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Title: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 12:10:32 PM
Might make a hell of a lot better if they would just introduce thenselves then go away until we need them....but no, not even out my car yet and they fucking swarm me and my wife. I hate that....fuck!
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 21, 2011, 12:12:25 PM
Might make a hell of a lot better if they would just introduce thenselves then go away until we need them....but no, not even out my car yet and they fucking swarm me and my wife. I hate that....fuck!

Maybe you looked like an easy mark?
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: gym**rat on July 21, 2011, 12:15:59 PM
The damn sales people in furniture stores are just as bad if not worse. Went to 4 different furniture stores with my wife Tuesday night and every place had some fucking bozo on my heels. Finally got sick of it on the 4th store and told the guy I was completely furnishing my new 5 bedroom home (lie) but since he would not back off I was going somewhere else. The look on his face was priceless.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: mass243 on July 21, 2011, 12:16:26 PM
Aren't they that way in every place?

I hate it when I go shopping for clothes (no homo) the fukin' sellers start to swarm around... it's embarrassing enough for a grown man to shop for clothes and then these stupid bitches think I care what they recommend or value their "expertise"

FUKERS! LEAVE US ALONE WHEN WE DO OUR SHOPPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: gym**rat on July 21, 2011, 12:22:47 PM
Aren't they that way in every place?

I hate it when I go shopping for clothes (no homo) the fukin' sellers start to swarm around... it's embarrassing enough for a grown man to shop for clothes and then these stupid bitches think I care what they recommend or value their "expertise"

FUKERS! LEAVE US ALONE WHEN WE DO OUR SHOPPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What pisses me off the most is the little booths in the malls where the middle east people are selling their "wonder lotion". They walk in front of you and go "Can I ask you a question". My wife takes off now because this one nasty bitch blocked us and asked that and I said, "No, let me ask you a question, where is that stink coming from?"
They also have these massage booths in the malls, when the oriental massage lady asks if I would like a massage I reply "Happy ending included??". Again, she takes off before I reply.  ;D
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2011, 01:38:08 PM
That's the training at a car dealsership. Every customer coming on the lot is to be greeted ASAP and put under control. The results of every "up", as customers are called, are documented in a log. The objective is to close everyone coming in. A dealership isn't a mall store for you to browse and enjoy yourself. Its about selling you a car before someone else does. And nothing you say or do will ever change that.

These old school cheesy sales tactics don't work anymore in todays society. Last time I bought a new car I offered them 200 above dealer cost and got the car. This will only work on new cars. Go in informed tell them this is your offer and it's take it or leave it, PERIOD. There are too many other dealers out there that will take your offer.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Nails on July 21, 2011, 01:58:35 PM
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2011, 02:00:07 PM
cost or invoice?  Unless it was a very low end model you probably mean invoice.


and yes, the buyer should be ready to walk out.

Invoice
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 02:04:51 PM
You can't force someone to buying something if they don't want. Example, I went to two car dealers and both times I got the same approach, irritated the fuck out me, then we went to a third, a Volkswagon dealer, guy came out, introduced himself and proceded to say, go look around if you have any questions just let me know I'll be inside. He came back out about 15min later to see if we had any questions, we said yes, can we test drive this car? He got the keys, we drove (no pressure even while driving), an hour later, we have a car, he has a commission. THAT'S the way it should be!
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2011, 02:08:01 PM
You can't beat the dealer at their own game. They aren't doing shit for you unless there's money in it for them: profit on the car, lowballing your trade, marking up the finance rate, extended warranties, GAP insurance...reading an article on the internet on beating the dealer isn't going to help much. People get conned and rooked every minute of every day in car dealerships.

Only if YOU let them. I got turned down once and a week later they called and said they would except my offer. I had already bought a car by then and let them know. A friend of mine went to a dealership to buy a new car went in with a slip of paper with his offer told them he was a very busy guy (he's a Dr) was very polite told them if they couldn't accept his offer no hard feeling. They said no he turned to leave and they did everything they could to try and get him back. They knew it was a fair offer, but they thought they could play games. This was a 80K car and when they found out he was a DR they knew they screwed up. If you are a good saleman you know when to shut up and you know when someone is serious and to take the offer. Not only did they lose him but his future business and prob some of his friends.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Nails on July 21, 2011, 02:08:45 PM
those car salesman must work for Alec Baldwin



Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 02:15:10 PM
@redmeat....we got the Volkswagon CC for my wife. I'm going back in a couple of weeks for this 2009 Jetta for me.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on July 21, 2011, 02:18:09 PM
Even worse are the waiters at upmarket steakhouses in the USA. The introduce themselves, fawn over you, ask you about your family, always have a connection with whatever part of the world you come from.

 I was in one back in May and our waiter actually wasn't that bad (probably because I was cold towards him) but the young "italian" waiter serving the couple next to us was an annoying greebo bastard. He identified that the older couple (in for their anniversary) were italian looking so milked it for all he was worth. I swear he was talking to them for more than half the time they were there. Their eyes were glazed over as he spoke about his grandparents coming from the old country. Unfortunately they asked him his name and the old man pointed out that his name was actually spanish and "was he sure he wasn't mexican?".  Ha ha, it was amusing to see him make up a story to explain that one.

Then the wife's steak was too undercooked and was sent back, the waiter had to go into fawning overdrive to compensate for that. What a bunch of complete dicks trying to get a big tip from getting diners to like them.
Made for an entertaining dinner mind you.  Just wish the old guy had told him to fuck off and leave them in peace.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 21, 2011, 02:20:08 PM
Don't get me started on fucking REALTORS......  ::)
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 21, 2011, 02:23:54 PM
You can't force someone to buying something if they don't want. Example, I went to two car dealers and both times I got the same approach, irritated the fuck out me, then we went to a third, a Volkswagon dealer, guy came out, introduced himself and proceded to say, go look around if you have any questions just let me know I'll be inside. He came back out about 15min later to see if we had any questions, we said yes, can we test drive this car? He got the keys, we drove (no pressure even while driving), an hour later, we have a car, he has a commission. THAT'S the way it should be!

You might have a high net worth/income, but you're fucking yourself buying a car new from a dealer.  You can find the exact same car in perfect condition with less than 5k miles for much cheaper.

I can't bring myself to absorb that depreciation that comes from pulling the car off the lot.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The True Adonis on July 21, 2011, 02:25:53 PM
@redmeat....we got the Volkswagon CC for my wife. I'm going back in a couple of weeks for this 2009 Jetta for me.
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The True Adonis on July 21, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
@redmeat....we got the Volkswagon CC for my wife. I'm going back in a couple of weeks for this 2009 Jetta for me.
Could have at least bought American you peckerwood.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 21, 2011, 02:28:55 PM
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Jetta....

Coach, are you gay?

WTF?
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 02:29:43 PM
Yes TA, gotta problem with that? Let me know so I can keep pwning you.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 21, 2011, 02:30:33 PM
Yes TA, gotta problem with that? Let me know so I can keep pwning you.

I respect you Coach, but come on... Buy yourself a mans car, you deserve it!
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 02:35:41 PM
Thanks redmeat, first volkswagon, love the car. BTW TA, it matches my $36k Roger DuBuis watch. Turd.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2011, 02:46:06 PM
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

We know we know u r so sophisticated oh and you're ripped too cause u said.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Stavios on July 21, 2011, 02:54:50 PM
Thanks redmeat, first volkswagon, love the car. BTW TA, it matches my $36k Roger DuBuis watch. Turd.

LMAO  ;D
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 03:08:17 PM
I was serious about the watch, but about TA, this what I've learned over the years working with wealthy self-made people. You don't boast about your wealth and don't make fun of people who have less. THOSE are the people who 9 out of 10 times don't have a pot to piss in.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: mass243 on July 21, 2011, 03:09:16 PM
Could have at least bought American you peckerwood.

IMO it was all the time quite obvious The Coach is a democrat deep in his heart LOL

Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Dokey111 on July 21, 2011, 03:11:46 PM
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

LOL
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: HTexan on July 21, 2011, 03:16:49 PM
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 03:19:09 PM
I have an American car, 2005 Dodge Durango with a 135000mile, I love it. Its my everything truck.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Stavios on July 21, 2011, 03:23:12 PM
I was serious about the watch, but about TA, this what I've learned over the years working with wealthy self-made people. You don't boast about your wealth and don't make fun of people who have less. THOSE are the people who 9 out of 10 times don't have a pot to piss in.

damn I would never have a 36k watch

holly shit I'll be anxious about not breaking it or losing it all the time

it pisses me off to lose 200$ sunglasses, can't imagine a 36k watch
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
The only time I ware it is when we go out to nice dinners, award ceremonies, etc. Usually about once a month.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: HTexan on July 21, 2011, 04:00:12 PM
I have an American car, 2005 Dodge Durango with a 135000mile, I love it. Its my everything truck.
What are you doing with an SUV? Your short ass needs an elevator to get into anything bigger then a honda fit. :D
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 04:10:33 PM
My golf bag fits better in it :)
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: garebear on July 21, 2011, 04:12:36 PM
Y'all sounds like some bitches.

You know that?
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The True Adonis on July 21, 2011, 04:17:02 PM
I was serious about the watch, but about TA, this what I've learned over the years working with wealthy self-made people. You don't boast about your wealth and don't make fun of people who have less. THOSE are the people who 9 out of 10 times don't have a pot to piss in.
I disagree, you can boast if you want to, or you do not have to, it has no bearing on the status of wealth.  It is irrelevant and up to the individual.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 04:21:46 PM
Haha, it a sign of insecurity and a need for attention.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The True Adonis on July 21, 2011, 04:23:09 PM
Haha, it a sign of insecurity and a need for attention.
Is that how you explain away the watch?  I personally do not see it as insecurity or a need for attention at all.  I have no idea what your case is though,
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 04:32:33 PM
The watch remark was a direct reponse to your pompous response to the kind of car I bought
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The True Adonis on July 21, 2011, 04:40:23 PM
The watch remark was a direct reponse to your pompous response to the kind of car I bought
???
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 04:44:03 PM
Was this or was this not your response when said what car I bought?

"LMAoooooooooo" (or something like that)
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The True Adonis on July 21, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
Was this or was this not your response when said what car I bought?

"LMAoooooooooo" (or something like that)
The price is not what I found amusing.  The fact that it was a Non-American car and a VW CC and a Jetta at that.

It would be salt over the shoulder if you were anyone other than "The Coach".  Understand?
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2011, 04:46:56 PM
I disagree, you can boast if you want to, or you do not have to, it has no bearing on the status of wealth.  It is irrelevant and up to the individual.

He may have been referrng more to your state of mental maturiy which you sorely lack. It's obvious that some of the possesions that u have acquired already in your life make u feel the need to brag. This is due to to your level of maturity. Your thoughts are very simplistic and it's easy to see why.  
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 04:48:53 PM
And his inheritance.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The True Adonis on July 21, 2011, 04:53:44 PM
He may have been referrng more to your state of mental maturiy which you sorely lack. It's obvious that some of the possesions that u have acquired already in your life make u feel the need to brag. This is due to to your level of maturity. Your thoughts are very simplistic and it's easy to see why.  
At least we all know that you and Coach are not jealous of my physique. (supposedly).  Isn`t that enough to console yourself and quell any envy?
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: kh300 on July 21, 2011, 04:58:37 PM
My girl was buying a car a few months ago, so I started to wonder around the lot. I was looking at a range rover and a salesman comes over to me. He didnt want to hear that I wasnt looking, and made some jackass comments like I couldn't afford one. So I had him show it to me, then took it for a test drive. Then when we got out he wanted to talk numbers. So I asked if I could put a snorkel on it. He looks at me like 'wtf' and goes no, I think only hummers have them.

I then said, oh really, not interested then walked off.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 21, 2011, 05:07:36 PM
Everything is designed to make you think you beat the dealer. It's a trillion dollar industry. They are not stupid.  When I hear a moron say they bought a new car for $200 dollars over what the dealer paid I just have to laugh.  They would be out of business if they didn't make thousands per car. They would never sell a car for a couple hundred profit. They are not selling lawn mowers.  They succeeded in the scam that is selling a car while  deceiving another moron buyer that thinks they beat the dealer. They are not that easy a mark.  They will show you a tissue invoice, Ha, Ha. I'm sure it's real.  

I got a consumers reports on a new car giving me the invoice on a van I wanted. I went to another source and got the "tissue" invoice.  Lastly I went to a third. I got the van for $2000 under what the they all said the invoice was.  Did they give away the car for $2K under what they paid for it?  No, I bet they made a minimum of 4K.  

Car dealers have one invoice if they order one car. If they order 10 it's a different price. If they order 100 it's different price.  An example of this is in NJ   the State Police bought a bunch of Ford Crown Vics and Dodge Durangos.  They bought each one for around 18K.  Now if you did your reseach you wouldn't come close to that 18k being the invoice.  Yet at 18K the dealers dealing with the state was making a boat loads of money.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2011, 05:09:44 PM
At least we all know that you and Coach are not jealous of my physique. (supposedly).  Isn`t that enough to console yourself and quell any envy?

I actually feel bad to say this cause no one can help how they are born so all I will say is I envy nothing when it pertains to your physique
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The Grim Lifter on July 21, 2011, 05:12:38 PM
My girl was buying a car a few months ago, so I started to wonder around the lot. I was looking at a range rover and a salesman comes over to me. He didnt want to hear that I wasnt looking, and made some jackass comments like I couldn't afford one. So I had him show it to me, then took it for a test drive. Then when we got out he wanted to talk numbers. So I asked if I could put a snorkel on it. He looks at me like 'wtf' and goes no, I think only hummers have them.

I then said, oh really, not interested then walked off.

This is a common trick by salespeople in all industries.

You're not good enough to own this, (or get this job etc) so you buy it to prove them wrong. What if you say 'yeh you're right i'm poor as shit can you spare a dollar'
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The True Adonis on July 21, 2011, 05:22:24 PM
This is a common trick by salespeople in all industries.

You're not good enough to own this, (or get this job etc) so you buy it to prove them wrong. What if you say 'yeh you're right i'm poor as shit can you spare a dollar'
That certainly IS NOT a good tactic.  One NEVER EVER insults a customer or a potential one EVER. I used to hang around the Ferrari dealership, was friends with all the sales people and service as that is where I took my Lotus. I would see people come in who may not look like they could afford a Ferrari, Porsche, Aston Martin etc.. and they`d purchase on the spot.  Never once did they judge the customer, nor would they ever.

Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Stavios on July 21, 2011, 05:28:21 PM
That certainly IS NOT a good tactic.  One NEVER EVER insults a customer or a potential one EVER. I used to hang around the Ferrari dealership, was friends with all the sales people and service as that is where I took my Lotus. I would see people come in who may not look like they could afford a Ferrari, Porsche, Aston Martin etc.. and they`d purchase on the spot.  Never once did they judge the customer, nor would they ever.



EXACTLY !

my friend went to ford to buy a F-250 Harley 4 years ago.

he was 20 years old and still had his working clothes on (construction worker so he was dirty)

he asked the guy: how much is the truck ?
the guy said: too expensive for you

my friend said nothing, he started talking with the youngest sellman, probably a new guy there who started not long ago. He told them he I like this truck can I do a test drive. the young guy was super happy, made him do a test drive and my friend bought the truck that same day

Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: kh300 on July 21, 2011, 05:46:57 PM
Read the 'power of persuasion' awesome book that shows all of the ways salesman try to scam you, and how you can do it to others.

Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 21, 2011, 05:52:31 PM
I'll tell you another trick they use.  When you are sitting there negotiating with the salesman and he has to go back to talk to the manager they hear everything you are saying at his desk.  The desk is bugged so they can listen to what's your bottom line price on buying the car.  This happens at so many dealers.  

Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: che on July 21, 2011, 05:55:39 PM
You don't boast about your wealth

Haha, listen to this fagg0t

''I'll write you next week from my home in Palm Springs on a golf course after I leave my home on the beach because my son is on summer vacation from his private
school................"                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                       The Coach
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2011, 06:24:07 PM
I'll tell you another trick they use.  When you are sitting there negotiating with the salesman and he has to go back to talk to the manager they hear everything you are saying at his desk.  The desk is bugged so they can listen to what's your bottom line price on buying the car.  This happens at so many dealers.  



Another reason to go in and offer X amount over invoice. Of course this is not what they pay, but so what. I have no problem with them making money. Doing it this way assures that you don't have to deal with all the BS and you save a few thousand also. With that being said I would never buy a car from a dealer ever again. Buy them one to two years old and save a ton.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 21, 2011, 06:30:49 PM
Buy everything on the Internet fuck car salesmen.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2011, 06:44:11 PM
Buy everything on the Internet fuck car salesmen.

How?
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: HTexan on July 21, 2011, 06:46:37 PM
How?
craigslist personal ad?
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Parker on July 21, 2011, 06:53:24 PM
Read this article on how a guy got a Porsche Carrera 911 S Mark 2, after selling his 2011 BMW 335is...it pays to know what you are dealing, and know how to get the hook up
http://www.autospies.com/news/Agent-001-Gets-Bit-By-Black-Friday-Bug-And-Gets-A-911-WHAT-Black-Friday-Deals-On-Porsche-s-Now-59602/  (http://www.autospies.com/news/Agent-001-Gets-Bit-By-Black-Friday-Bug-And-Gets-A-911-WHAT-Black-Friday-Deals-On-Porsche-s-Now-59602/)
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Disgusted on July 21, 2011, 07:26:20 PM
craigslist personal ad?

I think he is talking new.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 08:05:50 PM
Haha, listen to this fagg0t

''I'll write you next week from my home in Palm Springs on a golf course after I leave my home on the beach because my son is on summer vacation from his private
school................"                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                       The Coach

LMAO....hey dumbshit. I remember that. Why don't you also post what that was in response to? You're a fucking CNN reporter, always twisting the truth or the context it was written. You liberals are so fucking predictable...hahahahaha!
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: tweeter on July 21, 2011, 10:32:10 PM
Congrats on the new car Coach; I'm in the market right now myself. What color did you go for?
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: mass243 on July 21, 2011, 10:35:54 PM
To be honest I wouldn't have the balls to roll on streets in VW in America where everyone else is driving huge Hummers and Dodge Rams ;D
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 10:40:14 PM
Congrats on the new car Coach; I'm in the market right now myself. What color did you go for?

Thanks. Black w/Gray (kinda) anodized rims.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2011, 10:42:33 PM
To be honest I wouldn't have the balls to roll on streets in VW in America where everyone else is driving huge Hummers and Dodge Rams ;D

LOL...I'm in California where everyone drives a Prius and Hybrids. I kept my Dodge Durango so my testosterone levels stay high. Haha.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Andy Griffin on July 22, 2011, 02:43:24 AM
Aren't they that way in every place?

I hate it when I go shopping for clothes (no homo) the fukin' sellers start to swarm around... it's embarrassing enough for a grown man to shop for clothes and then these stupid bitches think I care what they recommend or value their "expertise"

FUKERS! LEAVE US ALONE WHEN WE DO OUR SHOPPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The most ironic element of the experience is that once you have made your selection and are ready to pay, you can't find anyone available to take your money. 
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Andy Griffin on July 22, 2011, 02:50:30 AM
I remember many of the cheesy slogans that salespeople in all businesses hear:

"Sell the sizzle, not the steak."  ::)

"People hate to be sold, but they love to buy."  ::)

" 'No' is just the first step to 'yes' ."   ::)

"Customers don't care how much you know until they know how much you care."   ::)

"Plan your work, then work your plan."   ::)
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Parker on July 22, 2011, 03:35:39 AM
I remember many of the cheesy slogans that salespeople in all businesses hear:

"Sell the sizzle, not the steak."  ::)

"People hate to be sold, but they love to buy."  ::)

" 'No' is just the first step to 'yes' ."   ::)
"Customers don't care how much you know until they know how much you care."   ::)

"Plan your work, then work your plan."   ::)
When I was woring a summer job at Footlocker, we were told to bring 5 things to the bench...so I got real good at hooking up outfits for the women (tennis outfit, shorts, socks, shoes, sportsbras, etc,) socks, shorts,  for the guys. WHen back to school rolled around, I remember this one sale I wasdoing and I brought a pack of socks for a guy who was buying shoes for his kid---he thrw the sock back at me and and siad,, "We don't need or want your socks! We only came to buy shoes, and that's it. Why do you have to push stuff on people?!"
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 22, 2011, 04:35:51 AM
craigslist personal ad?
Here's one site that might help take the hassle out of dealing with car salesmen assholes..

http://www.carsdirect.com
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 22, 2011, 07:37:40 AM
You might have a high net worth/income, but you're fucking yourself buying a car new from a dealer.  You can find the exact same car in perfect condition with less than 5k miles for much cheaper.

I can't bring myself to absorb that depreciation that comes from pulling the car off the lot.

We didn't by new, we got a 2010 certified pre-owned. I agree with you. Buying new is a waste, but damn I love the smell of a new car.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: G_Thang on July 22, 2011, 07:59:47 AM
Everything is designed to make you think you beat the dealer. It's a trillion dollar industry. They are not stupid.  When I hear a moron say they bought a new car for $200 dollars over what the dealer paid I just have to laugh.  They would be out of business if they didn't make thousands per car. They would never sell a car for a couple hundred profit. They are not selling lawn mowers.  They succeeded in the scam that is selling a car while  deceiving another moron buyer that thinks they beat the dealer. They are not that easy a mark.  They will show you a tissue invoice, Ha, Ha. I'm sure it's real.  

I got a consumers reports on a new car giving me the invoice on a van I wanted. I went to another source and got the "tissue" invoice.  Lastly I went to a third. I got the van for $2000 under what the they all said the invoice was.  Did they give away the car for $2K under what they paid for it?  No, I bet they made a minimum of 4K.  

Car dealers have one invoice if they order one car. If they order 10 it's a different price. If they order 100 it's different price.  An example of this is in NJ   the State Police bought a bunch of Ford Crown Vics and Dodge Durangos.  They bought each one for around 18K.  Now if you did your reseach you wouldn't come close to that 18k being the invoice.  Yet at 18K the dealers dealing with the state was making a boat loads of money.

the best you can do is get a better deal than the clown sitting at the table next to you.

Me 2001 Accord - 2.95%, 0 down, 1500$ rebates, 355$ month
Some Chick and her mom - 17.95%, $2500 down, 0 rebates, 515$ month

we both got the same car, so the bitch dealers made up the difference on the other customers

I have another car since than, pretty much same deal for a pre-owned like coach.
 
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Hulkotron on July 22, 2011, 08:19:10 AM
you're talking about needledick customers who want to feel like they won. They just waste everone's time and when they do buy its a minimum commission, so who cares? 80% of customers are impulse buyers and can be put together. Any car salesman who allows customers to walk the lot unattended is costoing the dealership thousands. There's reasons why big dealerships do the same things everytime despite people saying "it shouldn't be this way."

80% of people don't impulse buy a car you dunderhead.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 22, 2011, 09:33:48 AM
When I bought my Nissan Altima SL a few months back I sent emails to the internet salesman at 3 locations asking for their best price on what I wanted. My criteria was exactly what I wanted, and in their language, taken from their own website so there was no confusion.

Of the 3 figures I got back, I worked with the 2 lowest figures letting each know I was seeking bids from other places. I was able to quickly zero in on one dealership, fine tuning the deal after a test drive. It was painless, I'm told internet salesmen don't require the same profit margin as the floor salesmen as they deal in volume. I got the car at a great price, they made some money, I got the best deal possible.

I had already prepped my salesman with the info that I have walked out of the F&I office in the past and will do so again if I am pressured on GAP, Extended, etc. It was a zero finance deal through nissan so the interest rate wasn't a factor. I was in and out in 15 minutes because the F&I guy was already informed I wasn't interested.

I would recommend using the internet if you're buying a new car.

   
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: Andy Griffin on July 22, 2011, 12:47:36 PM
When I was woring a summer job at Footlocker, we were told to bring 5 things to the bench...so I got real good at hooking up outfits for the women (tennis outfit, shorts, socks, shoes, sportsbras, etc,) socks, shorts,  for the guys. WHen back to school rolled around, I remember this one sale I wasdoing and I brought a pack of socks for a guy who was buying shoes for his kid---he thrw the sock back at me and and siad,, "We don't need or want your socks! We only came to buy shoes, and that's it. Why do you have to push stuff on people?!"

I know exactly what you are talking about.  Even Beavis and Butthead made fun of "upselling" in one of their segments.  Butthead ordered a burger or something, and Beavis, working as the cashier, asked, "mmm heh heh You want fries with that?  mmm  heh heh"  Butthead shouted, "Did I ASK for fries??  Let me speak to your manager, boy."   :D
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: HTexan on July 22, 2011, 04:51:43 PM
I think he is talking new.
He said he wanted to fuck a car salesman.  ;D
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 22, 2011, 06:29:52 PM
This is a common trick by salespeople in all industries.

You're not good enough to own this, (or get this job etc) so you buy it to prove them wrong. What if you say 'yeh you're right i'm poor as shit can you spare a dollar'

Oh it works. Usually with short people. Just look how easy it is to get someone on this board to post a picture of one of their bodyparts knowing damn well they are going to get pwned to hell and back. These sales guys just do a little trolling to get into the psyche of the guy. Look at Groink, the guy was dying to post his new picture even with a disturbing set of bitch tits. Mark my words, he has next to zero legs but over the next month he will find the best lighting and after a 1000 tries he will post a leg shot.
Title: Re: Car salesmen...
Post by: dyslexic on July 22, 2011, 06:35:54 PM
Actually it can be kind of fun, especially if you are looking at a car that you know more about than they do ...


I do it all the time just for entertainment-  and a test drive of course.