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And this is from Fox News. Definitely won't be winning the black vote
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/09/bachmann-stands-by-marriage-pledge-that-links-slavery-to-black-family-values/
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Is she out of her fucking mind. And this came from Fox News. Maybe David Duke is her running mate
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/09/bachmann-stands-by-marriage-pledge-that-links-slavery-to-black-family-values/#comment
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Is she out of her fucking mind. And this came from Fox News. Maybe David Duke is her running mate
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/09/bachmann-stands-by-marriage-pledge-that-links-slavery-to-black-family-values/#comment
Are you mad that she says a black baby born in the slavery days is more likely to have two parents than a post obama black baby today?
This is undeniable truth
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"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President," the opening statement reads."
Is this factual or not?
And how exactly does this equate to the KKK?
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Are you mad that she says a black baby born in the slavery days is more likely to have two parents than a post obama black baby today?
This is undeniable truth
I think the last thing black baby had to worry about was having two parents. Most of them were sold off to other plantations once they turned 12 for profit and forced to have more children no different from breeding dogs or horses.... >:(
(http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2009/08/index.jpg)
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Are you mad that she says a black baby born in the slavery days is more likely to have two parents than a post obama black baby today?
This is undeniable truth
Quite possibly 3 parents, the dude who fathered it, and the one who jumped the broom to take car of it...
But, slave marriages or families weren't "legal" or recognized by law. Many times on the auction block, mothers were sold seperately from their kids, and "husbands" from wives...and don't let the woman be pretty, dude will never see her again.
Sometimes, they would be from diff plantations and "marry" one another, but could only see each other once in a blue moon. Basically, shit was fucked up then, just as shit is fucked up now. And this dumb chick try to "Romanticize" slavery and and the family unit.
also, if Bachmann was born back then, she would be busy writing in her diary of how her husband spent more time in the slave quarters or the slave whorehouses than with her...and she wouldn't be runnng her mouth, or running for anything...so, I guess that era would have been better for her as well.
There was a prominant one (slave whorehouse) in Raleigh....catered only to Southern gentlemen...I forgot the name of it.
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Slavery has been great for the descendants no doubt. Prove me wrong. Look what you got now. If there was no slavery you would be in Africa speaking a different language.
Thank your black ancestors for selling you off into slavery. You were sold by your own from the start.
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fact, our ancestors have all been slaves at one point or another in history. study suggest million or more European Christians were enslaved in North Africa,
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/whtslav.htm
and I don't think Europeans are stuck up about it, or take offense when someones mention a historical fact involving this.
Vince G seem like such a cry baby for attention.
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blacks were bored they couldve rebelled if they wanted to many chose to work in they feilds and fuckin dey asses. Life was good back then no distractions, work seemed like fun , nothing else to do, no video games, no places to go, just enjoy nature workin and eatin n fuckin
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fact, our ancestors have all been slaves at one point or another in history. study suggest million or more European Christians were enslaved in North Africa,
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/whtslav.htm
and I don't think Europeans are stuck up about it, or take offense when someones mention a historical fact involving this.
Vince G seem like such a cry baby for attention.
Well since you put it that way..... ::)
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"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President," the opening statement reads."
Is this factual or not?
And how exactly does this equate to the KKK?
Of course it is factual. Just look around you what's going on. What more proof do you need. You don't have to show anything, just open your eyes and look around!
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Of course it is factual. Just look around you what's going on. What more proof do you need. You don't have to show anything, just open your eyes and look around!
The point is was trying to make that how is it "racist" KKK material if it is indeed factual. It appears to me that they are saying the black community is so fucked up because of so few 2 parent families. And the government is not innocent in this shit either. They have effectively replaced the role of the male with all their "assistance" programs. I still fail to see the logic of the black community voting majority democrat, they shed one for of slavery for another.
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blacks were bored they couldve rebelled if they wanted to many chose to work in they feilds and fuckin dey asses. Life was good back then no distractions, work seemed like fun , nothing else to do, no video games, no places to go, just enjoy nature workin and eatin n fuckin
There is truth to this as for the most part slaves where treated VERY WELL by people of note and wealth lest they want to be cast in a poor light as a brute among high society. Slaves usually ended up bankrupting the estate as their families grew, hence more mouths to feed, more buildings and quarters to built. Masters also grew close to many of their slaves. For instance, the first owner of my house had slaves and gave a few each acreage and ownership rights to that land to do as they wish with.
When the Slaves were Emancipated many of them were lost, torn from their families and had nowhere to go and nothing to do. They no longer had the care of their masters and the North DID NOT WANT TO EMPLOY or treat Blacks as equals. In fact, the North could not stand the thought of blacks migrating. A few brave African-Americans migrated north in trickles only to be met with extreme racism and a poor existence. Many returned back to the south hoping to link back up with their former masters. Most, who did not try to migrate, wished to stay on with their masters as the North provided Zero opportunity.
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95ers can't deal w the reality of the situation.
If blacks followed sowell, rice, powell, thomas, shelby steele, waltyer williams, etc as opposed to the ghetto thus race hustlers and poverty pimps like obama sharpton jesse etc they would be infinitely better off.
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blacks were bored they couldve rebelled if they wanted to many chose to work in they feilds and fuckin dey asses. Life was good back then no distractions, work seemed like fun , nothing else to do, no video games, no places to go, just enjoy nature workin and eatin n fuckin
Sounds familar.....
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There is truth to this as for the most part slaves where treated VERY WELL by people of note and wealth lest they want to be cast in a poor light as a brute among high society. Slaves usually ended up bankrupting the estate as their families grew, hence more mouths to feed, more buildings and quarters to built. Masters also grew close to many of their slaves. For instance, the first owner of my house had slaves and gave a few each acreage and ownership rights to that land to do as they wish with.
When the Slaves were Emancipated many of them were lost, torn from their families and had nowhere to go and nothing to do. They no longer had the care of their masters and the North DID NOT WANT TO EMPLOY or treat Blacks as equals. In fact, the North could not stand the thought of blacks migrating. A few brave African-Americans migrated north in trickles only to be met with extreme racism and a poor existence. Many returned back to the south hoping to link back up with their former masters. Most, who did not try to migrate, wished to stay on with their masters as the North provided Zero opportunity.
Sorry, I don't think picking cotton from dusk to dawn, sleeping in old shacks, wearing ragged clothes, eating the waste parts of a pig, and an occassional whipping to work harder or to stop scratching is a great work opportunity. If they went bankrupt from having so many slaves then it serves them right. Besides that, my grandmother told me exactly how they treated her grandmother and grandpa and it wasn't no picnic.
There isn't any white person alive that would trade places with a black slave...even if he was a house slave. As Aesop would say.....Lean Freedom is better than Fat Slavery.
Of course we are missing the point of what I wrote. Michelle Bachmann should next time read before she signs her name to something.
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Are you mad that she says a black baby born in the slavery days is more likely to have two parents than a post obama black baby today?
This is undeniable truth
Also more likely to sired by the Master, and then, later, split up from it's 'parents' and sold. Rastus Falcon did not fly high, or true. :-\
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also, if Bachmann was born back then, she would be busy writing in her diary of how her husband spent more time in the slave quarters or the slave whorehouses than with her...and she wouldn't be runnng her mouth, or running for anything...so, I guess that era would have been better for her as well.
Haha..so true. This chick doesn't stand a chance in hell anyway.
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Sorry, I don't think picking cotton from dusk to dawn, sleeping in old shacks, wearing ragged clothes, eating the waste parts of a pig, and an occassional whipping to work harder or to stop scratching is a great work opportunity. If they went bankrupt from having so many slaves then it serves them right. Besides that, my grandmother told me exactly how they treated her grandmother and grandpa and it wasn't no picnic.
There isn't any white person alive that would trade places with a black slave...even if he was a house slave. As Aesop would say.....Lean Freedom is better than Fat Slavery.
Of course we are missing the point of what I wrote. Michelle Bachmann should next time read before she signs her name to something.
The North, after the Civil War, presented no opportunities for the Black man. The Evil Master myth is also simply not true all the way around. If I were black in the South, I would have remained in the South after the Civil War, hopefully with the master (provided he was one of the many good ones) rather than venture up north and be treated with much less respect than the South. The slaves were OUTSTANDING Artisans and tradesmen in the South, they were unable to practice any trade in the North. Nobody wanted them there. At least in the South they could gain notoriety and practice a trade and even remain taken care of.
If they wanted to get worked to death and have door after door shut on their faces, shot in the street and no chance of owning anything, the North, after the Civil War was the perfect place a Black man could go.
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Sorry, I don't think picking cotton from dusk to dawn, sleeping in old shacks, wearing ragged clothes, eating the waste parts of a pig, and an occassional whipping to work harder or to stop scratching is a great work opportunity. If they went bankrupt from having so many slaves then it serves them right. Besides that, my grandmother told me exactly how they treated her grandmother and grandpa and it wasn't no picnic.
There isn't any white person alive that would trade places with a black slave...even if he was a house slave. As Aesop would say.....Lean Freedom is better than Fat Slavery.
Of course we are missing the point of what I wrote. Michelle Bachmann should next time read before she signs her name to something.
First of all not all blacks in the south were slaves, second there were black slave owners. So before you start with the whitey shit learn your fucking history.
You know slavery was abolished 148 years ago, yet you still cry about it like you were just free'd.
And wasn't it AG gun runner Holder who called this a nation of cowards when it comes to talking about race relations. Gee no wonder no one wants to talk about anything, the cries of racism can be heard far and wide by the same bunch of fuckheads who have kept black people in the exact same station in life.
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The point is was trying to make that how is it "racist" KKK material if it is indeed factual. It appears to me that they are saying the black community is so fucked up because of so few 2 parent families. And the government is not innocent in this shit either. They have effectively replaced the role of the male with all their "assistance" programs. I still fail to see the logic of the black community voting majority democrat, they shed one for of slavery for another.
Ok, I misunderstood. Sorry.
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The North, after the Civil War, presented no opportunities for the Black man. The Evil Master myth is also simply not true all the way around. If I were black in the South, I would have remained in the South after the Civil War, hopefully with the master (provided he was one of the many good ones) rather than venture up north and be treated with much less respect than the South. The slaves were OUTSTANDING Artisans and tradesmen in the South, they were unable to practice any trade in the North. Nobody wanted them there. At least in the South they could gain notoriety and practice a trade and even remain taken care of.
If they wanted to get worked to death and have door after door shut on their faces, shot in the street and no chance of owning anything, the North, after the Civil War was the perfect place a Black man could go.
Correction: There was no place to go, a black man just took their chances either way. If I was around, I would have ran west. Rather get an arrow in my ass.
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If michelle Bachman thinks she can get elected like this....think again
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If michelle Bachman thinks she can get elected like this....think again
Yeah lets sit and cry about imagined racism, while the current administration is up to it eyeballs in an arms scandal ::)
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Correction: There was no place to go, a black man just took their chances either way. If I was around, I would have ran west. Rather get an arrow in my ass.
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In 2011 I'm sure you would like an arrow up your ass as well.
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I think the last thing black baby had to worry about was having two parents. Most of them were sold off to other plantations once they turned 12 for profit and forced to have more children no different from breeding dogs or horses.... >:(
(http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2009/08/index.jpg)
ROFLMAO, did you do this intentionally Vince? That newspaper is from my town. I know exactly where Turnbull and August lived. Just a few houses down.
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ROFLMAO, did you do this intentionally Vince? That newspaper is from my town. I know exactly where Turnbull and August lived. Just a few houses down.
No, that was a random Google and didn't notice at the bottom.
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No, that was a random Google and didn't notice at the bottom.
Well, this place was the absolutely wealthiest in all of North Carolina pre Civil War. Nearly all of the houses still stand proudly. A lot of history here. Nothing really has changed since the Civil War. My Summer Kitchen is actually covered under the beams with old newspaper, the same one you posted.
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Black vote is meaningless since it goes 95 percent demo regardless of anything.
This might get her voted if the cry babies harp on it.
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Well, this place was the absolutely wealthiest in all of North Carolina pre Civil War. Nearly all of the houses still stand proudly. A lot of history here. Nothing really has changed since the Civil War. My Summer Kitchen is actually covered under the beams with old newspaper, the same one you posted.
Well, Colonrl Montgomery couldn't travel to every town in N.C..... ;D
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Is she out of her fucking mind. And this came from Fox News. Maybe David Duke is her running mate
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/09/bachmann-stands-by-marriage-pledge-that-links-slavery-to-black-family-values/#comment
There was nothing racist about what she said. She's telling the truth. Too many black babies are born out of wedlock and live without a father.
The so-called black leaders aren't addressing the plight within the black community. They're too busy kneepadding, waiting for Obama (or some other Democrat) to take from those evil rich white people and give it to them.
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There was nothing racist about what she said. She's telling the truth. Too many black babies are born out of wedlock and live without a father.
The so-called black leaders aren't addressing the plight within the black community. They're too busy kneepadding, waiting for Obama (or some other Democrat) to take from those evil rich white people and give it to them.
And that's worse than slavery.....bahahahahaha ha!!!!!! With that kind of thinking, she can't get herself elected, in fact, I bet she won't even be able to maintain her current office
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And airsoft guns can be converted in to real machine guns.
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I don't think this statement below can be proved, so in light of only that, I don't think it should have been made. There are also other problems with making a statement like this but there is no need to discuss all of them.
Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President," the opening statement reads
Santorum also does not understand the abortion issue.
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I don't think this statement below can be proved, so in light of only that, I don't think it should have been made. There are also other problems with making a statement like this but there is no need to discuss all of them.
Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President," the opening statement reads
Santorum also does not understand the abortion issue.
Exactly, they really are out of touch when you make statements or write stuff like this. Its stuff like this that's going to be used in future ads.
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Exactly, they really are out of touch when you make statements or write stuff like this. Its stuff like this that's going to be used in future ads.
Yeah, out of touch. Too bad many blacks want to be lied to and told bullshit as opposed to truth and reality.
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Exactly, they really are out of touch when you make statements or write stuff like this. Its stuff like this that's going to be used in future ads.
Out of touch with what? You like to make these sweeping generalizations, wait are you related to the POTUS?
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Black vote is meaningless since it goes 95 percent demo regardless of anything.
This might get her voted if the cry babies harp on it.
Blacks are the biggest racists of all. Racism is necessary for survival of a race. If there never was racism there would not have been whites, blacks, chinese, mexcians etc. Everyone would look the same. How boring. That is what the New World Order aims for: a boring mulatto population
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Funny how vince gets all upset over this yet probably thought rev wright was no big deal.
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Blacks are the biggest racists of all. Racism is necessary for survival of a race. If there never was racism there would not have been whites, blacks, chinese, mexcians etc. Everyone would look the same. How boring. That is what the New World Order aims for: a boring mulatto population
You're a little late to the party. The country is full of mixed race people. Come visit my state sometime. :)
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The Disappearing Black Middle Class
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 10, 2011 | JESSE WASHINGTON
Posted on July 10, 2011 5:41:31 PM EDT by nickcarraway
Millions of Americans endured financial calamities in the recession. But for many in the black community, job loss has knocked them out of the middle class and back into poverty. And some experts warn of a historic reversal of hard-won economic gains that took black people decades to achieve.
“History is going to say the black middle class was decimated” over the past few years, said Maya Wiley, director of the Center for Social Inclusion. “But we’re not done writing history.”
Adds Algernon Austin, director of the Economic Policy Institute’s Program on Race, Ethnicity and the Economy: “The recession is not over for black folks.”
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Click to Add Topic
Obamas economic programs are more racist than this pledge.
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So the argument that Vince and other morons in this thread are making basically comes down to the idea that telling the truth is out of touch with reality?
What she said is accurate and verifiable.
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So the argument that Vince and other morons in this thread are making basically comes down to the idea that telling the truth is out of touch with reality?
What she said is accurate and verifiable.
Have you ever seen the POTUS speak, yes telling the truth is out of touch with reality ;D
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You're a little late to the party. The country is full of mixed race people. Come visit my state sometime. :)
Oh I don't doubt that. What I am saying is because of racism you have races. The very diversity that is celebrated in the world right now is only possible because of racism. Mixed race people are not diverse. What can be more diverse than having a pitch black and snow white person walking down the street. That's diverse! Let's keep it that way. Mixed race is boring.
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Oh I don't doubt that. What I am saying is because of racism you have races. The very diversity that is celebrated in the world right now is only possible because of racism. Mixed race people are not diverse. What can be more diverse than having a pitch black and snow white person walking down the street. That's diverse! Let's keep it that way. Mixed race is boring.
Meh. What's the big deal? Everyone should be comfortable in their own skin. And no one should be obsessed with trying to preserve (or prefer) one race over another. There has been so much race mixing that it's a pretty pointless exercise anyway. That's why I think race-based statistics are completely unreliable.
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Remember, there is no such thing as race. Nobody can define it.
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Funny how vince gets all upset over this yet probably thought rev wright was no big deal.
he disowned the man and condemned everything he ever said.
that's "no big deal"?
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he disowned the man and condemned everything he ever said.
that's "no big deal"?
Who Vince?
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The Disappearing Black Middle Class
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 10, 2011 | JESSE WASHINGTON
Posted on July 10, 2011 5:41:31 PM EDT by nickcarraway
Millions of Americans endured financial calamities in the recession. But for many in the black community, job loss has knocked them out of the middle class and back into poverty. And some experts warn of a historic reversal of hard-won economic gains that took black people decades to achieve.
“History is going to say the black middle class was decimated” over the past few years, said Maya Wiley, director of the Center for Social Inclusion. “But we’re not done writing history.”
Adds Algernon Austin, director of the Economic Policy Institute’s Program on Race, Ethnicity and the Economy: “The recession is not over for black folks.”
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Click to Add Topic
Obamas economic programs are more racist than this pledge.
Free Republic is another white supremecist forum...didn't I already tell ya that ;)
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Funny how vince gets all upset over this yet probably thought rev wright was no big deal.
What does Rev Wright have to do with this. We're talking about a person running for office who is either oblivious, idiotic, or simply out of touch signing the preamble of a pledge that is insensitive to the values of America and expects to be elected to the highest office...... ::)
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Blacks are the biggest racists of all. Racism is necessary for survival of a race. If there never was racism there would not have been whites, blacks, chinese, mexcians etc. Everyone would look the same. How boring. That is what the New World Order aims for: a boring mulatto population
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Lmfao. Rev wrights 911 cts are ok but bachmann not ok.
Typical.
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So the argument that Vince and other morons in this thread are making basically comes down to the idea that telling the truth is out of touch with reality?
What she said is accurate and verifiable.
So she can verify that a baby born in slavery days is better off than a baby born today.
Well, I'll let her borrow this but she'll need to bring it back when she's done.
(http://lucianogalasso.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/back2future.jpg)
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Lmfao. Rev wrights 911 cts are ok but bachmann not ok.
Typical.
You should stop ASSuming things. Of course, his comments about America are not ok and as a result of all the media, the church board finally got enough votes to kick him out to the pasture.
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You should stop ASSuming things. Of course, his comments about America are not ok and as a result of all the media, the church board finally got enough votes to kick him out to the pasture.
No, that would be Rev. Wrights' affair with the wife of someone in the church, his buying a huge mansion with church money, etc.
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And that's worse than slavery.....bahahahahaha ha!!!!!! With that kind of thinking, she can't get herself elected, in fact, I bet she won't even be able to maintain her current office
Laugh at yourself, O cracked one. No one, including Bachmann, made such a claim. The point, which you missed by a country mile, is that there are TOO MANY BLACK CHILDREN born out of wedlock and living in one-parent homes.
Yet, you are too busy falling prostrate before Obama to realize that simple but painful fact. Bachmann is addressing a painful reality within the black community, that needs to be addressed and fixed like yesterday. And you come up with this foolishness.
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Laugh at yourself, O cracked one. No one, including Bachmann, made such a claim. The point, which you missed by a country mile, is that there are TOO MANY BLACK CHILDREN born out of wedlock and living in one-parent homes.
Yet, you are too busy falling prostrate before Obama to realize that simple but painful fact. Bachmann is addressing a painful reality within the black community, that needs to be addressed and fixed like yesterday. And you come up with this foolishness.
Vince, like blacken, 240, benny, straw, andre, and others, have sold their souls in order to support obama and will attack anyone they perceive as a threat to the messiah, "The one we have been waiting for"
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Vince, like blacken, 240, benny, straw, andre, and others, have sold their souls in order to support obama and will attack anyone they perceive as a threat to the messiah, "The one we have been waiting for"
Next thing you know, the members of TK will erect a 90-ft image of "The Anointed One" and bow down at the sound of the lute and the harp (or the unofficial-official TK theme song).
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Next thing you know, the members of TK will erect a 90-ft image of "The Anointed One" and bow down at the sound of the lute and the harp (or the unofficial-official TK theme song).
Its disgusting, they give their loyalty and self respect to a communist pofs who has done nothing whatsoever to deserve it other than wash away their white guilt for a vote and lie to the public in order to create an image as being sometihng he never was, is, or ever will be.
Left wing blacks like Vince, Benny, Andre, who think Obama is one of them are a fucking joke. I have more in common with them being from the Boogie Down than Obama ever will, yet they act like Obama shares their experiences and vantage point. pathetic and sad.
Between, prep school in Hawaii, Harvard, Occidental, Columbia, etc, Obama has lived mostly a privileged life these jerkoffs cant ever hope to yet they act like he was walking the streets of Brooklyn his whole life.
As for Bachmann's pledge, its stupid and she should not have signed it from a political point of view given the media bs. But she was and is right about the issue, too bad socialist blacks, and their guilt ridden white yuppie pieces of liberal trash, are not looking for the truth, they want daddy govt to replace a real father.
Funny, when real black heros come along who actually busted their ass, they get no respect at all.
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Vince, like blacken, 240, benny, straw, andre, and others, have sold their souls in order to support obama and will attack anyone they perceive as a threat to the messiah, "The one we have been waiting for"
hahaha your making us sound like crazy brain washed christains
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hahaha your making us sound like crazy brain washed christains
No, just kneepadding blind sheep who support literally anything and everything coming from this disastrous WH and willing to attack anyone who dares says anything remotely to be the truth who is perceived as a threat to the messiah.
Bachmann is on the rise so you all go into reflexive attack mode on anything she says or does, same when it was Palin on the rise, Trump, Ryan, etc etc.
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No, just kneepadding blind sheep who support literally anything and everything coming from this disastrous WH and willing to attack anyone who dares says anything remotely to be the truth who is perceived as a threat to the messiah.
Bachmann is on the rise so you all go into reflexive attack mode on anything she says or does, same when it was Palin on the rise, Trump, Ryan, etc etc.
hahahaaha your cheering bachmann on the rise,she is unelectable, and you wonder why you have to sit on this board 24/7 and cry :D
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hahahaaha your cheering backmann on the rise,she is unelectable, and you wonder why you have to sit on this board 24/7 and cry :D
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With the Obama Depression worsening, Fast & Furious about to result in high level impeachments, etc, anyone the GOP throws up will beat Obama like Reagan did Mondale, Bachmann included.
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Lmfao. Rev wrights 911 cts are ok but bachmann not ok.
Typical.
since he's not running for prez......
and she is...
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With the Obama Depression worsening, Fast & Furious about to result in high level impeachments, etc, anyone the GOP throws up will beat Obama like Reagan did Mondale, Bachmann included.
boy your a dreamer
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boy your a dreamer
So you support Holder committing perjury to cover up Obama's gun running result in the deaths of 150 mexicans and 2 border agents so far?
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boy your a dreamer
So basically your more interested in some non-binding petition that Bachman signed, than high crimes by this administration?
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So basically your more interested in some non-binding petition that Bachman signed, than high crimes by this administration?
YES! ! ! !
I HAVE BEEN SAYING IT ALL ALONG. THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
Obama could come over and rape their dog, sister, and mother in front of them, say "Hope & Change", and people like blacken, straw, vince, benny, andre, 240, etc would pull down their pants and beg for the privilege of also getting raped by this communist puke.
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Its disgusting, they give their loyalty and self respect to a communist pofs who has done nothing whatsoever to deserve it other than wash away their white guilt for a vote and lie to the public in order to create an image as being sometihng he never was, is, or ever will be.
Left wing blacks like Vince, Benny, Andre, who think Obama is one of them are a fucking joke. I have more in common with them being from the Boogie Down than Obama ever will, yet they act like Obama shares their experiences and vantage point. pathetic and sad.
Between, prep school in Hawaii, Harvard, Occidental, Columbia, etc, Obama has lived mostly a privileged life these jerkoffs cant ever hope to yet they act like he was walking the streets of Brooklyn his whole life.
As for Bachmann's pledge, its stupid and she should not have signed it from a political point of view given the media bs. But she was and is right about the issue, too bad socialist blacks, and their guilt ridden white yuppie pieces of liberal trash, are not looking for the truth, they want daddy govt to replace a real father.
Funny, when real black heros come along who actually busted their ass, they get no respect at all.
I served my country dipshit so I'll exercise my right to say what I wish and no she was incorrect in suggesting that. Most families born in slavery were broken up more often than any. Once a child is 12 years old, they were usually sold off to other slavemasters. My grandmother passed down her stories to me so know better.
Yes, history can be distorted. Hardly anyone knows that Stonewall Jackson taught blacks how to read in violation of the laws of the South and Robert E Lee had set up an illegal school for blacks on a plantation and Ulysses S Grant used to hurl his empty whiskey bottles at blacks on plantations while riding by however this isn't the case. She signed a pledge that not only cannot be substantiated but in fact should not be suggested or associated with. She isn't from the South and doesn't know shit about Southerners or Southern culture or Southern pride or Southern heritage.
Not only that, she under the assumption that if a child has 2 parents then everything is going to be much better than having a single parent. The nuclear family of a mom, dad, and 2.5 kids doesn't equate to a happy and properous or even loving family.
She should have never signed that document period and its going to cost her the primary. Gaffes are one things but complete ignorance to modern day life and
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So you support Holder committing perjury to cover up Obama's gun running result in the deaths of 150 mexicans and 2 border agents so far?
i'm saying your a dreamer,some lower guy on the ladder is going to take the fall,always happens
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I served my country dipshit so I'll exercise my right to say what I wish and no she was incorrect in suggesting that. Most families born in slavery were broken up more often than any. Once a child is 12 years old, they were usually sold off to other slavemasters. My grandmother passed down her stories to me so know better.
Yes, history can be distorted. Hardly anyone knows that Stonewall Jackson taught blacks how to read in violation of the laws of the South and Robert E Lee had set up an illegal school for blacks on a plantation and Ulysses S Grant used to hurl his empty whiskey bottles at blacks on plantations while riding by however this isn't the case. She signed a pledge that not only cannot be substantiated but in fact should not be suggested or associated with. She isn't from the South and doesn't know shit about Southerners.
Not only that, she under the assumption that if a child has 2 parents then everything is going to be much better than having a single parent. The nuclear family of a mom, dad, and 2.5 kids doesn't equate to a happy and properous or even loving family.
She should have never signed that document period and its going to cost her the primary. Gaffes are one things but complete ignorance to modern day life and
VERY GOOD post. VERY GOOD my friend.
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I served my country dipshit so I'll exercise my right to say what I wish and no she was incorrect in suggesting that. Most families born in slavery were broken up more often than any. Once a child is 12 years old, they were usually sold off to other slavemasters. My grandmother passed down her stories to me so know better.
Yes, history can be distorted. Hardly anyone knows that Stonewall Jackson taught blacks how to read in violation of the laws of the South and Robert E Lee had set up an illegal school for blacks on a plantation and Ulysses S Grant used to hurl his empty whiskey bottles at blacks on plantations while riding by however this isn't the case. She signed a pledge that not only cannot be substantiated but in fact should not be suggested or associated with. She isn't from the South and doesn't know shit about Southerners.
Not only that, she under the assumption that if a child has 2 parents then everything is going to be much better than having a single parent. The nuclear family of a mom, dad, and 2.5 kids doesn't equate to a happy and properous or even loving family.
She should have never signed that document period and its going to cost her the primary. Gaffes are one things but complete ignorance to modern day life and
this and this
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Whatthefuck ever.
Stay in the dark. Socialist blacks - "HEAR NO EVIL, SEE NO EVIL" You fools see no connection to out of wedlock births and the disastrous crime rates far out of porportion to anyone else, drop out rates, etc. and then you idiots have the balls to blame everyone else and beg daddy govt to step in.
Two parent household is proven to be far more likely to result in a better upbringing than single parenthood.
White liberal guilt ridden socialists like TA can afford their whacked out beliefs because they are mostly trust fund babies, blacks dont have the same luxury to engage in such foolishness.
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Whatthefuck ever.
Cool debate technique there. I'd love to see some of your lines used in a high school debate on the issues :)
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Whatthefuck ever.
Stay in the dark. Socialist blacks - "HEAR NO EVIL, SEE NO EVIL" You fools see no connection to out of wedlock births and the disastrous crime rates far out of porportion to anyone else, drop out rates, etc. and then you idiots have the balls to blame everyone else and beg daddy govt to step in.
Red herring the argument. Oh and the 3rd sentence, if true, is correlation, not causation.
Two parent household is proven to be far more likely to result in a better upbringing than single parenthood.
Two things. First is: Link? Second is: Even if true, the statement cannot be applied to 1800s because of the lack of data in that time.
White liberal guilt ridden socialists like TA can afford their whacked out beliefs because they are mostly trust fund babies, blacks dont have the same luxury to engage in such foolishness.
Red herring the argument.
You must be an awful lawyer.
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Yeah, ok. ::) ::)
Go into Chicago, Detroit, Harlem, South Bronx, Compton, etc and go look around at the success of single parent households.
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Yeah, ok. ::) ::)
Go into Chicago, Detroit, Harlem, South Bronx, Compton, etc and go look around at the success of single parent households.
not evidence. Again note the difference between correlation and causation.
You must be an awful lawyer.
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not evidence. Again note the difference between correlation and causation.
You must be an awful lawyer.
I forgot, must be whitey who did it.
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I forgot, must be whitey who did it.
this doesn't even make sense
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Whatthefuck ever.
Stay in the dark. Socialist blacks - "HEAR NO EVIL, SEE NO EVIL" You fools see no connection to out of wedlock births and the disastrous crime rates far out of porportion to anyone else, drop out rates, etc. and then you idiots have the balls to blame everyone else and beg daddy govt to step in.
Two parent household is proven to be far more likely to result in a better upbringing than single parenthood.
White liberal guilt ridden socialists like TA can afford their whacked out beliefs because they are mostly trust fund babies, blacks dont have the same luxury to engage in such foolishness.
You are just jealous that you can`t even hold a conversation with an African American without wetting your pants and running. You Northerners are such cowards.
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You are just jealous that you can`t even hold a conversation with an African American without wetting your pants and running. You Northerners are such cowards.
LMFAO. I would get tossed off the board if I told vince how I felt about socialist blacks like himself.
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mcgoo is delivering some quality debate throwdown on 33
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mcgoo is delivering some quality debate throwdown on 33
What is his argument?
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What is his argument?
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he busted you for multiple red herrings, and you responded with Yeah, ok. ::) ::)
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he busted you for multiple red herrings, and you responded with
http://www.census.gov/prod/3/97pubs/cb-9701.pdf
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VERY GOOD post. VERY GOOD my friend.
Yes, its the sad truth that history favors the victors. No one ever mentions the first black union army who were not given rifles but actually armed with some fucking spears of all things and made to engage a Confederate Army. Even when they actually established the 54th Volunteer union army with rifles and uniforms, they were forced to pillage and plunder towns like Darien, Georgia of their valuables for the Union Generals so they can sell them off for profit and then to top it all off, made them launch a front frontal assault at Fort Wagner in broad daylight as cannon fodder. Lets not forget that they were paid 7 dollars a month compared to the standard pay of 13 dollars and also charged them for clothing and meals.
Abraham Lincoln got a better deal on black people than the South ever did on the slaves. 200,000 black soldiers for 75% off the retail price.
That's why I said I'd head west if I was born in that era. I'd take my chances with Native Americans and the wilderness. North or South, a black man would have had no rights whatsoever and was getting exploited anywhere he went.
America's history is full of oxymorons and purposely left out ommissions. The fact that Jesse Owens could stay in hotels and eat freely in restaurants in Nazi Germany, gets a handshake from Hitler and a commerative plaque then goes back home, gets no telegrams or thanks from Franklin Roosevelt and rides the freight elevator to his own reception party and is only allows to stay for 10 minutes to give a speech and told to beat it. Lets not forget that right after he won all those medals, he got the Joe Louis treatment of being prosecuted for tax evasion for not paying the taxes on the prize money and purses that he gave to the United States Government to support the war effort. He spent most of his time afterwards running a dry cleaning business and working as a gas station attendant. Fight against Nazi's and pump gas and ring up candy bars and cigarettes for the rest of your life. The stress from all of that made him take up chain smoking which is why he died of lung cancer
Its sad that schools teach a socially bias and false history of the United States. That's why I took it upon myself as a kid to go to the library and actually read about things and not believe everything you hear and I'm a lot smarter person for doing so. You cannot simply take what you hear as truth, you have to sometimes dig deep to get the real truth.
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And? Blacks got treated like shit. Is this supposed to be news to anyone?
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Whatthefuck ever.
Stay in the dark. Socialist blacks - "HEAR NO EVIL, SEE NO EVIL" You fools see no connection to out of wedlock births and the disastrous crime rates far out of porportion to anyone else, drop out rates, etc. and then you idiots have the balls to blame everyone else and beg daddy govt to step in.
Two parent household is proven to be far more likely to result in a better upbringing than single parenthood.
White liberal guilt ridden socialists like TA can afford their whacked out beliefs because they are mostly trust fund babies, blacks dont have the same luxury to engage in such foolishness.
That's common sense. A home with a mother and father is more likely (FAR MORE LIKELY) to have stability. That's common sense and historical fact. Black families have been crippled by out-of-wedlock births and single parenting. That's why too many of our people are dependent on government (and why they keep groveling to the Democrats).
Bachmann's statement was point. When a black child is more likely to have a dad in the home during SLAVERY, than he/she is in the 21st CENTURY, that is SCREWED UP, period!!
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That's common sense. A home with a mother and father is more likely (FAR MORE LIKELY) to have stability. That's common sense and historical fact. Black families have been crippled by out-of-wedlock births and single parenting. That's why too many of our people are dependent on government (and why they keep groveling to the Democrats).
Bachmann's statement was point. When a black child is more likely to have a dad in the home during SLAVERY, than he/she is in the 21st CENTURY, that is SCREWED UP, period!!
A family born in slavery is never stable even if he had a mom and dad around. That's the whole point I'm making.
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That's common sense. A home with a mother and father is more likely (FAR MORE LIKELY) to have stability. That's common sense and historical fact. Black families have been crippled by out-of-wedlock births and single parenting. That's why too many of our people are dependent on government (and why they keep groveling to the Democrats).
Bachmann's statement was point. When a black child is more likely to have a dad in the home during SLAVERY, than he/she is in the 21st CENTURY, that is SCREWED UP, period!!
"common sense" is not evidence. Relying on intuition instead of fact can be faulty and dangerous. The second sentence is what I'm reading from 3333's post (and will respond directly to when finished but I can already tell you it won't have any affect on whether the slavery comparison holds up). The 3rd sentence uses the faulty "common sense" and you misused "historical fact". It cannot be shown to be historical fact due to lack of data. The implication of a study is applicable only to the time the study was done, not across all of time. The 4th sentence is faulty because you apply causation, just because the two are correlated does not mean out of wedlock births and single parents CAUSE higher crime rates, etc. The 5th sentence also falsely applies causation to saying out of wedlock births CAUSE people to become dependent on government, this cannot be proved true and there are likely more/other causes (needless to say you would have to prove out of wedlock births and single parents is the only cause of people being dependent on government for this statement to be true, and I doubt you can do that).
The last sentence is false because there is no proof for it, so we should not accept it as true.
What was your major in college?
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http://www.census.gov/prod/3/97pubs/cb-9701.pdf
this only indicates correlation, NOT causation
your point fails
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this only indicates correlation, NOT causation
your point fails
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Must be the water causing it!
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::) ::)
Must be the water causing it!
you must be an awful lawyer :-\
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you must be an awful lawyer :-\
You are so wrapped up in semantics and bs you really have no ability whatsoever to see reality of the situation.
The stats are clear all around yet you put your head in the sand.
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You are so wrapped up in semantics and bs you really have no ability whatsoever to see reality of the situation.
The stats are clear all around yet you put your head in the sand.
I'm not wrapped up in "semantics". I choose to use logic, note the difference.
The stats are clear, but your interpretation of the stats are not.
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I'm not wrapped up in "semantics". I choose to use logic, note the difference.
The stats are clear, but your interpretation of the stats are not.
Right - its only a coincidence. Got it.
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You are just jealous that you can`t even hold a conversation with an African American without wetting your pants and running. You Northerners are such cowards.
African American, what a fucking stupid term, used by PC retards to put another country before ones own. Northerners are cowards? You know what the biggest obstacle to American blacks is? The US government, they treat black people like children who can't accomplish anything on their own. Affirmative action, Welfare...... all this shit has crippled the back community into believing that they are not as good as any other American, so special rules have to be created. No wonder so many black people have a chip on their shoulder. The government has effectively replaced the role of the male in the black family, fucking sad that it isn't crystal clear to them. Keep voting Dem, keep those chains of government dependence tightly secured.
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What does Rev Wright have to do with this. We're talking about a person running for office who is either oblivious, idiotic, or simply out of touch signing the preamble of a pledge that is insensitive to the values of America and expects to be elected to the highest office...... ::)
Are you a complete fucking idiot, or just your garden variety moron who thinks political correctness is a viable alternative to facts and reality?
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Right - its only a coincidence. Got it.
it is correlation, not causation.
Do you really not know how to interpret studies? ???
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it is correlation, not causation.
Do you really not know how to interpret studies? ???
I interpret reality and common experiences like most people do, you should try it once and awhile.
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I interpret reality and common experiences like most people do, you should try it once and awhile.
I said studies (scientific studies), not your daily life. I could send you some reading material if you want to correctly understand and interpret studies, send me a PM.
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I said studies (scientific studies), not your daily life. I could send you some reading material if you want to correctly understand and interpret studies, send me a PM.
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No, I rather interpret the thugs and pieces of trash mobbing, robbing, looting, thugging, in my nabe who were brought up like wolves with no fathers, no structure, and taught "it aint right if its white" and a whole host of other bullshit by socialist pieces of trash and commies that has resulted in a completely disfunctional and chaotic situation.
Blame slavery, blame whitey, blame the media, blame the water, blame whatever you want, most thinking people see the reality that single parenthood in the black community has been a disaster.
Almost anyone who walks outside their house and looks around can see this, which sadly does not include you.
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No, I rather interpret the thugs and pieces of trash mobbing, robbing, looting, thugging, in my nabe who were brought up like wolves with no fathers, no structure, and taught "it aint right if its white" and a whole host of other bullshit by socialist pieces of trash and commies that has resulted in a completely disfunctional and chaotic situation.
Red herring the argument
Blame slavery, blame whitey, blame the media, blame the water, blame whatever you want,
Red herring the argument, plus I never did any of that haha.
most thinking people see the reality that single parenthood in the black community has been a disaster.
Almost anyone who walks outside their house and looks around can see this, which sadly does not include you.
This is not evidence. If you want to say "I think..." "I believe..." "it seems to me..." then go ahead and fill in whatever you want. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
This has been fun.
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Yes, its the sad truth that history favors the victors. No one ever mentions the first black union army who were not given rifles but actually armed with some fucking spears of all things and made to engage a Confederate Army. Even when they actually established the 54th Volunteer union army with rifles and uniforms, they were forced to pillage and plunder towns like Darien, Georgia of their valuables for the Union Generals so they can sell them off for profit and then to top it all off, made them launch a front frontal assault at Fort Wagner in broad daylight as cannon fodder. Lets not forget that they were paid 7 dollars a month compared to the standard pay of 13 dollars and also charged them for clothing and meals.
Abraham Lincoln got a better deal on black people than the South ever did on the slaves. 200,000 black soldiers for 75% off the retail price.
That's why I said I'd head west if I was born in that era. I'd take my chances with Native Americans and the wilderness. North or South, a black man would have had no rights whatsoever and was getting exploited anywhere he went.
America's history is full of oxymorons and purposely left out ommissions. The fact that Jesse Owens could stay in hotels and eat freely in restaurants in Nazi Germany, gets a handshake from Hitler and a commerative plaque then goes back home, gets no telegrams or thanks from Franklin Roosevelt and rides the freight elevator to his own reception party and is only allows to stay for 10 minutes to give a speech and told to beat it. Lets not forget that right after he won all those medals, he got the Joe Louis treatment of being prosecuted for tax evasion for not paying the taxes on the prize money and purses that he gave to the United States Government to support the war effort. He spent most of his time afterwards running a dry cleaning business and working as a gas station attendant. Fight against Nazi's and pump gas and ring up candy bars and cigarettes for the rest of your life. The stress from all of that made him take up chain smoking which is why he died of lung cancer
Its sad that schools teach a socially bias and false history of the United States. That's why I took it upon myself as a kid to go to the library and actually read about things and not believe everything you hear and I'm a lot smarter person for doing so. You cannot simply take what you hear as truth, you have to sometimes dig deep to get the real truth.
Vince, I am very pleased at your grasp on American History! I think you ,may perhaps, should find yourself a teaching spot of some sort. I cannot tell you how grateful I am that you make posts such as these as I enjoy reading them and I hope it helps others to be educated a bit. American History, when its not watered down and the truth is told I think is the most fascinating in all of the world.
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Oh great - more indoctrinated leftists to go out into society without a clue on basic economics and how to function in a capitalistic society.
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Oh great - more indoctrinated leftists to go out into society without a clue on basic economics and how to function in a capitalistic society.
Where are your bona fides that proves you know how to survive a capitalistic society?
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Where are your bona fides that proves you know how to survive a capitalistic society?
Been in business since 2002, never taken a loan, started with 700 dollars, and now own my building, have great savings, little or no debt, growing client list, etc.
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I interpret reality and common experiences like most people do, you should try it once and awhile.
Exactly!!!
Much like sports nutrition, the "scientific" studies are often years (if not DECADES) behind real-world, trial-and-error experience.
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Two parent household is proven to be far more likely to result in a better upbringing than single parenthood.
very true; thank you.
and in NY state there will be a lot of two parent households, thanks to the recent lege action.
see, you are coming around...
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very true; thank you.
and in NY state there will be a lot of two parent households, thanks to the recent lege action.
see, you are coming around...
Don't be on it. Single-parents homes are rampant in the Netherlands, where gay "marriage" has been legal for over a decade. Marriage rates are an abysmal low, overall; Out-of-wedlock births are at record highs. And gay "marriages" are almost a blip.
"After ten years of same‐sex marriage, approximately 9 out of 10 gay and lesbian people in the Netherlands have still not chosen to enter a legal marriage. Marriage as a social institution continues to decline, with lower rates of marriage, higher rates of divorce and out of wedlock childbearing among opposite sex couples"
http://www.marriagedebate.com/pdf/iMAPP.May2011-rev.pdf (http://www.marriagedebate.com/pdf/iMAPP.May2011-rev.pdf)
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Vince, I am very pleased at your grasp on American History! I think you ,may perhaps, should find yourself a teaching spot of some sort. I cannot tell you how grateful I am that you make posts such as these as I enjoy reading them and I hope it helps others to be educated a bit. American History, when its not watered down and the truth is told I think is the most fascinating in all of the world.
Maybe one day. But do understand that I'm stating this in consequence to folks who act as though they know Southern history. My family didn't fair too well in slavery and around 1820-1830, half of my family tree was sold off to a plantation in Virginia. My grandmother told me that her grandmother and grandfather were subject to pretty severe beatings if they didn't meet the daily quota of cotton picked that day and were fed mostly scraps of the pig although they did allow them to raise some chickens for the occasional eggs, fished in the ponds and maintained a garden. I'm fortunate to be able to pick up their green thumb.
The only good (or decent) thing that happened was after the Civil War was that my family worked out some sort deal and actually continued to work the land and pick cotton in the summer and other odd jobs in return for a nice wage, a house and some land. The guy my grandfather worked for was in the KKK and he gave him a ride home every day but right after work, he would have to get in the back of the truck and put a blanket over his body or wood and lay still while he went to the Klan meetings because if they ever found him in that truck, he would have likely been lynched as the KKK was pretty bad down in Eastern NC for a time.
All of the seasoning picked went up until at least 1965 when Mr. Taylor (the guy my family worked for or desendant or whatever) bought cotton baling machines or something...not exactly sure. But afterwards, there was still pay for crushing cotton down in the bins. My cousin was getting about 40 bucks a day to jump up and down on a wooden board which pushed down the cotton for a couple hours. In 1989, that was actually pretty good tax free money for little work. Soon after my grandfather passed away in 1991, my grandmother was sent to a nursing home and that pretty much ended that as everyone left moved on and away. They are actually buried on a church that was right next to the fields.
To be honest, there was a lot of struggles for my family but they kicked in and took care of things and didn't complain about the circumstances.
But getting back to Bachmann, my anger is that she signed something without having any idea or clue as to what slavery for blacks was all about for political gain. The Civil War was bad for both sides, there were a number of atrocities and dishonorable acts committed in the name of slavery and I don't think she should comment or make a statement about it unless she comes down here and actually talk to the folks who were born and raised here
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. Marriage rates are an abysmal low,
then preach to the str8s to get married.
they started the whole thing ;)