control. The only thing they are doing is bringing more mouths for tax payers to feed. I'd even be willing to pay these people to be sterilized.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: CalvinH on June 22, 2011, 07:21:51 AM
But you need a fucking license to have a dog?

This is in direct coloration to the microwaved baby article.
I think its time for a change, I think we need to take a step forward and bypass all these pro-life fucking nut jobs and determine a
system in which you have to APPLY for the right to have a baby.

WORLDWIDE!!

That way we get a grip on overpopulation as well, the Chinese for example need to take it easy on babies for a few decades, same with the Paks and Indians.

I would even go further and introduce gene screening.



Luckily for you that you knocked out a kid before this happens...
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 22, 2011, 07:27:57 AM
But you need a fucking license to have a dog?

This is in direct coloration to the microwaved baby article.
I think its time for a change, I think we need to take a step forward and bypass all these pro-life fucking nut jobs and determine a
system in which you have to APPLY for the right to have a baby.

WORLDWIDE!!

That way we get a grip on overpopulation as well, the Chinese for example need to take it easy on babies for a few decades, same with the Paks and Indians.

I would even go further and introduce gene screening.

Stark, this wouldn't happen to be the German in you speaking would it?

"1"
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 22, 2011, 08:10:41 AM
But you need a fucking license to have a dog?

This is in direct coloration to the microwaved baby article.
I think its time for a change, I think we need to take a step forward and bypass all these pro-life fucking nut jobs and determine a
system in which you have to APPLY for the right to have a baby.

WORLDWIDE!!

That way we get a grip on overpopulation as well, the Chinese for example need to take it easy on babies for a few decades, same with the Paks and Indians.

I would even go further and introduce gene screening.

I absolutely agree, although it needs to be regulated by our sovereign governments.  Not any kind of world body. 

I know a guy that's a millionaire a few times over, he's got one child, he drives a hybrid, him and his wife are big on recycling, voting, etc...  I've got a relative that has 6 kids, is on disability, and drives around in a giant rusty SUV, husband is nowhere to be found.

 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 22, 2011, 08:14:30 AM
I absolutely agree, although it needs to be regulated by our sovereign governments.  Not any kind of world body. 

I know a guy that's a millionaire a few times over, he's got one child, he drives a hybrid, him and his wife are big on recycling, voting, etc...  I've got a relative that has 6 kids, is on disability, and drives around in a giant rusty SUV, husband is nowhere to be found.

 :-X :-X :-X

My parents and grandparents paid ten times more into social security than they'll probably ever be able to collect, so some fucking savages can collect disability and not do a fucking thing all day.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2011, 08:19:46 AM
Stark, this wouldn't happen to be the German in you speaking would it?

"1"

Beat me to it.  So the Skinhead German guy wants a eugenics program....  ::)
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 22, 2011, 08:22:03 AM
Why is Eugenics a bad thing?  If we're not euthanizing, or forcefully sterilizing anyone I can't see any negatives?
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2011, 08:32:22 AM
Why is Eugenics a bad thing?  If we're not euthanizing, or forcefully sterilizing anyone I can't see any negatives?

I'm guessing most of the people who get the No Breeding stamp haven't had the opportunities that the guy doing the stamping enjoyed.  (*In b4 "It's been a hard knocks life 4 me" story.)  Level the economic, educational, and cultural playing field for a few generations.  Then we'll talk about genetic superiority, if such a notion persists.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 22, 2011, 08:51:37 AM
I'm guessing most of the people who get the No Breeding stamp haven't had the opportunities that the guy doing the stamping enjoyed.  (*In b4 "It's been a hard knocks life 4 me" story.)  Level the economic, educational, and cultural playing field for a few generations.  Then we'll talk about genetic superiority, if such a notion persists.

Are we talking about Eugenics, or the permit to breed?  I guess you're right with the permit to breed, because I think people should have to prove financial responsibility.  Regarding Eugenics, I don't think opportunities given are a big factor since genetic are all that really come into play?
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 22, 2011, 08:53:21 AM
It's not extremely difficult to rise into the middle class where you actually have the capability of supporting your children.  If at first the permit to breed was denied, it would be all the more motivation to focus on getting your shit together.

Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Archer77 on June 22, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
I don't think anybody in their right mind would let a professional of any kind, whether that be a doctor or a mechanic, perform their trade if they continually proved they were incompetent.   So, why is it that we allow individuals who repeatedly demonstrated reproductive irresponsibility to have more children, and in many cases, pay them when they do. 

If we are going to end up paying for them anyway, why not invest that money is more effective programs.  My suggestion would be to offer goods, opportunities and services to these individuals and in exchange they voluntarily put themselves on birth control.   Norplant is inserted directly under the skin and last for several months.  They don't even have to think about it.  The benefits are two fold, no more unwanted children who pose a burden on the system and the participants in the program get an opportunity to better themselves.   
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Ursus on June 22, 2011, 09:16:32 AM
You simply cannot regulate that idea at all.

Impossible.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Voice of Doom on June 22, 2011, 09:18:07 AM
I love when fascist ideas are presented in such a calm and thoughtful manner... ::)
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2011, 09:35:01 AM
Are we talking about Eugenics, or the permit to breed?  I guess you're right with the permit to breed, because I think people should have to prove financial responsibility.  Regarding Eugenics, I don't think opportunities given are a big factor since genetic are all that really come into play?

Brutal evasion.  You use the LHC to split the issue like that?

The converted will eat it up.  Low income white folk.  Om nom nom.


I don't think anybody in their right mind would let a professional of any kind, whether that be a doctor or a mechanic, perform their trade if they continually proved they were incompetent.   So, why is it that we allow individuals who repeatedly demonstrated reproductive irresponsibility to have more children, and in many cases, pay them when they do.  

If we are going to end up paying for them anyway, why not invest that money is more effective programs.  My suggestion would be to offer goods, opportunities and services to these individuals and in exchange they voluntarily put themselves on birth control.   Norplant is inserted directly under the skin and last for several months.  They don't even have to think about it.  The benefits are two fold, no more unwanted children who pose a burden on the system and the participants in the program get an opportunity to better themselves.  

Pure evil?

How about offering the same opportunity for people to 'better themselves' but we don't make it contingent on their sterility?


I love when fascist ideas are presented in such a calm and thoughtful manner... ::)

Why, whatever do you mean?  ;D
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: kiwiol on June 22, 2011, 09:37:40 AM
I ain't got time to breed
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: makaveli25 on June 22, 2011, 09:38:39 AM
People on welfare shouldn't be allowed to breed. I use to be very anti abortion because of my religous beliefts. Not anymore after living down South for awhile and really getting to see the entitlement culture up close my oppionion has changed. People on welfare shouldn't be able to vote or have kids.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Xerxes on June 22, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Level the economic, educational, and cultural playing field for a few generations.  Then we'll talk about genetic superiority, if such a notion persists.

How does one level the cultural playing field?  ???
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Natural Man on June 22, 2011, 09:40:02 AM
nature/evolution will take care of selecting what can live what cant, what can evolve and what cant , dont worry. At the moment in the human specie we developed our own way to select ourselves artifcially, it's called studies, money and job / social classes. It's just an extension of what you find in nature, in all other kind of animal species, it's just more complex because our brains are more complex/developped than animal ones. But the underlying mechanic is the same ; surviving by adapting , learning, sharing, selecting who you re sharing your knowledges -that icnrease your odds of survival-  with and who you re going to prevent from accessing the knowledges you accessed and that icnreased your own chances of survival. You re not going to help everyone , just a small number of selected people. Writting a book is the only way to help a lot of people, but again, few people have something to tell that is really useful, and when you find something important, most of the time people keep it for themselves or their offspring... Or sell it.

Ugly looking kids are being laughed at by everyone, even their family members, and cant do shit about it. Fat people too. Disabled people too, etc etc. And they cant do anything about it. They can develop compesnating techniques to stay alive and feel good.

People who are good looking, have money, dominate constantly other human beings are happier because every life situation put them into a position of dominating other human beings due to their beauty or power. That's how it works.

Hapiness = domination. You can dominate being an asshole and it will get you back when you become weaker, or dominate the benevolent way, calculating that dominating other without hurting them will make them like you in the long term . It takes humility, lot of life experience and...intelligence, self control etc.


At some point mankind will face the risk of mass exctinction like dinosaurs did, but we should be able to survive it because we ve been designed by evolution and natural selection to survive asteroid impacts or anything else of that kind. The question is how many will survive and how will they be selected.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2011, 09:40:57 AM
I ain't got time to breed

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1luLRXKoJM8/Sj4sPTb4wBI/AAAAAAAARuU/HYWJxYOYq08/s400/predator04.jpg)
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: dr.chimps on June 22, 2011, 09:41:07 AM
I ain't got time to breed
You got time to duck?  
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: dr.chimps on June 22, 2011, 09:42:25 AM
And it's Tape at the finish by 10 seconds.   >:(      ;D
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Natural Man on June 22, 2011, 09:43:31 AM
Also just a question stark, but what if more and more people get smarter, richer, happier after accessing education, good jobs, money? it means more competition and more people who will make you feel like you re being dominated. Are you sure it's a great idea everyone becomes smart (dominant) and rich? Fact is natural selection over generations allow only a small percentage of human beings to access this understanding of life. Very few people are able to reverse engeener their life, their influences, their conditionnings and reshape them at the scale of a lifetime. There are tons of people who know exactly what they should do to get better, but still they wont.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2011, 09:45:55 AM
How does one level the cultural playing field?  ???

I'm sure I have no idea.  Cut me some slack, you picky fucker.  I'm trying to defend the common man here.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Xerxes on June 22, 2011, 09:47:37 AM
I'm sure I have no idea.  Cut me some slack, you picky fucker.  I'm trying to defend the common man here.

 ;D :-*
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 22, 2011, 09:55:04 AM
People only should be allowed to breed if they can determine its gonna be a fine ass hoe in the future.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 22, 2011, 10:55:03 AM
Brutal evasion.  You use the LHC to split the issue like that?

HAHAHA!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 22, 2011, 10:58:15 AM
But you need a fucking license to have a dog?

This is in direct coloration to the microwaved baby article.
I think its time for a change, I think we need to take a step forward and bypass all these pro-life fucking nut jobs and determine a
system in which you have to APPLY for the right to have a baby.

WORLDWIDE!!

That way we get a grip on overpopulation as well, the Chinese for example need to take it easy on babies for a few decades, same with the Paks and Indians.

I would even go further and introduce gene screening.
::)
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 22, 2011, 10:58:31 AM
really getting to see the entitlement culture up close my oppionion has changed.

YES!  Some people need a dose of reality!
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: claymore on June 22, 2011, 11:33:42 AM
But you need a fucking license to have a dog?

This is in direct coloration to the microwaved baby article.
I think its time for a change, I think we need to take a step forward and bypass all these pro-life fucking nut jobs and determine a
system in which you have to APPLY for the right to have a baby.

WORLDWIDE!!

That way we get a grip on overpopulation as well, the Chinese for example need to take it easy on babies for a few decades, same with the Paks and Indians.

I would even go further and introduce gene screening.

I like the way you think...
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: Voice of Doom on June 22, 2011, 12:02:40 PM
The problem is the underlying belief that "stupid" people breed "stupid" children and "smart" people breed "smart" children.  History does not generally hold this to be true.  Read up on the 5 Good Roman Emperors :  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Good_Emperors#Five_Good_Emperors

They specifically adopted poor/non-royal children and raised them to be the next emperor bypassing the 'breeding' lineage of the past.  Eugenics as they saw it had directly led to Nero's rule.

Nature loves diversity and has made procreation for the human species a pleasurable experience to encourage it.  Genius often arises from 'simple' genetic material.  If you humans begin culling or weeding out culturally undesirable genetic strains you might be missing the bigger picture.

On a social level, having a voluntary taxation system, would mean people who abhor the welfare system wouldn't have their tax monies go to it...problem solved and done so without the tyranny of controlling others.

I find it interesting that those who advocate Eugenics are damn sure that their lineage would make it to the acceptable queue...I wonder why that is?  ::)

Or you could just say you hate blacks, spics, Jews, chinks, etc considering them inferior and through physical force would exterminate their future on this earth.   Psychopathy is psychopathy regardless of the rhetoric it hinds behind...
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: _bruce_ on June 24, 2011, 03:56:24 PM
Tough topic - the broad gene pool seems to degrade while a small percentage gets top notch.
All "races/cultures/whatever" have great gene carriers - though mostly the poorer ones seem to breed the most. These are often not capable of providing top notch conditions in society for the offspring... which may lead to trouble down the line.

Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 24, 2011, 05:58:55 PM
My parents and grandparents paid ten times more into social security than they'll probably ever be able to collect, so some fucking savages can collect disability and not do a fucking thing all day.

A person can only collect ss disability if they themselves paid into it(x amount of quarters of work needed i believ) Otherwise its a welfare case. Millions of people die right before their 62 and 65 birthday. Never able to collect a penny of their social security. And that number is jumping to 67 pretty soon. The Hierarchy doesn't want you to be able to collect YOUR money. So if someone is on SS disability, all they are doing is collecting "THEIR" money.
Title: Re: Does it not strike you as odd that everybody has the right to breed....
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 24, 2011, 06:04:16 PM
The problem is the underlying belief that "stupid" people breed "stupid" children and "smart" people breed "smart" children.  History does not generally hold this to be true.  Read up on the 5 Good Roman Emperors :  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Good_Emperors#Five_Good_Emperors

They specifically adopted poor/non-royal children and raised them to be the next emperor bypassing the 'breeding' lineage of the past.  Eugenics as they saw it had directly led to Nero's rule.

Nature loves diversity and has made procreation for the human species a pleasurable experience to encourage it.  Genius often arises from 'simple' genetic material.  If you humans begin culling or weeding out culturally undesirable genetic strains you might be missing the bigger picture.

On a social level, having a voluntary taxation system, would mean people who abhor the welfare system wouldn't have their tax monies go to it...problem solved and done so without the tyranny of controlling others.

I find it interesting that those who advocate Eugenics are damn sure that their lineage would make it to the acceptable queue...I wonder why that is?  ::)

Or you could just say you hate blacks, spics, Jews, chinks, etc considering them inferior and through physical force would exterminate their future on this earth.   Psychopathy is psychopathy regardless of the rhetoric it hinds behind...

good post