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Title: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: musclecenter on August 03, 2011, 03:07:51 AM
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Schmoe Buster on August 03, 2011, 03:15:27 AM
Phil the Heath ::)
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: jaejonna on August 03, 2011, 07:27:30 AM
Oh brother, thanks for telling us how to T-bag ...I mean T-bar.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: hobo on August 03, 2011, 11:58:42 AM
only pro not talking like a retard...
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 03, 2011, 12:00:39 PM
only pro not talking like a retard...


Yes Phil is very personable intelligent and articulate ... Mr o material all the way


But is it right for anyone over the age of 14 to wear their baseball cap backwards
 :-\
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: PJim on August 03, 2011, 12:02:57 PM
He's actually wrong. Standing slightly more upright puts the lats in a mechanically stronger position.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Nails on August 03, 2011, 12:03:40 PM
i like how bodybuilders say one thing, and then do totally the opposite when they workout, he said i do almost a 90 deg bent over, he is practically standing while rowing
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: PJim on August 03, 2011, 12:06:40 PM
i like how bodybuilders say on thing, and then do totally the opposite when they workout, he said i do almost a 90 deg bent over, he is practically standing while rowing

Ha exactly, the way he demonstrates it is fine, the way he recommends doing  it; not so much.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Parker on August 03, 2011, 12:12:37 PM
i like how bodybuilders say one thing, and then do totally the opposite when they workout, he said i do almost a 90 deg bent over, he is practically standing while rowing
You need to listen, he said 45 Degree, not 90, and he is bent over at possibly that angle.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: PJim on August 03, 2011, 12:15:09 PM
You need to listen, he said 45 Degree, not 90, and he is bent over at possibly that angle.

He says "You want to be more than 45 degrees, more like 60 to almost 90"....
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Tito24 on August 03, 2011, 12:20:01 PM
"the gift" oh brother. who is making up these foolish nicknames?
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: PJim on August 03, 2011, 12:21:49 PM
"the gift" oh brother. who is making up these foolish nicknames?


He really has got to stop introducing himself as "Phil Heath; The Gift", it's seriously lame.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: mass243 on August 03, 2011, 12:22:23 PM
"the gift" oh brother. who is making up these foolish nicknames?

Ask the one who ever first called Down Hill "big"  :-\           :-X
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Tito24 on August 03, 2011, 12:27:14 PM
haha it tells a lot about this stupid industry
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: kevcat on August 03, 2011, 12:34:25 PM
he also mentions stopping for a 2 second squeeze at the top, which he doesnt do ::)
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: supernick on August 03, 2011, 12:40:03 PM
great arms
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Tito24 on August 03, 2011, 12:41:35 PM
great synthol arms
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: supernick on August 03, 2011, 12:47:56 PM
great synthol arms
still great
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Fortress on August 03, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
"The Gift"  ::)

Worst nickname EVER. I'd be embarrassed.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Steelrabbitt on August 03, 2011, 01:32:14 PM
Forearms look huge, he's got that scary black guy with light eyes thing going on.


Jay " The Rabbit"
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 03, 2011, 01:41:12 PM
All staged, once the camera is off he performs those rows his way, and slams the weight once he's finished
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Parker on August 03, 2011, 01:45:50 PM
He says "You want to be more than 45 degrees, more like 60 to almost 90"....
"Which is it Phil? How many notches?"
he also mentions stopping for a 2 second squeeze at the top, which he doesnt do ::)
2 secs in Phil heath land is different from 2 seconds in the land of mere mortals.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: JasonH on August 03, 2011, 01:51:48 PM
He says "You want to be more than 45 degrees, more like 60 to almost 90"....

Translation - it doesn't really matter what angle, the drugs are what do the work.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Parker on August 03, 2011, 01:54:24 PM
Actually, I 've seen a transition in Phil---from doing back exercises in the smith machine  to incorporated more free weight movements...Seems like he is getting more serious
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: GroinkTropin on August 03, 2011, 01:58:10 PM
He's actually wrong. Standing slightly more upright puts the lats in a mechanically stronger position.

Funny I do not consider it much of a lat movement...more inner/upper back.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: apply85 on August 03, 2011, 02:03:42 PM
Do people do this exercise outside of videos? I feel like bodybuilders do it for the camera because they can put so much weight nd make themselves look strong, but stick to machines with lower weight when the camera is off.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 03, 2011, 02:13:22 PM
Actually, I 've seen a transition in Phil---from doing back exercises in the smith machine  to incorporated more free weight movements...Seems like he is getting more serious

How is t-bar more "free weight" than smith? Think about it.  :D

If that's what you meant?
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Parker on August 03, 2011, 02:17:29 PM
Do people do this exercise outside of videos? I feel like bodybuilders do it for the camera because they can put so much weight nd make themselves look strong, but stick to machines with lower weight when the camera is off.
Glass had Flex doing it---of course that was back in 93, Ronnie Coleman did them---and I think most of the Texas Crew---it's a taxing, yet fun movement...hence why many of today's bbers don't it
How is t-bar more "free weight" than smith? Think about it.  :D

If that's what you meant?
Well, the old skool way---and the way I perform them in HS, was take a barbell, remove weight off one end and put the end in a corner. Have a T-bar or handle attachment at the end with the weight. So, it's essentially a free weight movement...
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 03, 2011, 02:24:27 PM

Well, the old skool way---and the way I perform them in HS, was take a barbell, remove weight off one end and put the end in a corner. Have a T-bar or handle attachment at the end with the weight. So, it's essentially a free weight movement...

You are still locked in a groove. The bar can only travel one way. Sure, with a loose barbell it can move side to side also, but you're not supposed to do that. :D T-bar row machine compared to smith row, I see no difference really, both locked movements, though I do think t-bar is generally better due to the bar travel path.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 03, 2011, 02:27:09 PM
Well, the old skool way---and the way I perform them in HS, was take a barbell, remove weight off one end and put the end in a corner. Have a T-bar or handle attachment at the end with the weight. So, it's essentially a free weight movement...

The bar is fixed to the ground so the weight is not free.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Parker on August 03, 2011, 02:32:50 PM
The bar is fixed to the ground so the weight is not free.
>:(  >:(

true...
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 03, 2011, 02:37:08 PM
>:(  >:(

true...

Nah, get over it, Parker  :D

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Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Parker on August 03, 2011, 03:01:34 PM
Nah, get over it, Parker  :D

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Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: tbombz on August 03, 2011, 03:11:11 PM
He's actually wrong. Standing slightly more upright puts the lats in a mechanically stronger position.
ya. bending over past 45 degrees shift the emphasis to upper back/ rear delts/ traps/ rohmboids....      standing more upright allows the lats to contract optimally.  its a different exercise completly when you bend over so much.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Parker on August 03, 2011, 03:21:35 PM
ya. bending over past 45 degrees shift the emphasis to upper back/ rear delts/ traps/ rohmboids....      standing more upright allows the lats to contract optimally.  its a different exercise completly when you bend over so much.
At the gym where I used to go, they had one where you HAD to bend over, as there was pad and you pick up the weight, and the angle forced you to stay on the pad---and I felt it in my lats
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: tbombz on August 03, 2011, 03:30:02 PM
At the gym where I used to go, they had one where you HAD to bend over, as there was pad and you pick up the weight, and the angle forced you to stay on the pad---and I felt it in my lats
well most guys confuse upper back with lats ad rarely ever get a decent lat contraction. you might be one of them. bending over all the way you will definitely feel it in your upper back.


the lats connect down near you ass in the middle of the back, and go up under your arm pits.  all the suff on your posterior between your shoulders aint lats, thats rohmbois, traps, rear delts, etc.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: LATS on August 03, 2011, 03:58:32 PM
 the t bar is not a free weight movement.. it is fixed at it hinge.. it is no different than a hammer machine or smith.. it is a machine..
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: Emmortal on August 03, 2011, 05:04:52 PM
"Which is it Phil? How many notches?" 2 secs in Phil heath land is different from 2 seconds in the land of mere mortals.

The laws of space time continium do not apply to the entity known as The Phil Heath.
Title: Re: Phil Heath's update (doing T-bar rows)
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 03, 2011, 05:19:33 PM
Insulina rows.