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Source: Washington Post
McCain erupts: Conservatives are lying to America
By Greg Sargent
So the debt limit debate has come to this: John McCain, who you may recall was the GOP’s 2008 standard bearer, is now openly accusing conservatives of actively misleading America with their completely unrealistic demands, which he labeled “deceiving” and “bizarro.”
In a seminal moment in this debate, here’s some video of McCain on the Senate floor today, unleashing an angry tirade at conservatives who are still holding out for a balanced budget amendment as part of any compromise on the debt ceiling. McCain accused them of “deceiving” America into believing such a thing can pass the Senate:
To such conservatives, McCain offered a simple answer: You’re in fantasy-land, and you’re doing your constituents a disservice by perpetuating the falsehood that such a thing can ever happen.
“What is really amazing about this is that some members are believing that we can pass a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution in this body with its present representation — and that is foolish,” McCain said angrily. “That is worse than foolish. That is deceiving many of our constituents.” McCain went on to rip the idea as “bizarro.”
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The only thing worse than McCain winning in 2008, was well, Obama.
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The only thing worse than McCain winning in 2008, was well, Obama.
why do you suppose the majority of repubs voted for him?
cause the majority of repubs are RINOs?
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McCain accusing people of being in fantasy land?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH AHAHAAHAHAHAAHA
Why doesnt this guy just fuck off?
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why do you suppose the majority of repubs voted for him?
cause the majority of repubs are RINOs?
You have no clue how the primary system works.
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You have no clue how the primary system works.
why do you suppose the repubs allow for such a system?
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Don't know. It should be closed primary.
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finally,
the McCain we knew, loved and missed is back.
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isn't it funny how similar things would be under a mccain presidency?
WARS- they'd be the same.
ECONOMY - Bush delivered 3 tril in bailouts, obama at 787 billion so far.
TAX CUTS - Obama kept bush tax cuts, and mccain said he'd do the same
AMNESTY- Obama and mccain were identical
DEBT CEILING - Obama and mccain are now identical, we see.
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McCain has been in DC to long, he wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the ass.
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RAND PAUL KICKS ASS!
http://twitter.com/#!/SenRandPaul
SenRandPaul Senator Rand Paul
To those referring to "Tea Party hobbits." I'd rather be a hobbit than a troll. #WeThePeople http://twitpic.com/5x6693
Best donation I ever made.
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RAND PAUL KICKS ASS!
http://twitter.com/#!/SenRandPaul
SenRandPaul Senator Rand Paul
To those referring to "Tea Party hobbits." I'd rather be a hobbit than a troll. #WeThePeople http://twitpic.com/5x6693
DC doesn't want anyone or anything messing with business as usual
Best donation I ever made.
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Just the opinion of a whore...
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McCain is and always was a RINO....but compared to Obama a dead body would be better.
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RAND PAUL KICKS ASS!
http://twitter.com/#!/SenRandPaul
SenRandPaul Senator Rand Paul
To those referring to "Tea Party hobbits." I'd rather be a hobbit than a troll. #WeThePeople http://twitpic.com/5x6693
Best donation I ever made.
isn't this the guy who thinks defaulting is a good idea? he also believes in angels and demons along with noahs ark being real and that the world was created as per genesis. Get the fuck out of here.
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isn't this the guy who thinks defaulting is a good idea? he also believes in angels and demons along with noahs ark being real and that the world was created as per genesis. Get the fuck out of here.
We have already defaulted by printing trillions on phoney money and debasing the currency. Get with the program and stop abusing the meds in the office.
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We have already defaulted by printing trillions on phoney money and debasing the currency. Get with the program and stop abusing the meds in the office.
Ok so you think that someone with fantastical thinking in a major area in his life, someone who denies reality and fact on such huge issues can make cogent decisions on something as big as this?
You are putting alot of trust these teabaggers won't deny reality and fuck the world up. Oh wait they do, evolution check, global warming check, cardon dioxides effects check, seperation of gov and religion check. Im not against repubs, its just that its clear they have some really far right nuts that should never be given power.
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Ok so you think that someone with fantastical thinking in a major area in his life, someone who denies reality and fact on such huge issues can make cogent decisions on something as big as this?
You are putting alot of trust these teabaggers won't deny reality and fuck the world up. Oh wait they do, evolution check, global warming check, cardon dioxides effects check, seperation of gov and religion check. Im not against repubs, its just that its clear they have some really far right nuts that should never be given power.
Global warming is a farce and being proven more so every day.
And I'll take the tea party ideas over athe proven failures of left wing economics any day.
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Global warming is a farce and being proven more so every day.
And I'll take the tea party ideas over athe proven failures of left wing economics any day.
yuck, you are beyond repair then. Are you a christian? do you believe noahs ark is literally true? The tea party is a conservative christian group. answers please.
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yuck, you are beyond repair then. Are you a christian? do you believe noahs ark is literally true? The tea party is a conservative christian group. answers please.
You have no fucking clue what the TEA party is, you get your information from news snippets.
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yuck, you are beyond repair then. Are you a christian? do you believe noahs ark is literally true? The tea party is a conservative christian group. answers please.
Here you go moron - this is from today.
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html
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Here you go moron - this is from today.
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html
Why do you bother? Global warming is religion to these people. The church of Global Warming with minister Al Gore. Speaking of AL Gore, what happened to him? And what happened to Cap and Trade?
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Global warming is a farce and being proven more so every day.
In 2008, Palin disagreed with you.
So either admit she's a stone cold idiot, or take back what you said about global warming.
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In 2008, Palin disagreed with you.
So either admit she's a stone cold idiot, or take back what you said about global warming.
Go the fuck away
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Why do you bother? Global warming is religion to these people. The church of Global Warming with minister Al Gore. Speaking of AL Gore, what happened to him? And what happened to Cap and Trade?
Here you go moron - this is from today.
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html
LMAO.. did you read the paper, i wont spoil it for you but you enjoy your alarmist propaganda. Since you are not involved in science i geuss you will not actually look at the paper and data.
Just so you know this guy, who wrote this little blurb signed an agreement stating god controls the climate and we can do nothing about it, he also works for the heartland institute, the one that helped phillip morris persuade people second hand smoke was harmless. Also his journal remote sensing is a bad gateway and is known to be pure shit. Why dont you actually investigate the shit you post? or do you just enjoy confirmation bias so much titles are enough for you?
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LMAO.. did you read the paper, i wont spoil it for you but you enjoy your alarmist propaganda. Since you are not involved in science i geuss you will not actually look at the paper and data.
Just so you know this guy, who wrote this little blurb signed an agreement stating god controls the climate and we can do nothing about it, he also works for the heartland institute, the one that helped phillip morris persuade people second hand smoke was harmless. Also his journal remote sensing is a bad gateway and is known to be pure shit. Why dont you actually investigate the shit you post? or do you just enjoy confirmation bias so much titles are enough for you?
Whatever Luke, I have yet to see any of your scientist show concrete proof the globe warming and cooling is influenced by man. More theory that jackass's like yourself want to pass off as fact.
The fact is the earth has been going through cooling and warming cycles for millions of years.
http://www.thegwpf.org/the-climate-record/2802-alan-carlin-a-multidisciplinary-science-based-approach-to-the-economics-of-climate-change.html
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http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2010/05/james_m_taylor_hides_the_decli.php
look at the data, this guy is a flat out lying sack of shit, he has been caught manipulating data before as well.
Nice job 33 picked a real good paper to back your "the liberals and sheep and will believe anything" bit. Fucker left out whole seasons
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Whatever Luke, I have yet to see any of your scientist show concrete proof the globe warming and cooling is influenced by man. More theory that jackass's like yourself want to pass off as fact.
im not the luke, LOL, i was around along time ago and i generally despise that fucking midget homo with the ponytail. I have tons of data, global warming is true, is it being caused solely by humans definitely not, are we contributing based on the acceleration and where it is occuring i would have to say yes.
You just agreed with a paper that is full of lies and your argument is to immediately attack me, it just shows you intellect and academic quality to agree with whatever because it suits you.
before i give you evidence, tell me, would anything change your mind? is so what, what kind of evidence do you want and will it even matter? seriously, why do you disagree with global warming, is it political or scientific.
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im not the luke, LOL, i was around along time ago and i generally despise that fucking midget homo with the ponytail. I have tons of data, global warming is true, is it being caused solely by humans definitely not, are we contributing based on the acceleration and where it is occuring i would have to say yes.
You just agreed with a paper that is full of lies and your argument is to immediately attack me, it just shows you intellect and academic quality to agree with whatever because it suits you.
before i give you evidence, tell me, would anything change your mind? is so what, what kind of evidence do you want and will it even matter? seriously, why do you disagree with global warming, is it political or scientific.
I didn't bother to read the paper, I have read more than enough from people who don't have an agenda or financial stake in man made global warming. The earth goes through warming and cooling periods, not a revelation. Solar activity, jet stream.....
The reason I attack you is I don't like you, your an arrogant ass, who thinks he/she/it is the smartest person in the room. A typical left winger.
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I didn't bother to read the paper, I have read more than enough from people who don't have an agenda or financial stake in man made global warming. The earth goes through warming and cooling periods, not a revelation. Solar activity, jet stream.....
The reason I attack you is I don't like you, your an arrogant ass, who thinks he/she/it is the smartest person in the room. A typical left winger.
this is getbig, this is a debate board. You make judgements based on arguments, while i help countless people on here via pms etc..
i admit im wrong all the time, you cannot apparently=arrogance. There is nothing arrogant about thinking im smarter then people who resort to lies to prove there points, i would say to anyone who didn't call you guys out for supporting lies and shit papers morons. I hope you sense my arrogance when you continue believing your lies. man up and face reality son, the world doesn't work the way you would like and i would prefer people like you stay away from anything meaningful if this is a common theme in your life.
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this is getbig, this is a debate board. You make judgements based on arguments, while i help countless people on here via pms etc..
i admit im wrong all the time, you cannot apparently=arrogance. There is nothing arrogant about thinking im smarter then people who resort to lies to prove there points, i would say to anyone who didn't call you guys out for supporting lies and shit papers morons. I hope you sense my arrogance when you continue believing your lies. man up and face reality son, the world doesn't work the way you would like and i would prefer people like you stay away from anything meaningful if this is a common theme in your life.
Sorry - you claim obama policies have not had their opposite stated effect and result. Either you are too ignorant and uninformed to realize how ludicrous that is or you are flat out lying.
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Sorry - you claim obama policies have not had their opposite stated effect and result. Either you are too ignorant and uninformed to realize how ludicrous that is or you are flat out lying.
nice change of subject
apology for posting a bunk article?
admit you where wrong? here comes the arrogance im claimed to hold.
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nice change of subject
apology for posting a bunk article?
admit you where wrong? here comes the arrogance im claimed to hold.
There is data all over the map over so called "global warming"
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this is getbig, this is a debate board. You make judgements based on arguments, while i help countless people on here via pms etc..
i admit im wrong all the time, you cannot apparently=arrogance. There is nothing arrogant about thinking im smarter then people who resort to lies to prove there points, i would say to anyone who didn't call you guys out for supporting lies and shit papers morons. I hope you sense my arrogance when you continue believing your lies. man up and face reality son, the world doesn't work the way you would like and i would prefer people like you stay away from anything meaningful if this is a common theme in your life.
Another long winded empty rant what a surprise. I would prefer people like you stay in your parents basement, and actually learn something about the real world before you venture out. The common theme in my life is critical thinking, not regurgitating others thoughts.
What could you be possibly be helping people with on Getbig?
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Guys, in fairness he is attacking thier political judgement, he isnt attacking thier ideas. Im a conservative, but conservatives have always sucked when it comes to political strategy. Theyre great on public policy but they suck on politics. Liberals live in an ideological bubble and conserivates live in a political bubble.
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Another long winded empty rant what a surprise. I would prefer people like you stay in your parents basement, and actually learn something about the real world before you venture out. The common theme in my life is critical thinking, not regurgitating others thoughts.
What could you be possibly be helping people with on Getbig?
things im not truly suppose to help people with, ie medical advice, health advice etc. I do it for nothing in return and have had a ton of pms about issues like that. I have compassion for sick people because i have went through illness myself.
you just demonstrated that you do not use critical thinking skills by quoting that paper and basically using it to argue against global warming. That is not critical thinking, you also seem to keep attacking me personally as if i care or it makes your argument stronger.
are you a christian? slightly off topic but relates to critical thinking.
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things im not truly suppose to help people with, ie medical advice, health advice etc. I do it for nothing in return and have had a ton of pms about issues like that. I have compassion for sick people because i have went through illness myself.
you just demonstrated that you do not use critical thinking skills by quoting that paper and basically using it to argue against global warming. That is not critical thinking, you also seem to keep attacking me personally as if i care or it makes your argument stronger.
are you a christian? slightly off topic but relates to critical thinking.
Are you a doctor?
I posted a link, you can read the paper, I quoted nothing from said paper. Yes I attack you, and I will continue to, well because like I said I don't like you.
What exactly does being Christian have to do with anything?
Necrosis, interesting choice for a handle, I going to assume that it started in your cranium.
Now I know who you are, your MooseJay
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Are you a doctor?
I posted a link, you can read the paper, I quoted nothing from said paper. Yes I attack you, and I will continue to, well because like I said I don't like you.
What exactly does being Christian have to do with anything?
Necrosis, interesting choice for a handle, I going to assume that it started in your cranium
cant answer the question? can you? it shows that you believe men can walk on water, that snakes can talk and that noah was 600 years old, it refutes your claim to living your life by rational thought as faith is irrational by definition or put another way belief without evidence.
you answer my question ill answer yours
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cant answer the question? can you? it shows that you believe men can walk on water, that snakes can talk and that noah was 600 years old, it refutes your claim to living your life by rational thought as faith is irrational by definition or put another way belief without evidence.
you answer my question ill answer yours
You have no point as usual, you seem to think that if someone has faith, everything they say is automatically illogical.
Obama claims to be Christian, but you think he is highly intelligent, how can that be?
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are you a christian? slightly off topic but relates to critical thinking.
WTF does being a Christian have to do with critical thinking?
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WTF does being a Christian have to do with critical thinking?
To moosegay it seems to be a real issue.
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WTF does being a Christian have to do with critical thinking?
Obama, Al Gore, Clinton all claim to be Christians, so I really dont know this fools' point.
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You have no point as usual, you seem to think that if someone has faith, everything they say is automatically illogical.
Obama claims to be Christian, but you think he is highly intelligent, how can that be?
i did not say that, again reading comprehension is lacking here. You said you live your life by critical thinking, that you dont regurgitate thoughts yet you are a christian.
alot of intelligent people are religious, they just dont live there life by rational analysis, they entertain an idea of compartmentalization.
i think my point is quite clear 33, pretty obvious is it not?
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i did not say that, again reading comprehension is lacking here. You said you live your life by critical thinking, that you dont regurgitate thoughts yet you are a christian.
alot of intelligent people are religious, they just dont live there life by rational analysis, they entertain an idea of compartmentalization.
i think my point is quite clear 33, pretty obvious is it not?
Are you a TA gimmick ?
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Are you a TA gimmick ?
I'm thinking a KCBaller gimmick. Notice the inappropriately used small "i"? Very coincidental?
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i did not say that, again reading comprehension is lacking here. You said you live your life by critical thinking, that you dont regurgitate thoughts yet you are a christian.
alot of intelligent people are religious, they just dont live there life by rational analysis, they entertain an idea of compartmentalization.
i think my point is quite clear 33, pretty obvious is it not?
Ok moosejay, I was wondering what happened to your dumbass, guess you reinvented yourself yet again. Same talking in circles, with no point then the obligatory pat yourself on the back for a job well done ::)
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I'm thinking a KCBaller gimmick. Notice the inappropriately used small "i"? Very coincidental?
Has to be moosejay, notice he picked the name necrosis, kinda of coincidence that he was posting on here about the very thing happening to his hand/arm then he disappeared for a while.
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Rand Paul Calls McCain “A Troll”
(Politico) — The “Lord of the Rings” metaphors crept into the debt-limit fight on Thursday, as tea-party heroes fired back at Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) who mocked members of the conservative grassroots movement as “tea-party hobbits.”
“I’d rather be a hobbit than a troll,” freshman Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said on a conference call when asked by POLITICO about McCain’s remarks. “I think in reading the books, the hobbits were the heroes. They overcame great obstacles, and I think I’d rather be a hobbit than a troll.”
Quoting from a Wall Street Journal editorial, McCain said “tea-party hobbits” were mistaken to think that if Republicans refuse to raise the debt ceiling and the government defaults on its loans, President Barack Obama would get the blame.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60151.html
A true fiscal conservative lays it out flat for the liberal McCain.
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Has to be moosejay, notice he picked the name necrosis, kinda of coincidence that he was posting on here about the very thing happening to his hand/arm then he disappeared for a while.
look at when i joined you meatbag lol, i was around with kiwiol and sarcasm where posting a shit ton, to top it off i have modded the nutrition board for quite a while.
my previous username was usmokepole titty boy.
proving you liars wrong=talking in circles. Why dont you go support another fraudulent study then claim to have read enough to know its a hoax, you are a clown.
lets support the tea party who want to default so they can fuck the economy and blame it on obama hoping they gain from untold suffering, yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhh, global warming is a hoax see this paper showing made up data by a moron who believes in intelligent design.
keep circle jerking each other while your country goes down the shitter, i just fucking hope they dont fuck up the world because of it.
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look at when i joined you meatbag lol, i was around with kiwiol and sarcasm where posting a shit ton, to top it off i have modded the nutrition board for quite a while.
my previous username was usmokepole titty boy.
proving you liars wrong=talking in circles. Why dont you go support another fraudulent study then claim to have read enough to know its a hoax, you are a clown.
lets support the tea party who want to default so they can fuck the economy and blame it on obama hoping they gain from untold suffering, yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhh, global warming is a hoax see this paper showing made up data by a moron who believes in intelligent design.
keep circle jerking each other while your country goes down the shitter, i just fucking hope they dont fuck up the world because of it.
Never heard of you and I was around then, too.
"proving you liars wrong=talking in circles." You do nothing of the sort. You make shitty straw man arguments and then bounce from the thread when refuted on them. Another shitty troll that can't substantiate any of the trash he says so he chooses to bomb us with dissertations devoid of any substance.
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look at when i joined you meatbag lol, i was around with kiwiol and sarcasm where posting a shit ton, to top it off i have modded the nutrition board for quite a while.
my previous username was usmokepole titty boy.
proving you liars wrong=talking in circles. Why dont you go support another fraudulent study then claim to have read enough to know its a hoax, you are a clown.
lets support the tea party who want to default so they can fuck the economy and blame it on obama hoping they gain from untold suffering, yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhh, global warming is a hoax see this paper showing made up data by a moron who believes in intelligent design.
keep circle jerking each other while your country goes down the shitter, i just fucking hope they dont fuck up the world because of it.
Must have hit a nerve ay moose? Titty boy? Is that supposed to be some sort of insult?
Just because you're to stupid to see the AL Gores of the world are trying to get rich off naturally occurring weather cycles is not my concern. You have zero, none, nada proof that man made "climate change" exists, your gullability is astounding.
The TEA party expects the federal government to follow the constitution on the United States. If the government had done that in the first place the US wouldn't be fucked up like it is. The only untold suffering that is going to occur is from the social parasites who feed of the labor of others.
Intelligent design again? Really? Is it really anymore implausible than the big bang?
Yeah the people who expect constitutional government are the one causing the country to go down the shitter. It's the fuck head progressives who can't be bothered to take a look at history and see every time your retarded theory's are used it causes chaos. Yeah lets create yet another generation of assclowns dependent on the government tit.
Oh and I'm really impressed you mod'd a board on getbig, quite and accomplishment ::)
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keep circle jerking each other while your country goes down the shitter, i just fucking hope they dont fuck up the world because of it.
What a surprise. Yet another Canandian fucktard telling us how were going down the shitter - all the while crying and apparently even modding an American board. ::)
Must suck coming from a country that has never had anything significant to offer the world.
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Go the fuck away
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best pic of the week !
thanks for posting.
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Must have hit a nerve ay moose? Titty boy? Is that supposed to be some sort of insult?
Just because you're to stupid to see the AL Gores of the world are trying to get rich off naturally occurring weather cycles is not my concern. You have zero, none, nada proof that man made "climate change" exists, your gullability is astounding.
The TEA party expects the federal government to follow the constitution on the United States. If the government had done that in the first place the US wouldn't be fucked up like it is. The only untold suffering that is going to occur is from the social parasites who feed of the labor of others.
Intelligent design again? Really? Is it really anymore implausible than the big bang?
Yeah the people who expect constitutional government are the one causing the country to go down the shitter. It's the fuck head progressives who can't be bothered to take a look at history and see every time your retarded theory's are used it causes chaos. Yeah lets create yet another generation of assclowns dependent on the government tit.
Oh and I'm really impressed you mod'd a board on getbig, quite and accomplishment ::)
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there is a ton of data suggesting man made climate effects, are you a michelle bachman. Come to think of it im done with you , you just stated that intelligent design is as likely as the big bang, LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..... ........................ ................... YA YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE BY CRITICAL THINKING HAHAHAAH, be quiet and let the smart people take care of the world, you keep denying reality and evidence. Rational thinker my ass.
how is the big bang as likely as intelligent design, this should be good.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/29/opinion/krugman-the-centrist-cop-out.html?_r=1&hp
The answer, it turns out, is yes. And this is no laughing matter: The cult of balance has played an important role in bringing us to the edge of disaster. For when reporting on political disputes always implies that both sides are to blame, there is no penalty for extremism. Voters won’t punish you for outrageous behavior if all they ever hear is that both sides are at fault.
Let me give you an example of what I’m talking about. As you may know, President Obama initially tried to strike a “Grand Bargain” with Republicans over taxes and spending. To do so, he not only chose not to make an issue of G.O.P. extortion, he offered extraordinary concessions on Democratic priorities: an increase in the age of Medicare eligibility, sharp spending cuts and only small revenue increases. As The Times’s Nate Silver pointed out, Mr. Obama effectively staked out a position that was not only far to the right of the average voter’s preferences, it was if anything a bit to the right of the average Republican voter’s preferences.
But Republicans rejected the deal. So what was the headline on an Associated Press analysis of that breakdown in negotiations? “Obama, Republicans Trapped by Inflexible Rhetoric.” A Democratic president who bends over backward to accommodate the other side — or, if you prefer, who leans so far to the right that he’s in danger of falling over — is treated as being just the same as his utterly intransigent opponents. Balance!
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LMFAO!!!!!
Krugman!!!!
Ha ha ha ha - he has as much credibility as obama getting the peace prize along w gore and arafat.
Keep it up, your posts get more comical by the hour.
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Krugman...thats who're ur quoting...silly lib douchbag..we don't care. Fuck off back to Canada.
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Besides Don Cherry and Bobby Orr...u have done nothing for us.
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What a surprise. Yet another Canandian fucktard telling us how were going down the shitter - all the while crying and apparently even modding an American board. ::)
Must suck coming from a country that has never had anything significant to offer the world.
im interested in politics and the issues in the states threaten the world right now. I moderate several boards, some canadian. Canada is rated higher then the states in all measures of desire and comfort. America isn't the best country to live in as an average joe so many countries are better wrt social policies, quality of life, economy and health care.
you realize that alot of significant medical research has come from canada right? the phone as well. America is declining its obvious, attacking another country wont make it any better. calm down sugar.
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Besides Don Cherry and Bobby Orr...u have done nothing for us.
LOL you dont have any idea about canada apparently, the medical innovations we have given the world are enough to make you look like a moron son.
calm down there, you drink your six pack be fat and lazy and intolerant of others. The world is beginning to pass you by and ensuring you ahve the biggest military just wont do anymore. To bad
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Ur gay aren't u....in any event how's that 50% tax rate working for u. "desire and comfort: by what standard. Most of ur population lives within 250 miles of our border.
Poor sad lib....whats it like to be so damm naive.
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Let me give you an example of what I’m talking about. As you may know, President Obama initially tried to strike a “Grand Bargain” with Republicans over taxes and spending. To do so, he not only chose not to make an issue of G.O.P. extortion, he offered extraordinary concessions on Democratic priorities: an increase in the age of Medicare eligibility, sharp spending cuts and only small revenue increases. As The Times’s Nate Silver pointed out, Mr. Obama effectively staked out a position that was not only far to the right of the average voter’s preferences, it was if anything a bit to the right of the average Republican voter’s preferences.
Ha, ha, good one. Obama considers running our national debt up from $14.5 trillion to $20 trillion in the next five years a cut because it didn't go to $21 trillion. How about this radical concept: we spend less next year than this year, and over the course of the next five years we balance the budget. What a minute, that sounds like cut, cap, and balance.
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Ur gay aren't u....in any event how's that 50% tax rate working for u. "desire and comfort: by what standard. Most of ur population lives within 250 miles of our border.
Poor sad lib....whats it like to be so damm naive.
what does that have to do with anything, im not gay however, but what does the border have to do with anything at all?
our economy is doing better, our crime rates are lower, our healthcare is better for the common man, it is a more pleasant place to live in almost everyway.
the border issue is because the further north you go the more difficult it is to live tit, why would anyone live in the arctic?
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Ha, ha, good one. Obama considers running our national debt up from $14.5 trillion to $20 trillion in the next five years a cut because it didn't go to $21 trillion. How about this radical concept: we spend less next year than this year, and over the course of the next five years we balance the budget. What a minute, that sounds like cut, cap, and balance.
what plan are you speaking of specifically?
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Kazan tell me how the big bang and intelligent design are equally plausible oh critical thinker.
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He has no plan. The current trajectory is the road to ruin.
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Kazan tell me how the big bang and intelligent design are equally plausible oh critical thinker.
bump for mister rational. If you review political theory as well as global warming and cosmology then i would vote for you.
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what does that have to do with anything, im not gay however, but what does the border have to do with anything at all?
our economy is doing better, our crime rates are lower, our healthcare is better for the common man, it is a more pleasant place to live in almost everyway.
the border issue is because the further north you go the more difficult it is to live tit, why would anyone live in the arctic?
50% tax rate and u have 34 million people in ur country....our countries aren't even remotely the same. Christ most of the country is uninhabitable.
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50% tax rate and u have 34 million people in ur country....our countries aren't even remotely the same. Christ most of the country is uninhabitable.
ya ours isnt overrun by looney christians and has low crime rates, universal healthcare and lower rates of mobidity and mortality.
the vast majority of the country is inhabitable, people choose not to however, NWT, yukon and nunavut have people living there with similar climates to alaska, they are quite beautiful actually.
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ya ours isnt overrun by looney christians and has low crime rates, universal healthcare and lower rates of mobidity and mortality.
the vast majority of the country is inhabitable, people choose not to however, NWT, yukon and nunavut have people living there with similar climates to alaska, they are quite beautiful actually.
thank you for joining in on the fun conversations here.
you will see that we have several 'interesting' people with their views and opinions.
It shows you the level of debate when one poster, who disagrees with you, starts by asking if you are gay...
not that there is anything wrong with it.
welcome to the sandbox; bring your own pail and shovel and enjoy play time here!
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im interested in politics and the issues in the states threaten the world right now. I moderate several boards, some canadian. Canada is rated higher then the states in all measures of desire and comfort. America isn't the best country to live in as an average joe so many countries are better wrt social policies, quality of life, economy and health care.
you realize that alot of significant medical research has come from canada right? the phone as well. America is declining its obvious, attacking another country wont make it any better. calm down sugar.
The phone! HHAHAAHAHAHAHHA...RETARD .
Bell was born in Scotland and invented the phone HERE in AMERICA.
You losers have never offered the world anything. You have nothing of any consequence to offer anybody.
And sadly, that's why you have to come here and cry about our country like a pathetic little bitch.
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The phone! HHAHAAHAHAHAHHA...RETARD .
Bell was born in Scotland and invented the phone HERE in AMERICA.
You losers have never offered the world anything. You have nothing of any consequence to offer anybody.
And sadly, that's why you have to come here and cry about our country like a pathetic little bitch.
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THIS!!!!
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im interested in politics and the issues in the states threaten the world right now. I moderate several boards, some canadian. Canada is rated higher then the states in all measures of desire and comfort. America isn't the best country to live in as an average joe so many countries are better wrt social policies, quality of life, economy and health care.
Then why do we lead the world in immigration? And why do so many Canadians move to the U.S.?
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And why do so many Canadians move to the U.S.?
because we have Key West and southern California.
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Besides Don Cherry and Bobby Orr...u have done nothing for us.
Don't sell Canada short. They have also given us Jim Carey, Mike Myers, and Michael Buble. :)
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The phone! HHAHAAHAHAHAHHA...RETARD .
Bell was born in Scotland and invented the phone HERE in AMERICA.
You losers have never offered the world anything. You have nothing of any consequence to offer anybody.
And sadly, that's why you have to come here and cry about our country like a pathetic little bitch.
Looks like he failed Google 101.
Protip, Necrosis: everything you read on the internet isn't true.
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Looks like he failed Google 101.
Protip, Necrosis: everything you read on the internet isn't true.
I don't google anything usually hence the mistake, im not worried about being wrong, it happens, i was confusing it with the transatlantic messages, i was just spouting off some random stuff.
America has alot to offer the world and perhaps the best oppurtunity to make it big, well it does no doubt about it.
Canada still has all of the benefits i've listed.
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see how i immediately admit to any fault or when i get something wrong? crazy huh, meanwhile you got kids in here posting obviously false info and when called out on it they wont even respond.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201107250014
like this video of limbaugh thats a straight out and out lie, he has to know he is lying.
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The phone! HHAHAAHAHAHAHHA...RETARD .
Bell was born in Scotland and invented the phone HERE in AMERICA.
You losers have never offered the world anything. You have nothing of any consequence to offer anybody.
And sadly, that's why you have to come here and cry about our country like a pathetic little bitch.
calm down it;s not that serious, i honestly feel like you tears rolling down your face as you type this.
ya your right, america is adored by the world over. People all across the world praise you for all that you have given to the world, you are a loved nation.
America has it's benefits like i said, but if we are talking about the middle class or majority i believe other nations are better suited for these people.
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you havent admitted you were wrong in any of these threads...
whys that? ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=390016.25#lastPost
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=390174.0
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you havent admitted you were wrong in any of these threads...
whys that? ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=390016.25#lastPost
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=390174.0
i responded to both threads, the article i posted was my argument, not sure how you don't get that.
in the other thread you are just wrong.
If you reply i would prefer you keep the arguments in one thread, ie here. The fact that you said to take a basic stats course in your argument/meltdown indicates that is perhaps all you have taken. I was also in the top three for all 4 statistics courses in my department/faculty in my university. I understand that basic courses repeat the mantra correlation is not causation.
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you havent admitted you were wrong in any of these threads...
whys that? ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=390016.25#lastPost
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=390174.0
for example
'Causation' has been popularly used to express the condition of association, when applied to natural phenomena. There is no philosophical basis for giving it a wider meaning than partial or absolute association. In no case has it been proved that there is an inherent necessity in the laws of nature. Causation is correlation... [P]erfect correlation, when based upon sufficient experience, is causation in the scientific sense.
— Henry E. Niles
'Correlation, Causation and Wright's Theory of "Path Coefficients"', Genetics (7 May 1922), 7, 259-61.
Science quotes on: | Association (5) | Causation (4) | Law Of Nature (20)
now i understand for experimental purposes the qualities of causation and correlation must be seperated, i also understand that degree of correlation make it less likely there is a causative role, however, as Dr. Niles put so long ago causation is a perfect correlation, causation is a form of correlation, it is a 100% correlation, that when this occurs ie the cause, the next thing will occur, the effect. However, in science even this chain of logic is being disputed as reverse causation is theoretically possible and quantum mechanics often disobey this law that may not even be real, its just our experience of the phenomenon.