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Title: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: The_Hammer on June 26, 2011, 03:18:43 AM
 :o

Boxer Vs. UFC





Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 26, 2011, 03:23:08 AM
James is the man.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: _bruce_ on June 26, 2011, 03:30:33 AM
Holy hell - Ken deflated  :(
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: 2ND COMING on June 26, 2011, 03:32:52 AM
no esta scuffle.

i am disapoint.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 26, 2011, 04:46:04 AM
is james having another mma ufc matchup?
guy needs to retire, nothing to prove at all
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Swede! on June 26, 2011, 04:50:43 AM
is james having another mma ufc matchup?
guy needs to retire, nothing to prove at all

This fight has nothing to do with the ufc..
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: che on June 26, 2011, 06:20:54 AM
The greatest defensive boxer of all time  ::)
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 26, 2011, 07:12:26 AM
:o

Boxer Vs. UFC







James has only been in one MMA match and Randy Colture just wrestled him to the ground and made him submit.  Shamrock will do the same to him but we'll see...err hear since the event is going to be in some Bumfuck federation
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: jaejonna on June 26, 2011, 07:17:14 AM
hahaha @ the title of the video  "Greatest Defensive Boxer of All Time" ...not even top 1000 ...
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 26, 2011, 07:22:31 AM
Folks need to remember that Ken has lost all credibility as a fighter after being involved with the WWF and also following his last UFC fight that was CLEARLY WORKED.

James Toney is just another old boxer, talking smack and wanting to make a quick pay day.  After this make-believe session, they probably went backstage and talked thoroughly about the "plan" during the next Q&A session.

Ken was never a great fighter..

"1"
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Darren Avey on June 26, 2011, 07:28:47 AM
Didnt Shamrock once challenge Tyson, when Tyson was still something?Was that a work or for real
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: johnnynoname on June 26, 2011, 07:48:35 AM
It's all a work
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: che on June 26, 2011, 08:10:26 AM
Life is a work.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: K-1 on June 26, 2011, 08:32:48 AM
I give toney credit for being one of the greatest COUNTER PUNCHERS in boxing , but defensive great? HELL to the F NO!!!! He's not even top 100 imo.

I do however like his shoulder roll counters...they work in sparring vs faster guys.

Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 26, 2011, 08:43:18 AM
hahaha @ the title of the video  "Greatest Defensive Boxer of All Time" ...not even top 1000 ...

what makes you think that?
he was an excellent defensive boxer
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Rami on June 26, 2011, 08:59:13 AM
how weak was that. pro wrestling is much more real.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: kevcat on June 26, 2011, 09:07:36 AM
Folks need to remember that Ken has lost all credibility as a fighter after being involved with the WWF and also following his last UFC fight that was CLEARLY WORKED.

James Toney is just another old boxer, talking smack and wanting to make a quick pay day.  After this make-believe session, they probably went backstage and talked thoroughly about the "plan" during the next Q&A session.

Ken was never a great fighter..

"1"

Shamrock WAS a great fighter dumbass
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Boost on June 26, 2011, 09:17:12 AM
Brother Frank shamrock had one of the best physiques in MMA history

Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: che on June 26, 2011, 09:19:48 AM
what makes you think that?
he was an excellent defensive boxer

Good not excellent .
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Natural Man on June 26, 2011, 09:27:18 AM
(http://blastmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/facepalm.jpg)  @ this whole thread.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Big Worm on June 26, 2011, 10:00:56 AM
Guys like James Toney ,turn up dead with an axe in the head,in a Parking Lot..
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on June 26, 2011, 10:14:03 AM
LOL typical negroid can't control himself.  Ken is in complete control even smiling.  Shamrock even at his age would have clobbered that fat fucking turd. 

My go though Ken has fucking deflated for sure.  He's soft as hell.  LOL Doctor probably told him to stop the roids.   Seriously though getting old has got to be like hell for these dumbasses. 
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: the Algebra Wizard on June 26, 2011, 11:06:13 AM
:o

Boxer Vs. UFC







Quite a down sized Shamrock , from past appearances ..  Has  nothing do with his skills ....
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 26, 2011, 11:15:12 AM
Shamrock WAS a great fighter dumbass

Really?  

Go look up his career stats and out of the 45 fights that he fought, 17 of which he lost, let me know which of the 28 wins came after fighting 1st tier fighters.

Also, if we take a closer look at the fights which he did win, you will notice that there is an overwhelming amount of speculation regarding the...wait...just a...wait, wait a minute...

You don't even have 1000 posts on this forum and you're not even one of the key characters on this site that I would otherwise recognize with a low post count.  You're....just a newbie...

You know what, just go home, unzip your father's pants, give him a solid blow job and make sure to lick your potential siblings off of his scrotum once he is done.

Dumbass..
"1"

Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: jaejonna on June 26, 2011, 12:56:21 PM
what makes you think that?
he was an excellent defensive boxer

Mayweather
B-hop
Roy Jones
Ali ....

Those are/were defensive fighters in their prime...Toney ..hahahah yeah ok  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: MAXX on June 26, 2011, 12:59:44 PM
Brother Frank shamrock had one of the best physiques in MMA history


yeah back in the 90's when he was juicin
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Jaime on June 26, 2011, 01:30:43 PM
Mayweather
B-hop
Roy Jones
Ali ....

Those are/were defensive fighters in their prime...Toney ..hahahah yeah ok  ::) ::) ::) ::)



Not really.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: G_Thang on June 26, 2011, 01:44:17 PM
Mayweather
B-hop
Roy Jones
Ali ....

Those are/were defensive fighters in their prime...Toney ..hahahah yeah ok  ::) ::) ::) ::)

I'd take FMW out this group.  Fucker has ducked some of the best fighters of generation the last 5 yrs, especially.  Judah exposed his defense for the 1st 3rd of their fight.

Hey cheesy toes, who you have in the khan vs judah fight? Judah has been pretty solid since he moved back to light welterweight, and  khan is still a chin shot away from going down.  
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: che on June 26, 2011, 02:00:02 PM
I'd take FMW out this group.  Fucker has ducked some of the best fighters of generation the last 5 yrs, especially.  Judah exposed his defense for the 1st 3rd of their fight.

Hey cheesy toes, who you have in the khan vs judah fight? Judah has been pretty solid since he moved back to light welterweight, and  khan is still a chin shot away from going down.  


Khan wins  , Judah is done  lost his fight against Matthysse , BTW Matthysse got robbed again last night against Devon Alexander.


Best defensive boxer of all time ,I hope this helps .
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: King Shizzo on June 26, 2011, 02:02:54 PM
It seems like all of the fighters in the early mma days did not transition well into todays standard of fighting.  The newest example of this is Tito Ortiz. He was widely considered one of the most dominant fighters of his era.  Now he is getting worked over by 3rd tier deaf guys.  Royce Gracie wouldn't be anywhere near as good if he were fighting today's mma athletes.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: G_Thang on June 26, 2011, 02:04:56 PM
Khan wins  , Judah is done  lost his fight against Matthysse , BTW Matthysse got robbed again last night against Devon Alexander.


Best defensive boxer of all time ,I hope this helps .


No market for Matthysse in the states, so what you think will happen every time he fights a potential contender?

Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: che on June 26, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
No market for Matthysse in the states, so what you think will happen every time he fights a potential contender?


Unless he wins by KO  he will lose again ,I feel bad for the guy.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: funk51 on June 26, 2011, 02:22:45 PM
Mayweather
B-hop
Roy Jones
Ali ....

Those are/were defensive fighters in their prime...Toney ..hahahah yeah ok  ::) ::) ::) ::)
larry holmes greatest jab of all time=greatest defensive fighter. guy can still fight and is far from brain dead at an advanced age.go to boxingrec.com to see.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: mame09 on June 26, 2011, 11:18:24 PM
Mayweather
B-hop
Roy Jones
Ali ....

Those are/were defensive fighters in their prime...Toney ..hahahah yeah ok  ::) ::) ::) ::)

1. mayweather cant hold toney gloves when it comes to defence. he is a poor mans toney.

2. b-flop is a bum compared to toney in defence. shit... toney is superior in everyway.  b-flop is too scared to move up to heavy.

3. roy jones is a genetic freak. there is never going to be another roy jones.  you can see he has no boxing skills just genes

4. ali had very good defence but he was all genes. once he came out of prison he lost some speed. he didnt have the legs like he did when he was clay. he still had head movement but was never the same


toney is the one of the few masters in a paticular fighting style (shoulder roll) 


can you name any defensive masters who relied on skill dumbass?
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 26, 2011, 11:44:51 PM
shamhock is going to get killed, he should have retired 15 years ago and left a semi-decent legacy behind

after getting his ass annihilated by ortiz those last few times he's become a joke of himself..
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Kwon_2 on June 27, 2011, 03:36:37 AM
Wayne Kilpatrick is a legend.

Back in his Prime around 96, Shammy was one of the best.

Yes, he WAS a great fighter.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on June 27, 2011, 05:09:14 AM
you have to know boxing to appreciate James Toney's defence
Guy was old school, used to do the Philly shell like Archie Moore back in the days.

Tuck your left shoulder against your chin, ride the right hand coming from your opponent then come back with a counter punch.
This style isnt easy to employ and takes many many years to get it right.
Lets face it, Toney wasnt known really for his punching power or speed, it was his skills that made his successful in so many weightclasses.

People who claim Toney's defence wasnt top notch dont know boxing.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: _bruce_ on June 27, 2011, 05:25:49 AM
shamhock is going to get killed, he should have retired 15 years ago and left a semi-decent legacy behind

after getting his ass annihilated by ortiz those last few times he's become a joke of himself..


x2 - what's wrong with him. Plus he's off the juice.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Disgusted on June 27, 2011, 11:27:33 AM
Anyone know Shamrock's fight record?
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Swede! on June 27, 2011, 11:31:53 AM
Anyone know Shamrock's fight record?

would take 15 sec to type his name into google and check wiki? so yes Everyone in the world knows if they do that.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Benny B on June 27, 2011, 11:40:16 AM
1. mayweather cant hold toney gloves when it comes to defence. he is a poor mans toney.

2. b-flop is a bum compared to toney in defence. shit... toney is superior in everyway.  b-flop is too scared to move up to heavy.

3. roy jones is a genetic freak. there is never going to be another roy jones.  you can see he has no boxing skills just genes

4. ali had very good defence but he was all genes. once he came out of prison he lost some speed. he didnt have the legs like he did when he was clay. he still had head movement but was never the same


toney is the one of the few masters in a paticular fighting style (shoulder roll) 


can you name any defensive masters who relied on skill dumbass?
This post is chock full of WRONG.  ::)
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Disgusted on June 27, 2011, 11:42:18 AM
would take 15 sec to type his name into google and check wiki? so yes Everyone in the world knows if they do that.

and it took longer for you to type this.  ::)
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Swede! on June 27, 2011, 11:45:44 AM
and it took longer for you to type this.  ::)

teach a man how to fish
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Disgusted on June 27, 2011, 11:52:48 AM
teach a man how to fish

 ;D
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: makaveli25 on June 27, 2011, 11:54:30 AM
I hope they both kill eachother that would be really great.
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 27, 2011, 12:56:53 PM
Anyone know Shamrock's fight record?

Not offhand but I'm pretty sure he hasn't won a fight since about 1996
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: _bruce_ on June 27, 2011, 01:57:57 PM
According to sherhog it's...
28  -  15  -  2
Title: Re: James Toney and Ken Shamrock Get Into Scuffle
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 27, 2011, 02:06:23 PM
PERNELL WHITTAKER is the best defense ever by far... toney also