I love how he puts these parasites in their place.asalamalakum
I love how he puts these parasites in their place.
meDo you like how he puts parasites into the Judgeship?
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Can you imagine this guy debating obama?
goodness gracious they could put it on pay per view and make billions...LOL
I've seen three youtube videos of this guy, and a couple pieces on TV news. Everything I've seen, I completely support.
I'm going to look this guy up, he's got to be wrong on something...
his weight.
I guess he is losing weight and has a trainer/dietician. He also suffers from bad asthma, which explains he latest issues. I hope he runs. He'll has some explaining to do with some connections to shady characters in Jersey but nothing on the level of the current shitbag n chief. Christe/Rubio 12'.
Who, this guy?
(http://homepreneurship.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/tony_soprano.jpg)
;D
I said before in some thread..it would be O'dumbass against Anthony S in a presidential debate. Jaws and any episode of the Soprano's are the only two shows that I'll watch regardless of how many times I've seen them.You oughta watch Deadwood. Nothing compares.
You oughta watch Deadwood. Nothing compares.
Love the Sopranos. that's how I grew up - real men, not panzies, pussies, metrosexual dweebs and dorks.
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This leads to rot and more welfare jobs and eventual megarot in the form of unions and unions lawyers working with cronies.
They all work at welfare jobs.Very well saiid...the problem now in America is that the same people that put us in this mess; the lazy, the ones who took out all the bad loans, and goverment workers now want further assistance..Americans would love socialism because its easy....democrats up top have infiltrated the minds of these people for the sake of winning elections and made them believe they are prvaleged for everything..I mean, there are gov jobs that pay from health insurance to ffunded retirements..these same loonies who get these amazing benefits want more and keep blaming the rich..the bitch who won the Massachusetts seat wants to spill the blood of the rich...I don't understand how people can listenm to her..obama has taken advantage of a lot of gulliible voters to make all this happen
They think that the propsperity capitalism gives is blood to suck and that they deserve something simply for showing up and exisitng.
The more we saddle producers with blood sucking the poorer we all get despite technological progress made mostly by non government private research.
If we simply said no debt spending we would all feel the crushing taxes needed to spend this much on cronies and welfare jobs.
Since the fed exists and we can run dificits, a politicians dream come true, they can overspend and the inflate with fed and push off the inevitable problem until they retire and leave the hot potato to the next guy.
This is all democrats do.
Peter drucker showed in his books how the modern managed corporation is really the only way known to produce anything.
Marx couldnt see this since they didn't exist until after marx.
They key distinction to make is that not all jobs are productive jobs.
Government jobs are welfare jobs since they are inevitable higher paid than they produce. They also have a nasty feature of you can't fire the stinkers.
This leads to rot and more welfare jobs and eventual megarot in the form of unions and unions lawyers working with cronies.
USA has the odd feature that we have the easiest life on the planet yet everyone thinks life is tuff and the rich don't pay them enough.
When people come here from north korea its like WOW, or from China...
There an engineer gets $200 a month with phd.
People are simply used to being lazy, and vote to keep thier welfare jobs, but printing money at fed or bloood sucking producers has a cost, its not for free.
They all work at welfare jobs.
They think that the propsperity capitalism gives is blood to suck and that they deserve something simply for showing up and exisitng.
The more we saddle producers with blood sucking the poorer we all get despite technological progress made mostly by non government private research.
If we simply said no debt spending we would all feel the crushing taxes needed to spend this much on cronies and welfare jobs.
Since the fed exists and we can run dificits, a politicians dream come true, they can overspend and the inflate with fed and push off the inevitable problem until they retire and leave the hot potato to the next guy.
This is all democrats do.
Peter drucker showed in his books how the modern managed corporation is really the only way known to produce anything.
Marx couldnt see this since they didn't exist until after marx.
They key distinction to make is that not all jobs are productive jobs.
Government jobs are welfare jobs since they are inevitable higher paid than they produce. They also have a nasty feature of you can't fire the stinkers.
This leads to rot and more welfare jobs and eventual megarot in the form of unions and unions lawyers working with cronies.
USA has the odd feature that we have the easiest life on the planet yet everyone thinks life is tuff and the rich don't pay them enough.
When people come here from north korea its like WOW, or from China...
There an engineer gets $200 a month with phd.
People are simply used to being lazy, and vote to keep thier welfare jobs, but printing money at fed or bloood sucking producers has a cost, its not for free.
Here are some comparisons for household incomes worldwide:You'll excuse me if I don't believe that Vietnam and Cuba are some of the happiest places on the planet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income)
Here is a list of the happiest countries in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Planet_Index (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Planet_Index)
money is irrelevant
find someone to love and and live a happy life
excessive capitalism is bad for your health
::)
When you realize this is the truth and that some people are building cyclotrons not studying sociology or thinking placing tiles is real work.No such thing as a Republican Scientist.
No such thing as a Republican Scientist.
Unions have been an important reason for the expansion of the Middle Class. With the emasculation of Unions in the private sector since the 1970's came the erosion of the well being of "Middle America."
I don't believe unions serve any real purpose anymore. In fact, Ford shut their plant down in Norfolk for that reason. People came in as assembly line workers for $17.89 an hour. Ford told them to take a paycut, UAW said no, so Ford closed the plant. Just saying.
You'll excuse me if I don't believe that Vietnam and Cuba are some of the happiest places on the planet.
Completely, totally, and profoundly wrong.
Not attacking because I live in a right to work state and don't deal with unions, can you explain it to me? I have bid work up north, and had to call local unions for equipment operators, tit for tat for my guys. How does that promote healthy business? I already have to deal with Davis Bacon for my federal jobs, but it doesn't matter as I pay my guys more anyway. I just don't see the point anymore, we're not in the 1920's.
Majik, 33333 and coach. Why dont you start checking facts before you post. You Intentionally lie when you post propaganda....is this a christian teaching? Use factcheck.org even when it tells you your wrong....you'll look smarter actually.
if you make more than 200k on the sale you py 3.8% tax. This is accurate.Well that's perfectly fine because if you make over 200k you're rich and you can afford it. :D
if you make more than 200k on the sale you py 3.8% tax. This is accurate.
correct. if its your primary residence this Obama tax is a great problem to have. however if you have a rental property you want to unload and you barely manage to eek out a profit on the sale, those exclusions do not apply and you have to pay the tax. so thats kind of bullshit but a lot of people make a real big deal out of nothing. its not that bad of a tax. but remember. no single tax is ever going to be increased by a large amount. government bleeds you slowly. it's never one big wound. it's a lot of little ones over a long period of time.
correct. if its your primary residence this Obama tax is a great problem to have. however if you have a rental property you want to unload and you barely manage to eek out a profit on the sale, those exclusions do not apply and you have to pay the tax. so thats kind of bullshit but a lot of people make a real big deal out of nothing. its not that bad of a tax. but remember. no single tax is ever going to be increased by a large amount. government bleeds you slowly. it's never one big wound. it's a lot of little ones over a long period of time.
rightOk Rush go and smash a few oxys and chill.
at being a foam at the mouth left wing extremeist bimbo
yep
Wrong again....as usual
The current rule which excludes taxes on the first 250k in net profit for individuals and 500k for couples for primary residences still applies
gota get rida post office n gov worker pensions ith unlimited health care
not earned
http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/free/20121115post-office-finances.html (http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/free/20121115post-office-finances.html)
Privatize that shit, or poach a CEO from FedEx to get that shit profitable.
The government forces business to do what exacly? Protecting the right to unionize doesn't mean emloyers have t comply with union demands.
http://www.pressherald.com/politics/Maine-Republican-chairman-questions-black-voters-.html (http://www.pressherald.com/politics/Maine-Republican-chairman-questions-black-voters-.html)
I have been in Maine and there are 0 black people.
So this guy is rational yet commies scream for his resignation for questioning this rationally.
Makes me wonder how many 1000s were bussed in by unions to swing states.
remember obama neede donyl 333,000 swing state votes total to secure the presidentcy.
kinda funny eh 333333?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/11/333-000-Votes-in-4-Swing-States-Would-Have-Given-Romney-the-Presidency (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/11/333-000-Votes-in-4-Swing-States-Would-Have-Given-Romney-the-Presidency)
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAtrue dat.
maddow is actually the best at what she does.
I'd honestly rather watch that scary nun with the eye patch than Maddow.and so you are welcome to do that! god bless america. ;)
:-X
shut up commy moron
dont try n misdirect
read the post
unions truck in blacks to illegally vote is the point
see, I view this as the market doing what the market does.
If you want cheap junk food cakes, Little Debbie is 1/2 to 1/3 the price of Hostess cakes.
If you want quality junk food, Entemanns is about the same price as hostess but way more quality.
a free market does not have government interfearance
Maddow states the facts in a clear way. Nice to watch.
nah shes a lying left wing nut who makes thnigs up nonstop in vein of jon stewart
madcow is not to be taken seriously
so she has basket weaving degree from whateve, she has neve had to produce in real world, so to hell with her
Yeah I mean jindal is kinda being an idiot here complaining about his own party.
Republicans must strongly and clearly say lower spending is how you fix a deficit, opposite of obama.
Chris Christie did it and so did Scott Walker and hek Reagan, so Christie Walker 2016 will be nice.
Yeah I mean jindal is kinda being an idiot here complaining about his own party.
Republicans must strongly and clearly say lower spending is how you fix a deficit, opposite of obama.
Chris Christie did it and so did Scott Walker and hek Reagan, so Christie Walker 2016 will be nice.
Really? And Rush and Beck have a degree from where again? Dropout U?one was a sports broadcaster and the other a Top 40 dee jay.
one was a sports broadcaster and the other a Top 40 dee jay.
no republicans = less gov spending, allowing biz to grow
dems = high gov spending and money down the drain and huge deficits, with biz strangled like hostess
no no LOWER SPENDING
lower military too
obama spent more on military than bush you know that right?
and remember defense is 14% of GDP and invents everything (https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?cht=p3&chs=600x200&chf=bg,s,e8e8ff&chd=t:17,18,14,14,12,5,5,2,7,6&chl=Pensions%2017%|Health%20Care%2018%|Education%2014%|Defense%2014%|Welfare%2012%|Protection%205%|Transportation%205%|General%20Government%202%|Other%20Spending%207%|Interest%206%&chtt=Total%20Spending%20for%20United%20States%20-%20FY%202013)
Obama fighting the obesity levels in the Bible belt regions it appears....
Seriously though, Little Debbie knocks spots all Hostess all day long. Their Zebra cakes are awesome.
you have to be kidding,little debbie are the wrost of the worst,all their shit tastes the same just different shapes ,cheap price and you can tell with your first bite
Really? And Rush and Beck have a degree from where again? Dropout U?
by the way George Bush had a MBA harvard.
:)
way above the basket weaving bs madcow has
Obama could have stopped all bailouts with dem house and senate.
Coulda let AIG eat it.
Nothing bad woulda happened.
and note the fed fannie and clinton era policy of must give loan to poor guy who wont make payments = 2008
not anything bush did
when you let GM and banks go outa biz the good banks who werent bastards buy thier offices and asses and any recession goen in 1 year. We would be kicking ass economically if Obama had done so.
instead Obama slapped 17T deficit on us.
bam!
Obama won't even release his college admissions and law school admissions papers and grades for both lol
transparent!!
bhengazi!!
fast and furious!! lol
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/16/Obama-Corruption-Battles-Will-Continue (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/16/Obama-Corruption-Battles-Will-Continue)
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I see 17 incorrect statements. To find the correct answers re-read all my past posts.
no you are wrong and sound like a communist
remember reagan proved you all wrong in 80s and he inherited a depression just like obama
I have guns and im pro life and not a communist. Quit generalizing, majik and youll finally start to see reality...the good an the bad.
You have a lot to learn about economics and business.
Are you some kind of academic?
I reccomend tom wood and peter schiff on youtube as well as john allison for starters.
by the way George Bush had a MBA harvard.You never have any idea what you're talking about.
:)
way above the basket weaving bs madcow has
You never have any idea what you're talking about.
Have you ever heard of Google? Try using it sometime.
Maddow earned a degree in public policy from Stanford in 1994.[19] At graduation she was awarded the John Gardner Fellowship.[20] She was also the recipient of a Rhodes Scholarship and began her postgraduate study in 1995 at Lincoln College, Oxford. In 2001, she earned a Doctor of Philosophy (DPhil) in politics from Oxford University.[21] Her thesis is titled HIV/AIDS and Health Care Reform in British and American Prisons (supervisor: Dr Lucia Zedner). She was the first openly gay American to win a Rhodes scholarship.[22][23]
basket weaving
Why not everything if something. Yes. A good point indeed.
Maddow is very good at what she does. Although she doesn't always seem to understand the core issues, she is probably better than any other network punditwhile i agree and appreciate your posting, please be ready to read lots of flaming on this topic now. ;) smart, lesbian women scare some o' these bois here.
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What's your PhD in?
basket weaving
What's your PhD in?
Madcow is a radical commie lezbo. She is not your typical crunchy short hair granola hairy butch type.glad to have ya back, bro!
yu can wipe your ass with 10 phd these daysHaha. Now I see.
moron krugman has a nobel as does moron obama
what business did you build???? welfare boy?
israel is sand and usa welfare money
israel is armed by usa this is why they win any skirmishes
un should disarm israel and move jews out give back land to owners
Haha. Now I see.
You can hardly put together a coherent sentence in your native language, so anyone with an education is a "basket-weaver".
Don't worry, champ. We all know you're superior to those "educated elitists".
You can calm down now.
Lie. You must be republican. Lying is easy for you. 4,237,000 jobs created during 2010-2012. Not bad considering the party of NO was busy blocking 51 jobs bills to put America back to work.
So you're saying the United States Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics was lying?
CNN fact-checked the 4.5 million job creation claim and found it to be "not the whole picture." Instead, CNN found that there has been a net increase of just 300,000 nonfarm payroll jobs since Obama took office. And if you count government jobs, there are actually 400,000 fewer people working today than in January 2009. The Bureau of Labor Statistics confirms that a lot of jobs have been created under Obama's leadership -- 4.4 million by the bureau's latest count. What Obama did not say, however, was that the nation shed 4.3 million jobs during the early days of his term, and that the net gain since he took the oath of office in January 2009 is just 125,000 jobs.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/03/politics/fact-check-jobs-economy/index.html
Theres nothing he could do about the policies effects around him when the country was in a freefall. Its commonly recognized that new policies take time to get hold...sometimes a year or more. Especially the previous one for Obama. Remember he was trying to get the republicans to work with him the first year and they were saying NO and their goal was to make him a one term president....all the while hell was breaking loose.
He managed to stop the bleeding and convinced the global economy we would recover...and saved the market.
2009. Bush policies coming to an end. Obamas 2009 policies take effect in 2010. Thats just the way it is.
So true. He's got to be a 33333 gimmick. The odds of 2 people being this dumb is crazy. :o
So true. He's got to be a 33333 gimmick. The odds of 2 people being this dumb is crazy. :o
I am way smarter than you moronic democrats, thats for sure.
Madcow is a total bimbo with a basket weaving degree you can wipe your ass with.
Just the facts mam!!!
2008=fed, fanny, clinton policy of give loan to lazy by law
socialism wont fix the problem of too much socialism.
Need to do opposite, cut spending by gov.
0 bailouts, let losers asset be bought by winner not the obama way other way aronud me and you bailout losers.
If they're moronic, being "way smarter" than them doesn't say much...
bim·bo/ˈbimbō/ N.: derogatory. An attractive but empty-headed young woman, esp. one perceived as a willing sex object.
You consider Rachel Maddow attractive? As for her "basket weaving" degree, as I said, basket weaving is a subject that you are, undboubtedly, an expert.
Each state has three option. 1-Set up themselves. 2- work with fed on partnership. 3- Fed sets up for them.
Number 1-Is for states that dont love big goverment and want to do it themselves.
Number 2- Is for a lazy mix.
Number 3- Is for people that want other people to get sick and die.
Walker has said No to number 1. Proving he wants Big goverment to take over for him.
if you find madcow attractive thats your gig, I personally think she IS and angery young man
no
simpleton
Walker does not want Obamacare.
does that really fall underneath the category of a logical fallacy? ???
right... because a slippery slope argument is not a logical fallacy ::)
american'ts are a simple breed
does that really fall underneath the category of a logical fallacy? ???
i was being half sarcastic in my comment. i do think that one should be very cautious about considering the philosophical implications about the wide range of other issues that can be advocated for based on the reasoning one is using to justify some particular decision.
but at the same time, i do realize that pragmatism and reasonability are certainly more important than being firm in your "principledness".
who cares spammer
more useless threads than VOLAND, TALLGERMAN, LUNDGRENISGOD, etc...
american'ts amuse me
It has less to do with thinking the wealth was unearned and more to do with the marginal utility of extra wealth once you've passed a certain point and how much more valuable that same dollar is to a poor person. Basically, the ends justify the means because of w utilitarian view of govenment.
Republic is still subject to the will or the people. Representatives are elected and can be voted out. Justices nominated by elected representatives. Constitutional amendments can be passed. In the end the majorit opinion always rules. And that's howqant government ought to work. Otherwiwe' who decides? If not the people, then which dictator or dictators? You see?
2008 was only partly related to government encouragement of fannie to make son prime loans. And bush encouraged that moreThan Clinton did. The other part was several big private banks bindoing the bad loans and paying off eating agencies so they could sell the loans to people who thought they were good investments so the bank making the bag loan wasn't on the hook for the rent and simply made more money for more volume and thisStarted engagong in predatory lending telling people thruir house price was going to go up forever and putting them in house they couldn't afford etc. Also have to blame all the people who took out loans they couldn't pay for. You really ought to circl your facts broo.
and ended fanie may
and ended fed
and reduced taxes
and reduced regulations
and balanced budget meaning 0 debt spending
lowered spending until surplus to pay off debt
recession over in 1 year
and usa be in nonstop upward growth spiral due to capitalism
instead opposite 8% unemplyment growing and 18% with non job seekers counted
we also repeat FDR mistake overspending which caused great depression to last 12 years not 1
rememebr grwoth at end of ww2 from lower gov spending since war spending stopped
Boy, a "Top 20" University education sure seems to not be worth very much these days...
the exclusion of the first 250k profit for single or 500k for couple only ever applied to primary residecnce
in the example you gave, if you sell a rental and make a small profit you have the normal capital gains tax and you would only be subject to the addtional tax if you AGI > 200k
i knew you were subject to capital gains rates as it is a code section 1231 asset however i thought you still were subject to the additional tax.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/thanks-barack-obamacare-will-add-3-8-medicare-tax-on-sales-of-homes-condos-townhouses-and-rentals/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/thanks-barack-obamacare-will-add-3-8-medicare-tax-on-sales-of-homes-condos-townhouses-and-rentals/)How do you continuously make such weak and stupid posts?
oh my!! more incorrect info from the nutty right wingers of the board. Who would have thought they would be wrong? Is there any issue they are even correct on? Benghazi was a dud, the election predictions a farce now repeating patently false information.
You fuckwits are causing the world a lot of problems, let the smart people handle it. The smart people who made your cellphones, medicines, materials etc..
Well that's perfectly fine because if you make over 200k you're rich and you can afford it. :D
oh my!! more incorrect info from the nutty right wingers of the board. Who would have thought they would be wrong? Is there any issue they are even correct on? Benghazi was a dud, the election predictions a farce now repeating patently false information.
You fuckwits are causing the world a lot of problems, let the smart people handle it. The smart people who made your cellphones, medicines, materials etc..
oh my!! more incorrect info from the nutty right wingers of the board. Who would have thought they would be wrong? Is there any issue they are even correct on? Benghazi was a dud, the election predictions a farce now repeating patently false information.
You fuckwits are causing the world a lot of problems, let the smart people handle it. The smart people who made your cellphones, medicines, materials etc..
you do understand how fucking stupid this comment is right? anyone? anyone? bueller?
enlighten me please ::)
Of course the rich pay their own way, didn't have too many kids and didn't buy crap they cannot afford. Seems only fair they should pay for those who make bad decisions
How do you continuously make such weak and stupid posts?
Do you do research?
those smart people who made your phones, medicines, materials, etc. who exactly are those people? you understand thats corporate america right? you know those bad white men who you demonize on a daily basis? you understand that those luxuries are afforded to you at an affordable price because we haven't let liberal america completely take over this country right? no you don't understand that. you're a walking cliche dude.
also do me a favor go back and look at your posts for the past few months. is there any issue that you don't agree with the liberal left movement about? when was the last time you had an original thought? honestly.
oh jesus I thought you were going to write a cogent response. I am not a liberal, I am progressive on social issues and conservative in most economic issues.
However, your response is patently false. The smart people ie scientists like physicists discover things like quantum mechanics, particle physics (fact within those theories)etc and apply them to the real world, like lasers, computers and cell phones. Then corporate america buys the technology and whores it. This is where the stupids come in.
The biochemists discover the receptors and create drugs to target these resulting in drugs, the pharmaceutical companies provide the capital to do so and then mark up the drug substantially. They have nothing to do with production of the product, nor are they involved in the research. I could give 100s of other examples but the point is that when stupid people like bachmann, palin, etc get involved they fuck things up. Rubio not knowing the age of the earth yet being on a committee that oversee's science amongst other things is retarded. It's a fact that is required knowledge before leaving highschool.
You appear to be one of these stupids. These products are marked up for a substantial profit, for example xanax a simple benzodiazepine is marked up roughly 1000%, how the fuck is this made affordable to me, seems to me that a greedy fucking company is making an absolute killing.
corporate america is not involved in research, that's science, corporate america are involved in the monetary gain of said research. I have no problem with that but stop insulting the smart people, stupid people like those who get paul reveres story backwards or those who thought benghazi was a scandal should just let smart people handle it.
Nice post.
A reply Bear?
Nice post? Are you serious? I don't even know where to start with this. You're so typical it's downright scary.
You quite simply have a child's understanding of how we are able to manufacture and distribute drugs or any product that requires a development stage and hefty amounts of research. You're trying to imply that the scientists and the "smart people" have no profit motive, and the evil corporations snatch these patents from them and "mark up prices". You know. Cuz they're evil.
Let's stay with your drug example. Two things need to happen in order to get drugs out into the market in order for the general polulation to benefit. First the drug needs to be created. This is done by scientists in research labs funded by those evil greedy corporations. You know. The "bad guys".Those scientists that you deem the "good guys" come out of school looking for jobs with these corporations so that they can raise a family and take home a fat paycheck and buy the things that they want and need. You make it sound like they're just sitting in a basement somewhere doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.
Now they have to get these drugs tested, tested, and tested again and again, cleared by the FDA and given the OK to manufacture and distribute. This all costs money. You do understand this right? I don't know anyone who works in that field that works for free.
Do some of these markups get out of hand? Yes. Is it because the corporations are evil and stupid? Quite simply no. They have shareholders and employees to pay. They have research teams to test the safety of the drug over and over and over again so your kid doesn't die when he/she takes said drug. They have logistical issues with how to manufacture the drugs in mass production and how to get them safely into your little hands. In order to turn a profit yes a lot of these markups have to be very very high. And yes none of this shit will be done(and more importantly done right) unless someone is turning a profit. You liberal lemmings really need to understand this. This is real life. Not the feel good movie of the year.
This is a 3 day seminar type of discussion that we're having but I know (because I'm an adult) that the answer is not as easy as "corporations are bad" and "the smart scientists are good". You are the typical american voter though so it's hard to blame you. This is the only information you're given on a daily basis and you simply refuse to take any of this information at face value. Ridiculous. the difference between you and I is quite simple actually. You believe in what makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I believe in looking at a problem, picking it apart, and making changes that will achieve a desired result. And the confidence that you have in the dribble that you type on here is what scares me the most. Because there's millions just like you.
Yup sounds about right.
You seem to think that these things is new or hard for others to understand but its common knowledge.
Have you just learned these things for yourself?
you obviously have nothing of any substance to say thats why you're throwing weak insults out in a desperate attempt to save face. i have to get back to work now. ok buh bye now.
"The biochemists discover the receptors and create drugs to target these resulting in drugs, the pharmaceutical companies provide the capital to do so and then mark up the drug substantially. They have nothing to do with production of the product, nor are they involved in the research. I could give 100s of other examples but the point is that when stupid people like bachmann, palin, etc get involved they fuck things up. Rubio not knowing the age of the earth yet being on a committee that oversee's science amongst other things is retarded. It's a fact that is required knowledge before leaving highschool."
and Necrosis this is by far your most ignorant statement. you do understand that there are many PHD lab rats who go on to become board members and/or upper management of these corporations that they work for right? my cousin's husband actually took this exact path. i don't think he turned evil once he got his appointment to the board.
Taxes dollars subsidize a a lot research. A good deal of research is conducted at public universities using tax money but Americans never reap the financial benefits of their investment.
lol I love how world has gooten colder for 4 years.
Can't say global wrming anymore lol
love it
green bs just lawyer burocrat money making scam o rama
Gore is a another crook that people should show their naked butt to in disrespect. I don't know ohw this guy was made into a celebrity.
He is filthy rich from being a crook /end thread.
What were those two scandals where it was revealed TWICE not once, different leaked communications, memos, emails, etc... showcasing they were fabricating data, lying, decieving people, even people losing jobs (and of course credibility in the scientific community via pressure) when exposing the truth on the matter.
Right. Only 97 percent of climate scientist agree that climate change is real and man-made.
I'm sure you guys have done your own independent research which can refute it all.
This might be the reason here:Over a recent six-month period, Fox News misled prime-time viewers about climate science in 93 percent of the cases UCS examined -- 37 of 40 instances. Meanwhile, in 39 of 48 instances in the Wall Street Journal opinion section, when climate science was addressed over a yearlong period, it was misrepresented or mocked, according to the report.
http://www.ibtimes.com/fox-news-wsj-mislead-climate-change-scientist-group-794969
limbaugh is a tard... most listeners are laughing at him, not with him
Sure they do, thats why he was the keynote at the RNC and thats why the libs tired to get him silenced I'm the house floor. You just keep right on thinking he's getting laughed at. You.know who's getting laught at is that little boy Rachel maddow. Haha
mehThis. I couldn't give a fuck less about global warming.
worst thing that will happen is that we'll all die
sounds like a nice day to me
i've been drinking though
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Instrumental_Temperature_Record_%28NASA%29.svg/800px-Instrumental_Temperature_Record_%28NASA%29.svg.png)
.6 degree variance in 100 years and we have been only tracking temps for a couple of 100 years and there have been a couple of ice ages in our history?i dont think that the presence of an additional threat diminishes the severity of the other threat
What's the problem?
shouldn't we be worried about global cooling?
As usual the root of the "global warming" movement is anti-capitolist. It's just another excuse for the .gov to take more money from it's citizens and the evil corporations. This fake panic is just a technique to manipulate people into paying taxes they wouldn't ordinarily pay and accept regulations that they ordinarily would not accept. Any time that the government says that something "must be done immediately or else" it just means that they don't want you to take a closer look at their data and what's really in the bills that they are trying to pass. Think for yourself.Right, it's a global conspiracy.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/10/inconvenient-truth-ice-cap-growing/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/
Right, it's a global conspiracy.
97 percent of climate scientists and NASA are all in on it.
They probably want to take your guns.
Obviously didn't read the links because you made no effort to refute the info from legit mainstream sources.Better stock up on ammo, too.
Better stock up on ammo, too.
Another brilliant and relevant retort.Got grenades?
remember science is useless until you implement somethingDo you really think that's how you spell that?
most inventions come from and individual alone or in a corporation
rarely by government
henry ford was not a government burocratnor was linus torvalds
Got grenades?
As usual the root of the "global warming" movement is anti-capitolist. It's just another excuse for the .gov to take more money from it's citizens and the evil corporations. This fake panic is just a technique to manipulate people into paying taxes they wouldn't ordinarily pay and accept regulations that they ordinarily would not accept. Any time that the government says that something "must be done immediately or else" it just means that they don't want you to take a closer look at their data and what's really in the bills that they are trying to pass. Think for yourself.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/10/inconvenient-truth-ice-cap-growing/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/
there is mind boggling stupidity in both links, the first for example keeps linking to other articles no primary research. It also talks about cold days? that's called weather.
i dont think that the presence of an additional threat diminishes the severity of the other threat
.6 in 100 years. Is there a threat?
They all work at welfare jobs.
They think that the propsperity capitalism gives is blood to suck and that they deserve something simply for showing up and exisitng.
The more we saddle producers with blood sucking the poorer we all get despite technological progress made mostly by non government private research.
If we simply said no debt spending we would all feel the crushing taxes needed to spend this much on cronies and welfare jobs.
Since the fed exists and we can run dificits, a politicians dream come true, they can overspend and the inflate with fed and push off the inevitable problem until they retire and leave the hot potato to the next guy.
This is all democrats do.
Peter drucker showed in his books how the modern managed corporation is really the only way known to produce anything.
Marx couldnt see this since they didn't exist until after marx.
They key distinction to make is that not all jobs are productive jobs.
Government jobs are welfare jobs since they are inevitable higher paid than they produce. They also have a nasty feature of you can't fire the stinkers.
This leads to rot and more welfare jobs and eventual megarot in the form of unions and unions lawyers working with cronies.
USA has the odd feature that we have the easiest life on the planet yet everyone thinks life is tuff and the rich don't pay them enough.
When people come here from north korea its like WOW, or from China...
There an engineer gets $200 a month with phd.
People are simply used to being lazy, and vote to keep thier welfare jobs, but printing money at fed or bloood sucking producers has a cost, its not for free.
after doctor debt obama we will get new 80s with christie and walker 2016
kerry goen from MA so walker get that seat
Hey Mods - can we all agree this is a MORONIC post
I'm not calling the poster a moron but it's just that when he posts he sounds like a moron
They all work at welfare jobs.
It seems you confuse the general rule with the exception.it's just getting worse for you
I work as private computer guy. I am betting you work for government adonis?
It seems you confuse the general rule with the exception.
When you realize this is the truth and that some people are building cyclotrons not studying sociology or thinking placing tiles is real work.
it's just getting worse for you
The general rule stands. Regardless of exceptions.
Not attacking because I live in a right to work state and don't deal with unions, can you explain it to me? I have bid work up north, and had to call local unions for equipment operators, tit for tat for my guys. How does that promote healthy business? I already have to deal with Davis Bacon for my federal jobs, but it doesn't matter as I pay my guys more anyway. I just don't see the point anymore, we're not in the 1920's.
Unfortunately, you are not all employers. There are many who don't pay fairly. Precision Castparts, a manufacture here in the Portland area, keep their salary and benefit packages competitive too. Like with your company, there is no need for the employees to unionize. However, there are other companies where this is not the case. Oregon is not a right to work state.
They're just now figuring that out, and Ron Paul is about to step down.
There is no argument that capitalism produces the most wealth.
socialism can't even come close
The problem is now socialsits do really sneaky thing.
They suck blood of capitalism.
They blame failures of government on capitalism. 2008 caused by government
cronies also dont liek competition, so they try and suppress it, so we get unions using government force
never beleive unions are good adn negotiate, they are bad corny multinational corps who benefit idiots at top, not workers nor consumers
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Don't forget the pics of him with :
Viagra
4 ex wives
and suspected little boys from Costa Rica
You mean the debt and deficit will explode like in the 80's?
capitalism = no force in human interactions
unions use government to force people to do thier bidding and as miltinatioanl corps unions buy 100s million dolalr TV ads to attack politicians they don't like
if unions just negotiated with emplyers and there were no laws enforcing unions on everyone and unions could not spend dues on ads or trying to control elections, then they be fine
this is not what exists by a long long shot
Don't forget the pics of him with :
Viagra
4 ex wives
and suspected little boys from Costa Rica
Haha, you guys go after rush but leave your presidents chronic cocaine and weed addictionand homosexual affairs. Haha. Too funny.
::)
Don't roll your eyes. The coke and weed are in.his own.words.
Another great thread.
Where do you find all of your inspiration?
Many people do drugs for a period of time in their lives. That doesn't make them addicts any more than a spun up article makes this years election rigged.
So yes, when you say something like that among the many other things you say, I go.... ::)
Really? Tell that to the ones.who bashed GW. Obama said.he he partied through high school and.college. if that's the case how did he get in to Harvard and.Columbia?
So no one that parties ever gets into Harvard or Columbia?
I would assume not. What do his transcripts say? Oh wait....there are none!
I would assume not. What do his transcripts say? Oh wait....there are none!Hi Coach. I know you're not an elected figure, but given your continued, vociferous, political jeremiads and efforts towards transparency, can you post up you educational grades. Thanks much, doc :)
Hi Coach. I know you're not an elected figure, but given your continued, vociferous, political jeremiads and efforts towards transparency, can you post up you educational grades. Thanks much, doc :)
Lemme see if I have your logic straight:
You say becuase Obama said he partied and because no one can party can go to Harvard and Columbia and because he hasn't shown his transcripts that means Obama is an addict that never went to Harvard and Columbia?
You are hilarious. ;D
You should have a political satire show.
Haha, you guys go after rush but leave your presidents chronic cocaine and weed addictionand homosexual affairs. Haha. Too funny.
You're defending someone who's blatantly corrupt and feels no.one.should know.anything.about who you.voted for and now the leader of the free world and you're calling me illogical??? Really? Think about that for a.sec oz.
and that clinton caused 2008 by forcing fannei to give loasn to people who wont pay and fed printing the money
get gov outa the way adn non of this happen
occupy the fed and clintons
of course dood frank not fix fannie or end it
nor end the fed
You're defending someone who's blatantly corrupt and feels no.one.should know.anything.about who you.voted for and now the leader of the free world and you're calling me illogical??? Really? Think about that for a.sec oz.
Hey Mods,
I thought you were deleting posts that weren't true or had claims that weren't sourced
Is there any proof that Obama is ADDICTED to cocaine, weed or has homosexual affairs etc..
how about in between moving threads when a certain poster gets his panties in a twist you also delete this crap too
We're not allowed to call these posters or these kinds of post crap so how about taking it off the board
maybe you can make an "insane accusations" sand box for these children to go play in
birth certificates, passports, grades. You realize that the status he obtained requires a certain gpa, which is quite high. I'm glad he won't release the exact marks, makes people like you upset. You want nohim to bow to your insanity, show this birth certificate, no not that one, we want a special one with 100 eye witness testimonies. he could get you everything you want and you would want more, reason being, you are insane.
Sure they do, thats why he was the keynote at the RNC and thats why the libs tired to get him silenced I'm the house floor. You just keep right on thinking he's getting laughed at. You.know who's getting laught at is that little boy Rachel maddow. Haha
Haha, you guys go after rush but leave your presidents chronic cocaine and weed addictionand homosexual affairs. Haha. Too funny.
Seems like many Republicans are experiencing difficulty making good choices lately, including picking a "clown" like Rush Limbaugh to be the keynote speaker at the Republican National Convention. Then there also was Mr. "Make my day" Clint Eastwood making a fool of himself talking to an empty chair at the same convention. It is embarrassing!
You libs are a complete joke. You say stupid shot like this when you have dumbshit.eva longoria as your.spokes person at the DNC, Russian fighter jets and ships in the.background not realizing it wasn't our own and to top it off, Chris.Matthews feeling shivers down.his leg and a complete Fuck.up for a president. BTW, he IS NOT my president.
Belief is more powerful than fact.
If that were true 333386 and the GOP echo chamber would have gotten their LANDSLIDE!!! :D
You libs are a complete joke. You say stupid shot like this when you have dumbshit.eva longoria as your.spokes person at the DNC, Russian fighter jets and ships in the.background not realizing it wasn't our own and to top it off, Chris.Matthews feeling shivers down.his leg and a complete Fuck.up for a president. BTW, he IS NOT my president.
Do you not live in the U.S.? Are you not a U.S. citizen? Answer yes, and President Obama is indeed your President, like it or not.I think Deleted One seceded because he hates America.
Yes....as I posted prior to the election, we aren't perfect, but they're nuts! Apparently many agreed, which is why President Obama is the President and not that other fellow, whatever his name was. Like it or not!
You are getting to the point where you might want your secretary to look over your posts before you submit them because they are loaded with mistakes, which you once indicated were the responsibility of your secretary to fix because doing so yourself was beneath you....or some such shit.;D
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/jan/HQ_12-020_2011_Global_Temp.html
RELEASE : 12-020 NASA Finds 2011 Ninth Warmest Year on Record WASHINGTON -- The global average surface temperature in 2011 was the ninth warmest since 1880, according to NASA scientists. The finding continues a trend in which nine of the 10 warmest years in the modern meteorological record have occurred since the year 2000.
NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York, which monitors global surface temperatures on an ongoing basis, released an updated analysis that shows temperatures around the globe in 2011 compared to the average global temperature from the mid-20th century. The comparison shows how Earth continues to experience warmer temperatures than several decades ago. The average temperature around the globe in 2011 was 0.92 degrees F (0.51 C) warmer than the mid-20th century baseline.
"We know the planet is absorbing more energy than it is emitting," said GISS director James E. Hansen. "So we are continuing to see a trend toward higher temperatures. Even with the cooling effects of a strong La Nina influence and low solar activity for the past several years, 2011 was one of the 10 warmest years on record."
The difference between 2011 and the warmest year in the GISS record (2010) is 0.22 degrees F (0.12 C). This underscores the emphasis scientists put on the long-term trend of global temperature rise. Because of the large natural variability of climate, scientists do not expect temperatures to rise consistently year after year. However, they do expect a continuing temperature rise over decades.
The first 11 years of the 21st century experienced notably higher temperatures compared to the middle and late 20th century, Hansen said. The only year from the 20th century in the top 10 warmest years on record is 1998.
Higher temperatures today are largely sustained by increased atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases, especially carbon dioxide. These gases absorb infrared radiation emitted by Earth and release that energy into the atmosphere rather than allowing it to escape to space. As their atmospheric concentration has increased, the amount of energy "trapped" by these gases has led to higher temperatures.
The carbon dioxide level in the atmosphere was about 285 parts per million in 1880, when the GISS global temperature record begins. By 1960, the average concentration had risen to about 315 parts per million. Today it exceeds 390 parts per million and continues to rise at an accelerating pace.
The temperature analysis produced at GISS is compiled from weather data from more than 1,000 meteorological stations around the world, satellite observations of sea surface temperature and Antarctic research station measurements. A publicly available computer program is used to calculate the difference between surface temperature in a given month and the average temperature for the same place during 1951 to 1980. This three-decade period functions as a baseline for the analysis.
The resulting temperature record is very close to analyses by the Met Office Hadley Centre in the United Kingdom and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.
Hansen said he expects record-breaking global average temperature in the next two to three years because solar activity is on the upswing and the next El Nino will increase tropical Pacific temperatures. The warmest years on record were 2005 and 2010, in a virtual tie.
"It's always dangerous to make predictions about El Nino, but it's safe to say we'll see one in the next three years," Hansen said. "It won't take a very strong El Nino to push temperatures above 2010."
For more information on the GISS temperature analysis, visit:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp
Here are some comparisons for household incomes worldwide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income)
Here is a list of the happiest countries in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Planet_Index (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Planet_Index)
money is irrelevant
find someone to love and and live a happy life
excessive capitalism is bad for your health
lol
context: In a person's mind, what they believe is more powerful than fact. Therefore regardless of facts that contradict their beliefs they will continue to still believe it. For example: Most CT's, such as the truthers and birthers
This is interesting - http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.asp
Looks like he didn't actually want to fight communism. I mean, not with a weapon or anything.
no 80s deficit and debt went down
don't believe paul krugman view of history
plus dont forget dem congress had a lot of obama plans where 10 years of cut that never happen keep debt away
dems overspending tools
anyone alive in 80s know economy way way way way better than now and almsot no unemplyment
remember obama sofar has done 4 times all debt acucmulated in 80s and 8x the iraq war
nasa one of biggest govenment paid bureacracies in world
capitalism = no force in human interactions
unions use government to force people to do thier bidding and as miltinatioanl corps unions buy 100s million dolalr TV ads to attack politicians they don't like
if unions just negotiated with emplyers and there were no laws enforcing unions on everyone and unions could not spend dues on ads or trying to control elections, then they be fine
this is not what exists by a long long shot
Yeah so many private enterprises is into space flightPlus, they're so unsuccessful.
Yeah so many private enterprises is into space flightRichard Branson comes to mind. Although I haven't been keeping up with his attempts at space flight.
You morons do realize that you're arguing with one of blackens multiple personalities- right?
No, I may or may not from time to time move threads who's titles are not factually correct, but i will not turn myself or suggest any other mod turn into factcheck.mod.
If someone is _______________ enough to believe things like that, then they deserve to believe it and i doubt any amout of truth or facts will sway their beliefs.
I have said it many times before:
Belief is more powerful than fact.
how about just tell the poster to prove their claim, in this case that Obama is addicted to coke and weed, and is having homosexual affairs
If not then this is the kind of crap that will eventually fill this board
btw - since the new rules went into effect it seems that most of the threads are just typical right wing vomiting off all the stupid shit they tried to do before only without their natural adversary (rational sane people from both right and left) they've just proliferated without anyone to stop them
In some ways, its sounds silly to say, but the GOP should have ran a Hope and change campaign.Romney was trying the hope and change thing in the end.
The more I see, the more I am starting to think its the us vs them mantra/crowd that turned many voters off or caused many not to vote at all or the GOP turd caused many to vote for Gary Johnson.
Either way they lost a slam dunk election against what the ignorant believe is a gay coke addict born in Kenya with a below average iQ. Which means their level of stupidity is mind boggling.
These people must be among the dumbest on earth.
If that were true 333386 and the GOP echo chamber would have gotten their LANDSLIDE!!! :D
You really think any one takes people like this seriously? You have to be a pretty ignorantly twisted person to actually believe some of this crap. Or they are saying it to get a rise of others. Paying too much attention to it just gives power. Laughing or ignoring it doesn't.
Be real, there was much more the 4 years before the election.
the morons making these statements believe it and you already posted about the power of belief
how about just the fact that it's a blatant lie
Isn't that enough to require them to show proof of have it deleted
It's those types of remark that earn the poster their well deserved beating
You want "Lie Police" in a politics board? lol.
I believe the posters are the best police for that. Look at the poster here who claims OB is a coke addict with his arguments/evidence. Is it anymore obvious that his retort is nothing more that a desperate attempt to perpetuate an inaccuracy that ended with "Liberals are a joke" This person got a pretty good beating. Are you expecting that person to admit it? That would be fantasy land.
I'm not being paid to post here,
Obama admits he did coke
The gay lover claimed obama did coke w him
Obama has been filmed high on drugs
Choom gang, etc etc.
Obama admits he did coke
The gay lover claimed obama did coke w him
Obama has been filmed high on drugs
Choom gang, etc etc.
While in high school at the Punahou School in Honolulu, Obama began associating with a group of boys who "loved basketball and good times," says Maraniss. The group — "decent students and athletes who went on to become successful and productive lawyers, writers, and businessmen" — dubbed itself the Choom Gang.This must have been one scary gang!
Yeah so many private enterprises is into space flight
.
i've been to cuba 23 times...
they're pretty happy...
they live longer and healthier lives than most american'ts and cuba is essentially a 3rd world country
Americans were always too full of themselves to listen to Demmings, that's why the Japanese after WWII incorporated Demmings theories into their system of education, and produces generations of Japanese kids that can solve complicated math problem in the 2nd grade, that American students cannot even complete in the 12th grade.
I have told you this several times.
Republicans = wars, tax cuts & increased military spending.
Republicans spends far more than dem
This is why you can't break your programming and see reality.
Republicans spend less.
Obama deficit spent more than other presidents combined.
Never look at percentages look at absolutes.
Percentages mislead.
one was a sports broadcaster and the other a Top 40 dee jay.
too bad you can't provide one link to support any of those false statements
Do you get that factcheck is a democrat website and lies right?
Well I see even on CNN deficit is nearing 17T, and wikipedia shows in 2008 deficit was 8T, and wikipedia is a democrat website probably skewing things in Obama's favor as well. Thats 9T, and now we have 4 more years.
Can you even attempt to argue that without babbling about percentages?
still not a single link
spare me your idiotic ramblings
This is why you can't break your programming and see reality.
Republicans spend less.
Obama deficit spent more than other presidents combined.
Never look at percentages look at absolutes.
Percentages mislead.
I bet you love reddit and jon stewart. lol
Never look at percentages look at absolutes.
Percentages mislead.
http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm
we already said percentages are BS
Apparently everything that isnt right wing propaganda is BS to you
we already said percentages are BS
You are now a whole group of people? I don't see it. What I see is a lot of folk thinking you are wrong and/or crazy stupid.
Ok lets get this straight:
me
154 iq
6 fig net worth
top 20 university degre
live by beach in socal, 200 yards from sand
tall german irish russian french blue eyes with mass and ladies galore 0 kids
you:
garbage truck driver
beleives in reddit n jon stewart bs
no life
thx
Ok lets get this straight:
me
154 iq
6 fig net worth
top 20 university degre
live by beach in socal, 200 yards from sand
tall german irish russian french blue eyes with mass and ladies galore 0 kids
you:
garbage truck driver
beleives in reddit n jon stewart bs
no life
thx
You must not have much of a social life because you are on here posting all day.
Lol 154 IQ
another clue that he's 333
another clue that he's 333
New rules need to be followed straw.
Poor conclusion.
Just because he posts as frequently as 333333 doesn't mean he's 3333.
I have no idea what rule I broke nor do I care
You must not have much of a social life because you are on here posting all day.
I didn't say it was conclusive
I said it was a clue
they both are polluting this board with their insane, unproven claims
Its not even a clue.
You are baiting me again. Follow the rules please, they are some and fair.
Debt went from 8 to 30T
didn't end iraq or afghanistan wars
spent more on military than Bush
unionized fedex
allowed fed to run wild and debt up the economy instead fo moving toward balanced budget
nuked middle class
took away most gun rights
created more debt than all previous presidents combined
fast and furious
the worst president of all time
sure it is
so is being the first 4 or 5 posts on his own thread, talking about Austrian economics etc.. and the fact that the gimmick started posting like crazy just when 333 was sulking and sending pm's after Obama was re-elected
Made a lot of low IQ Fox news sheep humiliate themselves on GB.
Lol. Takes osmosis advice. And pleas follow the rules.
Made a lot of penniless low iq CNN and MSNBC watching sheep feel like they are brad pitt and einstein combined on GB.
fixed
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Penilles?
Ok lets get this straight:
me
154 iq
6 fig net worth
top 20 university degre
live by beach in socal, 200 yards from sand
tall german irish russian french blue eyes with mass and ladies galore 0 kids
you:
garbage truck driver
beleives in reddit n jon stewart bs
no life
thx
well gay bars aren't an option for me...
sure it is
so is being the first 4 or 5 posts on his own thread, talking about Austrian economics etc.. and the fact that the gimmick started posting like crazy just when 333 was sulking and sending pm's after Obama was re-elected
For a person who claims to have an IQ of 154, you don't seem to be able to answer the question which was asked. Comprehension issues perhaps?lol this is one you can never win, nev errrr lol
Just so you know, me:
IQ - no idea what it is today since I haven't bothered having it tested since I was a little kid at which time I was told it was high.
Net worth - high 6 figures
Education - not as good as you claim to have, yet fail to exhibit in any meaningful way.
Live in West Linn, OR an upscale suburb of Portland. (lived in Santa Monica, CA, 3 houses back from the boardwalk, when I moved from home at 18 years old. Found the winters too dreary so I moved.
5'11" tall. Green eyes. Member of the SAR. Married 48 years with two children and four grandchildren.
My guess is you:
-Immature; lives with parent....probably a single mom who coddles you
-Unemployed; sponges off parent
-Likely alcoholic with acute ADHD
-Right wing nut with an unnatural fixation on Ayn Rand and a sexual attraction to transsexuals with large fake boobs
-Braggart with an imaginary life
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The causation is backwards. They didn't get government money because they donated to obama. They donated to obama in order to get government money. You see, if your big on green energy and a candidate running for office if also big on green energy then your likely to contribute to his campaign because you know his policies will be in your interest. If someone didn't want government money going to green energy then they shouldn't have voted for obama because he campaigned on that premise.
Barney Frank On Low Congress Approval: Voters Give Us 'Impossible' Task, 'I Don’t Feel Guilty'
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/11/25/Barney-Frank-On-Low-Congress-Approval-I-Dont-Feel-Guilty-Because-Voters-Ask-Us-To%20Do-The-Impossible (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/11/25/Barney-Frank-On-Low-Congress-Approval-I-Dont-Feel-Guilty-Because-Voters-Ask-Us-To%20Do-The-Impossible)
remember Frank said no to stopping fannie loans that caused 2008, just a mega evil guy who should be put up against a wall
Fannie/Freddie didn't cause anything
Fannie/Freddie didn't cause anything
I noticed you didn't mention kind of work you do?
I am a published author and can out write any one of you.
I also am former football and basketball player and have a great inside game.
now just for balance, so this isn't labelled a total meltdown ape chest pounding rant, Things I am bad at:
Any short guy x sports since I am tall.
lying, since my face gives it away or I start laughing
being patient, esp when driving
business, since I don't own a big successful one, but I am trying to change this.
understanding how selfish people are despite what they say otherwise, this I am improving on
typing since I never bothered, and capitalization which sucks for online
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the goofiness of the the american't right knows no bounds
As some one in th elending industry at that time, trust me, yes they did. Two things that went hand in hand were...
*Community Reinvestment Act
*Mortgage Backed Securities
I personally remember George W Bush recommending oversight of Fanny and Freddie as far back as 2003. He warned Congress that there was trouble brewing. The Democrats killed that idea and raised holy hell saying that there was nothing wrong and anyone who didn't support the CRA was a racist, blah, blah, blah. The comical part is now years after the bottom fell out Dems have got the public convinced that it was all Bush's fault. Laughable. This link gives a good timeline for anyone interested in reality.
http://www.thehispanicconservative.com/General/the-fanny-mae-and-freddie-mac-debacle.html
As some one in th elending industry at that time, trust me, yes they did. Two things that went hand in hand were...
*Community Reinvestment Act
*Mortgage Backed Securities
I personally remember George W Bush recommending oversight of Fanny and Freddie as far back as 2003. He warned Congress that there was trouble brewing. The Democrats killed that idea and raised holy hell saying that there was nothing wrong and anyone who didn't support the CRA was a racist, blah, blah, blah. The comical part is now years after the bottom fell out Dems have got the public convinced that it was all Bush's fault. Laughable. This link gives a good timeline for anyone interested in reality.
http://www.thehispanicconservative.com/General/the-fanny-mae-and-freddie-mac-debacle.html
nice mish mash of meaningless crap
MBS have existed for a long time as has the CRA
the cause of the cause of the meltdown was the deregulation of the commodities market that allowed investment banks to create pools of mortgage that were designed to fail. This wasn't the original intent but as investments banks (Lehman and Bears Stearns) created the Alt-A loan product they gradually started loosening UW standards. With this new source of easy money in the market an asset bubble was created and eventually certain banks and hedge funds figured out that they could create pools of loans that were designed to fail and cash in on the credit default swaps (something that AIG and other companies were allowed to create without ever having the asset base to back them up)
It's amazing how so many years after the meltdown that we still have these right wingers passing along the same stupid lies about what caused the problem when the facts have been presented many many times over
Fannie/Freddie, CRA etc.. are all right wing scapegoats and did not CAUSE anything
when the asset bubble popped then any bank, lender or associated institution that was holding MBS was going to be effected as the value of their assets declined or became impossible to value accurately on a balance sheet
"Are liberals mentally ill, spiritually depraved or just ignorant good-hearted people trying to improve society?"
Lol, yes to all.
Well...far be it from me to let bragging pass by without getting some in myself.
Me:
6'8"
275 - RIPPED
Hitting 50 lb's with my pinkie finger (about 60 sets per workout)
Income: High 7 figures
Hair: Like Fabio
Women: Numerous and ALL models
Education: PhD, MD, DDS, LLS, GBD
House: What's that?
Mansions: 6 - 3 in exotic locations
Well...far be it from me to let bragging pass by without getting some in myself.
Me:
6'8"
275 - RIPPED
Hitting 50 lb's with my pinkie finger (about 60 sets per workout)
Income: High 7 figures
Hair: Like Fabio
Women: Numerous and ALL models
Education: PhD, MD, DDS, LLS, GBD
House: What's that?
Mansions: 6 - 3 in exotic locations
Come and take them!Oh we're coming for them... You have no right buddy!
Oh we're coming for them... You have no right buddy!
Bring your whole crew.You will be deleted.
You will be deleted.
People that come after me looking for trouble will find it.calm down virgin; I was joking. I'm on the same page lol...
calm down virgin; I was joking. I'm on the same page lol...
He he, I'm no virgin. I've got so many STD's half of them don't even have names yet.Don't worry, I'm taking a guess that I was dead serious about this issue when you were getting your diapers changed. Forgive me for thinking you are a virgin. I sometimes make that mistake when people start braging about their 9 inch cocks and mistaking normal shaved pussies for a penoris on the board. ;)
This just happens to be an issue about which I'm dead serious. You'll have to forgive me for not recognizing that you are a supporter of liberty, Hugo Chavez. :D
Don't worry, I'm taking a guess that I was dead serious about this issue when you were getting your diapers changed. Forgive me for thinking you are a virgin. I sometimes make that mistake when people start braging about their 9 inch cocks and mistaking normal shaved pussies for a penoris on the board. ;)
How are they going to come? In the middle of the night? Black outfits? By helicopters?
Never mind your little failure Mitt was more opposed to guns than any prior candidate. Obama has been nothing but gun friendly.
They are cowards so they will probablly come at night dressed in black. I'm talking about cop-erators not ninjas. Ninjas would be more problematic but there are contingency plans. I can't tell you any more, OPSEC.did you just start talking about ninjas and secrecy lol.... You're adding geek onto virgin? ohhh. lol... You're not going to last long here talking like this.
did you just start talking about ninjas and secrecy lol.... You're adding geek onto virgin? ohhh. lol... You're not going to last long here talking like this.
I said too much.yup... that's usually it lol...
I said too much. I'm not paranoid, I just maintain a constant state of suspicious alertness.
Just because I'm sitting at my computer, naked, wearing a K-pot wrapped in tinfoil doesn't mean I'm a geek.
Wait are you Trekkie_Ogre on WoW???
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/guest-on-fox-news-to-discuss-benghazi-attack-is-given-a-quick-exit/ (http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/guest-on-fox-news-to-discuss-benghazi-attack-is-given-a-quick-exit/)
msnbc is pro dem no doubt but they arent paid by them like most Fox crew.
Thats why they lied about poll numbers while msnbc called out Obama as a loser after the first debate.
msnbc is pro dem no doubt but they arent paid by them like most Fox crew.
Thats why they lied about poll numbers while msnbc called out Obama as a loser after the first debate.
This is the truth. MSNBC leans left politically but I've never felt that they outright lie like Fox.
ever watch a chris matthews show?
might as well be obama sitting there
Getting 50 MPG out of a gallon of gas has gotten a lot more expensive over the past 20-something years.
Back in 1990, it only cost $5,995 – $10,614 in corrected-for-2012 Fed Funny Money. That sum would buy you a new Geo Metro XFi hatchback, a car capable of 53 city, 58 highway (43 city/52 highway using the EPA”s latest “adjusted” standards).
See here, if you don’t believe me.
Today, the only new car that can match that mileage is a Toyota Prius hybrid – the least expensive version of which – the 2013 Prius C – has a sticker price of $18,950 in current Fed Funny Money. So, you’ll pay nearly twice as much to go about as far on a gallon of gas. (Actually, more than that, because it takes about three times the quantity of Fed Funny Money to buy a gallon today vs. back in 1990.)
If Uncle really gave a damn about us – as opposed to increasing his power over us - don’t you think he’d encourage more cars like the Metro? Wouldn’t they “reduce our dependence on foreign oil”? Wouldn’t they contribute less to “global warming” by dint of converting less gasoline into carbon dioxide?
Well?
In fact, Uncle has done everything conceivable to take such cars off the road. To make them an impossibility. He has legislated – and regulated – them out of existence. There is nothing comparable to the Metro available new today, nor has there been for at least a decade. Why? Did affordable economical cars (as distinct from today’s hybrid cars) suddenly become unsaleable? Or did government make them impossible to sell?
Consider:
For the entire history of the automobile, from the Model T to the modern era, there were always cheap little cars that got great gas mileage (in relative and real terms). In the deco era of the roaring ’20s, Blue Light Special Model Ts mingled with Cords and Auburns. In the ’50s, Power Pack dual quad 283 Bel Airs and monstrous Cadillacs shared the road with Nash Metropolitans. In the ’60s, there were agile little Corvairs among the mighty muscle cars – and by the ’70s, Beetles (and Datsun B210s and Civic CVCCs) were literally everywhere.
As recently as the ’90s, cars like the Metro abounded. There was the Honda Civic CRX – capable of 52 MPG on the highway (47 MPG, adjusted by the EPA to reflect current measuring methods). The 43 MPG Ford Festiva. The 45 MPG Mercury Lynx. There were literally dozens of them, all makes and models.
Now, they’re all gone.
And the only way to save money on gas is to spend a lot of it on a new hybrid.
A hybrid is expensive because it has to be. You’re paying for two powertrains instead of just the one. A normal gas engine to keep the batteries topped off, plus electric motors and all the stuff associated with their operation. Of course this results in a car that is also heavy as well as expensive. The Prius C – lightest of all current hybrids – weighs 2,500 lbs. The 1990 Geo Metro weighed 1,620 lbs. It’s an inescapable law of physics that you need more and more power to move more and more mass. Thus, the “efficient” Prius C is propelled by a 1.5 liter four cylinder engine – while the almost 1,000 lbs. lighter Metro was able to get around (and get around just as quickly) with a three cylinder, 1.0 liter engine.
cont... http://ericpetersautos.com/2012/10/30/50-mpg-then-and-now/ (http://ericpetersautos.com/2012/10/30/50-mpg-then-and-now/)
The average annual wage in 1990 was $21,027.98 verses the average annual wage in 2011, which was $42,979.61.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/27/jeb-bush-hammers-teachers-unions-education-summit/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/27/jeb-bush-hammers-teachers-unions-education-summit/)
“We have a system to reward teachers that’s based on an industrialized, unionized model that is completely inappropriate for the 21st century,” Mr. Bush continued. “There are incredibly fine teachers that get paid less even though they’re doing the Lord’s work consistently over time, and there are teachers that are mediocre that get paid more because they’ve been there longer.”
do you make twice what you made in 1990? nice!!
My figures were taken from government statistics, not personal records. Actually, I think I make more than twice today then what I made in 1990. Here is the link: http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/awidevelop.html
oh, brother ::)
No country can match Canada when it comes to smug self-righteousness.
government slants stats you know this? yes?
government says no inflation, you know this yes?
the purchasing power of most americans had gone down due to obama
1. I doubt government could successfully "slant" these figures since they are fairly easy to check using other sources....yes? http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-pci.htm
2. If the purchasing power has gone down, I don't think you can attribute it to President Obama because wages have stagnated since before the economy crashed and that happened before Obama was in office. $21,000 has the same purchasing power as $36,000 in 2011. http://146.142.4.24/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=21000&year1=1990&year2=2011
3. Government isn't solely responsible for inflation or a recession, such is what we've been experiencing the last several years. You do understand the a recession is the opposite of inflation, don't you? Inflation normally happens during good financial times....Yes? http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Articles/Inflation_and_Recession.asp
woa not so fast
listen up:
John Allisonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Allison_IV
He is a major contributor to the Ayn Rand Institute and assigned Rand's Atlas Shrugged to all of his senior executives. Calling Atlas Shrugged "the best defense of capitalism ever written," Allison has seen to it that "the BB&T Charitable Foundation has given 25 colleges and universities several million dollars to start programs devoted to the study of Rand's books and economic philosophy."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Allison_IV
Just want to be sure some of the less informed folk here understand from where John's beliefs and opinions come. Not saying that this is a good thing or bad; just saying.
just amazing this fiscal cliff bullshit
debt is caused by spending more than you take in!!!!
cut spending!!!
Cutting spending alone won't solve the problem. For this to work, spending would have to be cut drastically and that would cause other problems.
As a nation, we have become dependent on social programs (I think the term benefits is more appropriate that entitlements) such as, SSI, SSD, Medicare and Medicaid. These programs are funded through taxation. Employees and employers pay these taxes including all those who are self employed. These programs have been in place for decades. This means a nation of people have come to depend on them and to expect that they will be there when needed. This expectation is not unrealistic considering most of us have made a pretty good investment in these benefits over the course of our working lives.
Additionally, because SSI, SSD, Medicare, Medicaid and Financial Assistance are guaranteed to those who qualify, this has taken away some of the burden of families and friends helping or caring for one another. Medicare and Medicaid as well as health insurance have helped facilitate the high cost of medical care. To be fair, so has the ability to treat illness that a few decades ago, people simply died from.
One analogy might be that these benefits have made many people similar to domesticated dogs. Most canines today are completely dependent on their owners for survival. If said owner decided to cut expenses by letting their dog loose on the world, many would refuse to leave and most would not survive. By feeding and taking care of all of the needs of these little puppies since they were born, we have made them completely dependent on us. One difference is the puppies did not pay into this plan, unless you consider unconditional love payment, but we humans have paid for our benefits and continue to do so.
Human nature is such that those who don't need benefits now, don't appreciate the value of them and resent those who do need them. For example, if you are young and healthy, you may not see any reason for health insurance. Further if you are of working age, particularly if you are younger, you probably cannot imagine a time when you are no longer able to work and might need SSI to help you get by. One way to prove this point is to look at how few young people save or invest on their own any of their current income so it will be there to provide for them when they are old. It is no wonder they don't like paying into SSI and Medicare. Heck, most young people don't even believe they will ever get old or sick....but most will at some point in time.
If these programs need to be reduced to balance the budget, this must be done prospectively. People live longer today then they did several decades ago. They are also, for the most part healthier and can work longer. Adjusting the age for SSI and Medicare accordingly may be one fair way to reduce the expense of these programs. Some of this has already occurred as the retirement age for SSI has increased over the years. SSI should be there for those who have reached an age when they are no longer able to work or are as productive as they might be when they were younger. Medicare or some other medical insurance plan should be available to those who cannot get or afford other insurance plans.
I doubt most citizens of the U.S. are willing to scrap all social programs. If this were to happen, people would be dying in the streets much as they do in third world countries.
Cutting spending alone won't solve the problem. For this to work, spending would have to be cut drastically and that would cause other problems.
As a nation, we have become dependent on social programs (I think the term benefits is more appropriate that entitlements) such as, SSI, SSD, Medicare and Medicaid. These programs are funded through taxation. Employees and employers pay these taxes including all those who are self employed. These programs have been in place for decades. This means a nation of people have come to depend on them and to expect that they will be there when needed. This expectation is not unrealistic considering most of us have made a pretty good investment in these benefits over the course of our working lives.
Additionally, because SSI, SSD, Medicare, Medicaid and Financial Assistance are guaranteed to those who qualify, this has taken away some of the burden of families and friends helping or caring for one another. Medicare and Medicaid as well as health insurance have helped facilitate the high cost of medical care. To be fair, so has the ability to treat illness that a few decades ago, people simply died from.
One analogy might be that these benefits have made many people similar to domesticated dogs. Most canines today are completely dependent on their owners for survival. If said owner decided to cut expenses by letting their dog loose on the world, many would refuse to leave and most would not survive. By feeding and taking care of all of the needs of these little puppies since they were born, we have made them completely dependent on us. One difference is the puppies did not pay into this plan, unless you consider unconditional love payment, but we humans have paid for our benefits and continue to do so.
Human nature is such that those who don't need benefits now, don't appreciate the value of them and resent those who do need them. For example, if you are young and healthy, you may not see any reason for health insurance. Further if you are of working age, particularly if you are younger, you probably cannot imagine a time when you are no longer able to work and might need SSI to help you get by. One way to prove this point is to look at how few young people save or invest on their own any of their current income so it will be there to provide for them when they are old. It is no wonder they don't like paying into SSI and Medicare. Heck, most young people don't even believe they will ever get old or sick....but most will at some point in time.
If these programs need to be reduced to balance the budget, this must be done prospectively. People live longer today then they did several decades ago. They are also, for the most part healthier and can work longer. Adjusting the age for SSI and Medicare accordingly may be one fair way to reduce the expense of these programs. Some of this has already occurred as the retirement age for SSI has increased over the years. SSI should be there for those who have reached an age when they are no longer able to work or are as productive as they might be when they were younger. Medicare or some other medical insurance plan should be available to those who cannot get or afford other insurance plans.
I doubt most citizens of the U.S. are willing to scrap all social programs. If this were to happen, people would be dying in the streets much as they do in third world countries.
on the contrary
cutting spending would absolutly solve the problem
Yep. It worked great in the Uk
Why are the tax payers supposed to get the bill for sandy?
Don't these people have home insurance?
What the hell do you for insurance for if the insurance never covers you?
Sandy blasts $80B hole through debt talks
By Erik Wasson - 11/28/12 03:53 PM ET
Obama raising taxes is not going to help cut the deficit.
cutting spending will
you have a deficit due to overspending
same as your kid and her creditcard
Its tuff, and all the more reason for mass produced housing
the faster hosues are commdoified like a dektop computer
then faster this kinda thing is cheaper to bounce back from
All the 30million unemplyed could be used for the factories
economic boom
and people could get used to using stocks or other assets not land as store of value
which is archaic
Obama raising taxes is not going to help cut the deficit.
cutting spending will
you have a deficit due to overspending
same as your kid and her creditcard
Do you remember what your fellow John Allison said about housing? "Housing is a commodity," he said.
What manner of mass produced housing do you propose that can withstand hurricane force winds, severe flooding and possibly even fires? Most of today's mass produced pre-fab housing is sub-standard construction. Higher end factory built housing, such as Glidehouse http://www.bluhomes.com/homes/glidehouse/#http://www.bluhomes.com/wp-content/uploads/gl-p-WA-10-0014-xxxx-ext-096e-590x443.jpg (http://www.bluhomes.com/homes/glidehouse/#http://www.bluhomes.com/wp-content/uploads/gl-p-WA-10-0014-xxxx-ext-096e-590x443.jpg) are actually more expensive then many stick built homes.
sure it will
Using your simplistic example you could go out and get an extra job or work more hours at work and RAISE your revenue and use that new revenue to pay down your debt
I think you are missing what causes the debt: government overspending.
If you lower government spending people are better off and the economy imporves.
Government spends the money wastefully and get nothing to show for it.
no doubt there are spending cuts to be made but we can also raise revenue as well
nothing magical about either one
the printing money is an old trick
its so seductive to politicians because you spend without raising taxes
rome fell due to it
I do not want USA to
USA best example of capitalism
of success outside the governmetn quagmire
fdr didnt get taht the success after the war was because war spending stopped
fed caused great depression
fed causes boom bust
2008 caused by fed and fannie with clinton law you must give poor default guy a loan not wall st
cut governmetn 20% as canada did in 90s and debt reased in 5 years
if you spend 10 and make 15 and owe 20 soon things ok right?
Your inability to formulate coherent, logical thoughts and express them cogently is stunning. I am genuinely puzzled as to how you can manage to operate - hell, how you can even maintain homeostasis - if your brain generates output like that in your posts.
You sound like a ignorant egomaniacal 10 year old lecturing a theater full of college grads.
Your task is to simply read the clear plain english I write.
You don't like it so you squak.
There isn't much intelligence to be found in a theater full of college grads. I know because I've taught at a University.
LOL...
The irony is that what little bit comes through the nonsense-soup is often stuff that I agree with.
Don't be a broken record, Magikusar. Rather then simply repeating your chant, how about offering some suggestions on where government spending should be cut, including any possible fallout from these cuts. By comparing government overspending to a child with a credit card, you are definitely oversimplifying the situation. For example if it were so simple, the solution would be to simply cancel the "credit card."
Incidentally, President Obama does not have the authority to raise taxes; Congress does. Congress isn't talking about raising taxes per se. What they will be discussing is whether or not to allow tax breaks, which have been in place for some time, to lapse completely or whether to make adjustments, so that some of these tax breaks continue for an additional period of time.
What did you teach?
It is no suprise you are an academic.
My posts are in plain english, if you have trouble accepting the ideas, well thats because you are a communist, most likely, and government schools have miseducated you.
When you sober up, reread some the your recent posts here and then tell everyone they are written in plain English. You are like the crazy person who insists that everyone else is crazy and not them. We all see your erratic posting as utter nonsense and largely unintelligible while you suggest it is all of us who somehow do not understand plain English. Incidentally there are no such words as miseducated, thats or suprise and English is always capitalized, Mr. plain English.
What did you teach?
It is no suprise you are an academic.
My posts are in plain english, if you have trouble accepting the ideas, well thats because you are a communist, most likely, and government schools have miseducated you.
Computer Science and Mathematics.
It's not? It was a surprise to me to be teaching University-level classes!
Your posts are semi-coherent ramblings full of misspellings and plagued by bad or non-existent grammar. As a result they are tiring and difficult to read.
As for being a communist... LOL. Me? A communist?! What a joke. I'm about as far from a communist as one can possibly be. But hey, you shouldn't let facts gets in the way of invective.
As a side note: I find it extremely ironic that some here felt the need for a new rule against personal attacks (that is for calling liars liars) but those same people see no need for a rule against incoherent no-content nonsense and deleterious rhetoric that does nothing to promote civilized and rational discussion.
I reccomend a few hours on youtube watching Milton Friedman, Tom Woods, and Peter Schiff.
What Milton Friedman, Tom Woods, and Peter Schiff advocate has been proven by the history of the "Gilded Age" to be disastrous for most of the population...
Also the success of the "New Deal" in fostering a burgeoning Middle class and thus enriching America is undeniable...that is until the Reagan administration under the guise of "deregulation" began to get the "ducks in a row" for the plutocratic hegemony to engage in the engorged feeding frenzy that they enjoyed the past three decades.
What is best for most is a "Mixed Economy".
New deal and FDR were terrible for avg joe and middle class, and ramped up government intervention, destroying billions is wealth.We know. You told us already.
FDR caused the great depression nuff said. Without his intervention depression woulda not be great, woulda been 1 year done.
Same misakes as obama.
Yet you wonder why debt skyrockets yes 30mil + unemplyed??
Only government can cause such ruin.
2008 was primary caused by government influence. Youtube john allison he explains it very clearly.
You you be banned for personal insults.
Save them they bore me.
Stick to the issues.
Government spending needs to be cut by at least 50% to improve the economy.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/28/Obama-top-advisors-90-percent-white-male (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/28/Obama-top-advisors-90-percent-white-male)
Even as the media complains that Republican House officials have installed males at the top of their committees, it ignores the fact that President Obama’s senior advisors are almost entirely white males. The only top advisor who is a female or minority is Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s longtime maternal figure. Other top advisors include Vice President Joe Biden, Senior Advisor David Plouffe, Chief of Staff Jack Lew, National Security Advisor Tom Donilon, and Press Secretary Jay Carney.
What Milton Friedman, Tom Woods, and Peter Schiff advocate has been proven by the history of the "Gilded Age" to be disastrous for most of the population...
Also the success of the "New Deal" in fostering a burgeoning Middle class and thus enriching America is undeniable...that is until the Reagan administration under the guise of "deregulation" began to get the "ducks in a row" for the plutocratic hegemony to engage in the engorged feeding frenzy that they enjoyed the past three decades.
What is best for most is a "Mixed Economy".
Prime sounds like you need a drink. I have not had one since saturday. You sound jittery man, and a little hysterical.
The ignorance of history here is amazing.
There is a system that always fails and was tried in 19th century.
Socialism
Capitalism in the brief period it was semi allow made USA no1 very quickly
It also made hong kong grow into a major economy in just 30 years which is arguable a better example, and all hong kong had was a 15% flat tax.
I can only imagine if we had only 1 tax in USA a 15% flat tax.
WOW
the economic growth would be staggering.
No more IRS.
All this confidence you have in a mixed economy is myth.
unions hurt wages, henry ford proved them wrong again and again but thsi is ignored
FDR caused great depression by making government spending go up.
After ww2 the grwoth was due to gov spending going down 65% after war spending stopped.
This is the kind of jump we could have now if we cut government 65%!
Guess how many women in the Republican controlled House were appointed to chair committees?
Hint- the number and the percentage are both the same figure
Bonus points if you can guess the gender and race of all committee chairmen
As if thats a bad thing considering the demos are filled w leeches, scammers, parasites, locusts, criminals, thugs, and punks like Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Luis Guitierezz, Loretta Sanchez, Alcee Hastings, John Conyers, etc?Isnt that how you feel about every single person in Congress
Isnt that how you feel about every single person in Congress
Yes
it must suck to be so filled with irrational hatred for so many people
Sorry - i ave nothing but complete contempt for the criminals in the govt who are destroying this country.
Cutting government spending will fix all this.
I at times try to sit down and observe things to understand democrats.
I can understand a few things.
There is inequality.
Some CEO makes 100million while worker get 50k, and after tax, 40k
So if you see history are a struggle for workers to simply be paid more equally, I can understand voting democrat.
I struggle with this ideologically, honestly.
If for example Obama care said ok we are going to build 5 new hospitals in each state. The hospitals like public schools will be funded by the feds. Private hospitals can compete all they want.
We are also going to pay to train 100 doctors for each hospital. We will negotiate liek a giant fund for equipment etc.
I mean here I could see something good being done with the tax money.
To a certain extent I could see this with trains as well.
I am going to skip any negative ideas that pop up and move on.
Same with housing. Government could say ok we are going find a cheap dome house design, and build say x number of them and sell them for profit. This is in competition with whatever is already around.
I can understand the democrat view.
You are tired of CEO getting 100mil while common man is left with jack.
I am kind of emotionaly mulling this over now.
No I am not drunk.
To a certain extent I could see this with trains as well.
I am going to skip any negative ideas that pop up and move on.
Same with housing. Government could say ok we are going find a cheap dome house design, and build say x number of them and sell them for profit. This is in competition with whatever is already around.
I think the tek is here.
Its getting housing made that seems to be the trouble.
cheap
without huge prices and massive loans
I do think if you work from 9 to 1 at wal mart you dont deserve that much.
yes the people in factories should make way more, as they create the goods, once given amtierial machines and other capital, which are far more important than thier labor which is msotly unskilled
I think manufacturing should coem abck to USA and massive import taxes could be a way to get rid of deficits.
This does not solve the problem of what governmetn spending money on.
16,000 irs agents for obama care is silly
thats a power grab not an addition to the supply of the needed good: medical care
obama care should trains 100s of docs per state and build a hospital per I dunno 100k people or something
THAT would HELP the supply
makign thing plentiful lowers the prices
the tek is already here, its the looting without producing that needs to stop and yes the inequality of loot distribution
Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, says he “burst into laughter” Thursday when Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner outlined the administration proposal for averting the fiscal cliff. He wasn’t trying to embarrass Geithner, McConnell says, only responding candidly to his one-sided plan, explicit on tax increases, vague on spending cuts.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mcconnell-burst-laughter-geithner-outlined-obamas-plan_664210.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mcconnell-burst-laughter-geithner-outlined-obamas-plan_664210.html)
mcconnel needs some cardio
http://www.newsmax.com/US/gutfeld-joy-hate-media/2012/11/29/id/465889 (http://www.newsmax.com/US/gutfeld-joy-hate-media/2012/11/29/id/465889)
duh
The mainstream media has a double standard in how it treats figures on the left and right, showing favoritism to liberals, says Greg Gutfeld, author of the new book, “The Joy of Hate: How to Triumph over the Whiners in the Age of Phony Outrage.”
Many people “who claim to be open-minded are only open-minded until they meet somebody who they disagree with,” he tells John Bachman of Newsmax TV. “You see this most amongst the left. . . . Every day there is a new example of the left shouting at the right about something while ignoring their inadequacies and their own idiocy.”
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/US/gutfeld-joy-hate-media/2012/11/29/id/465889#ixzz2DgPMLGge
Sounds like a good deal
Repubs will regret not taking it
McConnell needs a bullet.
McConnell needs a bullet.
McConnell needs a bullet.
Sending to DHS.
Have fun w that buddy.
Most of Congress as well.
Actually, let us not waste precious resources, a nice hit with a claw hammer will do.
Sounds like a good deal
Repubs will regret not taking it
Most of Congress as well.
Actually, let us not waste precious resources, a nice hit with a claw hammer will do.
I guess when Obama said he would go line by line of budget spending and make cuts in 2008 he lied? Can't believe people voted for him for another 4 years. ::)
if Obama gets what he wants he is going to get what 100 billion a year?
We are running a deficit of over 1 Trillion!
Only an idiot would buy into the lies of obama on this.
And how exactly are they doing to do that?
?
I don't know what your question is but here is what I think will happen
Repubs won't take Obama's deal an on Jan 1 taxes get raised on EVERYONE and mandatory spending cuts to into effect
This will be seen by the public as being caused by Repubs
Obama now has more leverage than before and Repubs will have to scramble to agree to tax cuts for those below 250k and the spending cuts on things Repubs don't want to cut will be in effect and they will have to negotiate from an even worse disadvantage at that point than they have now
This is all predicated upon the Repubs being as recalcitrant and frankly as stupid as they have always been
Some Repubs are starting to peel off from the crowd and indicate they actually feel more loyal to their country and their constituents than they do to Grover Norquist so maybe the Boner will get enough votes to avoid this scenario. We'll know soon enough
if Obama gets what he wants he is going to get what 100 billion a year?
We are running a deficit of over 1 Trillion!
Only an idiot would buy into the lies of obama on this.
I hope the GOP walks away and leaves O-Crook w the entire mess to deal with on his own.
More taxes and more spending? Sounds like a solid solution.
I'm shocked that we don't at least get any phantom phoney "spending cuts" that will never be enacted.
where's the "more spending" coming from and if there is more spending as long as it's doesn't add to the deficit (i.e. paid for with new revenue) then who cares. Just "spending" without specifics doesn't really tell us anything. What if the new spending was infrastructure and it was revenue neutral by either being offset by spending cuts somewhere else or paid for with new revenue
So keeping the deficit at 1 trillion+ is OK?
And deficit neutral is another garbage term, the revenues won't be what is projected and the spending will be more than projected and we will yet again kick the can down th road.
I'm not a "you can't ever raise taxes" guy, I just see this plan as an opening salvo in the negotiations. Obama said he wanted a balanced approach and the Republicans said they were open to a revenue increase....they need to put their money their mouth is.
I won't hold my breath.
no, that has to come down but I like how you already know that revenues won't be as projected and spending will be more
how exactly do you know that. It seems like you must have specific details and proof so please share
As far as I know there are been no agreement on anything yet
how do you feel about just "going over the cliff so to speak"
your taxes will go up ~ 3% and you'll get large spending cuts
would that balance be acceptable to you ?
I assume so
I can make an educated guess. Those projections are always rosey and the spending will be based on those projections. Sure they can be spot on but I'll bet against that outcome every time. Dont be so naive.
When it. Comes to taxes the bottom 90% we haven't seen any wage increases in 30 or so years so our taxes are just fine. The top top 10% have seen all the wage increases yet their federal rates have gone down...I'm not blind to that. But you can hike taxes all you want but it alone won't solve the problem. Again Obama said he wants a balanced approached and the Republicans have said they are open to the same....time to keep their respective words.
A's for the cliff I'm good with not going over it but if doing that is what it takes to get the general populace to pay some motherfucking attention to what is going on....so be it.
who controls spending
A question like that means you're seeing trees and missing forests.
I hope the GOP walks away and leaves O-Crook w the entire mess to deal with on his own.
I wish they would too....if they did, they would not be elected again for 20 years
I guess when Obama said he would go line by line of budget spending and make cuts in 2008 he lied? Can't believe people voted for him for another 4 years. ::)
I hope the GOP walks away and leaves O-Crook w the entire mess to deal with on his own.
Too bad we can't stop paying the interest on the debt accumulated by Bush
Too bad we can't stop paying the interest on the debt accumulated by Bush
::) ::) So lets keep accumulsting debt right?no let's default and of course also slash spending which will do wonders for our economy
no let's default and of course also slash spending which will do wonders for our economy
Are taxes going up on the middle class? those that net around 30-50 grand a year?
Are taxes going up on the middle class? those that net around 30-50 grand a year?
there is no reason to vote democrat I have decided
vote republcain
Yes.
How much do you make a year ,Falcon?
I want to go off the cliff so obama can get the blame and it all crashes.
Such a good, patriotic American! You would never put a politician above your country, would you?
screw larry ellison!!
and replace all micrsoft and mac with openbsd and icewm!! with firefox!
www.postgresql.org
www.openbsd.org
bing icewm
We need to bottom out.
Bring on the cliff and F Obama and his cabal of radical leftists and thugs.
Well, if you say so...
How will the cliff help, exactly?
and crashing all competition with penalties and lawyer
poor and middle calss nuked by this guy
vote republican
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50229 (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50229)
by how much exactly?
Are taxes going up on the middle class? those that net around 30-50 grand a year?
Force us to deal with the mathematical facts of our mess, not Obamas Kenyan math where 80 billion a year in tax hikes is a responsible way to deal w trillion dollar deficit yearly.
Well, if you say so...
How will the cliff help, exactly?
The cliff is a self imposed debt limit. Instead of dealing with it, however, congress chickens out and kicks the can down the road. Each time this is done, it only ensures that the problem will get bigger and bigger and be even more difficult to contend with. The real cliff will be when the world stops lending the U.S money.
President Obama wants to raise taxes on anyone making over $250,000.
I want to go off the cliff so obama can get the blame and it all crashes.
The cliff is a self imposed debt limit. Instead of dealing with it, however, congress chickens out and kicks the can down the road. Each time this is done, it only ensures that the problem will get bigger and bigger and be even more difficult to contend with. The real cliff will be when the world stops lending the U.S money.
OpenBSD? Really? I think OpenBSD is a great secure O/S, but I didn't think you'd be one of the people who gargle Theo's balls.
the "cliff" is the spending cuts which neither party wants but which I believe Obama will let happen in the short run if necessary
Again, not entirely accurate: the cliff represents the point in time at which the already passed measures become effective, which will happen unless Congress and the White House can come to some sort of understanding. As for whether it happens (and who is to blame for it) I'll wait and see what happens. Personally, I think it's likely that they will not reach a compromise, or if they do, it will be a last-second "extension" to give them more time.
But the question still remains: how will those two things help improve the precarious fiscal situation that the United States is currently in? The spending cuts won't help address the issue of the deficit and the tax hikes won't help the economy improve.
Great. I'm not sure announcing your decision on the subject is necessary; just don't vote democrat and be done with it. If you need a reminder, maybe make a note on your fancy Moleskin notebook?
I refuse to vote for Republicans because I refuse to support those who shit on science and rationality, choosing instead to promote religious myths and rely on faith. Just like I refuse to vote for Democrats because I refuse to support those who think that their ends justify the seizure of my means.
When it comes right down to it, both parties are dominated by people who not only fancy themselves authorities who know how others are to live their lives, but are giddy with glee at the prospect of being able to force compliance at the point of the Government's proverbial gun.
Sorry, I won't vote (R) anymore than I will vote (D). I just like freedom way too much.
manwhile all the applied science in USA is created by republican engineers funded by republican CEO and MBA in activebusinesses, sigh
He's also going to Fuck the middleclass. There is no way around it.
President Obama wants to raise taxes on anyone making over $250,000.
How is he going to do that?
just an emotional reaction I guess
Even if all of that were true (hint: it's not) what does this have to do with the Republicans who are on the ballot, and their political positions and beliefs?
The original was freakin awesome.
The remake like conan totally blows chunks.
I am with trump, lets raise import taxes on china and japan goods.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_UtAM7dzUW_Q/S8t7eVnZ09I/AAAAAAAAABw/wfFToy3cs5E/s1600/donald-trump.jpg)
remember NASA is nothing but an overpaid burocracy :)
vote republican to reduce money going to proven failures liek green energy just to line the pockets fo doofus obama campaign donors who then fire everyoen after 6 months and call it a day: 90B n counting of that sofar
how many doctors could be trained for 90,000,000,000 dollarS?
and yes almost all applied science is made by enginerrs and MBA businessmen who vote republican nonstop
thanks
no comment on the import tax idea?I'm for tariffs being imposed on products from China. Not so much for Japan. Japan isn't the problem, China is.
obsessed schmoe style with the combover eh?
Perhaps, but many of the advances in technology we take for granted today come from NASA and the Space program in general. And frankly, I'd much rather see my tax dollars fund NASA than just about any other part of the Federal government. Hell, I'd gladly donate money to NASA.
I see no evidence that voting Republican would have any impact on this; the particular projects may differ and the names on the check may change, but the memo line will always read the same: "PORK".
I don't think it's the job of the government to train doctors - so whether 90,000,000,000 can train one thousand or ten thousand doctors is irrelevant. It's a red herring.
Repeating an unproven assertion won't magically make it true and doesn't count as proof. You are welcome to provide specifics that prove your assertion if you can get them. But I won't hold my breath, because (a) there is no such evidence and (b) even if there was you never provide evidence to back up the word salad you throw around the boards with remarkable regularity.
You're welcome.
no comment on the import tax idea?
obsessed schmoe style with the combover eh?
You sound like low iq.
You need to argue some points.
Communism has proven a failure time and time again.
The inequality you hate is caused by the very democrats like Obama you vote for.
Obama has a goldman sachs guy named geithner as treasurer.
!!!
Fed is giving money not to poor but to rich banks.
bailouts to run of 4T went to same banks.
and repeatedly avoiding the issues is not an arguement
Nader is desperate to have people remember who he is
btw - why would this be on Breitbart since the douchebags who run that site (the fat, drunken dipshit who started the site) probably agree with every single thing drone strike if it were a Republican POTUS
Really!? Thanks for letting me know. You see, I thought it was a term that referred to a law that has already been passed and which is scheduled to go into effect shortly, resulting in tax increases and drastic spending cuts across the board. It's so good to know I was wrong! ::)
After such a schooling, I feel almost silly to ask you to also explain how anything that you said actually answers my question, which was "how will actually going off the "Fiscal Cliff" help in improving the precarious economic situation of our country?"
It doesn't? Oh, ok.
The film Red Dawn featured invading North Koreans with their Russian allies.......not the Chinese(although it was originally penned that way).There are plenty of Americans who want manufacturing jobs. The manufactuing industry was torn out of America in a very short time period in respect to our nation's history. There are plenty of people wanting those jobs back. I don't know what the fuck you're thinking.
And since when did Americans all of a sudden want a bunch of manufacturing jobs? Do they really want to stand up in a factory all day doing the exact same thing for 8 hours a day? Let the SE Asians do all that stuff. Thanks to cheap overseas manufacturing, we can buy electronics, phones, toys, and clothes at rock bottom prices. I sure as hell wouldn't want to pay twice the amount just so Trailer-Park Terry can have a job stamping something day in and day out.
Raising import taxes will hurt American consumers way more than it will hurt China.It won't hurt consumers in the long run. We did just fine before we started exporting labor for goods and they have reaped the fucking benefit to the max. It's time that we start backing off on the 20 years of what is pure good will to level the playing field a bit.
Obama is for the nigs
and crashing all of them with kale greens
poor and middle calss nuked by this black bean burrito
vote republican
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50229
He's also going to Fuck the middleclass. There is no way around it.Sorry. The MC started getting squeezed during Reagan's tenure. It is too late for any kind of income recovery. Game over.
There are plenty of Americans who want manufacturing jobs. The manufactuing industry was torn out of America in a very short time period in respect to our nation's history. There are plenty of people wanting those jobs back. I don't know what the fuck you're thinking.
Sorry. The MC started getting squeezed during Reagan's tenure.Sorry, the MC started getting squeezed during Reagan's tenure. It is too late for any kind of income recovery. Game over.
Freedom? Here in the US? Gimme a break.
- By far the highest incarceration rates for its populace than any other nation in the world.
- Thousands of laws on the books that can land you in jail.
- All citizens under constant surveillance.
- A negative credit report or criminal history, however minor, can easily deny you a job, school or a loan.
F- Political correctness. Sure, you CAN say anything, but be prepared to lose your job, income, and reputation.
- Federal law, State law, County law, local ordinances, homeowner associations....too many blankets and layers of laws, ordinances, regulations, and rules.
It won't hurt consumers in the long run. We did just fine before we started exporting labor for goods and they have reaped the fucking benefit to the max. It's time that we start backing off on the 20 years of what is pure good will to level the playing field a bit.
and crashing all competition with penalties and lawyer
poor and middle calss nuked by this guy
vote republican
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50229 (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50229)
President Obama wants to raise taxes on anyone making over $250,000.
How Obama says he wants to raise taxes on the wealthy, then says $250k is laughable. $250k For a family is not wealthy, it is middle class in most of Cali. Fuck, in the poorest country in the world $250k is not wealthy.
Wealthy is 8 figures a year.
no it's not, do you understand percentages, how is 250k which is in the top 3% nationally not wealthy?
the stupidity in this thread is too much. Coach saying he posted it "somewhere" just trust him, you know the guy who can't be trusted. The guy with twenty ex wives, forty two accounts a dozen lost and reneged bets.
The guy who believes the earth is six thousand years old, evolution and global warming are lies and accepts the bible literally. Facts have no bearing on his life.
Great comeback douchbag. Except for this debacle of an "election" I have been very far off in this four years this asshole has been in office. Here ya go kool aid boy....
http://www.heritage.org/research/projects/taxmageddon-interactive-map
Stop pretending there's a difference between Republicans and Democrates. Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. all grew the government and had open borders. Some of you people obviously don't know how high the income tax rates were in this country over the past century. Hell, if the top rate were 50%(which it isn't) the rates would still be lower than what some of your great granddads were paying.
no it's not, do you understand percentages, how is 250k which is in the top 3% nationally not wealthy?
One, it's how much you NET, not how much you gross.
Two, who cares if it's wealthy. Why do some people think they have the right to other people's money, especially when the issue is excessive SPENDING on the government's part?
One, it's how much you NET, not how much you gross.Bingo. They are claiming that these taxes will bring in $20 billion a year. Big fucking deal. They can cut $100 billion a year in military spending without anyone noticing. Bring the military down from $800 billion to $600 billion. Problem solved.
Two, who cares if it's wealthy. Why do some people think they have the right to other people's money, especially when the issue is excessive SPENDING on the government's part?
Bingo. They are claiming that these taxes will bring in $20 billion a year. Big fucking deal. They can cut $100 billion a year in military spending without anyone noticing. Bring the military down from $800 billion to $600 billion. Problem solved.
Military spending is absurd.
why are you against the rich paying the say percentage of income as a middle class family? do you think they take that money and hire people with it? I can tell you they do not, they save it, store it offshore, put it in the bottom line. Why the fuck would anyone hire more people to do a job less people can do?
none of this trickle down bullshit makes any sense.
you have literally no idea what any of this means. We know you are a simpleton. You still think the election was rigged, that romney would win in a landslide etc. etc. you are a walking mis-information bot.
Military spending is absurd.
why are you against the rich paying the say percentage of income as a middle class family? do you think they take that money and hire people with it? I can tell you they do not, they save it, store it offshore, put it in the bottom line. Why the fuck would anyone hire more people to do a job less people can do?
none of this trickle down bullshit makes any sense.
But a family making $250k is NOT rich. That is what I am arguing. Where they came up with this number is absurd. In Cali making $259k as a family might allow you to live in an overpriced $600k home, have two cars and no savings. That is not Wealthy.
do you think the pavement and streets you use fell out of the blue sky one day for free?
do you think the filthy rich organisation which signed my paycheck didnt make sure to take all the advantage in the world on my workforce-labour before doing so?
:D
Nope!
But, half the people in this country didn't pay for those roads and streets. The ones that did paid a disproportionate amount.
So much for all that "fair share" crap.
Do you think a poor person signed your paycheck?
You made a deal with them. You'll perform a particular service for them at their company (I'm sure they paid for your training and education to do that job); they will pay you a certain amount of money and benefits.
They invested in you; OF COURSE, they want to recoup that investment and make a profit.
You seem to think that those paying similar effective rates as the middle class=COMMUNISM. Listen the poor can't afford to help, it would be stupid to suggest across the board equal taxing, this is where logic comes in. Why are families making enough to get by paying more for the roads, police etc that everyone uses, I would argue the rich actually use more of these services.
You seem to think everyone has an equal oppurtunity, they don't, some people are stupid, sick or have bad circumstances. Not everyone can work hard and become rich, it's a lie, most of the rich in this country are rich because of their family, Mittens for example. They are not even suggesting they pay a heavy burden, just similar amounts.
The rich/elite are raping the country, banks,wallstreet and you support them.
I never claimed everyone can become rich. But, it's not due necessarily to lack of opportunity. Sometimes, it's due to bad decisions, which have CONSEQUENCES.
What's a lie is that taking money from those who earn it and giving it to those that don't is going to make everything better. It doesn't matter if Romney inherited his wealth or not (BTW, he started his company almost from scratch, INSTEAD of taking his father's company), IT'S HIS, not yours or anyone else. You aren't entitled to it.
I worked hard to give to my children. Once I give it to THEM, it's THEIRS, not yours or that of any other whiny, entitlement-complex-riddled Obama supporter.
Most of the millionaires in this country are first-generation, to the tune of 75%. If you don't believe me, look at all these famous rappers who seem to love Obama. Jay-Z didn't inherit his money; Ludacris didn't inherit his money. Curtis Jackson almost literally had his nicknames' worth of capital (50 Cent), when he started.
You are of the naive beliefs that the government (also comprised of RICH PEOPLE) are going to "level" the playing field. They will do no such thing. They will simply pad the pockets of those who got them in office.
And YOU support them.
You seem to think that those paying similar effective rates as the middle class=COMMUNISM. Listen the poor can't afford to help, it would be stupid to suggest across the board eoqual taxing, this is where logic comes in. Why are families making enough to get by paying more for the roads, police etc that everyone uses, I would argue the rich actually use more of these services.
You seem to think everyone has an equal oppurtunity, they don't, some people are stupid, sick or have bad circumstances. Not everyone can work hard and become rich, it's a lie, most of the rich in this country are rich because of their family, Mittens for example. They are not even suggesting they pay a heavy burden, just similar amounts.
The rich/elite are raping the country, banks,wallstreet and you support them.
I support a rational tax plan that doesn't allow taxable income to be avoided in some cases and not in others. I support equal treatment not pandering to the rich because the politicians are bought. I don't want your money, I have enough, I simply think this bullshit lie the GOP has obviously entrentched in your head that the rich paying equal percent of income tax is bad or takign their money. What about the middle class worker, aren't you taking their money, they worked hard for it right? The logical extension of your argument is one for all, all for one yet you probably got government back loans, use roads and police officers, enjoy public parks etc such bullshit. It only works if everyone is helping and right now the elite are not, they are raping, romney for example is raping, he has offshore tax havens, why is that fine? he has fake contributions to a bullshit church.
so all for one, one for all MCWAY, well only when it comes to the middle class, let's tax them at 30%.
that's fair, whats not fair is using tax havens,loopholes, paying sub standard wages like wal-mart etc.
it's not black and white unfortunately. ethics has to play a part.
Not sure. I posted a list of tax increases somewhere on here.
Who decides what is "sub-standard" and what isn't?
People don't create businesses to make sure YOU make a living. They do so to make sure THEY make a living.
Coach have you ever thought about moving away from California? Doesn't seem like the kind of state that goes with your ideology. And there State income tax will be 15% before the end of the decade.
Right. Americans won't be hurt if what costs $1.99 today costs $7.99 tomorrow because of duties and tariffs... You are delusional.Yea if you do it overnight dumbass. I never suggested that. ::)
again you seem to think nothing like Jesus, listen to yourself.. walking contradiction.
ya pay employees so little the majority require food stamps, meanwhile wal-mart is making record salary/profit. If everyone took your fend for yourself attitude we would be fucked. Nothing wrong with making money for yourself but the employees who work to ensure you make that money deserve adequete compensation. Those in sweatshops making nike hats deserve a decent cut of the product they helped build. you seem to be against minimum wage, fuck it, I'm here to make money for myself, exploit everyone else.
it's about ethics and personal morals MCWAY. If I have more then enough I will help those without my gifts, it's called altruism, I'm sure I will get the help I need along the way in return.
One, it's how much you NET, not how much you gross. $250K in California is barely middle-class. $250K in Florida goes much further.
Two, who cares if it's wealthy. Why do some people think they have the right to other people's money, especially when the issue is excessive SPENDING on the government's part?
Bingo. They are claiming that these taxes will bring in $20 billion a year. Big fucking deal. They can cut $100 billion a year in military spending without anyone noticing. Bring the military down from $800 billion to $600 billion. Problem solved.
Nope!
But, half the people in this country didn't pay for those roads and streets (They're the main ones, whining about taking other people's money, screaming "fair share"). The ones that did paid a disproportionate amount.
Do you think a poor person signed your paycheck?
There's nothing stopping you from becoming wealthy
You mean the spending that gave your mother food stamps so you are alive today? ::)
Your mother and you was on that half the people list Mcway how do you explain this hypo?
Didn't He say something about "Thou shalt not STEAL" and "Thou shalt not COVET anything that is thy neighbor's"? That seems to be the liberal mindset to the tee.
paying taxes is stealing? I think earning money using tax payer services then hiding said money from rightful taxation is stealing
And when did Jesus state that people shouldn't go into business to make a living FOR THEMSELVES? Chapter and verse would be nice.
jesus never did advocate this, he certainly wasn't for dog eat dog though, in fact he was explicitly against vain and finite ambitions
Good thing you I didn't mention the parable He used about the master, hiring servants for a denarius each (regardless of how long each one worked in his field).....OOPS!!!
When did I say anything about "sweatshops"? I asked you a specific question as to what "substandard" wages were and you come up with this gibberish.
substandard would be wages with which necessities of living could not be afforded within reason. For example if beyond your wage you need food stamps to eat I would suggest your wage is too low.
DEFINE "adequate" with actual numbers and quit using these vague terms. Are you implying that the cashier bagging groceries, with barely a high school diploma, should be making the same wages as the store manager or the computer programmer (with a bachelors' degree)?
of course not, that is absurd. Why do you avoid all my questions and expect me to answer every single one of yours? you just keep pandering around the issue
I thought it was called charity. BTW, I do the same thing (and I don't need Obama and the Dems to pass a law to make me do it, either ;D ). I know; I know. You think it doesn't count, because I give quite a bit via my church. Fortunately, you don't make the rules on giving.
it doesn't count.
What is it with your obsession with food stamps? Yes, my mother used them. But, unlike a good hunk of Obama supporters, my mother used them as they were designed to be utilized: TEMPORARILY, for a few short months.
Forget the 2-3 jobs she worked, to keep me in private school. Forget the chores we did around the apartment complex where we lived, to knock off $50-$100 from the rent (I had to cut the grass and HATED IT).
Nope. It was all about food stamps. ::)
paying taxes is stealing? I think earning money using tax payer services then hiding said money from rightful taxation is stealing
jesus never did advocate this, he certainly wasn't for dog eat dog though, in fact he was explicitly against vain and finite ambitions
substandard would be wages with which necessities of living could not be afforded within reason. For example if beyond your wage you need food stamps to eat I would suggest your wage is too low.
of course not, that is absurd. Why do you avoid all my questions and expect me to answer every single one of yours? you just keep pandering around the issue.
it doesn't count.
“It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Luke 18:25)”
Matthew 25:34-36 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, "Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me."
Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, "You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me." When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Luke 14:12-14 He said also to the one who had invited him, "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."
you seem to have a self-centered view of reality. Instead of admit the help provided to you, you go on about things you did/done. You are completely self made, bravo.
So is excessive taxation (why do you think tax collectors, then and now, are so loathed) especially when the fiscal problem is government spending money like crazed valley girls with their daddies' credit card. But, you don't seem to address that part.
so the fact that taxes are at almost all times lows doesn't factor into your distorted view of reality?
I never claimed that He was. And, I'm not either. Again, you have this warped view that people keeping as much of their HARD-EARNED money as possible is bad. That goes back that covetous entitlement mentality that you have a right to someone else's loot.
I never said this, nice straw man, what I'm suggesting is equality, i pay 50% income tax how could I possibly have this covetous mentatlity?
I'm married with four kids. That doesn't mean that Mickey D's has to pay me nearly six figures to feed my family, if I apply for a job to flip burgers.
no it does not, however, when record profits have been made by major corporations in the last 5-10 years and none of that translates into more jobs or better pay/benefits, something isn't working. Creating massive inequality is not good.
I didn't avoid your questions. But, for some reason, you keep avoiding mine. And they ain't that hard to answer.
As I said before, YOU don't make the rules as to what charity counts and what doesn't.
I know, Churchs are laughable.
I give to food banks, via my church. I help educate kids, through my church, just as people helped me get my education, via the church (In fact, when my mother couldn't afford to pay my high school tuition and I had to leave, my church raised money to help send me BACK).
You missed a verse: "
Funny how you left off the earlier part of that chapter, involving the talents, namely verse 29:
"For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away.
Furthermore, that passage is about PERSONAL attention to those less fortunate, not government-mandated wallet looting via tax hikes.
oh jesus, I'm not going down this road, I'm sorry I started, I can already see the semantic contortions.
Are liberals only able to help the poor, when the government makes them (or it makes good PR)?
Nicodemus had many possessions; Jesus didn't ask him to sell all of his goods. Same goes for Zaccheus, the tax collector (though he gave up some of his good, of his own conviction), Jairus, and the centurion (whose servant Jesus healed).
Jesus encountered multiple rich people; yet asked only ONE to give up all his goods. Care to guess why?
Once again, you're leaving off the background of that verse, starting with the beginning of that chapter. The Pharisees, as usual, were trying to trip Jesus up, so they could accuse Him of blasphemy and have Him executed.
It has ZILCH to do with castigating rich people, or implying that others have the right to their money, simply for having a pulse.
Your interpretation requires subjective opinion, I think Jesus can speak for himself. Not that Jesus was the brighest tool in the shed however.
so the fact that taxes are at almost all times lows doesn't factor into your distorted view of reality?
I never said this, nice straw man, what I'm suggesting is equality, i pay 50% income tax how could I possibly have this covetous mentatlity?
no it does not, however, when record profits have been made by major corporations in the last 5-10 years and none of that translates into more jobs or better pay/benefits, something isn't working. Creating massive inequality is not good.
I know, Churchs are laughable.
oh jesus, I'm not going down this road, I'm sorry I started, I can already see the semantic contortions.
Your interpretation requires subjective opinion, I think Jesus can speak for himself. Not that Jesus was the brighest tool in the shed however.
again you seem to think nothing like Jesus, listen to yourself.. walking contradiction.
ya pay employees so little the majority require food stamps, meanwhile wal-mart is making record salary/profit. If everyone took your fend for yourself attitude we would be fucked. Nothing wrong with making money for yourself but the employees who work to ensure you make that money deserve adequete compensation. Those in sweatshops making nike hats deserve a decent cut of the product they helped build. you seem to be against minimum wage, fuck it, I'm here to make money for myself, exploit everyone else.
it's about ethics and personal morals MCWAY. If I have more then enough I will help those without my gifts, it's called altruism, I'm sure I will get the help I need along the way in return.
So are you voting dem?
They are the only ones who wants to cut the military the GOP wants to increase it.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/chief_other_girl_uULWUcuM7p4tJb2PLeaITP (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/chief_other_girl_uULWUcuM7p4tJb2PLeaITP)
The law currently lets women have a child even if the man does not want it. Often to the selfish financial gain of the girl.
How many deaths and ruined lives are caused by these unnatural laws?
A man should have to sign that he wants the kid.
A man "signs up" for a kid whenever he doesn't wear protection. In most cases, children are a financial expense, not only for the father but also for the mother, even if she gets child support from the father. You'd know how expensive it is to raise a child to adulthood if you had one.
Do not get me wrong; I am not putting all the blame for pregnancy on the man. As best as I know, it takes both a man and a woman to produce offspring. Each party should protect their own interests....IMO.
A man "signs up" for a kid whenever he doesn't wear protection. In most cases, children are a financial expense, not only for the father but also for the mother, even if she gets child support from the father. You'd know how expensive it is to raise a child to adulthood if you had one.
Do not get me wrong; I am not putting all the blame for pregnancy on the man. As best as I know, it takes both a man and a woman to produce offspring. Each party should protect their own interests....IMO.
but you are ok with a woman forcing a man to have a kid he does not want?
wow
just wow
Explain for me how a woman can force a man to have a kid he does not want. Did you mean to say that in some cases women can expect and actually get child support for the kid the man helped produce? Men cannot "have" kids, that is physically not possible.
A woman chooses to get pregnant.
I think a man should have to sign something that he wants the kid. The man owns his sperm.
Letting women simply carry the unwanted preg to baby status then ask for $$ from taxpayer or man when neither wanted the kid she selfishly had is silly.
A woman cannot get pregnant without sperm, either from a donor who deposited it in a test tube or from a donor who deposits it in her vagina during sex with her.
What are you suggesting here? Are you suggesting there be a pregnancy termination squad that goes about terminating pregnancies in women when the men who fathered the child doesn't want it? Tell me how you think this would play out.
BTW, how many unwanted babies have you fathered? Are you paying the freight for these kids?
There is nothing you can say that will convince me or most other rational people that women have all the responsibility in a pregnancy whether it is wanted or not.
Incidentally, there are many men who actually want children. Obviously, you aren't one of them; which might be a good thing. ;D
I think a man should have to sign something that he wants the kid. The man owns his sperm.
I think sterilize all women at 12.
Then b4 baby must have man sign.
simple
You are sinking into that all too familiar hole where you are no longer able to have lucid thoughts.
Here's the thing. If you sterilize all girls before they've become fertile, they can't get pregnant even if the man signs his name in blood or semen.
Simply stupid.
I guess you never heard of reversible sterilization aka tying tubes?
Remember insulting people is bannable now, lets stick to the issues lucidly.
FGM is typically carried out on girls from a few days old to puberty. It may take place in a hospital, but is usually performed, without anesthesia, by a traditional circumciser using a knife, razor, or scissors. According to the WHO, it is practiced in 28 countries in western, eastern, and north-eastern Africa, in parts of the Middle East, and within some immigrant communities in Europe, North America, Australasia. The WHO estimates that 100–140 million women and girls around the world have experienced the procedure, including 92 million in Africa. The practice is carried out by some communities who believe it reduces a woman's libido.
The WHO has offered four classifications of FGM. The main three are Type I, removal of the clitoral hood, almost invariably accompanied by removal of the clitoris itself (clitoridectomy); Type II, removal of the clitoris and inner labia; and Type III (infibulation), removal of all or part of the inner and outer labia, and usually the clitoris, and the fusion of the wound, leaving a small hole for the passage of urine and menstrual blood—the fused wound is opened for intercourse and childbirth. Around 85 percent of women who undergo FGM experience Types I and II, and 15 percent Type III, though Type III is the most common procedure in several countries, including Sudan, Somalia, and Djibouti. Several miscellaneous acts are categorized as Type IV. These range from a symbolic pricking or piercing of the clitoris or labia, to cauterization of the clitoris, cutting into the vagina to widen it (gishiri cutting), and introducing corrosive substances to tighten it.
Did I insult you? I thought I was merely pointing out the obvious.
Here's a thought, how about the U.S. Congress enacts a law requiring female circumcision or FGM much as is done in African and some other places and where a female's vaginal lips are sewn shut so she cannot be penetrated until she marries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation
man female mutilation by savages is not the same as simple reversible tube typing
then simple reversal when a baby is wanted by man as well as woman
think of all the poor singel mosm who would not be sentanced to a life of poverty by an unwanted child they were nto educated enough to prevent
wow
the saving to society would be staggering
and we would nto have NFL players murdering themsvels and their baby momma over unwanted kids and money
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/05/report-north-korea-could-launch-rocket-by-next-week/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/05/report-north-korea-could-launch-rocket-by-next-week/)
As a guy who lives on beach in LA, damn this is worrying.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/norquist-obama-tea-party/2012/12/04/id/466463 (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/norquist-obama-tea-party/2012/12/04/id/466463)
Norquist to Newsmax: Obama Taxing and Spending Will Resurrect Tea Party
Tuesday, 04 Dec 2012 06:58 PM
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Low-tax crusader Grover Norquist tells Newsmax that President Obama’s willingness to allow the country to go over the fiscal cliff could lead to a tea party resurrection.
“Four years ago, Obama misunderstood his mandate. He said everybody’s voted for me and then he turned around and spent $800-plus billion on stimulus spending and then more money and more money and you had a tea party reaction and he lost the House of Representatives and went from 70 percent support to below 50.
“Now we have a situation where the president gets re-elected by a smaller margin, then turns around and says well, everybody’s made me king so you have to do what I want, except in addition to spending too much money, which he did four years ago, he’s now going to have a trillion dollars in tax increases for healthcare. He wants $1.5 trillion on other tax increases.
“And now we have this situation where Obama wants to have a series of regulations showering down on the American people, EPA and OSHA and others, which are very, very expensive and they’re all unpleasant surprises for small businesses.
“The regulations, the taxes and the spending will generate tea party 2.0, much stronger than tea party 1.0 because it’s going to be deeper. It’s not just spending. It’s spending, taxes and regulations.”
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/norquist-obama-tea-party/2012/12/04/id/466463#ixzz2EF2JYzfc
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Can we certify with this last post that your an epic retard. Obama has NO FUCKING PLAN idiot. The plan calls for a $1.6 trillion in tax hikes and 400 billion in cuts...what? Oh and the REPUBS called for a vote in the Senate on it.....nothing heard. Why because its fucking retarded.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/05/report-north-korea-could-launch-rocket-by-next-week/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/05/report-north-korea-could-launch-rocket-by-next-week/)
As a guy who lives on beach in LA, damn this is worrying.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/05/report-north-korea-could-launch-rocket-by-next-week/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/05/report-north-korea-could-launch-rocket-by-next-week/)
As a guy who lives on beach in LA, damn this is worrying.
Judging from their previous launch attempts, you don't have much to worry about.Lol.
(http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/items/9/5/4/4/7/north-korea-rocket-failure-is-illusian.jpg)
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/05/report-north-korea-could-launch-rocket-by-next-week/ (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/05/report-north-korea-could-launch-rocket-by-next-week/)
As a guy who lives on beach in LA, damn this is worrying.
The title of this thread is misleading
Was the intent to mislead or is the poster just unbelievably careless and misinformed ?
Is that a rhetorical question?
Is that a rhetorical question?
So the GOP cries about the deficit and the fiscal cliff but has no plan of fixing it.
Obama comes with a plan that fixes 8% of the annual deficit but the GOP wont do it because it raises taxes on the rich.
The GOP is killing our economy to make the already rich even richer and now they kill of the middleclass.
Im glad actually no everybody can see the republicans true colors.
Quote from: magikusar on December 05, 2012, 08:29:23 PM
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/05/report-north-korea-could-launch-rocket-by-next-week/
As a guy who lives on beach in LA, damn this is worrying.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/03-12-2012/123005-communist_victory_amerika-0/ (http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/03-12-2012/123005-communist_victory_amerika-0/)
Russia in their presidential elections had cameras in every voting station. Anyone could log in and see it. I did it myself. 600,000 Russians volunteered to monitor the Presidential Elections Online. ID and Russian language only was required. Paper ballots avoided fraud. Electronic voting in Amerika is a joke. Foreign observers were accepted in Russia and rejected in Communist Amerika. Any Russian could sign up to volunteer to watch out for voter fraud in person. In the end the election reflected the opinion polls from dozens of independent sources in Russia. Putin was the most popular and he was elected.
Donald Trump could be on to something.
Lets gather in that wealth.
Donald Trump could be on to something.
Lets gather in that wealth.
The only thing Trump is on to is peddling cheap "Made in China" dress-shirts and ties. And, I guess, making a fool of himself by making grandiose statements about Obama's birth certificate. Oh, and managing to cover his entire head with the 4 hairs he has left. That's quite an accomplishment.
Once you start taxing those imports, the price of the goods will go up. Once the price of goods goes up, people will reevaluate whether they need said goods. This will cause at least some drop in sales... your new tax stream will dry up, just as the income stream for those who sell those products, and... then what?
You are a troll; you vomit nonsense onto the board in tiny sentence-sized morsels, which you pretend qualify for gold nuggets. You represent everything that's wrong.
Trump was awesome when he forced truther style mr obama to show that fake birth cert.
Trumps hair is awesome.
You talk so much shit and have so little wit.
Your opinion that I dont post what you liek is boring.
Spare us all.
You contribute nothing but lame reddit CCN msnbc democrat party line day n day out.
It's ok if you aren't a thinker but leave those of us who are be!! You boring cretin!!
I am a published author and can write circles around you any time day or night.
Online is not the english classes you failed in high school.
The prices of import would go up as far as they can before people starting buying american.
There is not unlimited price elasticity in the car market.
Don't let those economics terms scare you bing can help you find them you 5th grader.
(http://www.tsarbomba.org/images/tsar%20bom%20explosion.jpg)
I know I nuked him into 4th dimension huh?
Yeah... something like that Mr. Published Author... you sure did. He won't recover! ::)
Trump was awesome when he forced truther style mr obama to show that fake birth cert.
Trumps hair is awesome.
You talk so much shit and have so little wit.
Your opinion that I dont post what you liek is boring.
Spare us all.
You contribute nothing but lame reddit CCN msnbc democrat party line day n day out.
It's ok if you aren't a thinker but leave those of us who are be!! You boring cretin!!
I am a published author and can write circles around you any time day or night.
Online is not the english classes you failed in high school.
The prices of import would go up as far as they can before people starting buying american.
There is not unlimited price elasticity in the car market.
Don't let those economics terms scare you bing can help you find them you 5th grader.
What are your published works?
Nah, not getting my identity.
We understand. It's not easy to admit you wrote The Big Penis Book (http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/sex/all/05703/facts.the_big_penis_book.htm), or ghost-wrote all those "how to please your guy" articles on Cosmopolitan.
Did your mom buy you that?
factories are really the answer
deming and henry ford had it all figured out
seriously
say what you want about santorum but hsi 0 tax on manufacturing idea is worth electing him president for
http://www.ricksantorum.com/news/2011/08/santorum-eliminate-corporate-tax-manufacturers (http://www.ricksantorum.com/news/2011/08/santorum-eliminate-corporate-tax-manufacturers)
Perhaps you didn't know, but a lot of manufacturing is automated now.
No it isn't.
Skilled Work, Without the Workerhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/business/new-wave-of-adept-robots-is-changing-global-industry.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
DRACHTEN, the Netherlands — At the Philips Electronics factory on the coast of China, hundreds of workers use their hands and specialized tools to assemble electric shavers. That is the old way.
At a sister factory here in the Dutch countryside, 128 robot arms do the same work with yoga-like flexibility. Video cameras guide them through feats well beyond the capability of the most dexterous human.
http://www.capitalcentury.com/1951.html (http://www.capitalcentury.com/1951.html)
1951 is long gone. You spend too much time dwelling on the past.
Yes it is.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/business/new-wave-of-adept-robots-is-changing-global-industry.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/09/CA-District-That-Owes-1-Billion-On-100-Million-Loan-Not-The-Exception-In-Cash-Strapped-State (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/09/CA-District-That-Owes-1-Billion-On-100-Million-Loan-Not-The-Exception-In-Cash-Strapped-State)
The article is about some of the first mass produced housing communities and how cheap they were.
Your obsession with recent things is bizarre.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/03-12-2012/123005-communist_victory_amerika-0/ (http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/03-12-2012/123005-communist_victory_amerika-0/)
Russia in their presidential elections had cameras in every voting station. Anyone could log in and see it. I did it myself. 600,000 Russians volunteered to monitor the Presidential Elections Online. ID and Russian language only was required. Paper ballots avoided fraud. Electronic voting in Amerika is a joke. Foreign observers were accepted in Russia and rejected in Communist Amerika. Any Russian could sign up to volunteer to watch out for voter fraud in person. In the end the election reflected the opinion polls from dozens of independent sources in Russia. Putin was the most popular and he was elected.
Well you are entitled to your opinion. Chances are we will never see the 1950's again. I was kid then, so naturally life was less complicated. I not a kid now, and life is still good. You can live in the past, if that is what you choose. I prefer to live in the present.
Oregon has mail in ballots.....very convenient!
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/defense-department-cant-put-soldiers-ballots-together/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/defense-department-cant-put-soldiers-ballots-together/)
Man what are you babbling about?
only productive jobs are goodIt's time to get off the drugs, son.
this was marx's failing
he thought all labor was productive labor
its not
market fixes that
unproductive are fired
this makes more efficient use of resources
all government ruin screws this
http://mises.org/resources.aspx?Id=3477ff81-3b23-4d9a-a9e2-2b3425054332 (http://mises.org/resources.aspx?Id=3477ff81-3b23-4d9a-a9e2-2b3425054332)
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/11/congress-readies-60-billion-sandy-bailout (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/11/congress-readies-60-billion-sandy-bailout)
I don't get this.
Aren't people insured?
Why do we all have to pay for storm in east?
This is fucin communism.
Suck money outa everyone to give to states.
feds are not able to do this under constitution
communism!!
'THERE WILL BE BLOOD':
Dem Makes Vow as Mich. Passes Right-to-Work Law
;D
unions are the enemy, they use government and not bargaining pwoer to screw everyone
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/11/teachers-call-out-as-protests-rev-up-against-michigan-union-bill/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/11/teachers-call-out-as-protests-rev-up-against-michigan-union-bill/)
mass production of housing parts that are interchangible in factories would make those latinos 20x as productive
;D
primemassager, governmetn stats are mostly lies btw, cite some private studies
You being of the mind that you are, of course you would think this. As if private studies don't have an agenda and cannot be manipulated.....get real!
Can you concieve the reverse? or must i spell it out for you?
dems
how much of each dollar should i keep?
I'm already kickin in 60%
10%? takehome? I am at 40% now...
I very much doubt you're paying 60% in taxes, but if you are, care to provide us with a breakdown?
There are sources to support whatever opinion one chooses to have. I am not much on conspiracy theories. Having worked in government related position I have some idea of all the checks and balances there are which work to prevent data manipulation. However, I will concede that human error exists regardless of whether the data gathering is done privately or publicly. This is probably more than you would concede. You have repeatedly shown yourself to be very single minded in your posts. I don't expect you to look at these things objectively. Unfortunately, you have a lot of company.
There are sources to support whatever opinion one chooses to have. I am not much on conspiracy theories. Having worked in government related position I have some idea of all the checks and balances there are which work to prevent data manipulation. However, I will concede that human error exists regardless of whether the data gathering is done privately or publicly. This is probably more than you would concede. You have repeatedly shown yourself to be very single minded in your posts. I don't expect you to look at these things objectively. Unfortunately, you have a lot of company.
When?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/exclusive-president-obama-predicts-gop-cave-taxes/story?id=17937679#.UMfDl5Pjnsc (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/exclusive-president-obama-predicts-gop-cave-taxes/story?id=17937679#.UMfDl5Pjnsc)
Technically, they probably don't have to compromise that much... I mean, looks like the 2012 election DID go in their favor.
What do you consider a compromise?
Compromise on what? In what capacity?
The communists are what they are - commies!
lower spending by government
lower number of pension burocrats who create nothing
reallocate the tons fo cash in education to efective teachers and firing leeches
Stop being ridiculous.
Ok, so let's take 2 and 3 away, as they are specific and I can not disagree.
what would you cut to lower spending?
Look t the 10 planks of the commie manifesto and ask yourself how a typical democrat differs
The Typical Democrat is actually just left of center... It's the extreme democrat you are referencing and of course they are kooks, but those people only win their districts because places like San Francisco are completely loony at times.
go down the line of the 10 planks of the commie manifesto
Average democrat is a communist
watch guy ya
If I was 15 or what have you, I would say ok mister just come along.
Dad would open door say whats up.
guy would fuckoff
done
watch guy ya
If I was 15 or what have you, I would say ok mister just come along.
Dad would open door say whats up.
guy would fuckoff
done
If you follow that, then the ENTIRE country is communist.
Cut the shit man.
It's bullshit.
Shall we go down thelist?
that kids is still alive today.Meh, not like he was going to write Beethovens 29th symphony.
dems
how much of each dollar should i keep?
I'm already kickin in 60%
10%? takehome? I am at 40% now...
So if a respected private lab or think tank makes a study its a conspiracy, but if government burocrat makes a study its objective science and they will publishj results that make lower government spending show as the right choice?
LOL
you are a tard
Meh, not like he was going to write Beethovens 29th symphony.
he should have the option to make that decision on his own, right?
He did have that option, and he chose wrong.
Which decision did he make?
Looking "suspicious"?
Going to the store?
Going back home?
The one where he had a gun and shot someone? Oh wait...
So which decision was it that he made?
I suspect (based on the evidence) that the jury will find Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman was justified in exercising self defense.
I suspect (based on the evidence) that the jury will find Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman was justified in exercising self defense.
I suspect (based on the evidence) that the jury will find Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman was justified in exercising self defense.
I suspect (based on the evidence) that the jury will find Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman was justified in exercising self defense.
go down the line of the 10 planks of the commie manifesto
Average democrat is a communist
watch guy ya
If I was 15 or what have you, I would say ok mister just come along.
Dad would open door say whats up.
guy would fuckoff
done
Personally, if a fat man with a gun chases me 2 blocks in the night, we never have a conversation. I'm in fear of my lilfe and one of us ain't going home.
What evidence is there that he was wielding a gun at Treyvon while he was chasing him down?
kids mad manners and violence= got shot
kid says hey my dad lives here lets go prove it, they both walk to dad done
guard looks bad
but noooo
kid attacks guard or something and gets shot
lesson: keep your cool, dont be violent
As soon as Martin becomes aware of the gun, he has legitimate reason to fear for, and to fight for, his life.
Would anyone challenge this?
I see everyone is still arguing based on their emotions on the subject. Carry on.
He wouldn't have known who Zimmerman was. All the kid knew was some guy was coming at him with a gun and it wasn't a cop. Anybody would have gone into self defense mode.
in Florida, if trayvon was 21, he would have been justified in lying prone in the ditch and shooting zimm full of bullets when his ass came around the corner. A big fat man chasing you through the dark for 2 blocks... yes, you sure as @#^*& SHOULD be in fear for your life. You don't have to wait for the fat man to actually shoot you... Ya can cap him first.
Trayvon could have hit him with a brick - out of fear of his life - and that'd been fine too.
Trayvon's mistake here was using fists when he should have been using a deadlier weapon to protect himself against the man violating his consitutional rights in a very scary manner.
Just imagine how pissed any of us would be - if we did ZERO wrong, and some big fat hero wanna be decided to chase us 2 blocks with a gun cause he didn't like our appearance - how pissed and terrified would we be?
When?everytime they have to speak with a Teabagger.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/exclusive-president-obama-predicts-gop-cave-taxes/story?id=17937679#.UMfDl5Pjnsc (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/exclusive-president-obama-predicts-gop-cave-taxes/story?id=17937679#.UMfDl5Pjnsc)
Shall we go down thelist?
in Florida, if trayvon was 21, he would have been justified in lying prone in the ditch and shooting zimm full of bullets when his ass came around the corner. A big fat man chasing you through the dark for 2 blocks... yes, you sure as @#^*& SHOULD be in fear for your life. You don't have to wait for the fat man to actually shoot you... Ya can cap him first.
Trayvon could have hit him with a brick - out of fear of his life - and that'd been fine too.
Trayvon's mistake here was using fists when he should have been using a deadlier weapon to protect himself against the man violating his consitutional rights in a very scary manner.
Just imagine how pissed any of us would be - if we did ZERO wrong, and some big fat hero wanna be decided to chase us 2 blocks with a gun cause he didn't like our appearance - how pissed and terrified would we be?
He wouldn't have known who Zimmerman was. All the kid knew was some guy was coming at him with a gun and it wasn't a cop. Anybody would have gone into self defense mode.I'm glad we've determined (using the substantial amount of evidence available to us as getbig detectives) that Zimmerman was chasing that poor Trayvon with his gun out in plain view, and that we know for a fact that Travyon was running scared for his life. Should make this case a lot easier for the prosecution.
It's a matter of Martin simply becoming aware of the gun. Period.And if he only became aware of the gun after he had already engaged Zimmerman?
And if he only became aware of the gun after he had already engaged Zimmerman?
I'd say this is exactly what is being asked.Fair enough. My point was that people were arguing like it was fact that Zimmerman was running this kid down with his gun out *cough* Rob *cough*.
How likely is it Zimmerman would want Martin to become aware of the gun, and to have him become aware of it as early as possible in the encounter?I can't speak for him, but I know that I personally don't want anyone to become aware of my firearm until I'm ready to use it. And I'm not going to use it unless I intend to kill someone.
I can't speak for him, but I know that I personally don't want anyone to become aware of my firearm until I'm ready to use it. And I'm not going to use it unless I intend to kill someone.
I can't speak for him, but I know that I personally don't want anyone to become aware of my firearm until I'm ready to use it. And I'm not going to use it unless I intend to kill someone.
Do you think a typical person would be more likely to abandon the thought of making aggressive movements if he were under the threat of being shot?Depends on the type of person. I know some people that will head right for the guy pointing the gun at them (I've witnessed this a couple times actually), and some that would run screaming, and some that would literally just freeze up in fear.
think about the type of man that called 911 because of potholes and because garages were left open.I'm not doing this again with you Rob. You're taking shots in the dark, and that's fine, but don't try and pass your leaps of logic off as facts.
think about the type of man that carries a gun while working neighborhood watch.
previous assault felony charge on law enforcement, previous problems with alcohol, domestic abuse charge...
sounds like the type of hotshot who woudl'nt walk into a fight without a gun very clear.
Depends on the type of person. I know some people that will head right for the guy pointing the gun at them (I've witnessed this a couple times actually), and some that would run screaming, and some that would literally just freeze up in fear.
Ill admit the dem is communist if you admit the GOP is sucking the 1% dick and doesnt give a damn about the middleclass ;)
at all?
I guess I worry too much.
Sometimes I need to listen to the other side to try and understand.
I get that CEO getting 100mil and lower down guy 35k after taxes is uneven.
In the theory that is communism, people are not allowed to partake in consumption unless they are active in production.
Why get outa bed if I get same as everyone?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027541/Obama-golfs-Marthas-Vineyard-increasing-personal-debt-ceiling.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027541/Obama-golfs-Marthas-Vineyard-increasing-personal-debt-ceiling.html)
We know you don't do anything once up ya commy moron.Serious question. Do you ever get tired of repeating yourself?
Unlike you I am good in bed.
Obama could care less.
Its his money he earnt it as the CEO of the country.
Are you a commie 33?
His money? GMAFB . He is a looter no different than looter dude from Katrina
He is the elected CEO of the company called america.
I thought you loved succesfull CEO's.
Obama would have been fired by now if he was a ceo of a business.
Perhaps. But that's irrelevant. The question is while he was hired, was the salary he was receiving his to do with as he please, including to burn it on silly vacations?
Obama would have been fired by now if he was a ceo of a business.
No he just got reelected, remember?
The stockholders want him.
Why do you hate succes?
Because he has none of his own.
Good thing about Obama, he just gave the loser a life plan for the next four years. Not that his mommy is happy about him sitting around unemployed that entire time.
He got a life plan, we got new "rules".
When all it would have taken is for one loser to get a life or medications.
His salary for one year does not even cover the costs of airfaire and security for his lavish vacations.
That may or may not be true; I am not privy to his financial status nor do I particularly care to be. But I am pretty sure he could easily afford "lavish" vacations on Martha's Vineyard on the proceeds from his book alone.
The cost of security is irrelevant. The Secret Service is required, by law, to provide protection to the President and which is completely funded by us. Where the President is doesn't matter so the costs of security are out of consideration. As for airfare, one of the perks of the job is that he gets to travel around in Air Force One, Marine One and fancy limousines. The cost of this transportation is through the roof, and I won't debate that. There is a policy in place that requires the President to reimburse the United States for non-political trips, but it only represents a fraction of the cost. See http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS21835.pdf for details.
To be clear, I agree that it's tone-deaf of him to take a vacation when the country is in trouble. I just find it kind of ironic that you choose to single him out and happily pretend that this sort of thing is something unprecedented and that it represents a new low. And that's bullshit. He's not the first President to spend too much time gallivanting about when the country was in a difficult spot, and he won't be the last either. Come 2016, someone else will be doing exactly the same thing.
Out of curiosity, I checked against George W. Bush (for no reason, other than the fact that he was Obama's immediate predecessor and statistics were readily available on Google); He spent a total of 1,020 days on "vacation" in Texas and Maine. That's close to 3 years out of 8: a whopping 37.5% of his time. Were you equally outraged then?
By the way, you will notice that I put vacation in quotes. That's because the President, whether he's (D) or (R) is never truly on vacation, regardless of where he is, physically.
Guy seems kinda cool but wow sometimes is very communist, yet claims to be a libertarian.I'd do him.
confusing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Maher#Personal_life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Maher#Personal_life)
Obama would have been fired by now if he was a ceo of a business.
Yet that doesn't stop you for being a lapdog for Bachmann, Palin, Cain, Perry, Romney and even Trump. LOL!!!!
Nice resignation. ::)
DISAGREE.
THe fact that any US President is able to keep us the #1 powerhouse in the world, despite trillions in debt, no mnfg, weak dollar, housing market, etc.... It's a MIRACLE.
props to Bush for keeping it afloat, props to obama for keeping it afloat.
In the real world, such a business would have collapsed years ago. Luckily, we have a military ready to bomb the shit out of anyone that fcks without our economy.
uh...since when does ANYONE care what Palin has to say about ANYTHING ?
never let anyone tell you regan economy wasnt best 8 year peacetime expansion in 180 years
regan defamtion is rampant and its all lies
cut taxes economy grows
cut spending and deifict evaporates
do oposite bernnk n obama and eocnomy take off liek rocket and gov get more tax income from more economic activity and cut spending and by by deficit
just like individual and credit card
fed must also be ended
You are posting about her no?
Unlike you I am good in bed.
Sorry magicruiser....I couldn't care less about you sex life. Furthermore, that's not the word on the street among the Hollywood Blvd. transsexual hookers.
Prime hows the fuckdoll? pop it yet?
Idiot boy, there is no such word as "hows" and "fuckdoll" is two words.
Really, do you suppose anyone here takes you seriously when you can't even post coherently? You'll need to try again and try a hell of a lot harder. Take my thoughtful advice and don't bother though. Although you are too dumb to realize this, you are a complete laughing stock among real "Getbiggers". Everyone here expresses their (smirk, smirk) appreciation to you for briefly amusing them with your imbecilic posts, but now we've grown tired of you. 'Tis time for you to crawl back into your hole under the boardwalk and die like the troll that you are. You won't be missed here....too bad so sad.
I found this portrait of you for those who wonder how you look.
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Great idea! I think you should do that right now.
just kidding you commie tards!!
she shoulda been though thats some fuin funny shit to call airhead madcow with her basket weaving degree
lol
no my friend you should read a couple dozen lol!!!
i say sterilize women at 12
then require 500k deposit b4 baby
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I hate this airhead, such a miseducated tool.
I would eat the corn out of any angery young man's shit. One of the dumbest people on planet earth.
Prime here is a good book to read: http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/GodLaughs/
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Forbes-postpone-kick-can/2012/12/15/id/467893 (http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Forbes-postpone-kick-can/2012/12/15/id/467893)
I love you ron!! If only the dems hadn't overspent and lied!!
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As i said you are very consistent at being wrong.
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
fixed
You may not like Rachel Maddow... but I have no doubt that if she were to talk to you face to face and you attempted to debate you, that she would own you into oblivion.
That is one smart fucking lesbian.
You may not like Rachel Maddow... but I have no doubt that if she were to talk to you face to face and you attempted to debate her, that she would own you into oblivion.
That is one smart fucking lesbian.
I think I would still try to bang her...nerdy lesbians are a turn-on :-*
You may not like Rachel Maddow... but I have no doubt that if she were to talk to you face to face and you attempted to debate her, that she would own you into oblivion.
That is one smart fucking lesbian.
You must have quite the fantasy life magicuiser.
They all work at welfare jobs.
They think that the propsperity capitalism gives is blood to suck and that they deserve something simply for showing up and exisitng.
The more we saddle producers with blood sucking the poorer we all get despite technological progress made mostly by non government private research.
If we simply said no debt spending we would all feel the crushing taxes needed to spend this much on cronies and welfare jobs.
Since the fed exists and we can run dificits, a politicians dream come true, they can overspend and the inflate with fed and push off the inevitable problem until they retire and leave the hot potato to the next guy.
This is all democrats do.
Peter drucker showed in his books how the modern managed corporation is really the only way known to produce anything.
Marx couldnt see this since they didn't exist until after marx.
They key distinction to make is that not all jobs are productive jobs.
Government jobs are welfare jobs since they are inevitable higher paid than they produce. They also have a nasty feature of you can't fire the stinkers.
This leads to rot and more welfare jobs and eventual megarot in the form of unions and unions lawyers working with cronies.
USA has the odd feature that we have the easiest life on the planet yet everyone thinks life is tuff and the rich don't pay them enough.
When people come here from north korea its like WOW, or from China...
There an engineer gets $200 a month with phd.
People are simply used to being lazy, and vote to keep thier welfare jobs, but printing money at fed or bloood sucking producers has a cost, its not for free.
Not a chance, you see I am an economics grad, and an objectivist, and austrian schooler, and a genius, and hek a funnny fucker.And to fucking think I only figured you for a "Private Computer Guy" as you originally stated in this thead... lol... wow, you're a true freaking internet superhero. A true fucking Clark Kent lol...
And to fucking think I only figured you for a "Private Computer Guy" as you originally stated in this thead... lol... wow, you're a true freaking internet superhero. A true fucking Clark Kent lol...
Well top 20 university is I think the least of my accomplishments.Top 20 huh.... oh how dare me!!! I'm owned lol...
I guess I take this stuff seriously.
If you don't understand economics you won't get its power.
I make a lot of money in the computer industry. I want to make 10x more.
As far as the modern managed corp, the point in the Drucker book was that marx had never seen such.
HE had no conception of it.
Marx could not imagine a large managed corporation.
They are the only way sofar invented of producing things efficiently.
Other ways can work but waste tons fo money on non productive acitivities and then we are all poorer with more expensive goods of lower quality.
Reality is tuff but fair.
Governmetn reallocation distort reality so wankers n cronies get $$ they dont earn.
gonna take an ayn rand before I go for a 3 mile run, bro.
top 20 is rated by us news and world report not mehow special for you ::) I give a crap.
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/12/15/clinton_wont_testify_on_benghazi_due_to_illness (http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/12/15/clinton_wont_testify_on_benghazi_due_to_illness)
how special for you ::) I give a crap.
havent been following
I'm with you. I'd love to bang her. I'd probably invest in a penis pump just to hopefully stretch her out a little.
why do things like this happen often
i think because it's glorified too much and punished too little
if they didnt give these morons such media attention and let savage cops rape their ass then execute them on the side of the road this would not be common
crazies love schools n sport events to do crazy shit
mobs need armed supervisors
commies hating guns allowed mosnters like this to act and not be killed before they run amok
democrats are to blame, the blasted commies
its insane to tax production
instead tax consumption
why penalize wealth creator who make poor rich?
I believe there is merit to a value added tax. Mainly, no one can escape it. However, sales tax is considered a regressive tax.
How do the wealthy make the poor rich and why would we want to do that? If everyone were wealthy, then it would mean nothing and would provide no social status, like it does now. A person can be the biggest jerk in the world (Donald Trump) and many people will still think they are "the cat's meow" just because they have a lot of money.
then you are a foolish commie who wants welfare
Maybe I am dense today. How are you coming to this conclusion from what I posted?
I am not super rich, but I am in pretty good shape financially. I happen to believe there is only so much "pie" and I am lucky to have a fairly large slice of it. I am well aware that this means there is less "pie" for others....that's life. Even if I can't consume all my pie, I will make sure there is plenty there for the future, even if I decide to give some of it away.
if you want communism you are a commy
You are frustrating to communicate with sometimes. Where did I ever write that I want Communism? For the record, I think Communism goes against human nature and therefore cannot work. Human nature is in line with survival of the fittest....that is the opposite of Communist idealism.
I think you step on your own mental dick.
A value added tax is an insane communist tax that lets government add taxes anytime anywhere they want.
Thats un american and insane.
You advocate it as if its normal.
I think you step on your own mental dick.
A value added tax is an insane communist tax that lets government add taxes anytime anywhere they want.
Thats un american and insane.
You advocate it as if its normal.
awesome
tax unions
I see nothing communist about a VAT (that's not to say I like the concept of a VAT - I don't, but that's another topic altogether). In fact, I'd argue that it's profoundly uncommunist, since there's really no concept of value left by the time communism takes over. But don't let facts get in your way...
Oregon, where I live, does not have a sales tax. It is one of five states without sales tax. The other four are: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire. The consequences of no sales tax in Oregon are relatively high income and property tax rates as compared to other states with a sales tax. For a good state by state taxation comparison check out this interactive map: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/89702927.html (http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/89702927.html).
A sales tax is considered a regressive tax. A regressive tax, is a tax that takes a larger percentage from low-income people than from high-income people. A regressive tax is generally a tax that is applied uniformly. This means that it hits lower-income individuals harder. This would be because lower income people spend a greater portion of their income on everyday goods a services as opposed to being able to invest it, save it or give it away to charity.
As you stated VAT is the opposite of Communism. I guess some folks simply don't understand what they are saying when they post and they apparently don't bother to find out before they post either so they won't look like idiots. I think we know who I am speaking of. The person I have in mind likes to boast that he has a degree in economics from a top 20 University...hmm. He says he is a published author too....double hmm.
There are some good aspects of sales tax. The main thing is that no one can escape paying it. There are no loopholes around paying a sales tax. Well, aside from the fact that a lot of folks on the border between Washington and Oregon, shop in Oregon to avoid paying sales tax. Likewise some folks who work in Oregon, live in Washington to avoid paying Oregon's higher income and property taxes. For those living in Vancouver and working in Portland, they get to sit in grid-lock traffic half their lives. Personally, I wouldn't make this trade off....too aggravating.
www.faritax.org shows that to al be wrong.
Never think in percentages only think in absolutes.
The percentages thing is how academics and commnists blur reality.
VAT is very ve very bad idea that should be met with a strom of violece.
I can only imagine how fucking pissed id be if I was paying 1million in taxes, while some fuck is getting obama phone and 2k a month for 99 weeks no work.
Leeching offa producers is how u slow down economy to limp.
cut gov 80%
www.faritax.org shows that to al be wrong.
Never think in percentages only think in absolutes.
The percentages thing is how academics and commnists blur reality.
VAT is very ve very bad idea that should be met with a strom of violece.
I can only imagine how fucking pissed id be if I was paying 1million in taxes, while some fuck is getting obama phone and 2k a month for 99 weeks no work.
Leeching offa producers is how u slow down economy to limp.
cut gov 80%
By the way, there's nothing fair about the FairTax. It's a ridiculous proposal.nah
nah
its awesome and would help the economy and poor
nah
its awesome and would help the economy and poor
Even if it was and even if it did, that still wouldn't make it fair.
Even if it was and even if it did, that still wouldn't make it fair.
Please don't take this as being argumentative, but what is fair when it comes to taxation? Taxing the rich to pay the freight for the poor doesn't seem fair. Giving the rich a break, while socking it to the middle class does not seem fair. Allowing the poor to pay no taxes seems unfair. So exactly what is fair? A value added tax (VAT) is a regressive tax precisely because everyone pays it, regardless of how much money they make. People who are barely scraping by, would still pay taxes on what they purchase, but my guess is they buy a lot less than people who have more money. So to in some respects, it is probably the most fair tax of all.
Under current tax laws, people who have home mortgages can deduct the interest and points they pay on that mortgage. I think it is reasonable to say that many poor people cannot afford to buy property, so they rent. Guess what, they don't get to deduct the portion of their rent that goes to paying their landlord's mortgage. For the average wage earner and tax payer, if you don't have the mortgage deduction, you probably cannot itemize your deductions, so you are stuck with the standard deduction. There is an inherent unfairness in this.
Currently, if you are wealthy, you have access to other deductions that middle income and poor people don't. This helps explain why the tax rate on the wealthy is often only 15%, while it is much higher for middle income people, often around 40%. -Hardly fair.
I am something of a control freak (in case you hadn't noticed). This is particularly true when it comes to my money. There is no legal way to control taxes on income, which is frustrating for me. If we replace income tax with a VAT, I could at least control how much money I spend, up to a point. For example, if I want a new car, I can decide if I want to pay the tax on a $50,000 automobile or a $25,000 one. Better still, I can say the heck with it and fix my current car, thereby avoiding any major tax bite. In the European countries, which have a VAT, food is taxed at a lower rate than other commodities. This way, all but the poorest folks can still afford to purchase food items and pay the tax.
Whatever tax system we have, people won't like it. Nobody is happy about paying the tax man. However, we live in a world with a lot of other people, some of which cannot provide for themselves and need government assistance. We enjoy the benefits public agencies provide us and really couldn't get by without them. Everything comes at a cost. Part of the cost of living as well as we do as a society comes from paying taxes. This is nothing new, btw. Taxation has been with us forever in one form or another, fair or not.
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/273421-boehner-moves-to-plan-b (http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/273421-boehner-moves-to-plan-b)
This is why republican party is shambles, they act like democrats, rasiing taxes, with bullshti lip service to cut spending later.
They will permanently lower the taxes for lower incomes. Have you read it yourself?
I have read most of www.fairtax.org yes
The article dumbass...
They will permanently lower the taxes for lower incomes. Have you read it yourself?
thats rich tall genius with good looks to you welfare boy, now get back in moms basement
thats rich tall genius with good looks to you welfare boy, now get back in moms basement
You will soon discover that Magi... doesn't read!
He doesnt have too.
He is a genius..or so he says.
maybe.......................if you grade him on the GetBig curve
Judge: State must pay more than $700,000 in legal fees to attorneys of convicted murderer who wants sex change surgery
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2012/12/19/kosilek/w9i6yDzEdbNl1dZLd2NMqI/story.html (http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2012/12/19/kosilek/w9i6yDzEdbNl1dZLd2NMqI/story.html)
I don't whose gimmick you are, but you are funny.
Couple of words and half a sentence and you've Prime responding with book long essays that nobody's reading anyway.
lol.
“Resistance at all costs can end up costing the taxpayers quite a lot,” District Judge Mark L. Wolf said, adding that the Department of Correction has had to pay hundreds of thousands in legal fees to lawyers in other cases in which the department violated prisoners’ constitutional rights.
“The repeated violation of constitutional rights of prisoners … costs taxpayers money that is needed for other purposes,” he said.
lol
with 20% inflation a year and 30% unemplyment
love u dems!!!!
utrter nuke the economy then claim obama didnt use irs to win 2012!
I bet she will win.
No.
It's the law of the land. The fact you don't understand this is indication enough of how frustrated you are going to be every day of your life with your mini meltdowns.
No.
It's the law of the land. The fact you don't understand this is indication enough of how frustrated you are going to be every day of your life with your mini meltdowns.
In the USA, bills can be signed into law which repeal an existing law. However, good luck getting Obama to sign such bill.
"Haha!" Good luck repealing Romneycare no matter who is in office.
My reply didn't state that any law couldn't be repealed. Nor did my reply no law has ever been repealed. My statement was specifically about Obamacare being the law of the land so you might as well get used to it.
::)
Mine went up 1300 a year
1300$ ?
1300$ ?
Prohibition was the law of the land too.fixed
And Bill Clinton signed into law the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation.
Thank you, George Bush, for bringing about the worst recession since The Great Depression!
yeah whork but that's just $108.33 a month extra. and Obamacare is going to save millions of lives and make everyone healthier. its peanuts right?
yeah whork but that's just $108.33 a month extra. and Obamacare is going to save millions of lives and make everyone healthier. its peanuts right?
HEHEHEHEH!!
You are correct, bears.
That is what the libtards keep telling anyone who actually works for a living.
Prohibition was the law of the land too.
And Bill Clinton signed into law the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation.
Thank you, Bill Clinton, for bringing about the worst recession since The Great Depression!
probly have welfare jobs which wouldnt exist in free market like pub school teacher or social worker
Nope thats not peanuts.
I might have to change my stance somewhat on this issue.
How about the rest of you GB'ers?
Have you experienced the same as Soul?
my health insurance premiums went up 46%. so about $1,200-$1,300 more per year.
we looked at what was being offered on the exchange and it was a little bit cheaper than that but still a good deal more expensive than what I was paying before this all started.
and as it turns out my family practitioner (who my wife works with as she's in the health care industry so he gives us great deals, we don't want to go to anyone else) told my wife that he's probably not going to accept Obamacare. so we would most probably have to change doctors at some point in the future so it's not worth it to us right now to switch to something offered on the exchange.
but depending on how the federal government puts mandates on Blue Cross Blue Shield over the next few years our premiums may get to a point where we'll be forced to get our insurance from the exchange and switch doctors.
and whork i'm not trying to win an argument here. i'm simply stating honestly and openly what my situation is. this is a REAL PERSON dealing with Obamacare in REAL LIFE. not some dude from behind a computer in a foreign country who's learning everything off of the internet.
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
Sorry to hear about what happened to you and Ozmo. This thing is an absolute disaster.
my health insurance premiums went up 46%. so about $1,200-$1,300 more per year.
we looked at what was being offered on the exchange and it was a little bit cheaper than that but still a good deal more expensive than what I was paying before this all started.
and as it turns out my family practitioner (who my wife works with as she's in the health care industry so he gives us great deals, we don't want to go to anyone else) told my wife that he's probably not going to accept Obamacare. so we would most probably have to change doctors at some point in the future so it's not worth it to us right now to switch to something offered on the exchange.
but depending on how the federal government puts mandates on Blue Cross Blue Shield over the next few years our premiums may get to a point where we'll be forced to get our insurance from the exchange and switch doctors.
and whork i'm not trying to win an argument here. i'm simply stating honestly and openly what my situation is. this is a REAL PERSON dealing with Obamacare in REAL LIFE. not some dude from behind a computer in a foreign country who's learning everything off of the internet.
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
Yeah, looking like the same thing with me. The exchange is cheaper, but overall much more expensive. Before exchange +68% after exchange +50%
thank you Democrats, Congress, GOP, POTUS, I fucking hate you all.
Yeah, looking like the same thing with me. The exchange is cheaper, but overall much more expensive. Before exchange +68% after exchange +50%remember this at the voting booth Oz, reps may not be great but they are a shit load better than the alternative.
thank you Democrats, Congress, GOP, POTUS, I fucking hate you all.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/01/08/213908/white-house-denies-gates-charge.html (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/01/08/213908/white-house-denies-gates-charge.html)
Sorry dude.
remember this at the voting booth Oz, reps may not be great but they are a shit load better than the alternative.
Retired cops and firefighters are the biggest thieves :'(
He's an idiot.....people like him so that just goes to show you how far you can go.
tell her to stop watching fox and she'll get her answers :o
;D :o ;D
Im with ted on this one
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/08/04/2410171/ted-nugent-trayvon-martin-got-justice/ (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/08/04/2410171/ted-nugent-trayvon-martin-got-justice/)
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This is not what HeadHunter has told us in the past.They're not.
He has stated that the Chinese military isn't even close to ours.
So should USA nuke china into stone age now or wait?
I agree completely.....we're getting to the point that people will actively operate against the federal government. I think unusual alliances will form once poor blacks realize they just got fucked..again. The Chamber of Commerce asshats should be ashamed.
Find a tea party guy running against an establishment Repub....hell a conservative Dem against immigration reform would be better for the country.
Exclusive - Ted Cruz: House GOP's Amnesty Push Will Ruin Hopes of Retaking Senate
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) thinks that the House GOP leadership’s renewed push this week to grant amnesty to illegal aliens would destroy the Republican Party’s chances at retaking the Senate in 2014.
Cruz questioned how establishment Republicans unilaterally caving to Democrats on everything from the farm bill to the budget to the debt ceiling and more could think amnesty is a good idea at this time.
"Right now, Republican leadership in both chambers is aggressively urging members to stand down on virtually every front: on the continuing resolution, on the budget, on the farm bill, on the debt ceiling,” Cruz said in a statement provided exclusively to Breitbart News on Thursday.
He continued:
They may or may not be right, but their argument is that we should focus exclusively on Obamacare and on jobs. In that context, why on earth would the House dive into immigration right now? It makes no sense, unless you're Harry Reid. Republicans are poised for an historic election this fall--a conservative tidal wave much like 2010. The biggest thing we could do to mess that up would be if the House passed an amnesty bill--or any bill perceived as an amnesty bill--that demoralized voters going into November. Rather than responding to the big-money lobbying on K Street, we need to make sure working-class Americans show up by the millions to reject Obamacare and vote out the Democrats. Amnesty will ensure they stay home.
Cruz added that granting amnesty now--while wrong in his opinion at any time--would ensure Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid remains in his position in after the 2014 elections.
"Amnesty is wrong in any circumstance, and if we are going to fix our broken immigration system--and we should--it makes much more sense to do so next year, so that we are negotiating a responsible solution with a Republican Senate majority rather than with Chuck Schumer,” Cruz said. “Anyone pushing an amnesty bill right now should go ahead and put a 'Harry Reid for Majority Leader' bumper sticker on their car, because that will be the likely effect if Republicans refuse to listen to the American people and foolishly change the subject from Obamacare to amnesty.”
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/30/Exclusive-Ted-Cruz-House-GOP-leadership-s-amnesty-plan-would-destroy-chances-at-retaking-Senate-this-year?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I say we have an 800 year old man build a boat and sail them away :D
I say we have an 800 year old man build a boat and sail them away :D
And take all the feeble minded idiots along with him.
his weight.
I don't think there should be a sneak contract for str8s
any contract should be signed up front not hidden by bs lovey dovery until the bear trap clanks shut
lawyers stealing from men to give to mostly women and its wrong
do not spread this to more men!
less that 1 % of people want it
put gay marriage to popular vote and 99% against
it is not discrimination that is stupid idea
So in other words you are just bitter because another gender has no interest in marrying you either.
I don't think there should be a sneak contract for str8s
any contract should be signed up front not hidden by bs lovey dovery until the bear trap clanks shut
lawyers stealing from men to give to mostly women and its wrong
do not spread this to more men!
less that 1 % of people want it
put gay marriage to popular vote and 99% against
it is not discrimination that is stupid idea
No I understand the core concepts. Who's bitter? Project much?
how many concepts are there for you to keep track of anyway?
two people of the same sex getting married is pretty much all there is to know
If you are personally opposed to gay marriage then you're free to not get gay married
just for laughs why don't you explain why you believe 99% of the population would vote against it since both Pew and Gallup polls show support between 55% to 60%
how many concepts are there for you to keep track of anyway?
two people of the same sex getting married is pretty much all there is to know
If you are personally opposed to gay marriage then you're free to not get gay married
just for laughs why don't you explain why you believe 99% of the population would vote against it since both Pew and Gallup polls show support between 55% to 60%
fine tell liz warren and others lets have a state wide vote! of the people, let everyone be counted, you will lose 95 to 5 lol
fine tell liz warren and others lets have a state wide vote! of the people, let everyone be counted, you will lose 95 to 5 lol
It's an exit not an entrance
It's an exit not an entrance
It's an exit not an entrance
Liz Warren the senator?
Please explain how senators are involved in public voting, much less on voting to take away a civil right
you have problems with definitions. I say let the people vote and you will never ever get this gay marraige powergrab passed. We should reduce the legal fees in this country bigtime, not give more power to the state. There is no discrimination and no civil rights involved, it is about the law being used to steal from citizens. Only a small number of powermad politicans want gay marriage and that is only for lawsuit looting. The majority of people will vote it down thats why morons like Obama and Liz warren will never let the people vote on it. :)
Define "minority" religions if you please.
Define "minority" religions if you please.
It's an exit not an entrance
saying it! Too bad its a free country huh?
So, what are you saying exactly? That you're opposed to gay marriage because a dick may end up in an ass? If that's your concern, shouldn't you be out there advocating only for lesbian marriages and demanding a prohibition on strap-ons and vegetables shaped like phalluses?
Compared to Islam, Christianity is a "minority religion".
We don't put civil rights to a popular vote (not going to even waste my time explaining it to you - go consult the Supreme Court decision if you actually care)
Why are you even bringing up Warren or Obama?
You still haven't offered an explanation for the inconsistency of your opinion of how the public would vote in your idiotic premise (99% against) vs. actual public opinion polls showing strong support for gay marriage.
My reasoning is sound, you are just ignoring it.
The majority would vote down so called gay marriage. :)
My reasoning is sound, you are just ignoring it.
The majority would vote down so called gay marriage. :)
Worldwide though, Christianity and Islam are almost 50/50
My reasoning is sound, you are just ignoring it.
The majority would vote down so called gay marriage. :)
This may come as a surprise to you, but we live in a republic, not a democracy. You† may want to educate yourself on what the difference is.
† well, not you what with your gig as a troll and all...
What has that got to do with anything I said?
You stupid attempt to change the subject doesn't change the fact that if the people were allowed to vote on the issue it would be voted down. Just sayin :) By the way I understand what a republic is :) thx
What has that got to do with anything I said?
folks...
333386/Soul Crusher may have returned ! Just in time for the '16 election and the social issues!
The majority doesn't want gay marriage and it is wrong for the government to steal based on a shady hidden bear trap contract.
The majority doesn't want gay marriage and it is wrong for the government to steal based on a shady hidden bear trap contract.
The role of an republic is to protect minorities from the majority.
Not the other way around.
folks...
333386/Soul Crusher may have returned ! Just in time for the '16 election and the social issues!
The majority doesn't want gay marriage and it is wrong for the government to steal based on a shady hidden bear trap contract.
Lol of course the majority don't want gay marriage. Only a few fascists like you think it is a good idea. More stealing from people using the idea of divorce. Wow.
I didn't know the majority were being forced to marry queersno one is being 'forced' to marry anyone! geez, get the argument correct.
I see your irony bypass is working
worst president of all time by very large margin
Your stats....from your side. Sorry guy but by every measurable stat things around the world are worse because of or in spite of your shitbag president.
EXACTLY HOW ARE THESE STATS FROM MY SIDE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????These are GOVERNMENT STATS........why can't you admit what the stats CLEARLY SHOW????????????....that your whole premise about OBAMA is ABSOLUTELY WRONG........you are truly embarrassing yourself here ??? ???
Haha, because it's a government, Obama minion controlled site.
you MUST know in that pea brain of yours that presidents cannot control these stats...if they could then Obama would never have let the Labor Dept. report 10% unemployment back in 2009..does that make sense to you?
I suppose you actually think that oshithead is just a talking head being controlled by staffers. Don't you?
(shaking head)...AMAZING...
Doesn't surprise me especially since you really think the UE is at 5%...lol.
I see your irony bypass is workingwhen you make silly statements, yes.
Haha, because it's a government, Obama minion controlled site.
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Just then they came in sight of thirty or forty windmills that rise from that plain. And no sooner did ABSFABS see them that he said to his squire, "Fortune is guiding our affairs better than we ourselves could have wished. Do you see over yonder, friend Sancho, thirty or forty hulking giants? I intend to do battle with them and slay them. With their spoils we shall begin to be rich for this is a righteous war and the removal of so foul a brood from off the face of the earth is a service God will bless."
"What giants?" asked Sancho Panza.
"Those you see over there," replied his master, "with their long arms. Some of them have arms well nigh two leagues in length."
"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills. Those things that seem to be their arms are sails which, when they are whirled around by the wind, turn the millstone."
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I'm not anti gay but i'm against gay mariage, because they want it to be a norm. I work with gay and being gay or lesbian is not just about eating dick or pussy, it's far more complicated in a psychological way.
I worked with a couple of lesbian in the past, they were the weirdest psycho you can find. Hidding their homosexuality, pretending they were roomate, or only doing carpooling. One of them was a psychorigid bitch, making comment about guy like she was an hetero.
The other was the vicious person i've ever met. The kind of person that can makes you doing nasty stuff just to got something against you to got an emprise on you.
Both were compulsive manipulative despite their totally different personnality. Both very smart.
Their two brain were like one, very powerful machine, able to put group of ppl into servitude with invisible manipulation.
Rumor (more than rumor) say that they killed an elderly neighbor with psychological harrasment.
The wickiest ppl ever.
oh, well then, that settles it. You've made a great case. Two lesbians.
glad life is so simple in your world.
you seem to be confusing sexuality with antisocial behaviour
well thing is the libs...you guys...whatever make this big thing about the "war on women"....well kinda hard to be for "da women" if your husband is serial rapist and philanderer. Once again proving u libs are all full of shit. I'm just glad you guys came out of the gun control closet and are for full on confiscation.
jesus christ. between absfag and jon cock on here... this thread is golden.
jesus christ. between absfag and jon cock on here... this thread is golden.
Watching too many porn leads to a false idea of lesbian.
It's just i can't imagine the lesbians i know having children. I just can't.
Oh wait, did i forgot to mention that they were at least 10 lesbians in my site, agglomerated in a mafia, terrifying our direction with the permanent menace of denouncing so called "homophobia" when something wasn't in their way.
I also mention to forgot the neverending weird pussy story, constantly cheating on each other with the other lesbians of the site, and also, best part of it, forcing one of them to complain for rape against a male coworker because her "girl" discovered she cheated on her with the guy.
Another was caught in the act putting nail under coworker vehicule tire, she destroyed 60 tires on a 6 month period.
Wicked, nasty, pervert.
The lesbian muffia? Sounds hairy .
unemployment
history will say Obama dropped US from 10 to 5%.
everything we say is just conspiracy nonsense.
'A new Gallup poll says support of same-sex marriage is at an all-time high, with 60 percent of Americans favoring it being legal in the U.S. That’s up from 55 percent in support last year.'
http://www.opb.org/news/blog/newsblog/same-sex-marriage-legalized-a-year-ago-in-oregon/
The above poll does not take into consideration the 99% of the homophobe, rednecks are against gay marriage. ;D
oh snap.as the BookWorm said to Batman....
'A new Gallup poll says support of same-sex marriage is at an all-time high, with 60 percent of Americans favoring it being legal in the U.S. That’s up from 55 percent in support last year.'
http://www.opb.org/news/blog/newsblog/same-sex-marriage-legalized-a-year-ago-in-oregon/
The above poll does not take into consideration the 99% of the homophobe, rednecks are against gay marriage. ;D
Forget the poll, just let the people vote on gay marriage, and suprisingly it won't pass by 90% margin. The dream agreement democrats mastrubate over is only a dream. Most people are against it. It is not discrimination, nor racism, sorry. People aren't interested in communist minority view that thinks its a good idea. It is not.
'A new Gallup poll says support of same-sex marriage is at an all-time high, with 60 percent of Americans favoring it being legal in the U.S. That’s up from 55 percent in support last year.'
http://www.opb.org/news/blog/newsblog/same-sex-marriage-legalized-a-year-ago-in-oregon/
The above poll does not take into consideration the 99% of the homophobe, rednecks are against gay marriage. ;D
Cmon admit it, you know the majority of people don't want gay marriage, you know it. That is why only a tiny fraction of lawyers are desperatly trying to pass it while government school re educate the young to be for it based on some trumpde up discrimination or civil rights bs.
lol
since Obama announced his anti-ISIS coalition, ISIS territory has grown 20 percent. Most of the coalition’s 50 “members” have done nothing in the fight.
http://nypost.com/2015/05/23/the-farcical-failure-of-obamas-anti-isis-strategy/
I have schooled everyone who has tried. Asserting something is not an argument. I clearly explained things. Challenge your beliefs and you may benefit. The government stealing more is not a good thing and most people don't want it.
Forget the poll, just let the people vote on Slavery, and suprisingly it would pass.fixed.
I have schooled everyone who has tried. Asserting something is not an argument. I clearly explained things. Challenge your beliefs and you may benefit. The government stealing more is not a good thing and most people don't want it.
Wtf is a 90% margin? Can you do math? Do you understand democratic principles?
Answer is no. Please use this cheat sheet in your reply.
I have schooled everyone who has tried. Asserting something is not an argument. I clearly explained things. Challenge your beliefs and you may benefit. The government stealing more is not a good thing and most people don't want it.
Forget the poll, just let the people vote on gay marriage, and suprisingly it won't pass by 90% margin. The dream agreement democrats mastrubate over is only a dream. Most people are against it. It is not discrimination, nor racism, sorry. People aren't interested in communist minority view that thinks its a good idea. It is not.
I don't think there should be a sneak contract for str8s
any contract should be signed up front not hidden by bs lovey dovery until the bear trap clanks shut
lawyers stealing from men to give to mostly women and its wrong
do not spread this to more men!
less that 1 % of people want it
put gay marriage to popular vote and 99% against
it is not discrimination that is stupid idea
well thing is the libs...you guys...whatever make this big thing about the "war on women"....well kinda hard to be for "da women" if your husband is serial rapist and philanderer. Once again proving u libs are all full of shit. I'm just glad you guys came out of the gun control closet and are for full on confiscation.
where was it tested in the 19th Century?
None of those countries had socialism in the 19th century.
Those countries were actually Monarchies at those times.
Russia has never been socialist in the manner that Bernie Sanders discusses.
As a matter of fact, the "socialism" that Bernie Sanders discusses is how France and the UK are governed today.
I'm not saying they are better than the constitutional republic of the US, but that's what they are.
that is not the correct answer to my question
Russia china and europe tried socialism in the 19th century and it failed...to sum up
you are stupid beyond belief
No one is interested in your weird interpretations of what I said.
You socialists will NEVER let people choose what they want, because they don't care about your crony agenda.
If people were allowed to vote, no gay marriage anywhere would pass.
Only a tiny number of communist social engineers want this kind of stupid law, that only allows gays to sue for divorce money as women do...which is bad.
Socialism failed in the 19th century, and will always fail.
Obama is worst president of all time by a large margin, even worse that FDR who caused the great depression....and he took debt from 8 to 21T in 7 years....wow....solyandr a, VA, IRS, force unionizing fedex which would have allowed packages that are small to be 50 cents for $4 min amazon now charges, but kicked overpriced overpaid union asses!!! Remeber unions make us all poorer and have high prices.
they didn't
go check your facts
Boy do you ramble on. Do you find that folks laugh whenever you attempt to make a point? If you speak like you write, I can't see how they could keep from laughing at you.
Laugh all you want, you are still wrong ;D
Bill Cosby Donated To The Clinton Foundation. Will The Charity Return The Money?
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Numerous organizations had disassociated themselves from Bill Cosby even before the comedian was charged with a crime for any of the alleged sexual assaults he committed over the years. Colleges and universities have scrubbed the formerly-beloved TV dad’s name from their buildings. Others have rescinded honorary degrees given to Cosby and more have returned donations he has provided.
But one organization that has yet to make a move regarding Cosby is the Clinton Foundation.
As was reported earlier this year, the “Cosby Show” creator gave between $1,001 and $5,000 to the non-profit organization operated by former president Bill Clinton and his wife, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
Even as dozens of women came forward to accuse Cosby of sexually assaulting them over the past several decades, the charity declined to relinquish the Cosby cash. And in a particularly awkward interview in July, Clinton campaign communications director Jennifer Palmieri hemmed and hawed when asked whether the Foundation would return the money.
“It’s, you know, wealthy people giving money to help poor people. Uh, we think that’s, uh, that’s a positive thing,” she said.
What Should The Clinton Foundation Do With The Money?
Return It To Cosby Donate It To Charities That Help Victims Of Sexual Assault
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Asked by Bloomberg’s Mark Halperin whether she saw any reason for the Clinton Foundation to give the money back, Palmieri said: “I mean, I think that you should, uh, uh, like the Foundation can also speak to this.”
The Clinton Foundation did not respond on Wednesday to The Daily Caller’s questions about its plans for the Cosby donations.
An arrest warrant for Cosby was issued on Wednesday for an incident which allegedly occurred in his Philadelphia-area mansion in Jan. 2004. Cosby allegedly raped Andrea Constand while she was unconscious. Constand has said that she looked at Cosby as a friend and mentor before the incident.
Montgomery County, Pennsylvania District Attorney Kevin Steele said Wednesday that Cosby was being charged with “aggravated indecent assault” — a first-degree felony — and that he will be arraigned later in the day. (RELATED: Bill Cosby Charged With Felony Aggravated Indecent Assault)
In July, Spelman College, a historically black women’s college in Atlanta, terminated a professorship endowed by Cosby and his wife. Numerous other schools have distanced themselves from Cosby in other ways. Marquette University, Brown University, and Fordham University — just to name a few — have rescinded honorary degrees granted to the 78-year-old.
Of course, there’s one explanation that could explain the Clinton’s slow response to the Cosby affair. Bill Clinton himself has been accused by numerous women of sexual assault, indecency, and harassment since the 1970s.
Under old plan my Gf paid 750 for an unforeseen medical issue 2 years ago...this year under douchbag care 12K. Please libs don't even try to tell us this shit is better.
Don't know what to tell you guys.
I get better coverage and slightly lower costs ever since Obamacare was implemented.
Sorry it's been so rough on you guys.
That's because you are honest and have no agenda. These retards are liars and racists and urban legend puppeteers.
Don't know what to tell you guys.
I get better coverage and slightly lower costs ever since Obamacare was implemented.
Sorry it's been so rough on you guys.
I'm still waiting for my $2500 reduction per family like he promised. But wait, didn't most of see this coming?
I mean this to be is basic truth. Fox is only slightly republican. Never hear of faritax.org or repealing income tax on fox, or dissolving everything not enumerated in constitution that the feds do.......
I mean founder never intended federal law to be so overwhelming
or federal reserve bank to make gov own banking....
great, coherent thread.
USA needs the opposite!
Capitalism is endless boom and all better off..
Socialism is busts and fed printing $$ giving it to incompetents like elon musk who piss it away and we are all then in debt nothing to show 4 it...
Why is this not basic for people?
Your thread title is the most idiotic in the history of Getbig since at this time, the U.S. economy is doing better than a ANY economy in the world, including China....also we have FULL EMPLOYMENT at 5%.....and creating 200,000 jobs a month........Wall st. is booming....
this is embarrassing for you
We have had some fantastic new posters to the Political board in 2015 and absfabs is right there at the top of the class.
Keep doing your thing, bro. I'm a huge fan.
Well to answer the thread...cause he was black...andre voted for him because he was black...no other reason. Now we have Saudi Arabia and Iran gearing up for war...the rest of the middle east in shambles..NK doing what NK does...cause Bush or something. Russia is on the rebound and if their economy tanks...expect a war somewhere. Domestically the black dude in the Whitehouse has gutted the military both in manpower and equipment while using it as a grand social experiment t. In Obama's world science is only settled if its about climate change...cause apparently women are the same as men and can be Seals or some shit. Yeah oil is cheap...despite him...need I post the Obama quote about energy necessarily needing to go up. Then we have unemployement...again great job Barry, we have a "real unemployment" rate around 10% because some people have just given up or watched their jobs turn into part time. Others have watched Obamacare blow their rates through the roof and they've lost their doctors.....but barry is part black and that's ok by andre. Good job andre you rock.Well first of all I consider your post a victory because you constantly go off topic and talk about race when you have ABSOLUTELY NO RETORT...so you then have to torture your mind to come up with stuff that has nothing to do with the thread title and plus inject race into it like you usually do.....and then by page five of this thread you will proclaim ME to be the racist and say that I brought it up first like you always do....
Well to answer the thread...cause he was black...andre voted for him because he was black...no other reason.
what % of votes does obama get in 2008 if he's white? Less than the 53% that he got?
ALSO got 40% of the white vote, 80% of Asians, and 70% of Hispanics...he had an awful lot of support...........yet headsucker thinks MY VOTE put Obama over the top :D
Obama got almost 70% of the eskimo vote. those fcking eskimos.
Well to answer the thread...cause he was black...andre voted for him because he was black...no other reason. Now we have Saudi Arabia and Iran gearing up for war...the rest of the middle east in shambles..NK doing what NK does...cause Bush or something. Russia is on the rebound and if their economy tanks...expect a war somewhere. Domestically the black dude in the Whitehouse has gutted the military both in manpower and equipment while using it as a grand social experiment t. In Obama's world science is only settled if its about climate change...cause apparently women are the same as men and can be Seals or some shit. Yeah oil is cheap...despite him...need I post the Obama quote about energy necessarily needing to go up. Then we have unemployement...again great job Barry, we have a "real unemployment" rate around 10% because some people have just given up or watched their jobs turn into part time. Others have watched Obamacare blow their rates through the roof and they've lost their doctors.....but barry is part black and that's ok by andre. Good job andre you rock.
:D......it would be interesting to know how much of the gay vote he got?
like, tapping toes trying to blow dudes in airports in minnesota?
What about the economy affects the average American most?
Zero regulations? What about on pollution? What about on monopolies? What happens to cell phone bills if att is allowed to buy up all their competition?
Mandatory fifth grade spelling skills before being allowed to use the internet.
Mandatory fifth grade spelling skills before being allowed to use the internet.
How would you enforce that?
getbig political is at a low point right now. hopefully a lot of the regulars return when election season comes. I skip the board some days because it's just stupid at time. It used to be a cool collection of thoughts.
A stern talk with your mother for starters.
It's not an insult if it is the truth.
I know Republicans have a problem with the truth, but it doesn't change things. ;D
But there sure is a lot of "educated" people in those broke ass red states that possess the highest rate of teen pregnancy, drug use, high school drop out, poverty and gov't $$ assistance in the nation.
Not true at all. CA Ny have far more teen preg than oh I dunno, Kansas
GOP is nothing more than a pathetic attempt at an Agatha Christie dinner party. Don't worry.... they will be disappearing like her guests very soon.
240 you are one of the dumbest posters here.
this board sucks donkey balls lately.
woo wee that was fun to watch!!!
rubiobot !!
Cruz like a woodpeker on crack but it didn't matter
Ben Carson 2nd bet guy on stage after MR TRUMP got about 5min talking to moron kasich's 15
I sincerely want anyone who ever voted dem to watch and understand this.
LOLZ!!!
NUCLEAR BOMB ON RUBIO!!!!
DID MY PART TODAY!!
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Did your recent vacation from Getbig not teach you anything?
SO why does Coach and a few others get to post pro capitalism posts yet not me?
Republican base voters are showing they care about populism and authoritarianism... but not conservatism.
They like a leader with a strong national message. They don't care that he's essentially a democrat on most positions.
And the way he just wrecked the republican party and neutered top names like Rubio and Cruz. They won't recover.
Republican base voters are showing they care about populism and authoritarianism... but not conservatism.
They like a leader with a strong national message. They don't care that he's essentially a democrat on most positions.
And the way he just wrecked the republican party and neutered top names like Rubio and Cruz. They won't recover.
Republican base voters are showing they care about populism and authoritarianism... but not conservatism.
They like a leader with a strong national message. They don't care that he's essentially a democrat on most positions.
And the way he just wrecked the republican party and neutered top names like Rubio and Cruz. They won't recover.
Trump is the Republican Obama. Full of talk and promises, short on how he's gonna accomplish it. Says stupid things and contradicts himself, gets away with it. Changes positions, no problem. completely in over his head if he wins the job just like Obozo.
Just wait till the press let slip the dogs of war on Trump. They haven't done it so far because they want him to be the nominee. Once he gets the nomination, it's gonna be a shit storm while the press tries to get the Democrat elected. Even Fox hates Trump. They have been exposed as supporters of the Republican establishment. They'd rather have that milquetoast douchebag Marco Rubio win the nomination and then get slaughtered in the general election like John McCain. Head sup asses. Turning a deaf ear to what the people want.
HARDLY
Trump is the anti Obama.
He is a real success not a welfare grubbing political hack, and unlike Obama Trump will make america GREAT AGAIN.
HARDLY
Trump is the anti Obama.
He is a real success not a welfare grubbing political hack, and unlike Obama Trump will make america GREAT AGAIN.
Trump differs from Obama in only one way, he has been successful running businesses.
The areas that they are the same are many. Unqualified egotists full of hot air.
His numerous bankruptcies would say that's incorrect.
His numerous bankruptcies would say that's incorrect.Does he still have a couple million dollars 8)
LOL How? - the jobs are moving to foreign countries faster than ever. Americans want $8-12/hr minimum, while Chinese, Indians and Indonesians get paid a few dollars a day.
The USA is not sustainable and definitely not fixable.
His numerous bankruptcies would say that's incorrect.Horseshit! Out of the 100s of businesses he's owned 4 went under, he hasn't lost anything from that since he was smart about it and essentially jumped ship when those companies sank.
You obviously don't understand business or bankruptcy protection, which is not a surprise to me.
Your post is something I would only expect from a complete simpleton. Perhaps you are not a simpleton and you're just saying something absurd in the hope that actual simpletons will see it and believe it.
Yes. I'm simple.
So whatever you want to believe is fine. It matters not to me.
If you think that you can run a country like a business I've got some bad news for you.
Well, the current crew in Washington DC has run up a $19,000,000,000,000 debt. So I'd posit that NOT running the country like a business hasn't worked out all that well, lol
Yes. I'm simple.
1 year of the GDP isn't really anything.
How many people making 100,000 a year have more than their yearly salary in debt?
Well, I'm glad to finally have that resolved once and for all.
That's only what is listed "on budget". The unfunded liabilities of the US government are estimated to be in excess of $100 trillion dollars.
Trump estimates he's worth 10billion.
Is that accurate?
Your guess is as good as mine! Forbes says he's worth $4.5B, Trump says more (up to $10B). Either way that's a lot of deniros :)
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-forbes (http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-forbes)
From the Alex Jones website:
Former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee told Fox News this morning that Donald Trump’s success represents a peaceful “overthrow of the government” and that the Republican establishment should be glad it’s being achieved with “ballots not bullets.”
Bush white house press boss Ari fleischer has called Trump a 911 Truther.
Trump is VERY good friends with alex jones, the biggest 911 truther in the country.
Trump keeps saying "brought down the buildings" in interviews.
And the majority of americans (something like 80%) doubt the official 911 commission report, which one of its authors called "a whitewash".
Republicans, you're about to choose a 911 Truther who takes his orders from Alex Jones. This shit is laughable!!!
Not really a good point since dems are about to choose Hilary. Both are bad with Hilary being proven a bit moreso at this point. A lot of people are just dumb unfortunately.
Republicans, you're about to choose a 911 Truther who takes his orders from Alex Jones. This shit is laughable!!!
Sometimes it feels like you are holding conversations with yourself in this forum.
Sometimes it feels like you are holding conversations with yourself in this forum.This is the same guy who told me it was going to be a Trump/Rubio ticket. He's a mess. Sad!
Bush white house press boss Ari fleischer has called Trump a 911 Truther.
Trump is VERY good friends with alex jones, the biggest 911 truther in the country.
Trump keeps saying "brought down the buildings" in interviews.
And the majority of americans (something like 80%) doubt the official 911 commission report, which one of its authors called "a whitewash".
Republicans, you're about to choose a 911 Truther who takes his orders from Alex Jones. This shit is laughable!!!
What people are missing is the obvious: The majority want trump!
The majority want trump!
We don't want to Obama the economy any more!!!! 8t to 21t debt is enough!!!!!
WE need to get back to capitalism and success.
Lower pay for lawyers unions teachers and othe government agents who are vastly overpaid!!
Lower restrictions on businesss and production and trade and education!
Cut government spending!! Stop funding solyandra green science adventures based on lies!!
Go wipe your butthole.
Just three days earlier, NBC News ran an extensive exploration of the “ratings” question. It was a fact-check piece based on Mr. Trump making the same “A Rating” claim on Meet the Press. In a story headlined “Better Business Bureau: Trump Right on ‘A’ RatingWhat roids?
Hey Adonis hows the roids?
ones your on to get cut while starving yerself???
Just three days earlier, NBC News ran an extensive exploration of the “ratings” question. It was a fact-check piece based on Mr. Trump making the same “A Rating” claim on Meet the Press. In a story headlined “Better Business Bureau: Trump Right on ‘A’ Rating
Hey Adonis hows the roids?
FDR was not president before the Great Depression. I got you but slow down there chief.
Simple
1 question
Why don't socialists and socialist society offer free house and car and food?
Why is there no country with that?
What's the difference between Hilary and Rubio, say?
???
Help me understand.
How far has this fucked up world gone, that a guy with a will of change, just gets hate and closed doors.
Sadly, most of us are mere peons, watching the real action from afar in the cheap seats with the peanut gallery. ;)
He's about to crack down on H-1B visas.
I dont want this hidden by BS history!
8T to 21T +13T vs all other presidents combined 8T
and we got jack for it!
road airport all crumbling
spending on dumb stuff outa control
both elections stolen
syria n libya wars messes ISIS
Worse than Buchanan on unifying the nation in 1859-60?You mean of course FDR who caused the great depression?
Worse than Hoover in 1929 for the economy?
Really?
Obama had his issues, but you'd really have to be biased to say he was worse than those 2 Presidents.
You mean of course FDR who caused the great depression?
How did FDR cause this great depression when the crash happened before he took office?
I understand the "idea" that government intervention made things take longer to recover or whatever, but there is no actual fact that shows this to be the case.
It's just theory and belief.
You got me blocked on PMs.I'm a buffoon.
I'm a buffoon.
I got rid of it. Sorry about that.
How did FDR cause this great depression when the crash happened before he took office?
I understand the "idea" that government intervention made things take longer to recover or whatever, but there is no actual fact that shows this to be the case.
It's just theory and belief.
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Trump-warns-Israel-Stop-announcing-new-settlements-480446
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Trump-warns-Israel-Stop-announcing-new-settlements-480446 (http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Trump-warns-Israel-Stop-announcing-new-settlements-480446)
SMug so massive its imploding into a black hole!!
God emperor!!!
Big mistake if he continues Obama's treatment of them. Seems as if a lot of people do not have any idea the history of what is going on there and the "border".
Big mistake if he continues Obama's treatment of them. Seems as if a lot of people do not have any idea the history of what is going on there and the "border".
Sounds as if they are still not sure what they are going to do foreign policy-wise in regards to Israel.
Wink Wink Nod nod
and the building continues . . . . .
Wink Wink Nod nod
and the building continues . . . . .
THIS
Someone else said this on here and i laughed...if JFK were alive today as a old school liberal he would be tied up and burned alive by they new "liberals"
Take this with a grain of salt, but Reddit's the_Donald had an AMA w/ a personal friend of President Trump; he's a founding member of Trump National Golf Club, and one of the most influential and highly-recognized advisors to the Trump campaign’s online and digital efforts. As a professional he is a Partner and Creative Director at one of New York’s most successful marketing and consulting agencies, and continues to consult and advise behind the scenes during the Trump administration.
Here is what he said about Soros:
We are well aware of liberals and the destruction they are capable of. We are also well aware of George Soros and his influence, particularly financially, with America's biggest social problems. Even more importantly, Soros knows that we know and is already attempting to hide his financial network from us to avoid whats coming his way. His son has taken over US operations while he attempts to rally Europe behind Anti-Trumpism. It wont work - the money flow will soon cease as will his power to influence our great nation. Until then, keep his name in the headlines so he feels the heat. Berkeley is partially a reaction to our most recent moves.
;)
JFK was a commy like FDR.
We need to cut gov spending and controls 90%
get back to 1800s with 20% growth and no government help
99% less lawyers judges and laws
LOL! That would take work ethic and personal accountability, and everyone under the age of 40 doesn't seem to have that any more.
He's got too much money and power...if they throw his ass in jail he will still operate...just do a hit on him...done
It happens a lot. More fake hate crimes than real ones I think. Hate crime legislation is pretty fucking stupid to begin with.
Hate is an emotion. People are allowed to hate. The govt can't force people to like each other.
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/111050795#p111062337 (http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/111050795#p111062337)
I read one about a female student in nyc I believe who said some dudes harassed her and took her head scarf from her. After investigating it was determined to be fake. She told the police that she was out at a party and didn't want her parents to know. Disgusting.