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Libya Rebels Get Formal Backing, and $30 Billion
NYT ^ | Published: July 15, 2011 | By SEBNEM ARSU and STEVEN ERLANGER
Posted on July 15, 2011 10:18:25 PM EDT by Borough Park
ISTANBUL — The United States formally recognized the rebel leadership in Libya as the country’s legitimate government on Friday, allowing the rebel government access to $30 billion in Libyan assets held in the United States. It is not yet clear how and when the money would be released. Enlarge This Image
Osman Orsal/Reuters Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton attended the meeting on Libya in Istanbul on Friday. Multimedia
TimesCast | Libyan Rebels Recognized Readers’ Comments Share your thoughts. Post a Comment » Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said at an international gathering held to discuss the Libyan conflict that Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s government no longer had any legitimacy, and that the United States would join more than 30 countries in extending diplomatic recognition to the main opposition group, known as the Transitional National Council.
“We will help the T.N.C. sustain its commitment to the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and national unity of Libya,” Mrs. Clinton said, “and we will look to it to remain steadfast in its commitment to human rights and fundamental freedoms.”
The decision by Washington not only increased diplomatic pressure on Colonel Qaddafi to step down, but also held the prospect of funneling money to rebels to propel an offensive that has proceeded in fits and starts.
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1 posted on July 15, 2011 10:18:29 PM EDT by Borough Park
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Get the heck outta here. >:( The same rebels that might have Al Qaeda elements?
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Get the heck outta here. >:( The same rebels that might have Al Qaeda elements?
Yup. This is obama the transformational potus.
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I'm sure this 30 bill will be used properly.
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Libya Rebels Get Formal Backing, and $30 Billion
NYT ^ | Published: July 15, 2011 | By SEBNEM ARSU and STEVEN ERLANGER
Posted on July 15, 2011 10:18:25 PM EDT by Borough Park
ISTANBUL — The United States formally recognized the rebel leadership in Libya as the country’s legitimate government on Friday, allowing the rebel government access to $30 billion in Libyan assets held in the United States. It is not yet clear how and when the money would be released. Enlarge This Image
Osman Orsal/Reuters Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton attended the meeting on Libya in Istanbul on Friday. Multimedia
TimesCast | Libyan Rebels Recognized Readers’ Comments Share your thoughts. Post a Comment » Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said at an international gathering held to discuss the Libyan conflict that Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s government no longer had any legitimacy, and that the United States would join more than 30 countries in extending diplomatic recognition to the main opposition group, known as the Transitional National Council.
“We will help the T.N.C. sustain its commitment to the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and national unity of Libya,” Mrs. Clinton said, “and we will look to it to remain steadfast in its commitment to human rights and fundamental freedoms.”
The decision by Washington not only increased diplomatic pressure on Colonel Qaddafi to step down, but also held the prospect of funneling money to rebels to propel an offensive that has proceeded in fits and starts.
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1 posted on July 15, 2011 10:18:29 PM EDT by Borough Park
Its Libyan assets that were being held by the U.S. Who gives a shit ::)
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So obama gets to redistribute others money to al quaeda and muslim crazies now too?
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Its Libyan assets that were being held by the U.S. Who gives a shit ::)
U get the part where AQ/whoever is also working in Libya right. They've ID'd weapons and guys who have served in either Iraq or Afghanistan against the US. U libs are beyond naive.
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So obama gets to redistribute others money to al quaeda and muslim crazies now too?
Its not "others" money, its their money that was stolen by Qadaffi and held by the United States for years. In any event, I don't think the world countries would complain about Qadaffi being thrown into exile.
Ronald Reagan approved..... ;D
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U get the part where AQ/whoever is also working in Libya right. They've ID'd weapons and guys who have served in either Iraq or Afghanistan against the US. U libs are beyond naive.
hey vince, read this and respond...
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I'm sire the money will go to the people. Lmao.
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Its Libyan assets that were being held by the U.S. Who gives a shit ::)
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Vince - where do you think the 30 billion will end up.
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Probably right alongside this brand new batch of anti-aircraft missiles that just vanished:
Libya: New Batch Of Shoulder-Fired Antiaircraft Missiles Go Missing From Rebel-Held Weapons Depots
GA’A, Libya (NYT) — Five months after the armed uprising erupted in Libya, a new round of portable antiaircraft missiles — weapons that governments fear could be obtained by terrorists and then fired at civilian jetliners — have been slipping from storage bunkers captured by rebels.
In February, in the early stages of the uprising, large numbers of the missiles slipped from the hands of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s government as the rebels established control over eastern Libya and the ammunition depots there. The leakage resumed recently with rebel gains here in the western mountains, which opened up new ammunition stores.
The new leakage of the missiles, which are of the same type that officials in other African nations have said have already been trafficked over Libya’s borders, underscores the organizational weakness of the forces opposed to Colonel Qaddafi; it also raises concerns that if more Qaddafi depots fall to the rebels, then further stocks of the weapons could become accessible to black markets.
Signs of the diversion are readily visible here, at an ammunition depot captured late last month from the Qaddafi forces after repeated NATO bombings.
On a recent day, 43 emptied wooden crates — long, thin and painted in dark green — had been left behind on the sand inside the entrance. The boxes had not been there during a visit to the same spot a few days before, and the weapons were gone.
The stenciled markings showed each crate had contained a pair of lightweight missiles called SA-7s — early Soviet versions of the same class of weapon as the better known American-made Stingers, which were used by Afghan fighters against the Soviets in Afghanistan. It was not clear who had taken them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/15/world/africa/15libya.html?_r=2&ref=world
Libya is like Toys 'R Us for terrorists right now. Thanks, Obama!
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Why we are ever involved in this is far beyond anything reasonable.
But what should he do with this money?
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Why we are ever involved in this is far beyond anything reasonable.
But what should he do with this money?
Why not start w not using it to fund Muslim radicals? Seems like a start no?
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Why we are ever involved in this is far beyond anything reasonable.
But what should he do with this money?
I have as much claim to that money as foreign jihadists do. I'm not greedy, I'll just take a billion.
It's cool that you're OK with him giving $30 billion to Al Qaeda and various other jihadist groups, though.
240 is back over 3 months ago: Gadhafi will be gone in days.
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Why not start w not using it to fund Muslim radicals? Seems like a start no?
Agreed. But then what?
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I have as much claim to that money as foreign jihadists do. I'm not greedy, I'll just take a billion.
It's cool that you're OK with him giving $30 billion to Al Qaeda and various other jihadist groups, though.
240 is back over 3 months ago: Gadhafi will be gone in days.
How am i ok with it?
Or is that your lame attempt at putting words in my mouth? ::)
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I have as much claim to that money as foreign jihadists do. I'm not greedy, I'll just take a billion.
It's cool that you're OK with him giving $30 billion to Al Qaeda and various other jihadist groups, though.
240 is back over 3 months ago: Gadhafi will be gone in days.
Obama is funding global jihad. His moronic followers are just to ridden w white guilt to see the reality of the monster they worship.
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How am i ok with it?
Or is that your lame attempt at putting words in my mouth? ::)
You seem to think that because there is no other option that you can think of that we might as well just give it to them. So you're OK with funding terrorist groups.
It's funny how quickly people forget that these "rebel" areas sent more fighters to Iraq per capita than any other spot on the planet.
Congratulations on killing Americans, here's $30 billion!
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It's the Obama way. He knows those who support him are fucking morons and will support anything he does, so he tells a few lies, the dirtbags eat it up, and rinse and repeat.
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You seem to think that because there is no other option that you can think of that we might as well just give it to them. So you're OK with funding terrorist groups.
It's funny how quickly people forget that these "rebel" areas sent more fighters to Iraq per capita than any other spot on the planet.
Congratulations on killing Americans, here's $30 billion!
You are being a stupid idiot. I only asked what we should do with it.
Can you answer the question or not?
Or will you continue you lame ass antics?
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What should we do with the money?
Can any one not be a immature douche bag and answer the question?
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You are being a stupid idiot. I only asked what we should do with it.
Can you answer the question or not?
Or will you continue you lame ass antics?
What antics? You keep asking what we should do with it and you appear to be justifying the arming and funding of terrorist groups by arguing that there's nothing better to do with it so why not give it to them.
What right do those rebels have to that money?
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You are being a stupid idiot. I only asked what we should do with it.
Can you answer the question or not?
Or will you continue you lame ass antics?
It's not his to spend.
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why is that called "liberal idiot" when the description is about communism? ???
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It's not his to spend.
I agree. But what to do with it?
Leave it? Give to back to who? What?..
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why is that called "liberal idiot" when the description is about communism? ???
Oh, my. You really were being honest when you admitted that you were a moron.
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I agree. But what to do with it?
Leave it? Give to back to who? What?..
Why evn worry about that at all? And do you really think the 30 billion will go "to the people" as that dope Vince thinks?
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Oh, my. You really were being honest when you admitted that you were a moron.
you really don't know the difference between liberalism and communism? ???
want me to suggest some books for you? Or should you just go by your gut feeling instead of academic sources? :D
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Why evn worry about that at all? And do you really think the 30 billion will go "to the people" as that dope Vince thinks?
These are Libyan assets in the USA what do we do with them?
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you really don't know the difference between liberalism and communism? ???
want me to suggest some books for you? Or should you just go by your gut feeling instead of academic sources? :D
Ahh, playing word games. Weren't you just attacking 333 about that with the use of "zealot".
These are Libyan assets in the USA what do we do with them?
Why are you avoiding my question?
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These are Libyan assets in the USA what do we do with them?
Why not use the money to rebuild all the shit we blew up?
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Ahh, playing word games. Weren't you just attacking 333 about that with the use of "zealot".
Why are you avoiding my question?
What question? ::)
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Ahh, playing word games. Weren't you just attacking 333 about that with the use of "zealot".
making up definitions for words (liberalism = communism) and then calling me a moron because i don't agree with you is different than confusing two political theories that have existed for centuries (liberalism vs. communism).
Not "word games". Still want some books to read? :D
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making up definitions for words (liberalism = communism) and then calling me a moron because i don't agree with you is different than confusing two political theories that have existed for centuries (liberalism vs. communism).
Not "word games". Still want some books to read? :D
Communism is a right-wing ideology. You heard it here first, folks!
Also, "zealot" has dozens of different definitions!
Mr. Magoo: rewriting history one-step at a time.
What question? ::)
Someone fails at reading comprehension.
AGAIN, what right do the rebels have to that money?
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Why not use the money to rebuild all the shit we blew up?
Not a bad idea..... Need to think about that one. Or how about set a libyan anti-AQntask force?
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Someone fails at reading comprehension.
AGAIN, what right do the rebels have to that money?
Oh you mean the idiot that thought the question "what should we do with the money?" meant we should give it to the rebels?
No, that idiot is too stupid to comprehend much.
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Communism is a right-wing ideology. You heard it here first, folks!
Also, "zealot" has dozens of different definitions!
Mr. Magoo: rewriting history one-step at a time.
That wasn't even a reply. ???
That would be like me saying all conservatives are libertarians, or all fascists are conservatives, or all atheists are christians. It's not an issue of "word games", those are just misunderstandings. It's not rewriting history when liberalism and communism are two separate political theories, each having a long history of works devoted to them.
So again I ask, why did the description in the picture say "communism" when the title was "liberal"? You really do think they're the same don't you? :D
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Oh you mean the idiot that thought the question "what should we do with the money?" meant we should give it to the rebels?
No, that idiot is too stupid to comprehend much.
...he says as he continues avoiding the question while making excuses for arming terrorists.
What right do the rebels have to that money?
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...he says as he continues avoiding the question while making excuses for arming terrorists.
What right do the rebels have to that money?
Don't know,
Now answer my question. 333333 did without turning into an idiot. You can do it too. Just try. Set a goal. Give yourself lots of positive affirmations. Such as: I think I can, I think I can.
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Don't know,
Now answer my question. 333333 did without turning into an idiot. You can do it too. Just try. Set a goal. Give yourself lots of positive affirmations. Such as: I think I can, I think I can.
I can think of a thousand different options, last of which would be giving it to terrorists.
I certainly wouldn't give it to them because, "why not?" :)
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I can think of a thousand different options, last of which would be giving it to terrorists.
This is Obama we are talking about. What is last on 99 percent of people's minds is typically first on his.
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Vince - where do you think the 30 billion will end up.
In the Libyan Rebel's hands but its their money, not ours.
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I can think of a thousand different options, last of which would be giving it to terrorists.
I certainly wouldn't give it to them because, "why not?" :)
Ok, let's see some.
I agree, not to give to the rebels
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In the Libyan Rebel's hands but its their money, not ours.
Based on what?
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I'm curious, is the 30 billion Ghadafis money?
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I'm curious, is the 30 billion Ghadafis money?
Don't know. I will investigate for a contingeny fee.
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Don't know. I will investigate for a contingeny fee.
Before we start making judgement shouldn't we know whose money it is?
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I'm curious, is the 30 billion Ghadafis money?
It certainly doesn't belong to the foreign jihadists comprising many of the rebel ranks. ::)
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It certainly doesn't belong to the foreign jihadists comprising many of the rebel ranks. ::)
No doubt, but it belongs to someone.
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Why we are ever involved in this is far beyond anything reasonable.
But what should he do with this money?
Not sure. Hold it till their civil war is over?
One thing I do know: we shouldn't be giving any support to rebels that might have terrorist elements whose mission in life is to kill Americans.
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It certainly doesn't belong to the foreign jihadists comprising many of the rebel ranks. ::)
Agree.
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We could use those money ourselves right now fuck the Libyans