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Title: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 10:36:09 PM
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Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: tbombz on July 14, 2011, 10:37:19 PM
are you finally going to have them do training that makes sense for a fighter, or are you going to conitnue with the nonsense bullshit tire flipping and what not
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 10:40:08 PM
are you finally going to have them do training that makes sense for a fighter, or are you going to conitnue with the nonsense bullshit tire flipping and what not

You've trained so many fighters..what kind of training would you suggest?
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: WillGrant on July 14, 2011, 10:43:15 PM
TWISTER!!1 :D
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 14, 2011, 10:48:31 PM
Hey Coach, can you train Kongo so he loses?

So we all can put big money on Meathead Mitrione?

Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 10:51:01 PM
Hey Coach, can you train Kongo so he loses?

So we all can put big money on Meathead Mitrione?



Gotta to admit this caught me off guard, I like Mitrione, super nice guy and a powerful fighter..........but then again so is Kongo.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 10:51:47 PM
You've trained so many fighters..what kind of training would you suggest?

Bump for Tbombz answer.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: tbombz on July 14, 2011, 10:52:13 PM
You've trained so many fighters..what kind of training would you suggest?
flipping tires and making waves with big rope are vital skills in man-to-man combat















practice should always simulate performance


Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 10:52:29 PM
TWISTER!!1 :D

Excuse me?
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 10:53:54 PM
flipping tires and making waves with big rope are vital skills in man-to-man combat















practice should always simulate performance




You didn't answer my question. Golf day tomorrow, late tee time. I've got time.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 14, 2011, 10:54:04 PM
are you finally going to have them do training that makes sense for a fighter, or are you going to conitnue with the nonsense bullshit tire flipping and what not

Wonder why UFC is hiring him and not you? ???
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 14, 2011, 10:54:20 PM
Gotta to admit this caught me off guard, I like Mitrione, super nice guy and a powerful fighter..........but then again so is Kongo.

If you can make Kongo lose guaranteed, you will get your share ;)

Just messing Coach!

Train Kongo as best as you can!

Will be a good fight for sure
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: WillGrant on July 14, 2011, 10:55:52 PM
Excuse me?
List the drugs you have these guys run please - real amounts  ;)
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 10:59:22 PM
Wonder why UFC is hiring him and not you? ???

Unfortunately the UFC doesn't hire trainers unless you're a "UFC certified personal trainer" LOL.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: tbombz on July 14, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
You didn't answer my question. Golf day tomorrow, late tee time. I've got time.
i was just fucking with you but ...


 use bands to add resistance to punches/kicks. a mix of real strong band work to increase max power, and some lighter band work to maximize speed.  + some heavy bag work.


some sprints


+beat the shit out of them on a daily basis. repeatedly smash in the face, sides, legs, etc.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:07:16 PM
List the drugs you have these guys run please - real amounts  ;)

I don't and won't. Each fighter, athlete and general population have to fill out a health history. With athletes and fighters I have them sign an agreement that if caught with PED's it's of their own discretion and I'm not involved. I give the legal reasons then I give the physiological reasons on why I DON'T WANT THEM TAKING GEAR. Physiologically if they are have to make a weight, it may make harder plus it would KILL their conditioning in any weight class.  
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: WillGrant on July 14, 2011, 11:08:31 PM
I don't and won't. Each fighter, athlete and general population have to fill out a health history. With athletes and fighters I have them sign an agreement that if caught with PED's it's of their own discretion and I'm not involved. I give the legal reasons then I give the physiological reasons on why I DON'T WANT THEM TAKING GEAR. Physiologically if they are have to make a weight, it may make harder plus it would KILL their conditioning in any weight class.  
So you are saying they use nothing to enhance agression or explosive power ?
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:09:15 PM
i was just fucking with you but ...


 use bands to add resistance to punches/kicks. a mix of real strong band work to increase max power, and some lighter band work to maximize speed.  + some heavy bag work.


some sprints


+beat the shit out of them on a daily basis. repeatedly smash in the face, sides, legs, etc.

If a fighter is 8-10-12 weeks out you cannot do that.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:09:56 PM
So you are saying they use nothing to enhance agression or explosive power ?
i asked coach once and this was his response



me-
what kind of p.e.ds do you recommended to some one who is going for physical performance(sports,football,baseball,boxing, mma) overpure size and beach muscle( body building )



twister-
I wouldn't and don't advise my clients to use them as well. Too many injuries that come along with PED use and hinders conditioning. Beside's any of my clients tested positive the first person they would look to is me...isn't worth it!
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:11:48 PM
So you are saying they use nothing to enhance agression or explosive power ?

Dana White is coming down HARD on fighters who get caught using gear. I can make an athlete just as explosive without it. It's a matter of knowing how to train.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:12:20 PM
what does the panel think , is this guy on hormones ?
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:13:02 PM
i asked coach once and this was his response



me-
what kind of p.e.ds do you recommended to some one who is going for physical performance(sports,football,baseball,boxing, mma) overpure size and beach muscle( body building )



twister-
I wouldn't and don't advise my clients to use them as well. Too many injuries that come along with PED use and hinders conditioning. Beside's any of my clients tested positive the first person they would look to is me...isn't worth it!

Good to know I'm consistent.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:13:35 PM
Dana White is coming down HARD on fighters who get caught using gear. I can make an athlete just as explosive without it. It's a matter of knowing how to train.
dana white doesnt give two shits if his fighters use peds , he only cares if they get caught and ruin his payperview buys
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:14:53 PM
dana white doesnt give two shits if his fighters use peds , he only cares if they get caught and ruin his payperview buys

And this falls on me how?
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:15:23 PM
I don't and won't. Each fighter, athlete and general population have to fill out a health history. With athletes and fighters I have them sign an agreement that if caught with PED's it's of their own discretion and I'm not involved. I give the legal reasons then I give the physiological reasons on why I DON'T WANT THEM TAKING GEAR. Physiologically if they are have to make a weight, it may make harder plus it would KILL their conditioning in any weight class.  
yes im sure if you gave your clients EPO it would ravage there conditioning  ::)
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: tbombz on July 14, 2011, 11:15:30 PM
If a fighter is 8-10-12 weeks out you cannot do that.
if they go a couple months without getting their ass beat they are  primed to get knock the fuck out come game time
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:16:01 PM
And this falls on me how?
there ya go , being honest isant so hard now is it ?
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: WillGrant on July 14, 2011, 11:17:32 PM
Dana White is coming down HARD on fighters who get caught using gear. I can make an athlete just as explosive without it. It's a matter of knowing how to train.
Thats not answering the question though bro - its just like when someone says to you what are you on there when they see a pic of you and you say "nothing im clean" but hold the phone batman - everything presented in the pic was built on hormones its just your protocol is to drop everything 2 weeks before a show so you say clean in the pic but not natural when its all built with drugs  ;)

so.....

So you are saying they use nothing to enhance agression or explosive power ?
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:17:57 PM
yes im sure if you gave your clients EPO it would ravage there conditioning  ::)

Stick to being a gimmick, you're better at that.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:19:10 PM
Stick to being a gimmick, you're better at that.
wow i make a good point and you play the " your a gimmick card " when you know exactly who iam , way to go twister  ::)
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:20:13 PM
Thats not answering the question though bro - its just like when someone says to you what are you on there when they see a pic of you and you say "nothing im clean" but hold the phone batman - everything presented in the pic was built on hormones its just your protocol is to drop everything 2 weeks before a show so you say clean in the pic but not natural when its all built with drugs  ;)

so.....


Go back and look at the pics of Kongo before I started with him.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:23:38 PM
wow i make a good point and you play the " your a gimmick card " when you know exactly who iam , way to go twister  ::)

Because I don't answer ignorant questions. Ex; why in the fuck would I give a fighter EPO for a 15min fight? Fuck, I couldn't get them ready for 15--25 mins I might as well give up. Keep asking questions gimmick.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: WillGrant on July 14, 2011, 11:23:57 PM
Go back and look at the pics of Kongo before I started with him.
Drugs are not just about what they look like say like BB's as an example - they are used for performance to - just look at Cycling  - the drugs your guys use are not used like how BBs use them (looks and size) but more for power aggression and endurence - its not about looks here  :D
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:26:14 PM
Because I don't answer ignorant questions. Ex; why in the fuck would I give a fighter EPO for a 15min fight? Fuck, I couldn't get them ready for 15--25 mins I might as well give up. Keep asking questions gimmick.
your so full of shit its not even funny twister , keep up with the diversionary tactics your good at it
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: WillGrant on July 14, 2011, 11:30:53 PM
Cheque Drops pre fight as an example ? Are you saying this is never used - do your fighters ever use it ? yes or no ?
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:31:55 PM
Drugs are not just about what they look like say like BB's as an example - they are used for performance to - just look at Cycling  - the drugs your guys use are not used like how BBs use them (looks and size) but more for power aggression and endurence - its not about looks here  :D

Ok, I get that and understand that. NOW, you have to realize that MMA is just now coming around to seeing what TRUE S&C can do for them, you have to trust me when I say there isn't too many people in this sport who know the difference (not even their coaches) of what drug kills conditioning or not. I have to absolutely TWIST  Rampages and Kongos arms to see the light of S&C. Kongo loves 24hr fitness for the fucking machines.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:33:16 PM
Cheque Drops pre fight as an example ? Are you saying this is never used - do your fighters ever use it ? yes or no ?

Whats that? Seriously.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:34:02 PM
your so full of shit its not even funny twister , keep up with the diversionary tactics your good at it

STFU gimmick before I have you tossed.......again.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Pressin_Weight on July 14, 2011, 11:34:38 PM
epo for a fighter sounds like a recipe for a heart attack. basically turns the blood to sludge.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:36:35 PM
STFU gimmick before I have you tossed.......again.
eat a bag of dicks asshole
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: WillGrant on July 14, 2011, 11:38:10 PM
Ok, I get that and understand that. NOW, you have to realize that MMA is just now coming around to seeing what TRUE S&C can do for them, you have to trust me when I say there isn't too many people in this sport who know the difference (not even their coaches) of what drug kills conditioning or not. I have to absolutely TWIST  Rampages and Kongos arms to see the light of S&C. Kongo loves 24hr fitness for the fucking machines.
Im not doubting your training methods for one bit here but Im also a realist in the fact at this level drugs of some form are used to be competitive - without the training drugs mean shit of course but athletes always look for an edge and drugs give this - these guys give there all in there training for the sole purpose of being the best - drugs are rampant in every sport even the ones we would least expect because at this level you do anything to win - this is always going to be the case - Now I understand this is a publi forum and you being these guys coach you need to be careful what is said - but i highly doubt its just your training thats driving these guys on fight day when the opposition will always be looking for that extra edge - its human nature and here to stay.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:40:50 PM
Because I don't answer ignorant questions. Ex; why in the fuck would I give a fighter EPO for a 15min fight? Fuck, I couldn't get them ready for 15--25 mins I might as well give up. Keep asking questions gimmick.
wow if only alistar overeem had found the coach he would have never had to use peds what a fool this overeem guy is  ::)


Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:42:47 PM
Im not doubting your training methods for one bit here but Im also a realist in the fact at this level drugs of some form are used to be competitive - without the training drugs mean shit of course but athletes always look for an edge and drugs give this - these guys give there all in there training for the sole purpose of being the best - drugs are rampant in every sport even the ones we would least expect because at this level you do anything to win - this is always going to be the case - Now I understand this is a publi forum and you being these guys coach you need to be careful what is said - but i highly doubt its just your training thats driving these guys on fight day when the opposition will always be looking for that extra edge - its human nature and here to stay.
::) oh brother will grant do you realize who your talking to to here , this is joe marino were talking about his training methods are powerful than any steroid , how dare you question him
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:43:53 PM
Im not doubting your training methods for one bit here but Im also a realist in the fact at this level drugs of some form are used to be competitive - without the training drugs mean shit of course but athletes always look for an edge and drugs give this - these guys give there all in there training for the sole purpose of being the best - drugs are rampant in every sport even the ones we would least expect because at this level you do anything to win - this is always going to be the case - Now I understand this is a publi forum and you being these guys coach you need to be careful what is said - but i highly doubt its just your training thats driving these guys on fight day when the opposition will always be looking for that extra edge - its human nature and here to stay.

Yep, you're preaching to the choir here. Honestly, if they do take something, I don't want to know because I don't want my name attached. If my name gets mentioned (or any S&C coach for that matter) with an athlete getting caught with PED's and it gets out, then I run the risk of getting questioned by reps by every athlete I train in that organization (NCAA, MLB, NFL, etc). I don't need that.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: WillGrant on July 14, 2011, 11:44:06 PM
Whats that? Seriously.
Taken pre fight to enhance aggression - rampant in boxing circles - can turn most mental with pure rage  :D

http://www.muscleenhancers.com/steroids/roids29.htm (http://www.muscleenhancers.com/steroids/roids29.htm)
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:45:16 PM
::) oh brother will grant do you realize who your talking to to here , this is joe marino were talking about his training methods are powerful than any steroid , how dare you question him

Keep going gimmick.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:47:00 PM
Taken pre fight to enhance aggression - rampant in boxing circles - can turn most mental with pure rage  :D

http://www.muscleenhancers.com/steroids/roids29.htm (http://www.muscleenhancers.com/steroids/roids29.htm)

Damn, honest to God I've never heard of it.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oderus on July 14, 2011, 11:55:06 PM
Keep going gimmick.
i will , get used to it twister
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2011, 11:59:59 PM
i will , get used to it twister

Well, why not. You've already sent me a pm with your other gimmick. You need to get away from men and hook up with a chick. It might change your prospective on life. But then again............
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 15, 2011, 12:22:20 AM
Joe Marinos trainingmethods are more powerful than any steroid, keep doing what you're doing Coach.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: jedibrat on July 15, 2011, 12:30:57 AM
Good matchup for kongo. Can't think of one area he's at a disadvantage now that he seems to have the old fire back.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 15, 2011, 06:13:30 AM
It's amazing how much money the UFC generates and how little they pay the fighters.  These fighters agree to fight for nothing because it's the only big show in town.  UFC acts like they gave away the farm when they sign a fighter to a 100k contract.  That's not 100k for a singular fight but a contract to be part of the UFC. 

Imagine Pac Man fighting for $200k? He wouldn't fight for under 10 million.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Swede! on July 15, 2011, 06:22:52 AM
WAR MATT!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Swede! on July 15, 2011, 06:23:36 AM
It's amazing how much money the UFC generates and how little they pay the fighters.  These fighters agree to fight for nothing because it's the only big show in town.  UFC acts like they gave away the farm when they sign a fighter to a 100k contract.  That's not 100k for a singular fight but a contract to be part of the UFC. 

Imagine Pac Man fighting for $200k? He wouldn't fight for under 10 million.

how many years have boxing been around?
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Secret Stack on July 15, 2011, 06:45:44 AM
who's that lunatic fighter in the ufc with the longish curly hair that looks like he's just been released from a cage everytime he enters the ring. runs circles in the ring like he's just had 50 lines of speed.

im not talking PED's here, but there is SOMETHING in that guys system.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: makaveli25 on July 15, 2011, 06:46:57 AM
It's amazing how much money the UFC generates and how little they pay the fighters.  These fighters agree to fight for nothing because it's the only big show in town.  UFC acts like they gave away the farm when they sign a fighter to a 100k contract.  That's not 100k for a singular fight but a contract to be part of the UFC. 

Imagine Pac Man fighting for $200k? He wouldn't fight for under 10 million.

Dana Whites a piece of shit that's why.
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Swede! on July 15, 2011, 06:49:05 AM
who's that lunatic fighter in the ufc with the longish curly hair that looks like he's just been released from a cage everytime he enters the ring. runs circles in the ring like he's just had 50 lines of speed.

im not talking PED's here, but there is SOMETHING in that guys system.

Guida. He trains for that shit since he knows thats pretty much his only way of winning out cardio/wrestling people.
I like him but last fight was boring as fuck.

Insane cardio/recovery though. I remember when I think it was diego kicked him Straight in the fucking face, went down and up again within the same damn second lol
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Swede! on July 15, 2011, 06:51:28 AM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/35lhn2d.gif)

there is it. He actually manage to shoot on the legs of diego if I remember correctly, fucking insane.

it was a crazy fight

(http://imgboot.com/images/igorvanhoe/10000777.gif)
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Secret Stack on July 15, 2011, 06:54:29 AM
thats him. thanks. he aint right lol...
Title: Re: Just found out 10min ago my new gig....
Post by: Swede! on July 15, 2011, 06:56:56 AM
thats him. thanks. he aint right lol...

Hes a special dude. doesnt have a house either but lives in a motorhome or whatever its called, and just travels around training at places.
Comes across as a really nice dude though