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Testosterona-E; 300 mg a week.
Deca; 300 mg a week
Masterona; 100 mg a week.
inb4 you are retarded for running masterona at that dose
inb4 you are so dumb
inb4 lol lightweight
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monday 1 c test 0.5 c deca 0.5 c mast
wednesday 0.5 c mast
thursday 1 c test 0.5c deca
friday 0.5c mast
2:1 ratio test/deca
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Congrats. Now all you need is a membership to Gold's Gym, string tank top, 2 spotters, and mediocre results.
Remember son, bbing isn't for everyone. I'm flattered you pretend to be like me. Thanks.
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Congrats. Now all you need is a membership to Gold's Gym, string tank top, 2 spotters, and mediocre results.
Remember son, bbing isn't for everyone. I'm flattered you pretend to be like me. Thanks.
:D
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Congrats. Now all you need is a membership to Gold's Gym, string tank top, 2 spotters, and mediocre results.
Remember son, bbing isn't for everyone. I'm flattered you pretend to be like me. Thanks.
bodybuild is all hormonas,, i keep tellin you fellsa,, no hormonsa = no bdybuild
rm15 approved,,
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I'll be doing a cycle tonight,
cold water,xl load,all darks.....if I have time I might do a cycle of whites next,medium load,cold water again.I have bleach but I'm scared to use it.
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where the hell do you guys get these drugs from anyway? ???
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Dr Dutch says: use clean needles.
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Dr Dutch says: use clean needles.
better to blend them with pwo protein shake and some waxy waize starch to aid absorption.
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Dr Dutch says: use clean needles.
Thanks to the NHS, I have a million clean needles. :)
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Testosterona-E; 300 mg a week.
Deca; 300 mg a week
Masterona; 100 mg a week.
inb4 you are retarded for running masterona at that dose
inb4 you are so dumb
inb4 lol lightweight
congratulations , you ll soon be living in a constant state of complete bliss, unlimited hapiness and everyone will love you and your problems will disapear instantly.
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Is this dose of mast? standard. Is it body fat % dependent?
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where the hell do you guys get these drugs from anyway? ???
The Police? Good question though.
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Don't forget to buy a vernier caliper to properly measure ball shrinkage.
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Congrats. Now all you need is a membership to Gold's Gym, string tank top, 2 spotters, and mediocre results.
Remember son, bbing isn't for everyone. I'm flattered you pretend to be like me. Thanks.
I swear Croatch has an app that tells him when a new steroid topic is started. Seems that is the only time he ever posts :D
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congratulations , you ll soon be living in a constant state of complete bliss, unlimited hapiness and everyone will love you and your problems will disapear instantly.
Wow, how boring.
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where the hell do you guys get these drugs from anyway? ???
From the internet and from my fellow professionals..
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Testosterona-E; 300 mg a week.
Deca; 300 mg a week
Masterona; 100 mg a week.
inb4 you are retarded for running masterona at that dose
inb4 you are so dumb
inb4 lol lightweight
why. whats your reasoning for this other than hoping putting 100mg of masteron in a syringe is actually going to do something.
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why. whats your reasing for this other than hoping putting 100mg of masteron in a syringe is actually going to do something.
I figured that because it's my first cycle, I wouldn't need a lot of masterona.
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I figured that because it's my first cycle, I wouldn't need a lot of masterona.
i get that. but what kind of results do you think 100mg of masteron is going to do?
if your going to follow gh15's advise., then follow it. its not meant to be followed half assed. dont think taking 100mg of masteron is going to do anything cause it wont. your wasting your time.
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i get that. but what kind of results do you think 100mg of masteron is going to do?
if your going to follow gh15's advise., then follow it. its not meant to be followed half assed. dont think taking 100mg of masteron is going to do anything cause it wont. your wasting your time.
Up the dose?
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Up the dose?
yes. at least 300mg a week.
certain compounds require a certain amount of mg per week basis to manifest the results that the compound is know for. masteron is one of them.
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Up the dose?
whats your bodyfat % at?
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I'll be doing a cycle tonight,
cold water,xl load,all darks.....if I have time I might do a cycle of whites next,medium load,cold water again.I have bleach but I'm scared to use it.
;D
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yes. at least 300mg a week.
certain compounds require a certain amount of mg per week basis to manifest the results that the compound is know for. masteron is one of them.
Would I be able to get away with 200 mg/week, as I'm a beginner, or is that 300 mg/week for beginners?
Thanks!
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whats your bodyfat % at?
About 9-10%, 180 lbs @ 6 foot.
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First cycle= test only
Why waste money and gear when test will do a great job alone for a first timer?
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Would you guys recommend keeping the deca and masterona for a second cycle, and just do test at a higher dose?
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Would you guys recommend keeping the deca and masterona for a second cycle, and just do test at a higher dose?
Test at 500 alone...save the other shit,use your head!
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Test at 500 alone...save the other shit,use your head!
this.
your bodyfat is too high for the masteron to show what it does anyway.
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He`ll make awesome gains with just the test for now.
He could take a ton of shit but it would simply be `tupid! ;D
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Excellent, thanks a lot, guys. Will ditch the deca and mast for now, get some more test and do that at 500 mg a week.
Thanks!
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Happy growing! :)
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Happy growing! :)
;D ;D
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Make sure your test ratio is 2:1 or at least 1.5:1
so either 450mg/week or 600
otherwise deca dick will set in and you will be limp
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Make sure your test ratio is 2:1 or at least 1.5:1
so either 450mg/week or 600
otherwise deca dick will set in and you will be limp
I used to believe that this would apply to me but i've run npp and tren together with no test and my dick hardness and performance was at an all time high. I don't recommend that though unless you want to look incredible and have energy all day and night. 8)
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First cycle= test only
Why waste money and gear when test will do a great job alone for a first timer?
Agreed. I aint no aas expert but id say do a 3-4 month cycle. Correct me if im wrong BUT TEST takes about 30 days/ a month too REALLY get in your system/when you TRULY start too feel it working/noticing strength when training, again correct me if im wrong. Ive done only 1 cycle of AAS and that was back in 08. Pharma Med Techs' Test Cypianate.
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i get that. but what kind of results do you think 100mg of masteron is going to do?
if your going to follow gh15's advise., then follow it. its not meant to be followed half assed. dont think taking 100mg of masteron is going to do anything cause it wont. your wasting your time.
This.. 300mg absolute min - you are just shooting oil into yourself thats going to do nothing - waste of space in the syringe..Even 300mg is low..it doesnt matter if its your first cycle or not - bump that test to - to low for real bb results - 500mg is a starting dose for BB for a reason.
Good luck , train hard and enjoy 8)
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"2:1" ratio...."deca dick". rofl. :D
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I'll be doing a cycle tonight,
cold water,xl load,all darks.....if I have time I might do a cycle of whites next,medium load,cold water again.I have bleach but I'm scared to use it.
lmao...
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Would I be able to get away with 200 mg/week, as I'm a beginner, or is that 300 mg/week for beginners?
Thanks!
good first stack. yes, 200 will be what you want.
from William Llewellyn's Anabolics:
for physique- or performance-enhanncing purposes, this drug is usually injected three times per week. the total weekly dosage is typically 200-400 mg, which is taken for 6-12 weeks. this level of use is sufficient to provide measurable gains in lean muscle mass and strength.
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good first stack. yes, 200 will be what you want.
from William Llewellyn's Anabolics:
for physique- or performance-enhanncing purposes, this drug is usually injected three times per week. the total weekly dosage is typically 200-400 mg, which is taken for 6-12 weeks. this level of use is sufficient to provide measurable gains in lean muscle mass and strength.
but in the real world ? come on man 200mg of mast is rubbish - also as its classed as a "hardening" compound he wont notice much till he drops under around the 8% mark in most peoples cases.if he is wanting to put size on stick to the size builders and leave mast till its time to cut - and 400mg and up is a starting point for mast in the real world .
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i side with llewelyn:
"the recommended approach to AAS use is to limit drug intake to the lowest levels necessary to achieve the next rational goal. More aggressive cycles should not be attempted unless one is sure they cannot achieve the results needed on a more moderate program."
he'll have plenty of opportunities to up the dosage for successive cycles if so desired.
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"2:1" ratio...."deca dick". rofl. :D
yeah, i've never heard of using a 2:1 ratio. i was slamming 750 mg of each (or at least 600 mg of deca) per week last cycle. sex drive has never been higher. was also on dbol though.
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llewelyn has a very very conservative approach to gear doses - of course you should start at the lower dose but 200mg of mast will do shit and is a waste - 400mg is a better starting dose for it - it is not a strong drug - just like primo is a cool drug but needs to be run at 700mg to 1grm to see real BB results otherwise its a waste - you dont put this drug in your body to not see the results in the mirror - 200mg of mast will do nothing and thats truth.
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ok. i get what you're saying. but dose effectiveness also has a lot to do with body weight and quantity of lean mass, correct? so what i'm saying is you may look at this dose and scoff at it being probably a big guy and aas veteran. but this kid might be under 150lbs for all we know. for example i know a 17 yr old who started juicing at about 125 lbs. so dose may be appropriate depending on weight, body composition, and desired results.
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bodybuild is all hormonas,, i keep tellin you fellsa,, no hormonsa = no bdybuild
rm15 approved,,
QFT ;D lol
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6 ft 180pd @ 9-10 % I think he said he was - Thats lean if he is correct in giving those numbers - not contest cut but lean none the less - at his height he should be aiming at incresing lean mass - so using the drugs that give you size - build some quality mass over the next couple of years then look to playing with mast imo
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congratulations , you ll soon be living in a constant state of complete bliss, unlimited hapiness and everyone will love you and your problems will disapear instantly.
in pain...
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Thanks a lot for the information, fellas.
I've decided to up the test to 500 mg/week, and to drop the masterona, as it would be a waste at such a low dose and my body fat level.
One more question - would deca at 300 mg/week be a good addition or just a waste?
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IF Y0U'RE N0T G0ING T0 C0MPETE AND BE A PR0 THEN IT'S PRETTY P0INTLESS T0 JUICE. THIS IS WHY I'LL NEVER JUICE.
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IF Y0U'RE N0T G0ING T0 C0MPETE AND BE A PR0 THEN IT'S PRETTY P0INTLESS T0 JUICE. THIS IS WHY I'LL NEVER JUICE.
If you're not going to be a professional F1 racing car driver it's pretty pointless learning how to drive. This is why I walk everywhere.
::)
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If you're not going to be a professional F1 racing car driver it's pretty pointless learning how to drive. This is why I walk everywhere.
::)
0H YAH GREAT C0MPARISI0N. EVERY0NE DRIVES JUST LIKE EVERY0NE TAKES R0IDS. ::) IDI0T.
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. ::) IDI0T.
Idiot isn't spelled with a zero. Spot the irony?
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Idiot isn't spelled with a zero. Spot the irony?
I THINK Y0U NEED T0 TAKE A G00D L00K IN THE MIRR0R, SHED S0ME TEARS, AND THEN HAVE A SITD0WN AND THINK AB0UT WHAT Y0U JUST SAID IN P0ST #52. BECAUSE Y0UR HEAD WAS CLEARLY UP Y0UR ASS WHEN Y0U SAID IT.
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I THINK Y0U NEED T0 TAKE A G00D L00K IN THE MIRR0R, SHED S0ME TEARS, AND THEN HAVE A SITD0WN AND THINK AB0UT WHAT Y0U JUST SAID IN P0ST #52. BECAUSE Y0UR HEAD WAS CLEARLY UP Y0UR ASS WHEN Y0U SAID IT.
Normally I enjoy a battle of wits, but not against an unarmed opponent.
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IF Y0U'RE N0T G0ING T0 C0MPETE AND BE A PR0 THEN IT'S PRETTY P0INTLESS T0 JUICE. THIS IS WHY I'LL NEVER JUICE.
I want to compete, though. Obviously not now, but I would definitely like to at some point. :)
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I THINK Y0U NEED T0 TAKE A G00D L00K IN THE MIRR0R, SHED S0ME TEARS, AND THEN HAVE A SITD0WN AND THINK AB0UT WHAT Y0U JUST SAID IN P0ST #52. BECAUSE Y0UR HEAD WAS CLEARLY UP Y0UR ASS WHEN Y0U SAID IT.
capital letters are getting old. ban this fuck
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capital letters are getting old. ban this fuck
x2
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capital letters are getting old. ban this fuck
Y0U'RE MAD. ;D :'(
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75-100 eod is minimum for mast prop imo
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I'm probably going to be called retarded for doing this, but I didn't buy any anti-estrogen (nolva/clomid) because I thought the masterona would take care of that.
Did I dun goofed?
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why does everyone think you have to want to compete are your stupid if you juice? even most pros dont make anything if you want to be big and strong and are willing to except the risks for your behavior it is not stupid I doubt hardly anyone could even name someone who had serious issues that wasnt also a rec drug user Im sure there out there but if your not severly over weight muscle or fat wise or using rec drugs the risks are very low
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500 mg. test only no post cylcle threapy needed.
See that period after the word needed ;D
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why does everyone think you have to want to compete are your stupid if you juice? even most pros dont make anything if you want to be big and strong and are willing to except the risks for your behavior it is not stupid I doubt hardly anyone could even name someone who had serious issues that wasnt also a rec drug user Im sure there out there but if your not severly over weight muscle or fat wise or using rec drugs the risks are very low
BECAUSE THERE'S N0 P0INT UNLESS Y0U'RE 0VER 40. Y0UR B0DY IS ALREADY PR0DUCING T0NS 0F TEST AND D0ING IT IN Y0UR 20'S AND 30'S W0ULD ST0P Y0UR NATURAL TEST PR0DUCTI0N AND PUT Y0U 0N HRT F0R LIFE.
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500 mg. test only no post cylcle threapy needed.
See that period after the word needed ;D
No PCT?
You just made me a happy bugger!
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500 mg. test only no post cylcle threapy needed.
See that period after the word needed ;D
I think every first cycle should include Dianabola. Such an immediate reward/feel-good steroid that it's a shame not to make the first juice experience as wonderful as possible. :D Hell, you don't want to do more than one compound first time out? Do Dianabol.
Yes I'm a heretic, test should be in every cycle yada yada. :D
Only Disgusted might agree with me. :D
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I think every first cycle should include Dianabola. Such an immediate reward/feel-good steroid that it's a shame not to make the first juice experience as wonderful as possible. :D Hell, you don't want to do more than one compound first time out? Do Dianabol.
Yes I'm a heretic, test should be in every cycle yada yada. :D
Only Disgusted might agree with me. :D
D-Bol`s great but for a first timer,I`d think he`d make great gains with either the test alone,or even the D-Bol alone.
He`d most likely blow up bigtime from either in no time flat regardless, as long as nutrition is in place.
Just me thinking that sometimes less is better.............until further down the road anyway.
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I think every first cycle should include Dianabola. Such an immediate reward/feel-good steroid that it's a shame not to make the first juice experience as wonderful as possible. :D Hell, you don't want to do more than one compound first time out? Do Dianabol.
Yes I'm a heretic, test should be in every cycle yada yada. :D
Only Disgusted might agree with me. :D
that was mine! 300 tabs of metanabol in the orange blister.
those were the days.
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that was mine! 300 tabs of metanabol in the orange blister.
those were the days.
Shit,I`m so old I go back to the original CIBA D-Bols!! :(
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Shit,I`m so old I go back to the original CIBA D-Bols!! :(
I had pink thai 40mg ed and 500mg of legit sustanon amps. I blew up from 180 to 205 pretty quickly. Almost to fast. When I came off I lost all the bloat and was left with a solid 10 pounds of muscle gain. I would use 300-500mg of test and 20mg of dbol for a first time. You will awesome explosive gains! Make sure you eat good!
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Shit,I`m so old I go back to the original CIBA D-Bols!! :(
damn, did you ride your dinosaur to the pharmacy?
:D
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Shit,I`m so old I go back to the original CIBA D-Bols!! :(
I heard those were magical lol.
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They were insane,only 15 mgs. had me lifting buildings.
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damn, did you ride your dinosaur to the pharmacy?
:D
Pharmacy ??
Oh,you mean locker room! ;D
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Yes I'm a heretic, test should be in every cycle yada yada. :D
Only Disgusted might agree with me. :D
no dianabol is sufficiently androgenic to run it alone if you want.
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No PCT?
You just made me a happy bugger!
PCT = 500mg Test - thats your base bro - you go off say bye bye to that muscle.To add quality lean mass you need to be on all the time.
Im with Van - jump start with dball.
Week 1 Test - till you tire of looking Like a bodybuilder 500mg and upwards using diff esters.
Week 1-4 Dbol 20 - 30mg
Week 12 - 16 Dbol 20 - 30mg
Week 12 - 24 Nandralone 300 - 500mg
Keep chucking dbol in here and there to keep it alive.
From there start experimenting with diff drugs more test etc.
Welcome to the dark side as they say - like GH says BB is hormones - no hormones no BB unless you want to walk around at 18% plus and look solid in clothes but fat out of them 8)
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btw as far as post cycle i suggest running nolvadex throughout your entire cycle and for five weeks after finish injectables. clomid is a must for three weeks post cycle. and if longer than eight weeks of injectables hcg is must. there's no need to run a cycle longer than 12 weeks. and if 10 to 12 weeks full post cycle (comprising: nolva, clomid, and hcg is highly recommended)!
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PCT = 500mg Test - thats your base bro - you go off say bye bye to that muscle.To add quality lean mass you need to be on all the time.
Im with Van - jump start with dball.
Week 1 Test - till you tire of looking Like a bodybuilder 500mg and upwards using diff esters.
Week 1-4 Dbol 20 - 30mg
Week 12 - 16 Dbol 20 - 30mg
Week 12 - 24 Nandralone 300 - 500mg
Keep chucking dbol in here and there to keep it alive.
From there start experimenting with diff drugs more test etc.
Welcome to the dark side as they say - like GH says BB is hormones - no hormones no BB unless you want to walk around at 18% plus and look solid in clothes but fat out of them 8)
Excellent. :)
So I shouldn't worry about estrogen?
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Excellent. :)
So I shouldn't worry about estrogen?
Again we all react diffrently to these drugs - I dont have issues with gyno problems - my nipples just get hell sensitive but no gyno type issue with tissue growth so I never worry about it though can always get armidex or nolva if needed - in saying that you "may" do - you wont know till you try so I think to be safe its always wise to have it on hand - especialy whilst working out how your body reacts - when gaining size estrogen is needed so I wouldnt worry about running anything each day unless of course you need it - just have it on hand IMO.
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Again we all react diffrently to these drugs - I dont have issues with gyno problems - my nipples just get hell sensitive but no gyno type issue with tissue growth so I never worry about it though can always get armidex or nolva if needed - in saying that you "may" do - you wont know till you try so I think to be safe its always wise to have it on hand - especialy whilst working out how your body reacts - when gaining size estrogen is needed so I wouldnt worry about running anything each day unless of course you need it - just have it on hand IMO.
Excellent. I just ordered some more test, some dbol and some Nolva.
Appreciate the help, fellas. I'll report back on gains in a few months. :)