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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Painlayer69 on July 16, 2011, 01:02:00 PM
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So i have recently been put on tegretol and haldol both that work as anti depressant and as an anti pshycotic and my psyc doc said to stop taking my Jack3d and the fat burner that i was stacking with it ( Its the one made by the same company Oxy something ) What could be safe to take on top of my medications that would still allow for some good thermogenic action?
Thx guys and gals
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7 keto DHEA??
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So i have recently been put on tegretol and haldol both that work as anti depressant and as an anti pshycotic and my psyc doc said to stop taking my Jack3d and the fat burner that i was stacking with it ( Its the one made by the same company Oxy something ) What could be safe to take on top of my medications that would still allow for some good thermogenic action?
Thx guys and gals
All thermogenics are noradrenergic to some degree, and you shouldn't take either antidepressants or anticonvulsants with thermogenics. You shouldn't take drugs that stimulate the sympathetic nervous system with thermogenics due to the synergistic effect. The only safe thermogenic for you is narangin. But I don't know how effective it is.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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All thermogenics are noradrenergic to some degree, and you shouldn't take either antidepressants or anticonvulsants with thermogenics. You shouldn't take drugs that stimulate the sympathetic nervous system with thermogenics due to the synergistic effect. The only safe thermogenic for you is narangin. But I don't know how effective it is.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Thx man that was helpful although very hard to hear.......Any diet tips? Im so sick of looking at my gut that im starting to get physically sick because of it. Im currently 237 and want to be at a leaned out 200-210 im in the gym and eating kind of clean with atleast two high protein shakes a day
( Before and after my workout ) Would broccoli actually work as an anti-estrogen like i have heard? If so how much a day could/should i eat for this purpose?
Thx again
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Thx man that was helpful although very hard to hear.......Any diet tips?
Find out how many calories you need to maintain your current bodyweight, then subtract 500 calories from that and spread it over 6 meals. For every meal get a lean protein with very low glycemic carbs and vegetables. The protein is important because it furthers decreases the glycemic load of the carbs, and spares muscle which keeps your metabolism high. The vegetables are important for G.I health, vitamin/minerals and antioxidants and keeps you full. Do one hour of low-intensity aerobics first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, or if you feel light-headed, do it in the afternoon. It is very important to do your weight training, as the more muscle you have the more calories you'll burn while resting.
Finding out how many calories you need to maintain your current bodyweight can be done in two manners. You can do it professionally with a calorimeter, which is impractical, or write down everything you eat for three days, add up the calories by checking on calorie tabs, which are easily available, then divide by three. This will give you an idea of your daily calorie intake. Proceed as elucidated above.
Im so sick of looking at my gut that im starting to get physically sick because of it. Im currently 237 and want to be at a leaned out 200-210 im in the gym and eating kind of clean with atleast two high protein shakes a day
( Before and after my workout ) Would broccoli actually work as an anti-estrogen like i have heard?
There is no evidence that the indols and carbinols in broccoli have any significant anti-etrogen effect on male Humans, and even if it did, you would need to eat pounds of broccoli a day to get a useful dosage. Also, broccoli contains fiber, and even though fiber is good for your G.I health, it supresses testosterone levels. So any anti-estrogen effect from eating broccoli would be mitigated by it's testosterone-suppressing effect like any other fibrous food.
If so how much a day could/should i eat for this purpose?
To lose bodyfat, as long as you are using more calories than you ingest, you will lose bodyfat. You will also lose muscle, but if you don't care about that, just eating less calories than you consume will cause a reduction in your bodyfat levels. Being catabolic causes you to lose both bodyfat and muscle. To lose bodyfat whilst preserving muscle, follow my advice given above.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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To lose bodyfat, as long as you are using more calories than you ingest, you will lose bodyfat. You will also lose muscle, but if you don't care about that, just eating less calories than you consume will cause a reduction in your bodyfat levels. Being catabolic causes you to lose both bodyfat and muscle. To lose bodyfat whilst preserving muscle, follow my advice given above.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL unfortunately i do NOT want to lose muscle as i am looking to put some back on and i know it sounds stupid but i wanna try to lean out as much as i can while doing this. Thank u very much for all of this info man i will take the next couple days to try and make a plan from all this.
Thank you