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Bob,
As a longtime reader of this site for some years now I decided to register after reading more and more. I retired as a police officer today as a matter of fact, and read one of the topics about a subject being subdued with a taser. To my surprise I saw all the hatred for law enforcement which I can understand some, but I was shocked at the level displayed. Most of the guys I worked with really respect bodybuilders and the iron game if you will. I was a bit dismayed by all the negatives against the cops. Sure law enforcement busts people for roids, but if they are there what is one to do? We don't hunt them down. Maybe DEA or other feds. Never saw any cop ever take any drugs from a search warrant or anywhere else for that matter. Guys like that do stuff like that around other dirty pricks. Like any place else the dirt hang with the dirt. In other words dirty people do things around others that do the same. Small minority of cops. Trust me. They are there, but few.
My 1st point is yeah there are guys that give us guys (the 90%'s) a bad name, but we do not go out and wish to rough people up. The 10% are unable to restrain and handle their fear, their love of power etc.. The majority of us are just like all of you, a bunch of ball busters that really are out to do the right thing. We don't want to fight all the time and risk injuries and load tickets on people. Many of you would be surprised we are just like you guys. Some juice and many do not. All jobs have the same amount of dicks. We just get more attention and maybe deservedly so. Bob, my 2nd point is thank you for your level headed thinking when it came to the aforementioned video.
We go to scenes where there are guns involved and if someone does not show their hands or whatever, then yeah it can get ugly and look bad. Police work is not graceful and it can get violent, but I can tell you this, if someone complies the 90%'s with put the cuffs on you without incident. Videos do not tell the whole story guys. We get lots of info beforehand and until you've been there you can't judge and be 100% spot on with your opinion. I don't know if those cops were right or wrong. I was not there and I never make judgment unless I'm there, cause I did the job for years and gained some wisdom along the way.
Bob and the others that made some sound comments I appreciate it. For the others that do not trust or do not like cops I hope that you understand that the 90%'s hate that the 10%'s have messed up our image and goal toward the public. I get such a kick out of reading these forums that it made me laugh when I got home from a horrible shift and I had many ugly scenes in my head from work. This forum at times has been pretty good therapy if you will. Bob, I think you have a good idea what cops are like having been through the police academy. Always a pleasure my friend. Today was my last day on the job and hopefully bigger and much better days lie ahead. Take care brothers.
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Pretty epic first post
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Actually, I have some good friends that are police officers, and enjoy the sport of bodybuilding, and respect the job. 95% of police officers are cool.
But, like many things, the few tend to ruin it for others. On the power trip, busting people because of looks good and an easy 'bust' reg steroids for personal use and more instead of going after hardcore criminals and violent offenders.
So yes, many people respect police officers, but like anything, a few ruin it.
As for competitors, quite a few compete! I happened to take pics at the Police Games in Santa Clarita a few years back, and that was a great experience! 30-40 bodybuilders who liked working out, and competing.
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pretty sure bob was just talking out of his ass when he posted in that tazer thread
ive heard from a few sources that bob was a mall security guard who always wanted to be a real cop
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LEO's are people too.
It's about that simple.
Justice can live in anyone.
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Bob,
As a longtime reader of this site for some years now I decided to register after reading more and more. I retired as a police officer today as a matter of fact, and read one of the topics about a subject being subdued with a taser. To my surprise I saw all the hatred for law enforcement which I can understand some, but I was shocked at the level displayed. Most of the guys I worked with really respect bodybuilders and the iron game if you will. I was a bit dismayed by all the negatives against the cops. Sure law enforcement busts people for roids, but if they are there what is one to do? We don't hunt them down. Maybe DEA or other feds. Never saw any cop ever take any drugs from a search warrant or anywhere else for that matter. Guys like that do stuff like that around other dirty pricks. Like any place else the dirt hang with the dirt. In other words dirty people do things around others that do the same. Small minority of cops. Trust me. They are there, but few.
My 1st point is yeah there are guys that give us guys (the 90%'s) a bad name, but we do not go out and wish to rough people up. The 10% are unable to restrain and handle their fear, their love of power etc.. The majority of us are just like all of you, a bunch of ball busters that really are out to do the right thing. We don't want to fight all the time and risk injuries and load tickets on people. Many of you would be surprised we are just like you guys. Some juice and many do not. All jobs have the same amount of dicks. We just get more attention and maybe deservedly so. Bob, my 2nd point is thank you for your level headed thinking when it came to the aforementioned video.
We go to scenes where there are guns involved and if someone does not show their hands or whatever, then yeah it can get ugly and look bad. Police work is not graceful and it can get violent, but I can tell you this, if someone complies the 90%'s with put the cuffs on you without incident. Videos do not tell the whole story guys. We get lots of info beforehand and until you've been there you can't judge and be 100% spot on with your opinion. I don't know if those cops were right or wrong. I was not there and I never make judgment unless I'm there, cause I did the job for years and gained some wisdom along the way.
Bob and the others that made some sound comments I appreciate it. For the others that do not trust or do not like cops I hope that you understand that the 90%'s hate that the 10%'s have messed up our image and goal toward the public. I get such a kick out of reading these forums that it made me laugh when I got home from a horrible shift and I had many ugly scenes in my head from work. This forum at times has been pretty good therapy if you will. Bob, I think you have a good idea what cops are like having been through the police academy. Always a pleasure my friend. Today was my last day on the job and hopefully bigger and much better days lie ahead. Take care brothers.
Appreciate the comments, sir...
My ain point to the uninformed, is that viewing a 2 in clip on the internet doesnt always tell the whole story...and 99% of the time, if the subject would simply follow the command given by the officer, the situation is resolved without incident.
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Appreciate the comments, sir...
My ain point to the uninformed, is that viewing a 2 in clip on the internet doesnt always tell the whole story...and 99% of the time, if the subject would simply follow the command given by the officer, the situation is resolved without incident.
Please explain why you didn't choose 98% Bob
If you can't, then admit to throwing out arbitrary numbers backed up by zero evidence
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Please explain why you didn't choose 98% Bob
If you can't, then admit to throwing out arbitrary numbers backed up by zero evidence
It illustrates a point, which was obviously lost on you....
As usual
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Please explain why you didn't choose 98% Bob
If you can't, then admit to throwing out arbitrary numbers backed up by zero evidence
Don't forget to ask the same of the site owner. Behold!
Actually, I have some good friends that are police officers, and enjoy the sport of bodybuilding, and respect the job. 95% of police officers are cool.
But, like many things, the few tend to ruin it for others. On the power trip, busting people because of looks good and an easy 'bust' reg steroids for personal use and more instead of going after hardcore criminals and violent offenders.
So yes, many people respect police officers, but like anything, a few ruin it.
As for competitors, quite a few compete! I happened to take pics at the Police Games in Santa Clarita a few years back, and that was a great experience! 30-40 bodybuilders who liked working out, and competing.
Don't think this means I don't think highly of you, I do. I also think highly of Bob.
I'm Reeves, the Magic Mulatto™ and I approve this message. Later Magoo.
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Bob,
That discussion compelled me to register on Getbig, which is very unlike me. I sit and observe and am very entertained by the topics here, but I wanted to just say thanks. You are 100% right. A 2 minute video tells very little. Just like going to a crime scene or a call. What appears to be obvious can change real quick after getting all sides of the story. I am not quick to judge after years of seeing a lot of people and interviews. I will go back to reading and probably won't hear from me again, so again thank you Bob and take care my friend. Funny friggin' site.
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Ron, how can you say 95% of policemen are "cool"? Ever had false charges levied against you? Ever been pulled over by a dickhead? Ever had evidence planted in your car? Cops suck. They are mostly scumbags and if they don't start that way they end up that way. 95% douchebags.
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Definitely needs to be more respect for police, like these, who work hard to keep steroids off the street.
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Lose the "code" and then maybe we can start talking about respect. Cops lie under oath every day there in court. The system is so corrupt that its become obvious that the judge is also in on it. How can anyone respect Liars? Even if they think they're lying for the good of the people.
Pro bodybuilders also lie almost everyday about drug use. They too think their doing it for the good of the people.
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Yep, we have some juicers. Worked with a guy that was jacked and we never had to call for back up when in a fight. I have nothing against people that choose to enhance their life with hormones. I feel the laws are tainted in that chaz bono can get testosterone to become a man, yet a man is breaking the law if he does it without vast documentation. I realize some cops give the majority a bad name. They are the minority, trust me. My point is we have to enforce laws that may seem trivial, but they are there for a reason. We don't like to enforce parking, traffic etc.. A lot goes into being a cop and until you've been there you will not understand. When you ride with the guys for a week, you will be a changed person with an understanding of why we do what we do.
i have said this before and will say it again. nothing wrong with cops juicing. if my family is trouble and i am not there give me a 300lb juiced to the gills cop in great shape to come to there rescue
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Bob,
As a longtime reader of this site for some years now I decided to register after reading more and more. I retired as a police officer today as a matter of fact, and read one of the topics about a subject being subdued with a taser. To my surprise I saw all the hatred for law enforcement which I can understand some, but I was shocked at the level displayed. Most of the guys I worked with really respect bodybuilders and the iron game if you will. I was a bit dismayed by all the negatives against the cops. Sure law enforcement busts people for roids, but if they are there what is one to do? We don't hunt them down. Maybe DEA or other feds. Never saw any cop ever take any drugs from a search warrant or anywhere else for that matter. Guys like that do stuff like that around other dirty pricks. Like any place else the dirt hang with the dirt. In other words dirty people do things around others that do the same. Small minority of cops. Trust me. They are there, but few.
My 1st point is yeah there are guys that give us guys (the 90%'s) a bad name, but we do not go out and wish to rough people up. The 10% are unable to restrain and handle their fear, their love of power etc.. The majority of us are just like all of you, a bunch of ball busters that really are out to do the right thing. We don't want to fight all the time and risk injuries and load tickets on people. Many of you would be surprised we are just like you guys. Some juice and many do not. All jobs have the same amount of dicks. We just get more attention and maybe deservedly so. Bob, my 2nd point is thank you for your level headed thinking when it came to the aforementioned video.
We go to scenes where there are guns involved and if someone does not show their hands or whatever, then yeah it can get ugly and look bad. Police work is not graceful and it can get violent, but I can tell you this, if someone complies the 90%'s with put the cuffs on you without incident. Videos do not tell the whole story guys. We get lots of info beforehand and until you've been there you can't judge and be 100% spot on with your opinion. I don't know if those cops were right or wrong. I was not there and I never make judgment unless I'm there, cause I did the job for years and gained some wisdom along the way.
Bob and the others that made some sound comments I appreciate it. For the others that do not trust or do not like cops I hope that you understand that the 90%'s hate that the 10%'s have messed up our image and goal toward the public. I get such a kick out of reading these forums that it made me laugh when I got home from a horrible shift and I had many ugly scenes in my head from work. This forum at times has been pretty good therapy if you will. Bob, I think you have a good idea what cops are like having been through the police academy. Always a pleasure my friend. Today was my last day on the job and hopefully bigger and much better days lie ahead. Take care brothers.
Hi Bob
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Cops should not juice when against the law. How can you respect a police force that breaks the very laws they are trying to uphold?
It's called corruption. Cops who juice and break the law should be punished much more severely than John Juicer off the street.
My point is we have to enforce laws that may seem trivial, but they are there for a reason. We don't like to enforce parking, traffic etc..
And enforcement should start within first.
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Definitely needs to be more respect for police, like these, who work hard to keep steroids off the street.
(http://oi53.tinypic.com/2cwolx.jpg)
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Be honest Bob, did you really do steroids? :-\
(http://velocity.t-nation.com/forum_images/9/6/96d2f-bob_cicherillo.jpg)
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Rush,
Nice first post. I am not going to finger point or bad mouth because that is not my thing either. I do want to state some observations though. Most cops in my experience, are on a power trip. Down to earth, sure. Are some nice guys with good families? Sure. My ex of 3 years father was a police chief. However, something about when the uniform goes on, gives all of you guys a power trip. I've felt it myself. I used to bounce at a high end night club and for whatever reason, when the suit would go on and the ear piece would go in, you felt a bit more powerful. Whether it is because cops have the whole force and legal system by their side or they get a hard on for intimidating people, something about the position induces a napoleon like power complex.
I knew an italian kid in college who was always trying to be a tough guy but whenever he would step on the wrong toes, he'd get his ass kicked. Now, he's a cop... of course! Now I see him on his facebook page making postings about "keeping the streets clean from the gorillas in harlem" and other obnoxious shit like that when meanwhile if he was thrown out on the street as a normal guy, he'd be getting his ass kicked like he was back in college.
It's similar to the fraternity effect. A kid who is in a frat can go around campus and be laughed at by everyone, however when friday night rolls around, and it's time to party, and he is in his frat house, he is well respected and acts like he is the man, even if he would never get that respect otherwise. Cops, same thing. Uniform goes on, and they get the power and respect that they would most likely never get in life if it wasn't for their position held, and if someone tries to question that power, well, then as we all know, cops love to flex that badge and the legal system they have supporting it whether they are right or wrong.
My point is, that although maybe only 10% of cops are corrupt and many are really good guys, most, if not all cops that I have encountered, have a power complex of some sort and it shows in and out of their daily life from the time the uniform goes on until it is taken off. Hey, I'm a bodybuilder (IE. I'm a drug addict), and we have plenty of issues our selves as you know if you have read this board. Bodybuilders are drug addicts and cops have a power complex. We all have issues, but let's accept them for what they are.
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why would anyone hate officers of the peace ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Most people like and respect cops. Most cops deserve their like and respect. However there is a small minority of people who hate cops and a small minority of cops who deserve the hate. You'll find it is no different on Getbig. Take the "Police State official thread" It's become nothing but a place for one or two cop haters to bash cops. There is no discussing the issue with them, they just aren't all that rational.
Appreciate your post and the service you did for your community.
Ag
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the cop said 10%, Ron said 5% are "bad". Out of 800,000 cops out there, that would give us somewhere between 40,000 and 80,000 assholes with batons and guns who get off on fucking up people and their lives.
i hope the number's less.
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the cop said 10%, Ron said 5% are "bad". Out of 800,000 cops out there, that would give us somewhere between 40,000 and 80,000 assholes with batons and guns who get off on fucking up people and their lives.
i hope the number's less.
Hard to say MBP, I know it differs from department to department depending on many things. We have about 1700 sworn officers here, and usually throughout the year you can count on 1 or 2 doing something criminal like giving a prostitute his wife's Harley Davidson boots and warning her of pending warrants (true story) to using excessive force in a situation etc etc. The atmosphere for bad cops is not conducive to a long career here and not tolerated. If I had to guess based on what I've seen personally and read from civil service letters when they are disciplined or terminated, probably less than 20 on the department at any given time.
not all departments have cameras and reporting requirements of use of force that are pretty rigid so like I said, it varies. Couple that with recruiting criteria, training and pay and expectations set forth by management, and you can minimize the bad ones.
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Hard to say MBP, I know it differs from department to department depending on many things. We have about 1700 sworn officers here, and usually throughout the year you can count on 1 or 2 doing something criminal like giving a prostitute his wife's Harley Davidson boots and warning her of pending warrants (true story) to using excessive force in a situation etc etc. The atmosphere for bad cops is not conducive to a long career here and not tolerated. If I had to guess based on what I've seen personally and read from civil service letters when they are disciplined or terminated, probably less than 20 on the department at any given time.
not all departments have cameras and reporting requirements of use of force that are pretty rigid so like I said, it varies. Couple that with recruiting criteria, training and pay and expectations set forth by management, and you can minimize the bad ones.
two of my best friends are cops, one in one of the worst cities in America, and I could easily see them blowing their lid, as we've all had short tempers as kids. but so far, both have shown themselves to be examplary cops; maybe the stint in the marine corps straightened them out.
i'm not gonna bash cops as it's a shitty job with little payoff, but they know damn well what they're getting themselves into (or do they?) to take on the job.
the stress never gets better, and with the generation nothingness / generation "i will put you on youtube" i myself would be tempted to pull some of these kids around the corner and face fuck them with my elbow.
but it just can't be done, and for the amount of times it does happen, it's actually not that bad. but unfortunately, when it does happen, it's almost always an extreme case. it's hardly ever someone complaining they got slapped by a cap; it's always shit like that guy up top who got his skull kicked in.
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the cop said 10%, Ron said 5% are "bad". Out of 800,000 cops out there, that would give us somewhere between 40,000 and 80,000 assholes with batons and guns who get off on fucking up people and their lives.
i hope the number's less.
it is less...much less. There are a few bad apples in every walk of like, bad doctors, lawyers, politicians, priests, etc...
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it is less...much less. There are a few bad apples in every walk of like, bad doctors, lawyers, politicians, priests, etc...
...bodybuilders (present company accepted). :D
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it is less...much less. There are a few bad apples in every walk of like, bad doctors, lawyers, politicians, priests, etc...
X2, but of course those bad apples give a black eye to the the rest of the officers.
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Why would cops be so nice to professional bodybuilders when they use illicit drugs, but be extremely happy to incarcerate someone for cocaine use?
Doesn't make much sense.
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Why would cops be so nice to professional bodybuilders when they use illicit drugs, but be extremely happy to incarcerate someone for cocaine use?
Doesn't make much sense.
Really? This is confusing to you?
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hide yamagotchi said he was well treated by the cops they even got him some tins of tuna, nice piggys.
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I don't even count steroids as corruption, there's a coffee shop here that turns into an illegal bar at night, it's owned by the mob, the dj is a narcotics officer, he's undercover and I guess that coffee shop is his beat because he never leaves it, in the back of this place behind two little curtains are illegal slot machines lol... I have met people here who fill a room with fear when they walk in, near homeless dudes wearing huge diamon watches on their wrist, always on pain killers, never stop smoking lol... fun place to be sometimes
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Really? This is confusing to you?
Yes... because illegal is illegal.
Do you not understand that concept?
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Yes... because illegal is illegal.
Do you not understand that concept?
It's not illegal, it's controlled, if they have a prescription they are breaking no law
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Yes... because illegal is illegal.
Do you not understand that concept?
People place different values on different "illegalities"...some think prostitution and pot should be legal and see no harm in either one, same with anabolics. In 50 years, people will laugh that this was once an illegal drug, as using test, GH, etc will be as commonplace as getting a tune up on your car. Alcohol was illegal once as well...
Cigarettes kill more people than anything in this world, yet are sold at every store you pass...why arent they illegal?
Cops could give a rats ass about AAS, when cocaine and other mind altering drugs account for more crime, etc than anything else...no one is knocking over a bank for a deca fix...
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People place different values on different "illegalities"...some think prostitution and pot should be legal and see no harm in either one, same with anabolics. In 50 years, people will laugh that this was once an illegal drug, as using test, GH, etc will be as commonplace as getting a tune up on your car. Alcohol was illegal once as well...
Cigarettes kill more people than anything in this world, yet are sold at every store you pass...why arent they illegal?
Cops could give a rats ass about AAS, when cocaine and other mind altering drugs account for more crime, etc than anything else...no one is knocking over a bank for a deca fix...
you haven't heard of nathan jones well have you chickaroo he did exactly that robbed a bank to buy steroids.
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Yep, we have some juicers. Worked with a guy that was jacked and we never had to call for back up when in a fight. I have nothing against people that choose to enhance their life with hormones. I feel the laws are tainted in that chaz bono can get testosterone to become a man, yet a man is breaking the law if he does it without vast documentation. I realize some cops give the majority a bad name. They are the minority, trust me. My point is we have to enforce laws that may seem trivial, but they are there for a reason. We don't like to enforce parking, traffic etc.. A lot goes into being a cop and until you've been there you will not understand. When you ride with the guys for a week, you will be a changed person with an understanding of why we do what we do.
The vast majority of cops I have worked out with are decent, straight up guys.
It's a tough job and if a hard working cop needs a little juice to help 'em out, I say go for it.
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People place different values on different "illegalities"...some think prostitution and pot should be legal and see no harm in either one, same with anabolics. In 50 years, people will laugh that this was once an illegal drug, as using test, GH, etc will be as commonplace as getting a tune up on your car. Alcohol was illegal once as well...
Cigarettes kill more people than anything in this world, yet are sold at every store you pass...why arent they illegal?
Cops could give a rats ass about AAS, when cocaine and other mind altering drugs account for more crime, etc than anything else...no one is knocking over a bank for a deca fix...
Moral limbo is the bane of any society, Bob. Don't believe me? Rome comes to mind...
Alcohol was legal and then made illegal. It was made legal once more and you know as well as any here with an IQ above room temperature why. Personally, I don't drink alcoholic beverages but it is legal to do so, but in public only up to a certain point (i.e., alcohol level in one's bloodstream). In some areas such as public beaches, it is illegal to consume alcohol.
People place different values on different illegalities? For the greater part I think that is due to the fact that those that desire to participate in activities that are illegal and/or disgusting justify their participation in whatever manner they can. Why? Because they want to do whatever it is they want to do. Perverts justify their perversions. Alcoholics justify their drinking. Druggies do the same with their habit.
Bodybuilders taking PEDs are no different than a heroin addict in their habitual use/abuse of anabolic androgenic steroids, growth hormone, pain killers and the like. Moral limbo. How low will some go? Society's bane indeed.
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Moral limbo is the bane of any society, Bob. Don't believe me? Rome comes to mind...
Alcohol was legal and then made illegal. It was made legal once more and you know as well as any here with an IQ above room temperature why. Personally, I don't drink alcoholic beverages but it is legal to do so, but in public only up to a certain point (i.e., alcohol level in one's bloodstream). In some areas such as public beaches, it is illegal to consume alcohol.
People place different values on different illegalities? For the greater part I think that is due to the fact that those that desire to participate in activities that are illegal and/or disgusting justify their participation in whatever manner they can. Why? Because they want to do whatever it is they want to do. Perverts justify their perversions. Alcoholics justify their drinking. Druggies do the same with their habit.
Bodybuilders taking PEDs are no different than a heroin addict in their habitual use/abuse of anabolic androgenic steroids, growth hormone, pain killers and the like. Moral limbo. How low will some go? Society's bane indeed.
Whether or not it affects others is the main point of contention...
Using AAS doesnt interfere or affect anyone except the user...as opposed to crack, coke, heroin, etc...you can cite "morals" all you want, but thats a very debatable and vast subject matter.
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The vast majority of cops I have worked out with are decent, straight up guys.
It's a tough job and if a hard working cop needs a little juice to help 'em out, I say go for it.
You can't be serious. You think a cop should break the very law which he has sworn to uphold?
The right thing to do would be to quit the force if he wants to juice, not become corrupt.
Some cop might feel he needs a little amphetamines when chasing crackheads. I say go for it. ::)
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Whether or not it affects others is the main point of contention...
Using AAS doesnt interfere or affect anyone except the user...as opposed to crack, coke, heroin, etc...you can cite "morals" all you want, but thats a very debatable and vast subject matter.
Your supposition is incorrect but your position on this subject is to be expected. Exempli gratia that your statement as quoted above is patently false? Your friend Tom Prince. His wife and family were never affected by his use and abuse of AAS and the subsequent deterioration of his renal system? BS. And his quality of life has been vastly improved by the use of AAS? That is not even debatable. He looks like a washed up paperboy working at Hot Topic. Had he avoided drugs, he could have built a superb physique within the boundaries of his genetic potential and (for example, barring any unseen congenital problems) had a normal healthy life.
Neither of us is stupid, but in this matter only one of us is right. That would be me. And no, I am not picking on you. I happen to like you but I also happen to dislike AAS and for more reasons than just the "cheating" factor.
As for the subject of morals, be assured that there are standards. Whether or not people choose to abide by them is entirely up to every individual. Again, moral limbo. I choose to walk with my head held as high as my little body will carry it. Just because the bar has been lowered by others does not mean I have to crawl under it with the rest of the snakes on their bellies.
I choose to step over that shit. Not in it.
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Your supposition is incorrect but your position on this subject is to be expected. Exempli gratia that your statement as quoted above is patently false? Your friend Tom Prince. His wife and family were never affected by his use and abuse of AAS and the subsequent deterioration of his renal system? BS. And his quality of life has been vastly improved by the use of AAS? That is not even debatable. He looks like a washed up paperboy working at Hot Topic. Had he avoided drugs, he could have built a superb physique within the boundaries of his genetic potential and (for example, barring any unseen congenital problems)had a normal healthy life.
Neither of us is stupid, but in this matter only one of us is right. That would be me. And no, I am not picking on you. I happen to like you but I also happen to dislike AAS and for more reasons than just the "cheating" factor.
As for the subject of morals, be assured that there are standards whether or not people choose to abide by them is entirely up to every individual. Again, moral limbo. I choose to walk with my head held as high as my little body will carry it. Just because the bar has been lowered by others does not mean I have to crawl under it with the rest of the snakes on their bellies.
I choose to step over that shit. Not in it.
Oddly enough, you should use TP as an example, and then go on to say that his example is not even debatable....especially when youre completly, 100%, wrong.
AAS wasnt TP's problem...it was everything ELSE....including over the counterproducts which lead to more kidney damage, problems than any other single factor.
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Oddly enough, you should use TP as an example, and then go on to say that his example is not even debatable....especially when youre completly, 100%, wrong.
AAS wasnt TP's problem...it was everything ELSE....including over the counterproducts which lead to more kidney damage, problems than any other single factor.
AAA
Oh, please. Your attempt to debate me on this subject is akin to my entering a physique competition against you. Even were you to lose 100 pounds of muscle I would be no match for the truth that you are physically superior to me in every way. ;D
You don't have to be smarter than me to know this, just honest enough to acknowledge it. You would easily defeat me in any physical contest. But this is not a contest of brawn nor brain, just honesty. You may well be blinded by "friendship" to Prince.
Nah. ;) ;D
TP was a druggie and has paid the price for his ignorance and abuse. AAS did nothing to contribute to his downfall? Do not belittle yourself so, my friend.
Now then... When's the posedown? ;D I am gonna get my ass whooped.
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The vast majority of cops I have worked out with are decent, straight up guys.
It's a tough job and if a hard working cop needs a little juice to help 'em out, I say go for it.
On every police application their is a section about drug use including steroids. Officers are held to a higher moral standard than the general public. So, regardless of whether steroids are mind altering, and this is up for debate by some, officers and potential officers should not be using substances deemed illegal. What diifferentiates a good officer from a bad one is morals. If an officer is willing to lower his or her moral compass with regards to steroids there is no telling what other laws they may be capable of breaking.
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On every police application their is a section about drug use including steroids. Officers are held to a higher moral standard than the general public. So, regardless of whether steroids are mind altering, and this is up for debate by some, officers and potential officers should not be using substances deemed illegal. What diifferentiates a good officer from a bad one is morals. If an officer is willing to lower his or her moral compass with regards to steroids there is no telling what other laws they may be capable of breaking.
I tend to agree with you. I personally think pot and prostitution should not be illegal. I personally think AAS should not be illegal. Because I am a cop, I don't participate in any of it . Well, that's not the only reason but it is reason enough.
I think the reality is a cop could use AAS and it would not be an indicator he or she would break other laws, but I have a problem with cops violating the laws they enforce or are expected to enforce.
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I tend to agree with you. I personally think pot and prostitution should not be illegal. I personally think AAS should not be illegal. Because I am a cop, I don't participate in any of it . Well, that's not the only reason but it is reason enough.
I think the reality is a cop could use AAS and it would not be an indicator he or she would break other laws, but I have a problem with cops violating the laws they enforce or are expected to enforce.
Well said. I know more than a few LEOs that think as you do and they continue to enforce the laws they swore to uphold as well as refuse to compromise their position of authority by giving in to breaking said laws. Prior to it becoming a felony I knew of two LEOs that that took AAS. When it became a felony to do so, they quit cold turkey. As expected they lost size and strength but retained their honor. And their jobs.
They regained a good deal of size and strength as they continued to train. Nothing like when juiced but perhaps for those two perhaps AAS was indeed, the "finishing touch".
;D If ever I see them, I'll ask. I suspect they are both retired by now.
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let me troll in response:
1. nathan jones, the only example in the history of humanity of robbing a bank for roid money...this should somehow start a war on roid users to prevent this from happening in the future?
2. chick just said tp got fucked up because he did everything else, not because of aas. i do not think aas are a gateway drug, but the pro bbing lifestyle might be. i don't know, i've never been one.
3. i hung out with one of my friends mentioned above, and he brought a guy out that works with him. they both put about 20 beers in them each, both drove separately, and the other guy was obviously juiced to the gills. when asked what would happen if they got pulled over, they laughed and just told me they take the side roads, whatever the fuck that means. so they were breaking the law, with the other guy breaking 2 at once. was he a cock? apparently he just got married (basically saving some girl from her shit life, pulling her out of some po dunk town he was from), has 2 kids, a mortgage and car payment and is the nicest guy in their station. who am i to question him on his dbol regimen? he probably shouldn't be drunk driving.
4. it all comes down to stereotyping, as usual. yes, if enough people say it, it must be true, but such is life. as a cop , they should deal with it.
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There is no slack for officers drinking and driving in my jurisdiction. Those days have been long gone. Can't speak to other places. If an officer stops a cop here, sadly, they actually go futher than they would with a regular citizen. I.A. gets involved and the blood is drawn, no choice for the stopped off duty cop or he gets fired.
If you stop a off duty cop and it is shown he was intoxicated and you did NOT arrest, you are fired, period. I guess it's not the same everywhere.
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There is no slack for officers drinking and driving in my jurisdiction. Those days have been long gone. Can't speak to other places. If an officer stops a cop here, sadly, they actually go futher than they would with a regular citizen. I.A. gets involved and the blood is drawn, no choice for the stopped off duty cop or he gets fired.
If you stop a off duty cop and it is shown he was intoxicated and you did NOT arrest, you are fired, period. I guess it's not the same everywhere.
Of course its not the same everywhere or there would literally be hundreds of police officers being arrested every week. The shit is swept under the rug all the time.
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There is no slack for officers drinking and driving in my jurisdiction. Those days have been long gone. Can't speak to other places. If an officer stops a cop here, sadly, they actually go futher than they would with a regular citizen. I.A. gets involved and the blood is drawn, no choice for the stopped off duty cop or he gets fired.
If you stop a off duty cop and it is shown he was intoxicated and you did NOT arrest, you are fired, period. I guess it's not the same everywhere.
Good policy, should also carry over to any illegal activity. We just had a Boynton Beach Police officer arrested for dealing a large quantity of meth. He was on house arrest and getting paid administrative leave. Now he is a fugitive, just took off and the FBI is now tracking him. >:(
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There is no slack for officers drinking and driving in my jurisdiction. Those days have been long gone. Can't speak to other places. If an officer stops a cop here, sadly, they actually go futher than they would with a regular citizen. I.A. gets involved and the blood is drawn, no choice for the stopped off duty cop or he gets fired.
If you stop a off duty cop and it is shown he was intoxicated and you did NOT arrest, you are fired, period. I guess it's not the same everywhere.
Your jurisdiction must be unlike all the rest in the country.
I've seen cops go through checkpoints in their own jurisdictions and because they were in the passenger seat, the driver was allowed to go... drunk as hell.
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Appreciate the comments, sir...
My ain point to the uninformed, is that viewing a 2 in clip on the internet doesnt always tell the whole story...and 99% of the time, if the subject would simply follow the command given by the officer, the situation is resolved without incident.
Like the one were you see a white police officer punch a black girl - took 2 days and the thing was viral, course everybody called blood and were experts in law enforcement.
Funny thing happened after everybody on the Internet calmed down, a video emerged were the girl publicly apologiesed and said she stared it by pushing and trying to hit the cop course that was never shown on the video, they left that part out ;)
I LIKE cops, as much as I like spiders tell you why, we could not live our lifes without both of them.
They both do an awesome job keeping us as save as possible.
Cops do not get enough credit for the awesome work they do - its always easy to hate on a cop but I tell you something next time you get stopped by a cop for speeding be very nice apologies and wish him a great day.
Or how about this when did you guys any of you guys bought a loads of donuts and dropped them off the local police station, say thanks for the great work guys enjoy these.
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Your jurisdiction must be unlike all the rest in the country.
I've seen cops go through checkpoints in their own jurisdictions and because they were in the passenger seat, the driver was allowed to go... drunk as hell.
holmes, we've already established from your past personal testimonies about cops that either you embelish a LOT or you are just about everywhere, all the time. You seem to be everywhere that a cop is doing something wrong... amazing. Start using your smart phone to document these incredible sightings.
No one is saying there aren't bad cops but with your frequency of finding them, I am shocked you haven't a Sasquatch sighting or two under your belt ;)
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holmes, we've already established from your past personal testimonies about cops that either you embelish a LOT or you are just about everywhere, all the time. You seem to be everywhere that a cop is doing something wrong... amazing. Start using your smart phone to document these incredible sightings.
No... I just happen to have had a lot of cops I hung out with.
You call them embellishment when they are actual facts. I can even give you approximate dates and times and names, but I'm not going to throw other people under the bus like that.
I have no stated anything that is not 100 percent factual... Just because you like to turn a blind eye to what really happens doesn't mean everyone else should.
You keep sticking your head in the sand and thinking that your trusted "fraternity" is so clean and righteous.
You're part of the problem for not admitting when there are issues.
I'm not the anonymous poster here... You are.
My name is Tu Holmes and anyone can find me if they want.
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No... I just happen to have had a lot of cops I hung out with.
You call them embellishment when they are actual facts. I can even give you approximate dates and times and names, but I'm not going to throw other people under the bus like that.
I have no stated anything that is not 100 percent factual... Just because you like to turn a blind eye to what really happens doesn't mean everyone else should.
You keep sticking your head in the sand and thinking that your trusted "fraternity" is so clean and righteous.
You're part of the problem for not admitting when there are issues.
You've already had to eat crow on a statment you made before..remember? Something along the lines of you know many cops who....then when called out changed it to...1 cop... And I have ALWAYS said there are issues... but where we disagree is on the extent of the issue.
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You've alreaqdy had to eat crow on a statment you made before..remember? And I have ALWAYS said there are issues... but where we disagree is on the extent of the issue.
What statement was that?
I'm sure it was some minor thing that you're saying is a HUGE embellishment.
Appropriate use of rolley eyes here ::)
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There is no slack for officers drinking and driving in my jurisdiction. Those days have been long gone. Can't speak to other places. If an officer stops a cop here, sadly, they actually go futher than they would with a regular citizen. I.A. gets involved and the blood is drawn, no choice for the stopped off duty cop or he gets fired.
If you stop a off duty cop and it is shown he was intoxicated and you did NOT arrest, you are fired, period. I guess it's not the same everywhere.
You must be a Rookie cop
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What statement was that?
I'm sure it was some minor thing that you're saying is a HUGE embellishment.
Appropriate use of rolley eyes here ::)
Something along the lines of you know lots of cops who....then when called out changed it to...1 cop... And I have ALWAYS said there are issues... but where we disagree is on the extent of the issue.
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You must be a Rookie cop
Yeah, only 28 yrs in the business.
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Yeah, only 28 yrs in the business.
You're talking about when I said that I knew a cops who was killed in the line of duty?
Yes... I know 1 cop who was killed in the line of duty.
Or was this when I said I knew cops who were let go from their department for sexually harassing underage girls?
Yes, I added an "s" and it was a single cop who did that.
So if you think adding an "s" is some huge embellishment, you may be retarded.
(I didn't say "cops" in both instances" I just said it once... so it's not like I used the plural both times.)
Which one did I "embellish"?
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You're talking about when I said that I knew a cops who was killed in the line of duty?
Yes... I know 1 cop who was killed in the line of duty.
Or was this when I said I knew cops who were let go from their department for sexually harassing underage girls?
Yes, I added an "s" and it was a single cop who did that.
So if you think adding an "s" is some huge embellishment, you may be retarded.
Let's be honest.. when you posted the original post.. you intended to indicate you were in the know with cops, and knew lots of cops who were killed in the line of duty. In fact you said that very thing. When called on it you admitted you only knew one. Spin it hover you feel comfortable, I really don't care
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Let's be honest.. when you posted the original post.. you intended to indicate you were in the know with cops, and knew lots of cops who were killed in the line of duty. In fact you said that very thing. When called on it you admitted you only knew one. Spin it hover you feel comfortable, I really don't care
Dude... you are full of shit.
When people talk about things, they use general phrases and common sense people understand that when I say "you", I don't always mean "YOU".
You know, it means YOU THE PEOPLE.
So when someone says "they know cops who have been killed in the line of duty" it means a general sense of knowing cops and that one has been killed.
For you to truly nitpick that I only know 1 cop who was killed in the line of duty is pretty stupid when you KNOW what I was talking about.
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Dude... you are full of shit.
When people talk about things, they use general phrases and common sense people understand that when I say "you", I don't always mean "YOU".
You know, it means YOU THE PEOPLE.
So when someone says "they know cops who have been killed in the line of duty" it means a general sense of knowing cops and that one has been killed.
For you to truly nitpick that I only know 1 cop who was killed in the line of duty is pretty stupid when you KNOW what I was talking about.
You should go to work for a politician Tu ;)
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You should go to work for a politician Tu ;)
I'd rather get rid of 1/2 of them instead of work for them... I'd like to eliminate at least 50 percent of all "public servants"... 1/2 of your jobs included.
The bottom line is that you know full well what I meant, but you want to continue down this insane road you drive on.
Be clear... I have not lied about anything I've said... Just because you don't understand how general speech is presented in the English language is not my problem.
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I'd rather get rid of 1/2 of them instead of work for them... I'd like to eliminate at least 50 percent of all "public servants"... 1/2 of your jobs included.
The bottom line is that you know full well what I meant, but you want to continue down this insane road you drive on.
Be clear... I have not lied about anything I've said... Just because you don't understand how general speech is presented in the English language is not my problem.
Bullshit...
You attempted to lend a sense of "many", when you refer to it in plural sense. You tried to bolster your argument...and failed.
If you dont understand the difference between singular and lural, then its YOU who doesnt understand general speech.
Personally, I dont think youre that stupid....you got caught, plain and simple. Man up and admit when youve been wrong.
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Bullshit...
You attempted to lend a sense of "many", when you refer to it in plural sense. You tried to bolster your argument...and failed.
If you dont understand the difference between singular and lural, then its YOU who doesnt understand general speech.
Personally, I dont think youre that stupid....you got caught, plain and simple. Man up and admit when youve been wrong.
;D
Plural
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Bullshit...
You attempted to lend a sense of "many", when you refer to it in plural sense. You tried to bolster your argument...and failed.
If you dont understand the difference between singular and lural, then its YOU who doesnt understand general speech.
Personally, I dont think youre that stupid....you got caught, plain and simple. Man up and admit when youve been wrong.
Chick, you know, normally I just bust your balls for being a shill, but this time, let's face it, you're talking out of your ass.
You are an illegal drug user... period.
That's how shit goes... If you think you have some extra credibility because you are an IFBB pro, let me help you out... You don't.
I did not attempt the sense of "many" and what the fuck is a "lural"?
Oh... You mean, you left off a letter? You're not just a fucking illiterate monkey?
See how shit goes?
People type things and add an "S" or leave off a "P" all the time don't they?
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Bullshit...
You attempted to lend a sense of "many", when you refer to it in plural sense. You tried to bolster your argument...and failed.
If you dont understand the difference between singular and lural, then its YOU who doesnt understand general speech.
Personally, I dont think youre that stupid....you got caught, plain and simple. Man up and admit when youve been wrong.
Exactly, couldn't have said it better. Tu's a cool guy, we don't agree on this particular issue, and I believe he overstated his position to make a point and got caught, not a big deal... admit it and move on.. but the explanation really doesn't hold up at all..
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Exactly, couldn't have said it better. Tu's a cool guy, we don't agree on this particular issue, and I believe he overstated his position to make a point and got caught, not a big deal... admit it and move on.. but the explanation really doesn't hold up at all..
There's nothing to admit... I've said my point on it, and that's the way it is.
You keep on discussing how "I embellished" and it doesn't change any of the facts of what I'm stating.
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There's nothing to admit... I've said my point on it, and that's the way it is.
You keep on discussing how "I embellished" and it doesn't change any of the facts of what I'm stating.
Not a big enough deal to continue on about it. You had your say about it, I had mine. No one died. It's all good.
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Chick, you know, normally I just bust your balls for being a shill, but this time, let's face it, you're talking out of your ass.
You are an illegal drug user... period.
That's how shit goes... If you think you have some extra credibility because you are an IFBB pro, let me help you out... You don't.
I did not attempt the sense of "many" and what the fuck is a "lural"?
Oh... You mean, you left off a letter? You're not just a fucking illiterate monkey?
See how shit goes?
People type things and add an "S" or leave off a "P" all the time don't they?
No...actually they dont. Yours was done on purpose, as anyone with a brain could see by the context of your message. Mine is a simple typo, as there is no such word as "lural"...
The fact that you respond with what you did, only illustrates that youve been caught and now feel like a fool....attempting to try and detour the conversation by making references to irrelevant things...
Pretty lame.
Here...this might help you:
IDIOT- as in ONE, not PLURAL
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I have been on calls in So Cal where there are nearly 300K people in on city and only 13 (single) units on duty. As far as the juicing is concerned, if you are wearing a tailored shirt that grips at least 17 -18" arms, you get a lot of "dude, I ain't gonna mess with you, those are some pretty big arms" ~ that makes less of a chance of guns being drawn and anyone being fatally injured.
This guy has stated many times "they are just like us" ~ well, in reality, they are.
The things he has mentioned are based on human justice.
If you walk up on a car and the dude has white powder on his nose and his old lady is feverishly trying to hide the bag, I mean seriously, do you expect a cop to look the other way?
If you pull over two guys and the back seat is loaded with guns and ammo and both of the guys in the front seat are wearing bullet proof vests, can you NOT put two and two together. It's probably YOUR life they are saving, or your childrens.
Now, if you walk up on a guy who is a big buffed juiced-to-the-gills bodybuilder and he has closed boxes and bags in the back seat, what are you going to do? He is not a menace to society and he is drug trafficking. He may even be a cool dude and have a family. Are you going to jump at busting him? If he straight up tells you "I've got juice in those boxes" you can just say he's a dumbass for not putting it in the trunk and not fixing his tail light.
Cops are not there to ruin people's lives. The only cops that truly have problems are older, dirty cops, or young punks who don't know the game yet.
It's about justice and equality. So many times, you just dont want the perp stinking up your car. You may even just want to see the prostitute get her shit together, knowing that throwing her in jail isn't gonna help anything.
If you operate totally "by the book" (which none of us do at any of our jobs) you will get nowhere. A police officers job is highly unique and unless you've been there, you really have no clue.
Getting home in one piece is the same objective for all of us. Nobody wants to think that today is our last day, but you know what? For cops this is much more of a reality than for the general public.
Think about it.
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No...actually they dont. Yours was done on purpose, as anyone with a brain could see by the context of your message. Mine is a simple typo, as there is no such word as "lural"...
The fact that you respond with what you did, only illustrates that youve been caught and now feel like a fool....attempting to try and detour the conversation by making references to irrelevant things...
Pretty lame.
Here...this might help you:
IDIOT- as in ONE, not PLURAL
So every time someone responds with a very accurate and valid retort... They are "busted" according to the Bob Logic.
Then you surely have been "busted" a lot of times around here Chicherillo.
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Check out this Meltdown by this dipshit cop on a routine traffic stop.....
hahahahahahah
fast forward to 3:40 mark
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhD8jyxy6DBIotVbgN (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhD8jyxy6DBIotVbgN)
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So every time someone responds with a very accurate and valid retort... They are "busted" according to the Bob Logic.
Then you surely have been "busted" a lot of times around here Chicherillo.
Your retort was neither valid or accurate, as you now admit. You attempted to bolster your argument with using a plural in place of the singular event you now claim, as it would sound as if you knew of MULTIPLE examples...you didnt. This of course, is assuming ANY part of your story is true....
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Your retort was neither valid or accurate, as you now admit. You attempted to bolster your argument with using a plural in place of the singular event you now claim, as it would sound as if you knew of MULTIPLE examples...you didnt. This of course, is assuming ANY part of your story is true....
You are insane... absolutely insane.
Did some of the oil seep into your brain?
Obviously my POINT is that people speak in generals... Just like when people call you a "PROFESSIONAL bodybuilder".. it's a general statement.
Yes, my statement was generalized... when I said I know cops... I do... I know MANY cops... so when I said I knew cops who were killed in the line of duty... I was speaking in generals.
My retort to you was about how people speak and make mistakes or type and make mistakes... They are the same thing.
You are an illegal drug user who sits around and likes to pretend that he is an unerring upright citizen who is now shilling for the police.
Aren't you special.
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Did she or did she not choose that job?
Sorry dude... but I've had friends who are cops who were killed in the line of duty by their own damn fault.
I'm sure your sister is a fine person, but if you are a cop, well, I guess you gotta take the job with the job right?
What does she get paid to do then? Hassle John Q public?
I seriously have no idea why I even respond to this thread anymore... I think our tally on people who like cops vs. people who don't is about 5 to 30 in the threads going on about the Po-Po right now.
You're original statement is above... I'm trying to be as fair as possible in re-reading the "Sorry dude, but I've had friends who are cops who were killed in the line of duty by their own damn fault"
And it appears to be more than a simple extra "s"
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Did she or did she not choose that job?
Sorry dude... but I've had friends who are cops who were killed in the line of duty by their own damn fault.
I'm sure your sister is a fine person, but if you are a cop, well, I guess you gotta take the job with the job right?
What does she get paid to do then? Hassle John Q public?
I seriously have no idea why I even respond to this thread anymore... I think our tally on people who like cops vs. people who don't is about 5 to 30 in the threads going on about the Po-Po right now.
You're original statement is above... I'm trying to be as fair as possible in re-reading the "Sorry dude, but I've had friends who are cops who were killed in the line of duty by their own damn fault"
And it appears to be more than a simple extra "s"
Again,
I'm speaking in generals... When you say you've had friends who have done something do you always mean multiple people?
Seriously?
Am I the only person on the planet who speaks like this?
Has no one EVER aside from me said "Well, I knew some dudes who did some things" and it was always multiple people??!
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Again,
I'm speaking in generals... When you say you've had friends who have done something do you always mean multiple people?
Seriously?
Am I the only person on the planet who speaks like this?
If I'm debating with someone over an issue, I try to be more careful. In THIS case, you appear to be attempting to bolster your position and or credibility by overstating the facts. It would be more reasonable in THIS case, since it is not everyday that a cop friend of yours is killed in the line of duty, to say, " I had a friend who was a cop who......" It's not like we are discussing friends who played softball..a common thing..
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An apples to apples comparison might be if we were discussing famous people and I had a friend who was in several movies, it wouldn't be natural for me to say
"I have friends who are actors and were in movies" just like knowing one cop who was shot and killed, it doesn't make sense to say "....well, what you said...
Dang...got blood all over my shirt from beating this dead horse,,,
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If I'm debating with someone over an issue, I try to be more careful. In THIS case, you appear to be attempting to bolster your position and or credibility by overstating the facts. It would be more reasonable in THIS case, since it is not everyday that a cop friend of yours is killed in the line of duty, to say, " I had a friend who was a cop who......" It's not like we are discussing friends who played softball..a common thing..
Well, I speak how I speak... I don't just change based upon some arbitrary criteria.
HOWEVER, since you seem to think it's some HUGE thing... "I had a friend who was a cop, who was killed in the line of duty and it was their own damn fault."
Also to note, that part of how you would notice it was singular would be because I didn't use FAULTS... I used Fault.
As Chick would say... "Not Lural".
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Well, I speak how I speak... I don't just change based upon some arbitrary criteria.
HOWEVER, since you seem to think it's some HUGE thing... "I had a friend who was a cop, who was killed in the line of duty and it was their own damn fault."
Also to note, that part of how you would notice it was singular would be because I didn't use FAULTS... I used Fault.
As Chick would say... "Not Lural".
uh..ok?
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An apples to apples comparison might be if we were discussing famous people and I had a friend who was in several movies, it wouldn't be natural for me to say
"I have friends who are actors and were in movies" just like knowing one cop who was shot and killed, it doesn't make sense to say "....well, what you said...
Dang...got blood all over my shirt from beating this dead horse,,,
Were wasting our time, bro...he isnt man enough to admit his lame attempt to sound like he had multiple examples...
He even uses 3 words in plural tense in the same sentence...certainly not some misplaced "s", or misspelling
And no, TU....no one talks like that.
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Were wasting our time, bro...he isnt man enough to admit his lame attempt to sound like he had multiple examples...
He even uses 3 words in plural tense in the same sentence...certainly not some misplaced "s", or misspelling
And no, TU....no one talks like that.
Whatever Chick.
How does it feel to by a hypocrite who is standing for the upright and staunch police force while committing felonies?
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Whatever Chick.
How does it feel to by a hypocrite who is standing for the upright and staunch police force while committing felonies?
felonies? What felonies am I committing?
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felonies? What felonies am I committing?
All of that illicit drug use you have committed.
Oh wait... I'm sure you're going to tell me you're "all natural".
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Been off the site for a few and a lot has been going on. I read a post that said most to all cops are on power trips. Not true. For sure there are guys that are. funny thing is, where I worked was a big city (about 1800 officers) and we bust the balls of the guys like that. Most often people come into contact with cops in situations like traffic stops. Of course if you get a ticket you will not be happy, but such is life. I have been cited numerous times for speeding by our camera cars and guess what? I paid my fine because I was wrong. And I was a cop at the time. If I speed I am no less deserving of a ticket than anyone else. Most often if pulled over by an actual cop, they extend some courtesy. I let more people go for minor traffic infractions than I ticketed. My thing was this..If you were polite, had a license and insurance then have a good one brother. Slow down. I chose to work in a big city because i'm not a traffic guy. I enjoyed doing invests and going after the bad guys. Never once have I ever dealt with steroids on the job as in arrests. There are cops that do them and my personal opinion is I really don't care. well then the argument comes up that it is against the law. Well Chaz Bono can go to a doctor and get testosterone injections to change his gender no problem. A women can get hormones as well. Is a cop that's taking AAS breaking the law? Yes. As we all know there are things that do not make sense and the Chaz Bono issue is one of them and a male cannot further enhance himself and his life by taking testosterone is another nonsensical issue as well. AAS do not make people rob banks. I would bet this individual had many other substances that were the major motivator for him to do a robbery. A bit more to the story I would bet.I can see a few on the board just don't like cops period, even if one saved his life he would say it wasn't fast enough or grabbed him too hard etc... This becomes a failure of one individual that has many issues and most likely a crap load of contempt for all people of authority. In other words they are just miserable and try to suck everyone around them into it with them.
Being a cop is a tough friggin' job and yes we knew it getting into it. However, you do not know to the degree what that is though until you have been in it a while. I have had about 10-12 complaints and all were unfounded and most were the complainant using the system as a way to mitigate their ticket or their arrest. Hoping lodging a complaint might help their case. I have lost many friends that were killed in the line of duty and 3 that took their own life. If any of you think that you have a rough way to go when going through a case, try being a cop. We get investigated much more thoroughly than you do.
Like someone said, there are douchbags in every job. Cops have many crappy days and sometimes you catch them on one of those days. All this talk of cops planting evidence and stealing drugs, juice etc.. So rare from my standpoint. If they get caught, guess what we hate them more than you do. That makes us hard workers out there doing the job right humping every night to keep dirtbags away from you and your family look bad. We don't go back to the district and high five these idiots. Sometimes they get called down to the garage and you can take it from there. Doing cocaine, heroin, meth is going to harm you and everyone around you in many more ways than one. Never seen a guy taking a cc or two of cyponate stealing from his family, rob, burglarize, rape, sell his kids for money on and on. I addressed that issue previously. I don't know Bob Chic, but if he uses AAS he looks like he has his life in order with a family that I've read about in the mags and contributes to society and to the bodybuilders. I.E. you cannot compare AAS to mind altering narcotics period. A whole separate animal. Testosterone is a life saver for many people.
Anyhow, sorry to ramble on people. I love reading this board/site and again, when I read I get a lot out of all of you guys and ladies. Here's a tip. Next time you get pulled over try being friendly and if you did run the light, say "yeah I messed up, i'm sorry" and I bet that might help you out. We are just like you.. except maybe Tu. He would be the cop to fly off the handle and taze you for a parking violation. Just kidding Tu. A little.
Good post.
I've also learned through the years there will be a segment of society, usually those who bark the loudest, that you can and never will please. It doesn't matter what you do, they aren't happy with what you do. You just learn to ignore them and do your job. No one else listens to them either.
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Thanks brother.( Agnostic007)
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At the end of the day doing someone for roids is doing someone for something illegal so it is fine by me.
At the end of the day they are drug dealers and out to make money.
I wouldnt get myself in a tissy over it either way though