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Title: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 02, 2011, 12:45:51 PM
Am I the only one who feels incline barbell presses mainly in the front delts??
I find the dumbell version VASTLY superior
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 02, 2011, 12:50:37 PM
Am I the only one who feels incline barbell presses mainly in the front delts??
I find the dumbell version VASTLY superior
x2 plus I killed my cuff doing barbell inclines..
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: Moen on August 02, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
Everyone feels it more in their pecs using dumbells. But it's less of an ego exercise so ...
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: JasonH on August 02, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
I'm the same - I like doing the barbell because you can hoist a lot of weight but you're kind of locked in place with the hand width so I tend not to feel it at the top of the movement like I should - dumbells you can curve them around in an arc through the range of motion and finish off with the bells touching giving a greater squeeze at the top.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: BiGHer on August 02, 2011, 12:53:10 PM
Try barbell inclines on a smith machine.  You'll be shocked at how much this takes off tension from your front delts/rotator cuffs and you can focus on the chest.  Also, lessoning the incline helps too.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: Nails on August 02, 2011, 12:57:16 PM
I just did Smith inclines last night and shoulders felt most of the weight, i can only feel the upper pecs work for me if i do incline flys
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: tlc on August 02, 2011, 12:58:10 PM
DB's all the way. Never felt comfortable with a bar, incline or otherwise.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 02, 2011, 01:01:49 PM
Everyone feels it more in their pecs using dumbells. But it's less of an ego exercise so ...

I think your right i rarely do barbell presses at first i sued to and be really weak on dumbells but one i mastered dumbells I never looked back
but every so often i try a barbell movement and feel it mostly in the delts and joints
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: BILL ANVIL on August 02, 2011, 01:03:30 PM
F#cken eh, if you have long dangly arms barbell will mess your rotators up good.

DB is vastly superior and you can get a better squeeze at the top of the movement. Leave the barbell for the short stocky guys.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: BiGHer on August 02, 2011, 01:05:05 PM
F#cken eh, if you have long dangly arms barbell will mess your rotators up good.

DB is vastly superior and you can get a better squeeze at the top of the movement. Leave the barbell for the short stocky guys.

I'd agree with the above too.  A persons structure can always have an effect on where you feel a certain exercise.  Also, lightening the weight always helps too with feeling the muscle more, but most guys don't want to do that.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 02, 2011, 01:05:42 PM
Am I the only one who feels incline barbell presses mainly in the front delts??
I find the dumbell version VASTLY superior

I agree.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: Max B on August 02, 2011, 01:05:57 PM
Im with you guys on dumbells, especially for incline but trust me try incline smith presses, with the seat at setting 2 just above being flat.... go down to just below your neck... very upper chest i should say and just work with moderate to heavy weight and really feel the stretch... if the shoudlers are an issues adjust hand placement accordingly, it does work wonders and is a good switch up from dumbell presses.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: Parker on August 02, 2011, 01:08:04 PM
Am I the only one who feels incline barbell presses mainly in the front delts??
I find the dumbell version VASTLY superior
depends on how hight the angle...for instance, in Phil Heath's first DVD, he had the angle extremely high--no wonder his chest is the way it is...when you have it on that low angle---the one above being flat (on my Wieder Bench), you are hitting all upper pecs ( it takes the delt work out)...
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: BILL ANVIL on August 02, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
I'd agree with the above too.  A persons structure can always have an effect on where you feel a certain exercise.  Also, lightening the weight always helps too with feeling the muscle more, but most guys don't want to do that.

Totally, lightening the weight is really the only way you can do exercises that your body wasn't meant for properly without getting hurt. If it feels awkward even after years of doing it, chances are your never gonna get used to it and should either find a substitute or drop the ego, lighten it up and feel the stretch.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 02, 2011, 01:23:53 PM
funny thing is barbells get all the praise in magazines vids etc

i know a lot of guys love barbells because
1. they want to be able to answer the how much can you bench question
2. its easy to load up the bar and get your friend to help from rep one.

years back i read an article by chick where he said the bench was overrated and i laughed
but he was right totally right... soon as i started using dumbells  and matered them i could see that

Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: GroinkTropin on August 02, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
Smith incline feels very funky to me. I hate it. Barbell is only a little better, and I have to pre-exhaust chest to feel it at all.

Going to try smith flat bench neck presses tomorrow, for upper chest. Routine will be

Cable crossovers
Incline flyes
Flat smith neck presses
Scott dips (hands turned out)
Possibly some decline flyes, light weights

Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 02, 2011, 01:25:23 PM
Totally, lightening the weight is really the only way you can do exercises that your body wasn't meant for properly without getting hurt. If it feels awkward even after years of doing it, chances are your never gonna get used to it and should either find a substitute or drop the ego, lighten it up and feel the stretch.
today i did incline barbell presses
felt it in my shoulders from the warm up set with 135
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2011, 01:29:04 PM
the older i get, the harder it is to train incline or flat barbell.  dumbbells are just better on the AC and RC.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 02, 2011, 01:30:52 PM
the older i get, the harder it is to train incline or flat barbell.  dumbbells are just better on the AC and RC.
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Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: coltrane on August 02, 2011, 01:58:45 PM
Meso:

Perhaps try altering the the bench to less of an incline.  My barbell incline bench you can put a 25 pounder under the base to kick it back a bit, lessening the incline.  Helps me feel it more in the pecs.

I do both barbell and dumbbell.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 02, 2011, 02:03:29 PM
Meso:

Perhaps try altering the the bench to less of an incline.  My barbell incline bench you can put a 25 pounder under the base to kick it back a bit, lessening the incline.  Helps me feel it more in the pecs.

I do both barbell and dumbbell.
the incline barbell bench in my gym is fixed.....
cant alter it...
but even bench press i feel mosthly in the front delts
which is better in your opinion
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: coltrane on August 02, 2011, 02:08:47 PM
I stick to incline barbell and db's.  Then flat dumbbells.  Rarely will I do a flat bench barbell, and if i do, it's only after a few other exercises.  Flat barbell always hurts my rotator. 

I've been liking cable crossovers lately..  pausing at the squeeze etc.. drop sets too.  I feel it gets the inside pecs a lot.

Off for my back workout!
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: Nails on August 02, 2011, 03:47:41 PM
howabout a ONE arm Bench Press  ??? ???

Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: Cableguy on August 02, 2011, 04:07:21 PM
x2 plus I killed my cuff doing barbell inclines..

Yup, those and flat benches wrecked my cuffs. Been doing incline DB's for years. More effective for me and hurt less.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: tlc on August 02, 2011, 04:16:09 PM
2. its easy to load up the bar and get your friend to help from rep one.


Only disadvantage to db's - getting the bastards up for that first rep. And setting them down again quietly.  ;D
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: cephissus on August 02, 2011, 04:18:53 PM
i don't understand all the guys who say barbell pressing is dangerous or whatever like... how do you know you're not just doing it improperly?

i mean there are guys who have bench pressed over a thousand pounds, and in their training have been benching for years and years.  there is a whole sport built around bench pressing.  are we supposed to believe these men are somehow exceptional?

for those who believe bench press is inherently more dangerous than the average exercise, what is your reasoning?
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: Ursus on August 02, 2011, 04:23:19 PM
I do both.

My chest exercises are Flat BB, Incline BB, Incline DB, Weighted Dips then triceps!
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: SF1900 on August 02, 2011, 04:27:49 PM
Or just preexhaust the chest with flyes.  :D :D
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on August 02, 2011, 04:32:31 PM
Everyone feels it more in their pecs using dumbells. But it's less of an ego exercise so ...
Dumbbells in my gym go upto 200lbs, and yes some guys try rep out on incline chest or flat chest
Silly silly ego
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: BILL ANVIL on August 02, 2011, 04:33:40 PM
i don't understand all the guys who say barbell pressing is dangerous or whatever like... how do you know you're not just doing it improperly?

i mean there are guys who have bench pressed over a thousand pounds, and in their training have been benching for years and years.  there is a whole sport built around bench pressing.  are we supposed to believe these men are somehow exceptional?

for those who believe bench press is inherently more dangerous than the average exercise, what is your reasoning?

You must of missed the part where I briefly explained genetic structural advantages and disadvantages.
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: cephissus on August 02, 2011, 04:34:43 PM
Guess so.  Can you say, specifically, what the problem is?
Title: Re: Incline barbell presses vs incline dumbell presses
Post by: The_Punisher on August 02, 2011, 04:44:32 PM
x2 plus I killed my cuff doing barbell inclines..

it depends on the incline bench for me. some Gym have a low incline bench and I hate that shit........I just never go heavy and don't need to when doing incline, whether it's dumbbells or barbells