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July 14, 2011
"Republican Candidate" Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%
Margin marks first statistically significant lead among registered voters
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- Registered voters by a significant margin now say they are more likely to vote for the "Republican Party's candidate for president" than for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, 47% to 39%. Preferences had been fairly evenly divided this year in this test of Obama's re-election prospects.
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see, "republican candidate" isn't a mormon, isn't a RINO, isn't a moron from alaska, isn't running an anti-gay clinic, isn't citing lady gaga lyrics randomly, and doesn't do a whole lot to alienate anyone. So it's easy to be the perfect anti-obama when you're 0% polarizing.
It's like saying "Generic food beats broccoli by 8 points!" I mean, once people realize the "generic food" is Alpo, people might decide to stick with broccoli.
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see, "republican candidate" isn't a mormon, isn't a RINO, isn't a moron from alaska, isn't running an anti-gay clinic, isn't citing lady gaga lyrics randomly, and doesn't do a whole lot to alienate anyone. So it's easy to be the perfect anti-obama when you're 0% polarizing.
It's like saying "Generic food beats broccoli by 8 points!" I mean, once people realize the "generic food" is Alpo, people might decide to stick with broccoli.
Add to that, the Iowa polls that cite the "Mormon", beating Obama by three points. The lady "running an anti-gay clinic" trails Obama by a single in the Iowa polls.
And, as Dick Morris pointed out last night on O'Reilly, look at the undecided voters. Traditionally, when there is a race with an incumbent, about 80% of the undecided voters go to the challenger. Therefore, if the lady "running an anti-gay clinic" is behind 46-47 to Obama, that leaves 7% of voters undecided, 5.6 percent goes to her, which would put Bachmann up roughly 53-47.
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BACHMANN will obliterate obama. She is fearless against this commie traitor and cult leader for the obots.
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Add to that, the Iowa polls that cite the "Mormon", beating Obama by three points. The lady "running an anti-gay clinic" trails Obama by a single in the Iowa polls.
Thank you for making my point.
Voters already know ALL of obama's negatives, and he's within a few points of everyone.
DNC/Obama has a year, and one billion dollars, to let america know all of the negatives of the republican candidate. If he's ahead of bachmann by 1 point now - despite all the shit he's shoveled down america's throat - there's the possibility he will go up more when she makes her gaffes and people learn about her positions on things.
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BACHMANN will obliterate obama. She is fearless against this commie traitor and cult leader for the obots.
I hope so. However, as much as I like her consistency, I am starting to think a Huntsman would be more stable against Obama. bachmann is remarkably consistent in her views, but is she electable? Will middle of road americans look at the anti-gay clinic and be happy with that?
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I hope so. However, as much as I like her consistency, I am starting to think a Huntsman would be more stable against Obama. bachmann is remarkably consistent in her views, but is she electable? Will middle of road americans look at the anti-gay clinic and be happy with that?
Huntsman is a joke. He is patheticlly weak. He embarasses me.
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Huntsman is a joke. He is patheticlly weak. He embarasses me.
Yes, but if you want obama defeated - he would probably fare better against him, than bachmann. I like bachmann's positions and passion better. But she lies about something as easily proveable as the anti-gay thing... doesn't bode well for her characters. She'd get my vote in a minutes.. but if I had to pick WHICH repub would do best against obama, it would be huntsman, the guy I've said is the biggest threat for about 3 years now.
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Yes, but if you want obama defeated - he would probably fare better against him, than bachmann. I like bachmann's positions and passion better. But she lies about something as easily proveable as the anti-gay thing... doesn't bode well for her characters. She'd get my vote in a minutes.. but if I had to pick WHICH repub would do best against obama, it would be huntsman, the guy I've said is the biggest threat for about 3 years now.
America wants a fighter to take on your commie hero, not a panzie who sits there and keeps calling him a remarkable leader.
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Not surprised. The Obama camp has to be very concerned.
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America wants a fighter to take on your commie hero, not a panzie who sits there and keeps calling him a remarkable leader.
I dunno about that. America wants DIGNITY in its leader.
I dont know that bachmann has showed that of late. mccain had dignity in the 2008 primaries while mitt and rudy acted like fools, screaming "lib!" at each other and losing their cool. ONLY when mccain lost his cool in the fall 08 did people abandon him.
I believe huntsmann will keep his cool. If I had to bet, I'd say there's a much better chance he will keep his cool than bachmann. And I think you agree.
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I dunno about that. America wants DIGNITY in its leader.
I dont know that bachmann has showed that of late. mccain had dignity in the 2008 primaries while mitt and rudy acted like fools, screaming "lib!" at each other and losing their cool. ONLY when mccain lost his cool in the fall 08 did people abandon him.
I believe huntsmann will keep his cool. If I had to bet, I'd say there's a much better chance he will keep his cool than bachmann. And I think you agree.
Oh lord. Did you forget the economy meltdown? LMAO
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Oh lord. Did you forget the economy meltdown? LMAO
did you forget about mccain melting down, suspending his campaign, and trying to reschedul his 3rd debate INSTEAD of the veep debate?
dude was tortured. Pissed. Annoyed. Not cool at all. Remember the debates? he was clearly irritated.
I think huntsmann is a cool character and won't flip out like mccain did when shit got tough.
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did you forget about mccain melting down, suspending his campaign, and trying to reschedul his 3rd debate INSTEAD of the veep debate?
dude was tortured. Pissed. Annoyed. Not cool at all. Remember the debates? he was clearly irritated.
I think huntsmann is a cool character and won't flip out like mccain did when shit got tough.
Tell me what huntsman believes in?
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and please - saying one GOP candidate may fare better against obama isn't kneepadding. So please don't go there.
I'm just saying if I was a betting man, I'd say in a general election, huntsmann would do better than bachmann. His personality (and wealth) may be stronger. Experience too - dude lived chinese finance, she's never passed a single bill.
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Tell me what huntsman believes in?
Pick any issue - he has a video stating his position on that issue on his website. Not appropriate for me to try to restate it when you can hear it out of his own mouth:
http://jon2012.com/htv/Jul-13-2011/HTV-Video-July-13-2011?autoplay=0
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Pick any issue - he has a video stating his position on that issue on his website. Not appropriate for me to try to restate it when you can hear it out of his own mouth:
http://jon2012.com/htv/Jul-13-2011/HTV-Video-July-13-2011?autoplay=0
When does he plan on breaking out ?
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Thank you for making my point.
Voters already know ALL of obama's negatives, and he's within a few points of everyone.
DNC/Obama has a year, and one billion dollars, to let america know all of the negatives of the republican candidate. If he's ahead of bachmann by 1 point now - despite all the shit he's shoveled down america's throat - there's the possibility he will go up more when she makes her gaffes and people learn about her positions on things.
He's not going anywhere, if this economy keep tanking (unless he resurrects Bin Laden and kills him again).
Bachmann's been campaigning for about a month and she's right in the thick of it, within a point of Obama in Iowa ("anti-gay clinic" and all)?
And money doens't necessarily equate to success. If you don't believe me, ask the gay "marriage" bubbas, who outspend their opponents when it comes to their campaigns about state marriage amendments.
In my home state, gays and their sympathizers outspent the Amendment 2 supports, nearly 3 to 1. Amendment 2 passed 62-38 (and we have a 60% supermajority requirement).
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Oh lord. Did you forget the economy meltdown? LMAO
Or the fact that, prior to the economic meltdown, McCain (with a HUGE assist from a certain FINE-LOOKING Alaskan governor) lead Obama in the national and state-by-state polls.
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July 14, 2011
"Republican Candidate" Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%
Margin marks first statistically significant lead among registered voters
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- Registered voters by a significant margin now say they are more likely to vote for the "Republican Party's candidate for president" than for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, 47% to 39%. Preferences had been fairly evenly divided this year in this test of Obama's re-election prospects.
Generic Candidate........ ::)
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Gop could run charlie sheen and they would beat obama at this point.
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Gop could run charlie sheen and they would beat obama at this point.
palin polling what, 20 points below? Yet you truly believe she'd beat obama?
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palin polling what, 20 points below? Yet you truly believe she'd beat obama?
Absolutely. Bachmann has only been in this a month and despite 240 Benny blacken magoo lynch mob she is already neck and neck.
If palin was on her own unencumbered by mclame and the other bs, she would get right in there and beat this commie dirtbag like a rented mule.
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If palin was on her own unencumbered by mclame and the other bs, she would get right in there and beat this commie dirtbag like a rented mule.
Did you know her approval rating (without mclame) has steadily dropped since 2008?
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Did you know her approval rating (without mclame) has steadily dropped since 2008?
Oh wonder why that is. ::)
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Gop could run charlie sheen and they would beat obama at this point.
No one in the current lineup is able to beat Obama.
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Oh wonder why that is. ::)
cue the victim card.
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No one in the current lineup is able to beat Obama.
Ha ha ha ha. I can't wait till you 95ers are in a puddle of tears when this piece of trash is sent back to Kenya.
He is going to lose like Mondale. He has failed in all respects. Everything he has touched has turned to shit.
Bachmann will destroy him, same for Romney, palin, perry, Paul, etc.
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No one in the current lineup is able to beat Obama.
Oh c'mon. He had a perfect storm in 2008, only had to run against Bush--rather than running on his own record--didn't face the strongest candidate in the world, and still didn't runaway with the election. He will have no such luck in 2012.
What record can he run on in 2012? Turning the economy around? Creating jobs? Lowering unemployment? Ending wars? Closing Gitmo? Quitting smoking (again)??
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Oh c'mon. He had a perfect storm in 2008, only had to run against Bush--rather than running on his own record--didn't face the strongest candidate in the world, and still didn't runaway with the election. He will have no such luck in 2012.
What record can he run on in 2012? Turning the economy around? Creating jobs? Lowering unemployment? Ending wars? Closing Gitmo? Quitting smoking (again)??
All of the candidates running now are either flawed or not in contention. Obama has raised more money than all of them combined, Gallup polls have him beating every one by at least 8 percent, and quite frankly they have not done anything to win new voters over. In fact, I would have to say that they've gone so far right that they are alienating moderate Republicans. Unless someone in the party can come up with a clear message and actually give solution rather than name calling, its already over before it started
As far as record is concerned, that's what wikipedia is for.
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So again, you have not one reason for Obama to deserve a second term. He is done.
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July 14, 2011
"Republican Candidate" Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%
Margin marks first statistically significant lead among registered voters
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- Registered voters by a significant margin now say they are more likely to vote for the "Republican Party's candidate for president" than for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, 47% to 39%. Preferences had been fairly evenly divided this year in this test of Obama's re-election prospects.
so, "Other" is the first place among all the declared GOP candidates.
Perhaps they should run with the Flag. Everyone loves it, it was made in the USA, it's been all around the world; the only thing missing is a sex scandal.
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so, "Other" is the first place among all the declared GOP candidates.
Perhaps they should run with the Flag. Everyone loves it, it was made in the USA, it's been all around the world; the only thing missing is a sex scandal.
I would destroy obama. I have zero doubt I could out debate him on any issue, call him out on his lies, scams, frauds, etc.
I would go after him like Trump was and make that commie dirtbag cry and run back to kenya as fast he could along with his disgusting wife. Those two grifters would be sent packing.
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I would destroy obama. I have zero doubt I could out debate him on any issue, call him out on his lies, scams, frauds, etc.
I would go after him like Trump was and make that commie dirtbag cry and run back to kenya as fast he could along with his disgusting wife. Those two grifters would be sent packing.
Trump not only got humiliated but was ridiculed by the President and Seth and the White House Correspondent's Dinner for his efforts. You would just be ignored like the pigeons in the park
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Very simply question Obama fears most:
"Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"
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So again, you have not one reason for Obama to deserve a second term. He is done.
THIS is the fundamental disagreement on getbig.
33, you somehow equate "deserving" a second term with being in a good position to win a 2nd term.
He will have a billion bucks, he's way ahead of the others, he's polling 46% approval.
I think 333386 somehow equates an honest evaluation of the current 2012 situation as an endorsement/defense of obama's policies.
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BACHMANN will obliterate obama. She is fearless against this commie traitor and cult leader for the obots.
um...no
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THIS is the fundamental disagreement on getbig.
33, you somehow equate "deserving" a second term with being in a good position to win a 2nd term.
He will have a billion bucks, he's way ahead of the others, he's polling 46% approval.
I think 333386 somehow equates an honest evaluation of the current 2012 situation as an endorsement/defense of obama's policies.
DOES NOT MATTER!
He has 750 million in 2008 and still only one by less than 6 points in a year taylor made for him. now he has a jhorrible record he cant run from, his speeches are mocked and laughed at, his immature rants are laughed at, his policies have all failed.
Every single measure of economic success is worse and he has no message at all.
4 more years? and anyone other than far leftists like yourself will say "Of what?"
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The whiny left is doing a lot of crying on this thread. I don't know why. Obama is the worst president in the history of this nation. Getting rid of him would be a positive step.
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I would destroy obama. I have zero doubt I could out debate him on any issue, call him out on his lies, scams, frauds, etc.
I would go after him like Trump was and make that commie dirtbag cry and run back to kenya as fast he could along with his disgusting wife. Those two grifters would be sent packing.
FFFAAAAIIIIILLLL
Seeing how you can't debate simple internet claims on this board without constant deflection, ignorance, bullshit and crying, you couldn't handle a live televised debate without making a bigger fool of yourself. You would do worse than Palin on her worst day.
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um...no
Tell me why? Seriously - she has more of a record than obama before he ran for potus, is better on the issues, people are sick of obama, etc.
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Gop could run charlie sheen and they would beat obama at this point.
keep telling yourself that
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Tell me why? Seriously - she has more of a record than obama before he ran for potus, is better on the issues, people are sick of obama, etc.
She is unstable.. plain and simple..
Im voting for ralph nader
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She is unstable.. plain and simple..
Im voting for ralph nader
Unstable? She raised 5 of her own kids, 23 foster kids, was a lawyer for the govt, congresswoman, helped her husband run the clinic, etc.
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Unstable? She raised 5 of her own kids, 23 foster kids, was a lawyer for the govt, congresswoman, helped her husband run the clinic, etc.
I'll give her credit for her own five kids
As far as we know, none of them are fuck ups like the Palin kids
That puts her in the same category as the vast majority of parents all over the country and the world
she raised her kids
kudos to her
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Unstable? She raised 5 of her own kids, 23 foster kids, was a lawyer for the govt, congresswoman, helped her husband run the clinic, etc.
so, and the shit that comes out of her mouth is ridiculousness. Granted, She isnt as big of a joke as Senoria Palin..
But for real
She said that there arent any studies that show that carbon dioxide is bad..
she said that Melissa Etheridge got the cancer because she was gay..or lesbo.. whatever
lmao.. what about "glen beck could solve the credit card crisis.."..cmon bro.. she is fucked in the head
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so, and the shit that comes out of her mouth is ridiculousness. Granted, She isnt as big of a joke as Senoria Palin..
But for real
She said that there arent any studies that show that carbon dioxide is bad..
she said that Melissa Etheridge got the cancer because she was gay..or lesbo.. whatever
lmao.. what about "glen beck could solve the credit card crisis.."..cmon bro.. she is fucked in the head
Hardly. the Co2 scam has come unglued. The ME comment is stupid no doubt, and glen beck, or even a 1st grader could solve the credid crsis. simple - cut up obamas credit card.
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so, and the shit that comes out of her mouth is ridiculousness. Granted, She isnt as big of a joke as Senoria Palin..
But for real
She said that there arent any studies that show that carbon dioxide is bad..
she said that Melissa Etheridge got the cancer because she was gay..or lesbo.. whatever
lmao.. what about "glen beck could solve the credit card crisis.."..cmon bro.. she is fucked in the head
and 333 is fucked up in the head too so every idiotic thing that Bachmann and Palin say makes perfect sense to him and he is utterly baffled why everyone doesn't see it
it's as simple as that
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Hardly. the Co2 scam has come unglued. The ME comment is stupid no doubt, and glen beck, or even a 1st grader could solve the credid crsis. simple - cut up obamas credit card.
Dude she said that kids shouldnt watch the lion king because some of the music was written by a gay man and the message would be (from gays) "i do things better because im gay"
i mean.. what the fuck
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Dude she said that kids shouldnt watch the lion king because some of the music was written by a gay man and the message would be (from gays) "i do things better because im gay"
i mean.. what the fuck
I'm starting to believe Bachmann might be a closet lesbo
She talks constantly about the dangers of gaynes, how it's "bondage" and "enslavement". It sounds to me like she is talking from personal experience.
Given the fact that she's married to gayest "straight" guy on the planet and they derive part of their household income from curing teh gay I'm really starting to think they are closet cases who fight their own personal demons by projecting their self hatred outward
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I'm starting to believe Bachmann might be a closet lesbo
She talks constantly about the dangers of gaynes, how it's "bondage" and "enslavement". It sounds to me like she is talking from personal experience.
Given the fact that she's married to gayest "straight" guy on the planet and they derive part of their household income from curing teh gay I'm really starting to think they are closet cases who fight their own personal demons by projecting their self hatred outward
she, her husband, and 33386 'doth protest too much' about the gheys. Usually a sign of subconscious wanderings...just sayin'
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Very simply question Obama fears most:
"Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"
rich people can say yes to that question
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and 333 is fucked up in the head too so every idiotic thing that Bachmann and Palin say makes perfect sense to him and he is utterly baffled why everyone doesn't see it
it's as simple as that
So it isn't just me? Other people reach the same conclusion too?
Well by golly then...
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she, her husband, and 33386 'doth protest too much' about the gheys. Usually a sign of subconscious wanderings...just sayin'
You don't say? Ever notice that the last thing before his meltdowns on here is his postings of his queer projections? They always precede his spiral into a delusional rant session.
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Still doesn't change the fact that obama losing by 8 points.
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Obama losing by 8 points still doesn't change the fact that you are a lying, crying, whining middle age fat sociopath shut in with self loathing queer tendencies.
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Obama losing by 8 points still doesn't change the fact that you are a lying, crying, whining middle age fat sociopath shut in with self loathing queer tendencies.
Lmfao. Meltdown.
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Meltdown? That's all you got?
Pathetic. Which is normal for you.
Carry on sissy.
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Meltdown? That's all you got?
Pathetic. Which is normal for you.
Carry on sissy.
Sissy? Oh how "manly" of you.
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Of me, yes.
You. Not so much. Nothing with testicles cries like you do every day on here.
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Of me, yes.
You. Not so much. Nothing with testicles cries like you do every day on here.
15 million out of work due to your messiahs policies are crying for sure.
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None louder or with more "whining-est" in their voices than you.
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Obama sinking like a rock in Gallup.
44 percent. Done.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls
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All of the candidates running now are either flawed or not in contention. Obama has raised more money than all of them combined, Gallup polls have him beating every one by at least 8 percent, and quite frankly they have not done anything to win new voters over. In fact, I would have to say that they've gone so far right that they are alienating moderate Republicans. Unless someone in the party can come up with a clear message and actually give solution rather than name calling, its already over before it started
As far as record is concerned, that's what wikipedia is for.
In other words, you got nothing. No record that Obama can run on. Just wikipedia. Right.
Every candidate is flawed (especially Obama). Yes Obama will raise more money than all of them, but he has no message, a lousy record, and nothing that will bring in the independents and Republicans who put him in office.
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In other words, you got nothing. No record that Obama can run on. Just wikipedia. Right.
Every candidate is flawed (especially Obama). Yes Obama will raise more money than all of them, but he has no message, a lousy record, and nothing that will bring in the independents and Republicans who put him in office.
He'll still win anyway with what's out there.
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Sissy? Oh how "manly" of you.
Now boys....play nice.
Or you'll have to eat your peas.... ;)
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Bookmarked.
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He'll still win anyway with what's out there.
Yes, I get it. You got nothing. Just a bold prediction with no factual support, other than Obama's ability to raise a lot of money.
Anytime you want to spell out what record Obama will run on, and not point me to the internet, I'm all ears.