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http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html (http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html)
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http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html (http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html)
Dumb asses, where is Al, where is Jesse, and where are these youths parents?...Makes no damn sense.
Maybe they need a beat and release program....
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Its times like these where I really wish I could pull out a Gatling gun and just start mowing the garbage down. I wouldn't necessarily want to kill, but maiming is fair play considering you, (or your family), might get stomped to death. Only in my dreams unfortunately. Anyway, I wonder if someone did pull out a gun and start shooting an attacker(s)? Probably get killed by the rest of the crowd or the police after the bullets run out.
Only sane option is run the other way.
WEST ALLIS - Witnesses tell Newsradio 620 WTMJ and TODAY'S TMJ4 of a mob of young people attacking innocent fair-goers at the end of the opening night of State Fair, with some callers claiming a racially-charged scene.
Milwaukee Police confirmed there were assaults outside the fair.
Witnesses' accounts claim everything from dozens to hundreds of young black people beating white people as they left State Fair Thursday night.
Authorities have not given official estimates of the number of people involved in the attacks.
"It looked like they were just going after white guys, white people," said Norb Roffers of Wind Lake in an interview with Newsradio 620 WTMJ. He left the State Fair Entrance near the corner of South 84th Street and West Schlinger Avenue in West Allis.
"They were attacking everybody for no reason whatsoever."
"It was 100% racial," claimed Eric, an Iraq war veteran from St. Francis who says young people beat on his car.
"I had a black couple on my right side, and these black kids were running in between all the cars, and they were pounding on my doors and trying to open up doors on my car, and they didn't do one thing to this black couple that was in this car next to us. They just kept walking right past their car. They were looking in everybody's windshield as they were running by, seeing who was white and who was black. Guarantee it."
Eric, a war veteran, said that the scene he saw Thursday outside State Fair compares to what he saw in combat.
"That rated right up there with it. When I saw the amount of kids coming down the road, all I kept thinking was, 'There's not enough cops to handle this.' There's no way. It would have taken the National Guard to control the number of kids that were coming off the road. They were knocking people off their motorcycles."
Another witness, who asked to remain anonymous, said, "it was like a scene you needed the National Guard to control."
"To me, it looked like a scene out of a movie," claimed the anonymous witness.
"I have not seen anything like this in my life. It was a huge mob, and it was a fight that maybe lasted one to two minutes."
Roffers claimed that as he left the state fair with his wife, crowds near that entrance were large, and someone in that crowd .
"As we got closer to the street, we looked up the road, and we saw a quite a bit of commotion going on and there was a guy laying in the road, and nobody was even laying there. He wasn't even moving. Finally a car pulled up. They stopped right next to the guy, and it looked like someone was going to help him. We were kind of stuck, because we couldn't cross. Traffic was going through. Young black men running around, beating on people, and we were like 'Let's get the heck out of here.' The light turned, and I got attacked from behind. I just got hit in the back of the head real hard. I'm like, 'What the heck is going on here?' I heard my bell ring."
Roffers further described what witnesses said happened to the man who was lying in the street.
"People were saying he was on a bike. They tore him off his bike and beat on him. We were walking to the west on Schlinger. I was watching behind me a lot more diligently, making sure there wasn't anybody coming to get us anymore."
One person claimed that someone was knocked off a motorcycle.
TODAY'S TMJ4 video shows West Allis police handcuffing at least one person, but they won't say how many people they took into custody.
Some witnesses described attacks on the State Fair Grounds as well.
Milwaukee Police said that their officers were sent to State Fair Park for "complaints of battery, fighting and property damage due to a large, unruly crowd."
A police sergeant told TODAY'S TMJ4's Melissa McCrady that the number of calls describing injuries are still coming in, so they could not give an accurate number of people who were injured.
That sergeant explained that some injuries were serious, and local hospitals were attending to the injured.
As of early Friday morning, Milwaukee Police said they had no one in custody.
One woman told police that she was sitting in her car with a window down when some teenagers reached through her window and started attacking her.
"I think once we get all the info in it'll be just like that, like what happened in Riverwest," said the police sergeant.
West Allis Police ask you to call them at 414-302-8000 if you have any information.
Eric: "I feared for my life"
Eric, who asked Newsradio 620 WTMJ not to use his last name, talked about the incidents that happened as he, his wife and a neighbor left the fair Thursday.
"We exited at the Schlinger and 84th exit, and we walked south about a block, and then went up and got our car, came back up and around down Schlinger. When we made a left hand turn, we were stopped in traffic. I looked toward the bridge, right before you get on the freeway, and all I saw was a road full of black kids, jumping over people's cars, jumping on people's hoods, running over the top of them."
Eric then claimed that he saw hundreds of young black people coming down a sidewalk.
"I saw them grab this white kid who was probably 14 or 15 years old. They just flung him into the road. They just jumped on him and started beating him. They were kicking him. He was on the ground. A girl picked up a construction sign and pushed it over on top of him. They were just running by and kicking him in the face."
Then, Eric talked about trying to get out of the car to help the victim.
"My wife pulled me back in because she didn't want me to get hit. Thankfully, there was surprising a lady that was in the car in front of me that jumped out of the car real quick and went over there to try to put her body around the kid so they couldn't see he was laying there and, obviously, defenseless. Her husband, or whoever was in the car, was screaming at her to get back into the car. She ended up going back into the car. These black kids grabbed this kid off the ground again, and pulled him up over the curb, onto the sidewalk and threw him into the bushes like he was a piece of garbage."
Eric claimed that the victim in that beating was by himself, and that there was a split of white people on one sidewalk and black people on the other.
"There was nobody else around to help him. There were no other white people, period, on that side of the street. They were going in the opposite direction because, those people who were coming out of the fair that saw these people coming, they either went back into the fair or took off running south on 84th Street."
Eric expressed anger at the State Fair Police for what he considered a lack of response.
"The thing that irritated me, the State Fair Police, the State Police, were down by the Pettit entrance to get in there," said Eric. "There was probably 5 or 6 officers down there. That's where all these kids came from. They came out of the Midway, across the front of the Pettit. They were still filing out of there. The State Fair Police, they knew this was going on. They knew these kids were beating these guys in between that exit and Schlinger at the next gate."
"They were stopping traffic, and I said 'What in the hell,' excuse my language, 'what are you guys doing directing traffic when there are 300, 400 black kids up the road beating the hell out of everybody, pushing people off of motorcycles?' I was livid. I could not believe they were directing traffic."
Fair worker: attacks not limited to outside fairgrounds
A witness told WTMJ that as he worked in a kiosk at the State Fair Midway, he saw what he described as "a Riverwest type mob. Easily between 50 - 100 kids all under 18 and all African American. They were running around knocking people over (young kids and adults), looting the Midway games (stealing the prizes), starting fights."
The witness, who asked not to be identified, couldn't say for certain if only white people were being attacked.
"It was just complete chaos. There were police on horses, lots of security guards, and EMT's on the scene. They never got control of the area."
A State Fair spokeswoman said that there were arrests made involving the incidents on the grounds.
He said that as the violence happened, he was "getting ready to grab my cash register and run."
"Not to mention this type of behavior started around 7pm and forced me to close down my stand at 9pm. It scared the paying customers out of the midway."
The man said hoping to bring family on Friday, but has decided not to.
"I was planning on bringing my two kids to the fair tonight. I won't be. We'll go to the zoo instead."
Woman: Teenagers in mob didn't attend rap concert
One woman who asked not to be identified tells us that contrary to some belief, the young people involved in the mob did not go to the rap concert that night.
"The mob of black teenagers involved in the beatings and damage outside of State Fair last night were not there for the MC Hammer concert," said the woman.
"I attended that concert with three of my friends last night and the crowd was mostly white and adult (as are my friends and I). Any kids there seemed to be with parents."
She described what she saw as she left the fair.
"As we came through the exit we saw a white boy lying in the street, in the fetal position right by the traffic light, and coming towards us was tons and tons and black teens – there had to have been over a hundred – in the middle of 84th Street and on the sidewalk headed south," she said.
"Some who stopped to kick or punch him - or in the case of one girl drop kick him in the head - as they walked past. My friends and I started towards him to help him up and a black girl walked past telling us 'ya’ll gonna get your ***** kicked' repeatedly. As my friend stood in front of the boy trying to get him up one of the teens picked up a traffic cone, hit her in the back of the head and ran off. A car stopped, a white woman got out to try and help. Teens jumped onto the hood of the car and ran over it. She just kept saying 'What is wrong with you!?' "
The witness also told us that not every African-American teenager outside the fair grounds acted violent.
"We continued to move towards the parking lot, through even more black teenagers. Thankfully this part of the crowd was not violent."
Roffers: "What in the hell's going on there?"
Roffers described his emotions and reactions to the attacks outside the park.
"I turned around and looked, there was this black kid standing there laughing, thinking it's funny. My wife's like, 'Let's get out of here.' It's one of those things, you don't expect it. Your reaction to it is, first of all, quite surprised, then you get so angry, it's like, 'What in the hell's going on there? Why are these guys acting like such hoodlums? What are they picking on anybody for?' We were just like cattle being herded out of the park, and they were picking and choosing who they wanted to beat on."
He said his injuries were limited to a headache.
Roffers said the attack wouldn't stop him from attending the State Fair.
"We will be going back," said Roffers.
"It's a family event for us. We get together with our family and we do stuff at the park to enjoy the fair. My biggest concern is that the State Fair Park Police and West Allis get their heads out of their butts and figure out how to do some security over there. This isn't the first year State Fair has been going on. They should know what the heck they've got to do and where they've got to have people in place by now."
He said that the fear spread beyond those who he believed were the target.
"There were a lot of people scared," claimed Roffers.
"There were even some young black girls. They were screaming. They were running across the road. This one girl was like, 'I don't know how I'm going to get out of here. I'm all by myself.' My wife heard her saying that. She said, 'Walk with us. Stay with us and you'll be OK.' We told her we were going down the street. If she needed any assistance, we were just going down to our car. She needed to go quite a way."
"There was this terror going on when you leave the place, you just wonder. Luckily, all the violence that was happening stayed right close by the park entrance. As we got a block away from the park, that's when the cops started showing up."
He said the lack of police and security presence will bring about his complaint up the various channels of State Fair and local police.
"They should be able to provide safety and traffic control," said Roffers. "I've never worried about it before."
He said he would give a written complaint to the State Fair and put in a call to West Allis Police, but that's not all.
"I will be contacting the State Fair Park Board and I'm going to chew on their butts a little bit about what happened."
State Fair spokeswoman: "Unfortunate situation, hopefully an isolated situation."
State Fair Director of Marketing and Communication Kathleen O'Leary told Newsradio 620 WTMJ's "Wisconsin's Morning News" that the incidents should not stop people from coming to the fair.
"Certainly, don't change your plans," said O'Leary. "Please understand that this is an unfortunate situation, hopefully an isolated situation."
Though witnesses had reported incidents inside the fair, she said the problems were mainly outside the fairgrounds.
"Not so much inside," claimed O'Leary.
"We had complete control inside of what was happening inside of our gates. It's what what spread into the neighborhoods."
O'Leary also pointed out that the fair has "taken measures already with the bag checks, when you come into the fair," but will increase authorities' presence for the remaining days at the fair.
"We will be taking severe measures, significant measures. We are in task force already, circling back around, doing everything that we can to make sure the experience is enjoyable and that the safety is insured," said O'Leary.
"They see the yellow security shirts. We have mounted police. We have bike police. We have our patrolling police. We have undercover police. That's all because that's exactly what we want. We want the safety measures intact at every turn."
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In all fairness, the waffle house closed early and many of them had already spent their entire welfare allowance from the first of the month on gold teeth and tennis shoes.
I'd be pissed off too.
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In all fairness, the waffle house closed early and many of them had already spent their entire welfare allowance from the first of the month on gold teeth and tennis shoes.
I'd be pissed off too.
Apparently they were juvis..
And didn't this happen last yr as well?
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Wow, this is totally unexpected.
But you know what, as much as I hate these little black fags, I think I hate the weak whites even more. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Are you cattle? Do you have any brains? Come up with a game plan weaklings!
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Wow, this is totally unexpected.
But you know what, as much as I hate these little black fags, I think I hate the weak whites even more. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Are you cattle? Do you have any brains? Come up with a game plan weaklings!
What are they supposed to do in this situation?
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What are they supposed to do in this situation?
Fuck 'em up...apparently, these idiots feel that they can get awway with it, because they are juvis...hell no...if your parents didn't whip your ass and teach you home training, then you are going to get it from the outside world
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Religion of Peace... ::)
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Religion of Peace... ::)
;D
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Avoid mobs of urban yutes. How hard is that to understand?
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I would have loved to be on a hill far away with a sniper rifle. The only thing better would be to just blow a hole in their head at point blank range but you know a "lib" would out you as the gunman and your ass would be in prison.
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I would have loved to be on a hill far away with a sniper rifle. The only thing better would be to just blow a hole in their head at point blank range but you know a "lib" would out you as the gunman and your ass would be in prison.
When the food stamps and welfare stop, within weeks this nation will be in civil war.
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Avoid mobs of urban yutes. How hard is that to understand?
it isn't. But if my daughter and I are going to a fair or something how the fuck am I supposed to know mobs of dumbfucks will be there.
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it isn't. But if my daughter and I are going to a fair or something how the fuck am I supposed to know mobs of dumbfucks will be there.
Price of admission. If it's free to walk in, the vultures will be there.
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Price of admission. If it's free to walk in, the vultures will be there.
any fair or carnival I've been to admission is NOT free unless your under 2 years old. ;D
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Cops were worried about traffic control while these animals were running loose. WTF?
Cowardly cops really suck.
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Would it have helped to pump a few into someone who's attacking you if you all of a sudden found yourself in a mob situation or would it just get you into more serious trouble?
I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand it would probably send everone scattering giving you a better opportuinty to get away but I'd be worried that with such a large crowd some would have the balls/stupidity to actually run towards the person firing with either their own gun or in hopes of just overwhelming you with sheer numbers.
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Its times like these where I really wish I could pull out a Gatling gun and just start mowing the garbage down. I wouldn't necessarily want to kill, but maiming is fair play considering you, (or your family), might get stomped to death. Only in my dreams unfortunately. Anyway, I wonder if someone did pull out a gun and start shooting an attacker(s)? Probably get killed by the rest of the crowd or the police after the bullets run out.
(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2011/08/rise_of_the_planet_of_the_apes_bridge_2011_a_l.jpg)
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http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html (http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html)
There are multiple accounts of what happenned but I would seriously doubt the story of hundreds of black people beating up white people. Sounds to me like a fight between a white and black teenagers and all the other teenagers were pushing and shoving each other around to get a view.
In any event, when you have a large crowd of teenagers running around, shit happens.
BTW, check this out
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You need help.
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/126828998.html
Extra security officers guard the Wisconsin State Fair on Friday. Witnesses and police reported two separate incidents of mobs of unruly youths on Thursday night, resulting in at least 11 injuries and 31 arrests. Seven of the injured were police officers, and two were hospitalized.
e-mail print By Don Walker, Mike Johnson and Breann Schossow of the Journal Sentinel
Aug. 6, 2011 11:40 a.m.
The day after unprecedented melees marred opening night, State Fair officials reported a normal, violence-free evening Friday, thanks in part to new rules put in place to keep unattended teens away and a beefed-up presence of uniformed law enforcement officers.
“It really went well,” Patrice Harris, the fair’s communication manager, said Saturday.
At least 31 people were arrested and at least 11 people were injured Thursday, during the fair’s opening night.
The trouble Thursday began around 7 p.m. when fights erupted among black youths in the Midway area and spread into neighboring streets around the 11 p.m. closing time. In the later attacks, the youths targeted white people.
As a result of the violence, new rules were implemented that require all people under 18 to be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian over the age of 21 in order to be admitted to the fairgrounds after 5 p.m.
In addition, Gov. Scott Walker ordered the State Patrol to help keep order. Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn also promised additional police protection at the fair and other weekend activities around the city.
“Fairgoers were coming into the park thanking us for the policies,” Harris said. “The extra security really assured people of their safety.”
Harris said she did not know if the new policies, or fear that Thursday’s violence might be repeated, suppressed attendance.
Attendance numbers are released after the fair ends, she said.
Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett and Flynn said Friday that beefed up policing at this weekend's major public events around the city was aimed at limiting any chance of the State Fair events being repeated.
The violence left workers and patrons of the fair in West Allis shaken and reminded many of the mob-like disturbances that occurred over the Fourth of July weekend in Milwaukee.
The trouble at the fair started around 7 p.m. Thursday in the midway area, where amusement rides are located, when fights broke out among black youths, said Tom Struebing, chief of the State Fair Police. Those fights did not appear to be racially motivated.
Then around the closing time of 11 p.m., witnesses told the Journal Sentinel, dozens to hundreds of black youths attacked white people as they left the fair, punching and kicking people and shaking and pounding on their vehicles.
At least 31 people were arrested - many for disorderly conduct - in connection with the incidents on the fairgrounds and on the streets outside. At least 11 people, seven of them police officers, were injured, officials said. Twenty-four people were arrested within the fairgrounds by State Fair Police. West Allis police arrested seven people, five of them juveniles, outside the fairgrounds.
Struebing said two injured officers were hospitalized; one was hit in the face with an improvised weapon, the other suffered a concussion.
"We normally can handle anything in the park," Struebing said.
Because of the violence, Rick Frenette, CEO of the fair, announced that the fair would immediately implement a policy in which no youths under 18 years of age would be allowed onto the grounds after 5 p.m. without a parent or guardian at least 21 years old.
Frenette, a veteran of 40 years in fair management, said he had never implemented such a policy before.
Walker made the decision to provide extra State Patrol help after reviewing the incidents, said his spokesmen, Cullen Werwie.
"We will continue to evaluate the situation and make any adjustments necessary to ensure a successful and safe event. We will be doing everything in our power to ensure that parents feel that it is safe to bring their children to the world's best fair," Werwie said in a statement.
West Allis Mayor Dan Devine said in a statement that "thuggery has no place at the Wisconsin State Fair, or anywhere in our society."
Devine said he was disgusted by the reports of violence. "It is appalling that a group of hoodlums has cast such a negative light on what is traditionally a safe and family friendly event," he said in a statement.
Barrett said there would be no tolerance for violence at festivals and that perpetrators will be prosecuted - regardless of race.
"Two years ago, I was a victim of a random attack (outside) State Fair . . . last night, events took place at State Fair that I don't believe are random," Barrett said at a City Hall news conference. The attack by a man wielding a tire iron left Barrett with stitches in his head, broken teeth and broken bones in his right hand. On Friday, security started setting up extra metal fencing at entrances around 5 p.m.
Patrice Harris, communications manager for the State Fair, said identification will be checked at each gate in the area where bags are searched. She said the time spent checking for identification shouldn't affect the time spent waiting in line before getting into the fair.
At Gate 3, at least 70 people had their IDs checked within the first hour. All appeared to be minors without guardians.
Jeremy Chavez, Anthony Henderson and Anthony DeHoyas, all 16, were among those stopped.
"I didn't know about the adult thing," Chavez said, although he had heard that IDs would be checked. Henderson and DeHoyas were also taken by surprise.
DeHoyas, who was celebrating his birthday Friday, was upset at being turned away and said he doesn't plan to come back.
He called his mother, who came to the fair to supervise the three teenagers.
Police from three jurisdictions - West Allis, Milwaukee and Wisconsin State Fair - spent Friday trying to piece together what happened. But they could not say what started the situation.
Witnesses, though, told the Journal Sentinel that the attacks appeared to be unprovoked and racially motivated.
"You could just tell they were after white people. That was the main thing. If you were white, they were coming after you," said Jon Stikl of Oak Creek.
He said he was stuck in traffic as a group of young people blocked cars near the fair gate on S. 84th St. near I-94 after he picked up family members attending the fair.
"We noticed a group of five to 10 young black males run up and jump a young white male for no other reason then him being white," Stikl said.
They knocked him to the ground, and then a group of 15 black men kicked and stomped on him, Stikl said.
"My wife's brother jumped out of the car - his natural reaction was to try to break it up. Before you knew it, five or 10 guys were on him and started punching at him. My wife was able to pull him back in the car. So now they surrounded my car and just started punching through the windows, kicking and shaking the car, screaming racial things."
He said there should have been more police presence, given that disturbances were reported inside the fairgrounds shortly after 7 p.m. Thursday.
"I was disgusted by the lack of security. It's a black eye on the State Fair" and police, he said.
Andrew J. Coleman, a recent University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee graduate, said he and a friend were attacked about 10:30 p.m. after they left the fair through the gate off S. 84th near the Pettit National Ice Center.
"I just heard footsteps behind me and I turned around and I got hit in the face. There were six or seven just beating on me," said Coleman, who has a sore jaw from the punches.
His friend was stomped on and his sneakers stolen, said Coleman, of Milwaukee.
A concession worker who works near the midway area told the Journal Sentinel that earlier Thursday night, large groups of African-American youths ran through the midway, knocking over young children and adults, disrupting midway amusement rides and tearing signs up. The midway is east of the Pettit National Ice Center and adjacent to the Hank Aaron State Trail.
"I have never seen anything like it," the worker said. "It was mob mentality."
The worker said there was police presence, including officers on horseback, but it was not enough.
A 34-year-old Muskego man said he was riding on the Ferris wheel in the midway with one of his children when he heard shouts of "fight" sometime after 7 p.m. He saw a big group of people, perhaps 200 to 300, gathered around a brawl.
"I've never seen anything like this in my life. . . . There were so many people you couldn't see who was fighting. There was just this big group that kept growing and chanting, 'Fight, fight, fight,' " he said. "That lasted for one to two minutes. Then when security showed up blowing some whistles, all of this mob started running. It was like a herd of cattle."
Milwaukee Common Council President Willie Hines said he was at the fair Thursday night and witnessed blacks fighting each other, but did not see any blacks attack whites.
He said that if it happened, those individuals should be charged with the crime as well as a hate crime.
"They should be penalized for the prime incident, and we should have a racial enhancer," Hines said.
Although some fairgoers were critical of police response, Hines said State Fair police acted appropriately and professionally.
"They were working hard to control the chaos," Hines said.
He said some coordination problems with other police departments might have happened outside the grounds.
The Wisconsin State Fair is in different jurisdictions. The north side of the fairgrounds, from the Hank Aaron State Trail north, is in Milwaukee. The rest is in West Allis. Adding to the confusion is that the Wisconsin State Fair Park police have jurisdiction only on the fairgrounds, not outside of it.
The incidents Thursday night come as the State Fair Board has worked to increase diversity at the annual fair, expanding its entertainment lineup and attempting to appeal to a younger, more multicultural audience. Diversity was a priority for former State Fair Park Chairman Martin Greenberg, who spoke of making it a "place of inclusion, not exclusion."
The violence is similar to what occurred in Milwaukee's Riverwest neighborhood over the July 4 holiday, when about 60 young people beat and robbed a smaller group that had been watching fireworks from Kilbourn Reservoir Park. The injured people were white; the attackers were African-American, witnesses said. Another group looted a convenience store.
Thursday night's Main Stage performer was rapper MC Hammer, but a number of people who attended the concert said the show wasn't to blame for the disturbances at the fair. One woman said the crowd watching Hammer was mostly white and adult, and any children there seemed to be with parents.
Another woman said the concert was "very laid-back and had no craziness that we witnessed at all. The craziness was in the midway."
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Hey Vince - GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU MORON.
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/126828998.html
Extra security officers guard the Wisconsin State Fair on Friday. Witnesses and police reported two separate incidents of mobs of unruly youths on Thursday night, resulting in at least 11 injuries and 31 arrests. Seven of the injured were police officers, and two were hospitalized.
e-mail print By Don Walker, Mike Johnson and Breann Schossow of the Journal Sentinel
Aug. 6, 2011 11:40 a.m.
The day after unprecedented melees marred opening night, State Fair officials reported a normal, violence-free evening Friday, thanks in part to new rules put in place to keep unattended teens away and a beefed-up presence of uniformed law enforcement officers.
“It really went well,” Patrice Harris, the fair’s communication manager, said Saturday.
At least 31 people were arrested and at least 11 people were injured Thursday, during the fair’s opening night.
The trouble Thursday began around 7 p.m. when fights erupted among black youths in the Midway area and spread into neighboring streets around the 11 p.m. closing time. In the later attacks, the youths targeted white people.
As a result of the violence, new rules were implemented that require all people under 18 to be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian over the age of 21 in order to be admitted to the fairgrounds after 5 p.m.
In addition, Gov. Scott Walker ordered the State Patrol to help keep order. Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn also promised additional police protection at the fair and other weekend activities around the city.
“Fairgoers were coming into the park thanking us for the policies,” Harris said. “The extra security really assured people of their safety.”
Harris said she did not know if the new policies, or fear that Thursday’s violence might be repeated, suppressed attendance.
Attendance numbers are released after the fair ends, she said.
Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett and Flynn said Friday that beefed up policing at this weekend's major public events around the city was aimed at limiting any chance of the State Fair events being repeated.
The violence left workers and patrons of the fair in West Allis shaken and reminded many of the mob-like disturbances that occurred over the Fourth of July weekend in Milwaukee.
The trouble at the fair started around 7 p.m. Thursday in the midway area, where amusement rides are located, when fights broke out among black youths, said Tom Struebing, chief of the State Fair Police. Those fights did not appear to be racially motivated.
Then around the closing time of 11 p.m., witnesses told the Journal Sentinel, dozens to hundreds of black youths attacked white people as they left the fair, punching and kicking people and shaking and pounding on their vehicles.
At least 31 people were arrested - many for disorderly conduct - in connection with the incidents on the fairgrounds and on the streets outside. At least 11 people, seven of them police officers, were injured, officials said. Twenty-four people were arrested within the fairgrounds by State Fair Police. West Allis police arrested seven people, five of them juveniles, outside the fairgrounds.
Struebing said two injured officers were hospitalized; one was hit in the face with an improvised weapon, the other suffered a concussion.
"We normally can handle anything in the park," Struebing said.
Because of the violence, Rick Frenette, CEO of the fair, announced that the fair would immediately implement a policy in which no youths under 18 years of age would be allowed onto the grounds after 5 p.m. without a parent or guardian at least 21 years old.
Frenette, a veteran of 40 years in fair management, said he had never implemented such a policy before.
Walker made the decision to provide extra State Patrol help after reviewing the incidents, said his spokesmen, Cullen Werwie.
"We will continue to evaluate the situation and make any adjustments necessary to ensure a successful and safe event. We will be doing everything in our power to ensure that parents feel that it is safe to bring their children to the world's best fair," Werwie said in a statement.
West Allis Mayor Dan Devine said in a statement that "thuggery has no place at the Wisconsin State Fair, or anywhere in our society."
Devine said he was disgusted by the reports of violence. "It is appalling that a group of hoodlums has cast such a negative light on what is traditionally a safe and family friendly event," he said in a statement.
Barrett said there would be no tolerance for violence at festivals and that perpetrators will be prosecuted - regardless of race.
"Two years ago, I was a victim of a random attack (outside) State Fair . . . last night, events took place at State Fair that I don't believe are random," Barrett said at a City Hall news conference. The attack by a man wielding a tire iron left Barrett with stitches in his head, broken teeth and broken bones in his right hand. On Friday, security started setting up extra metal fencing at entrances around 5 p.m.
Patrice Harris, communications manager for the State Fair, said identification will be checked at each gate in the area where bags are searched. She said the time spent checking for identification shouldn't affect the time spent waiting in line before getting into the fair.
At Gate 3, at least 70 people had their IDs checked within the first hour. All appeared to be minors without guardians.
Jeremy Chavez, Anthony Henderson and Anthony DeHoyas, all 16, were among those stopped.
"I didn't know about the adult thing," Chavez said, although he had heard that IDs would be checked. Henderson and DeHoyas were also taken by surprise.
DeHoyas, who was celebrating his birthday Friday, was upset at being turned away and said he doesn't plan to come back.
He called his mother, who came to the fair to supervise the three teenagers.
Police from three jurisdictions - West Allis, Milwaukee and Wisconsin State Fair - spent Friday trying to piece together what happened. But they could not say what started the situation.
Witnesses, though, told the Journal Sentinel that the attacks appeared to be unprovoked and racially motivated.
"You could just tell they were after white people. That was the main thing. If you were white, they were coming after you," said Jon Stikl of Oak Creek.
He said he was stuck in traffic as a group of young people blocked cars near the fair gate on S. 84th St. near I-94 after he picked up family members attending the fair.
"We noticed a group of five to 10 young black males run up and jump a young white male for no other reason then him being white," Stikl said.
They knocked him to the ground, and then a group of 15 black men kicked and stomped on him, Stikl said.
"My wife's brother jumped out of the car - his natural reaction was to try to break it up. Before you knew it, five or 10 guys were on him and started punching at him. My wife was able to pull him back in the car. So now they surrounded my car and just started punching through the windows, kicking and shaking the car, screaming racial things."
He said there should have been more police presence, given that disturbances were reported inside the fairgrounds shortly after 7 p.m. Thursday.
"I was disgusted by the lack of security. It's a black eye on the State Fair" and police, he said.
Andrew J. Coleman, a recent University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee graduate, said he and a friend were attacked about 10:30 p.m. after they left the fair through the gate off S. 84th near the Pettit National Ice Center.
"I just heard footsteps behind me and I turned around and I got hit in the face. There were six or seven just beating on me," said Coleman, who has a sore jaw from the punches.
His friend was stomped on and his sneakers stolen, said Coleman, of Milwaukee.
A concession worker who works near the midway area told the Journal Sentinel that earlier Thursday night, large groups of African-American youths ran through the midway, knocking over young children and adults, disrupting midway amusement rides and tearing signs up. The midway is east of the Pettit National Ice Center and adjacent to the Hank Aaron State Trail.
"I have never seen anything like it," the worker said. "It was mob mentality."
The worker said there was police presence, including officers on horseback, but it was not enough.
A 34-year-old Muskego man said he was riding on the Ferris wheel in the midway with one of his children when he heard shouts of "fight" sometime after 7 p.m. He saw a big group of people, perhaps 200 to 300, gathered around a brawl.
"I've never seen anything like this in my life. . . . There were so many people you couldn't see who was fighting. There was just this big group that kept growing and chanting, 'Fight, fight, fight,' " he said. "That lasted for one to two minutes. Then when security showed up blowing some whistles, all of this mob started running. It was like a herd of cattle."
Milwaukee Common Council President Willie Hines said he was at the fair Thursday night and witnessed blacks fighting each other, but did not see any blacks attack whites.
He said that if it happened, those individuals should be charged with the crime as well as a hate crime.
"They should be penalized for the prime incident, and we should have a racial enhancer," Hines said.
Although some fairgoers were critical of police response, Hines said State Fair police acted appropriately and professionally.
"They were working hard to control the chaos," Hines said.
He said some coordination problems with other police departments might have happened outside the grounds.
The Wisconsin State Fair is in different jurisdictions. The north side of the fairgrounds, from the Hank Aaron State Trail north, is in Milwaukee. The rest is in West Allis. Adding to the confusion is that the Wisconsin State Fair Park police have jurisdiction only on the fairgrounds, not outside of it.
The incidents Thursday night come as the State Fair Board has worked to increase diversity at the annual fair, expanding its entertainment lineup and attempting to appeal to a younger, more multicultural audience. Diversity was a priority for former State Fair Park Chairman Martin Greenberg, who spoke of making it a "place of inclusion, not exclusion."
The violence is similar to what occurred in Milwaukee's Riverwest neighborhood over the July 4 holiday, when about 60 young people beat and robbed a smaller group that had been watching fireworks from Kilbourn Reservoir Park. The injured people were white; the attackers were African-American, witnesses said. Another group looted a convenience store.
Thursday night's Main Stage performer was rapper MC Hammer, but a number of people who attended the concert said the show wasn't to blame for the disturbances at the fair. One woman said the crowd watching Hammer was mostly white and adult, and any children there seemed to be with parents.
Another woman said the concert was "very laid-back and had no craziness that we witnessed at all. The craziness was in the midway."
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Hey Vince - GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU MORON.
You go fuck yourself. Honestly, with all of the stuff being said then why wasn't any of this caught on camera. You would think someone would be filming it with a cell phone or something. Just doesn't add it and its irrational to think otherwise.
Pictures or it didn't happen
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LMAO - You really are a joke.
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You go fuck yourself. Honestly, with all of the stuff being said then why wasn't any of this caught on camera. You would think someone would be filming it with a cell phone or something. Just doesn't add it and its irrational to think otherwise.
Pictures or it didn't happen
Bullshit. Too many user accounts of what happened that basically say the same thing. These animals were out of control and need to be shot dead. I would say the same thing if they were white as well. It's not a black or white thing. It's just that usually when things like this happens 99.999999 percent of the time it's the negroes.
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You go fuck yourself. Honestly, with all of the stuff being said then why wasn't any of this caught on camera. You would think someone would be filming it with a cell phone or something. Just doesn't add it and its irrational to think otherwise.
Pictures or it didn't happen
yes youre right, after getting jumped and pulled back into a car that is surrounded and mindless animals trying to get in to do who knows what to me and my family the first thing I would think of was to pull out my cell phone so I could put the video on youtube...
you fucking moron...
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I asked a guy at the gym today if he heard about the mob attacks in Milwaukee. He said no, because he watches CNN. I told him about it and he said the best thing to do is ignore it so they don't get exposure and it would go away. This was a white guy saying this.
I said to him the exact opposite will and is happening. By ignoring these flash mob attacks (MSM, Black Leaders) the mob becomes emboldened. They feel entitled to do this and because of lack of action on this through political correctness they think they can get away with it. The more this is ignored the worst it is going to get. Until one day you will see 10 black teenagers dead on the sidewalk and all hell will break loose on the streets of America. Another potential issue is organized gangs and criminal elements noticing the effects of the mob attacks and starting to employ similar tactics. They may be a lot more dangerous than the teen attacks.
This issue cannot be ignored and I have said this before and will say it again. The likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are making a huge mistake ignoring these incidents. It shows lack of leadership, a lack of self respect for their own people and communities, a lack of accountability and an unwillingness to improve race relationships.
When Holder was referring to the USA as a nation of cowards when it comes to race relations, I think he was unknowingly referencing the behavior of these black teens and black leaders. And he himself is probably one of the biggest racial cowards in the country.
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Hundreds Rampage Through Neighborhoods Surrounding Wisconsin State Fair
Fox News ^ | 8/6/2011 | fox news
Posted on August 6, 2011 4:13:51 PM EDT by tobyhill
Milwaukee police officers are investigating a string of mob-like actions involving a very large and unruly crowd near the Wisconsin State Fair Thursday night, where several people were badly injured and cars and homes were rampaged, Fox6 News reported.
Twenty-four people were arrested inside the fairgrounds after fights broke out, State Fair officials said. The violence continued after closing time outside the park.
State Fair Park CEO Rick Frenette said seven park police officers were injured, including two who were taken to the hospital.
Milwaukee Police said just after 11 p.m. they responded to complaints of an unruly mob attacking cars, people and leaving damage in its path.
Hundreds of young people left the fairgrounds and made their way down to the surrounding neighborhoods, smashing car windows, throwing rocks and beating people who were leaving the fair.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
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Hundreds Rampage Through Neighborhoods Surrounding Wisconsin State Fair
Fox News ^ | 8/6/2011 | fox news
Posted on August 6, 2011 4:13:51 PM EDT by tobyhill
Milwaukee police officers are investigating a string of mob-like actions involving a very large and unruly crowd near the Wisconsin State Fair Thursday night, where several people were badly injured and cars and homes were rampaged, Fox6 News reported.
Twenty-four people were arrested inside the fairgrounds after fights broke out, State Fair officials said. The violence continued after closing time outside the park.
State Fair Park CEO Rick Frenette said seven park police officers were injured, including two who were taken to the hospital.
Milwaukee Police said just after 11 p.m. they responded to complaints of an unruly mob attacking cars, people and leaving damage in its path.
Hundreds of young people left the fairgrounds and made their way down to the surrounding neighborhoods, smashing car windows, throwing rocks and beating people who were leaving the fair.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
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yes youre right, after getting jumped and pulled back into a car that is surrounded and mindless animals trying to get in to do who knows what to me and my family the first thing I would think of was to pull out my cell phone so I could put the video on youtube...
you fucking moron...
Bullshit, someone should have got a picture...especially one of the hooligans who would have killed to post it on Youtube.
Fox News made no mention of a mob of blacks beating down white people so until some major media outlet says otherwise, I'm going to chalk it up to a mob of unruly teens because that's the only thing that's been confirmed.
I also want to see the birth certificates of everyone involved.... ;D
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Bullshit, someone should have got a picture...especially one of the hooligans who would have killed to post it on Youtube.
Fox News made no mention of a mob of blacks beating down white people so until some major media outlet says otherwise, I'm going to chalk it up to a mob of unruly teens because that's the only thing that's been confirmed.
I also want to see the birth certificates of everyone involved.... ;D
IC so if fox had said so you would believe it? ::) goodness gracious...
I bet you believe its the tea parties fault we got downgraded dont you?
OH WAIT, ;)
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So now it's a rumor? Lol. Perpetuated by police and dozens of witnesses?
Great CT!
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I wonder how many bullshit traffic tickets or drug stops were done that night?
90% of the police forces in this country are like the keystone cops.
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Wisconsin is about to pass a concealed carry law. This wont happen next year.
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Wisconsin is about to pass a concealed carry law. This wont happen next year.
The only thing the animals understand is deadly force
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I know this is the standard reply, but just imagine if these were White youths beating black people.
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I know this is the standard reply, but just imagine if these were White youths beating black people.
lol vince would be in the streets marching, that is if Fox reported they were beating up blacks...;)
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lol vince would be in the streets marching, that is if Fox reported they were beating up blacks...;)
Lmao!
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Wow, I don't think it was a smart idea to make comments like that....only does more harm than good especially regarding something that's still under investigation.
In the meantime..... ;D
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Wow, I don't think it was a smart idea to make comments like that....only does more harm than good especially regarding something that's still under investigation.
In the meantime..... ;D
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I like that shirt.
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IC so if fox had said so you would believe it? ::) goodness gracious...
I bet you believe its the tea parties fault we got downgraded dont you?
OH WAIT, ;)
Yes, I do believe primarily that its the Tea Party's fault because they threatened their GOP elected officials to withdraw the original deal for something that was never going to happen. They are the worse mob of people to infiltrate the Republican party causing them to go so far right that the steering column has broken off and its driving around in a circle.
Their action keep the one thing that would have saved us from a credit downgrade and its called "compromise"
As far as the mob beatings at the state fair....its still under investigation. No one has stated what started it up and worse yet there's no pictures or video of this happening. All I hear from some of these reporters is a mob of black people beating up white people. It simply sounds kind of fishy to me. If there's a mob of black people or white people beating up on folks then there had to have been some catalyst to the situation, all of which simply hasn't been explained.
I'll draw my conclusion when the police dept completes their investigation and issues an actual report.
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I like that shirt.
Its not a shirt, its a wetsuit.
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Yes, I do believe primarily that its the Tea Party's fault because they threatened their GOP elected officials to withdraw the original deal for something that was never going to happen. They are the worse mob of people to infiltrate the Republican party causing them to go so far right that the steering column has broken off and its driving around in a circle.
Their action keep the one thing that would have saved us from a credit downgrade and its called "compromise"
As far as the mob beatings at the state fair....its still under investigation. No one has stated what started it up and worse yet there's no pictures or video of this happening. All I hear from some of these reporters is a mob of black people beating up white people. It simply sounds kind of fishy to me. If there's a mob of black people or white people beating up on folks then there had to have been some catalyst to the situation, all of which simply hasn't been explained.
I'll draw my conclusion when the police dept completes their investigation and issues an actual report.
did you not read the report in which it stated that the proposed cuts WHERE NOT ENOUGH???
so obama and the dems STOMPED on the debt increasing gas peddle and the group that said enough is enough is to blame?
LMFAO, some great logic you obama supporters have...you and necrosis would be a match made in heaven...oh wait scratch that necrosis doesnt believe in that...
a match made in san fransico ;)...
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Yes, I do believe primarily that its the Tea Party's fault because they threatened their GOP elected officials to withdraw the original deal for something that was never going to happen. They are the worse mob of people to infiltrate the Republican party causing them to go so far right that the steering column has broken off and its driving around in a circle.
Their action keep the one thing that would have saved us from a credit downgrade and its called "compromise"
As far as the mob beatings at the state fair....its still under investigation. No one has stated what started it up and worse yet there's no pictures or video of this happening. All I hear from some of these reporters is a mob of black people beating up white people. It simply sounds kind of fishy to me. If there's a mob of black people or white people beating up on folks then there had to have been some catalyst to the situation, all of which simply hasn't been explained.
I'll draw my conclusion when the police dept completes their investigation and issues an actual report.
Actually, it was Obama that torpedoed the deal they had agreed to when he came back to the table at the last minute and demanded another $400 billion in taxes. They rightly told him to go fuck himself and then proceeded to bend Obama and the Dems over the table.
Score another "win" for the God-King.
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Wisconsin is about to pass a concealed carry law. This wont happen next year.
Damn right.
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Actually, it was Obama that torpedoed the deal they had agreed to when he came back to the table at the last minute and demanded another $400 billion in taxes. They rightly told him to go fuck himself and then proceeded to bend Obama and the Dems over the table.
Score another "win" for the God-King.
Obama may be the President but only Congress has the power to create and pass a balanced budget. The only thing he did was kept kicking everyone in the ass to get it done which is exactly the right thing to do.
The Tea Party interfered with something that should have never been an issue to begin with and forced the GOP to refuse to make compromises for fear of being voted out of office.
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Obama may be the President but only Congress has the power to create and pass a balanced budget. The only thing he did was kept kicking everyone in the ass to get it done which is exactly the right thing to do.
The Tea Party interfered with something that should have never been an issue to begin with and forced the GOP to refuse to make compromises for fear of being voted out of office.
Wrong. Nbama ignored the Simpson Bowles plan, ignored Ryan pla, ignored cut cap and balance, two of which were passed in the house.
Dingy Harry sat on his ass and bam a did the same until the end.
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Obama may be the President but only Congress has the power to create and pass a balanced budget. The only thing he did was kept kicking everyone in the ass to get it done which is exactly the right thing to do.
The Tea Party interfered with something that should have never been an issue to begin with and forced the GOP to refuse to make compromises for fear of being voted out of office.
lol it has to start in congress doesnt mean the president cannot give congress the idea...obama didnt do shit for months until the end...sorry vince your revisionist bullshit isnt working here
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lol it has to start in congress doesnt mean the president cannot give congress the idea...obama didnt do shit for months until the end...sorry vince your revisionist bullshit isnt working here
I hate them all... Every damn one of them.
Why would Obama wait until the last fucking minute and why the hell would it take this long.
Everyone knew they were going to raise the debt ceiling... That was a given... So just do it. Fuck all this bullshit.
Then, balance the budget, cut some shit, come up with a surplus and let's pay off the debt.
This isn't really that fucking hard.
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I hate them all... Every damn one of them.
Why would Obama wait until the last fucking minute and why the hell would it take this long.
Everyone knew they were going to raise the debt ceiling... That was a given... So just do it. Fuck all this bullshit.
Then, balance the budget, cut some shit, come up with a surplus and let's pay off the debt.
This isn't really that fucking hard.
yup, just like everyone knew they were going to extend the bush tax cuts and it came down to the last minute too...
this is what facking up our economy, instability from the ground up man.
The problem is both sides are posturing for the next round of elections trying to get their incidents of political talking points to make to their constituents...
like i said earlier not until more ppl start caring about the direction of this country will we start to get a better class of politician and then better results.
hopefully the polarization that has happend will result in more ppl following the current events from this point on and will lead to a more informed society.
sadly I seriously doubt it.
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yup, just like everyone knew they were going to extend the bush tax cuts and it came down to the last minute too...
this is what facking up our economy, instability from the ground up man.
The problem is both sides are posturing for the next round of elections trying to get their incidents of political talking points to make to their constituents...
like i said earlier not until more ppl start caring about the direction of this country will we start to get a better class of politician and then better results.
hopefully the polarization that has happend will result in more ppl following the current events from this point on and will lead to a more informed society.
sadly I seriously doubt it.
Exactly... People in this country do not care though... There is a great sense of hopelessness and the belief that the people in power will just do what they have always done and that the average person doesn't really have any say in what happens.
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I wonder how many bullshit traffic tickets or drug stops were done that night?
90% of the police forces in this country are like the keystone cops.
Just can't make you happy can we? You whine there are way too many cops.. you don't need cops, people can take care of themselves. then as expected you are the first to scream the loudest "where are the cops??!! first time something goes wrong..... typical cop hater...hate em till you need em. Tu, make up your mind, do you want cops or not?
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Just can't make you happy can we? You whine there are way too many cops.. you don't need cops, people can take care of themselves. then as expected you are the first to scream the loudest "where are the cops??!! first time something goes wrong..... typical cop hater...hate em till you need em. Tu, make up your mind, do you want cops or not?
I want cops to do the job that cops are supposed to do, buffoon. THIS is why I hate cops because they are so busy busting people for fines and dumb shit that they aren't actually stopping crimes.
The fact you don't understand this is why your profession is full of fuck ups.
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lol it has to start in congress doesnt mean the president cannot give congress the idea...obama didnt do shit for months until the end...sorry vince your revisionist bullshit isnt working here
I believe he's been telling both parties to compromise for months and to work out a deal...there's nothing more he could have done. Passing a budget is the responsibility of Congress, not the President.
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Lmfao! Then why did geithner write to boehner on this issue back in january?
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I believe he's been telling both parties to compromise for months and to work out a deal...there's nothing more he could have done. Passing a budget is the responsibility of Congress, not the President.
LOL real leadership here...::)
the direction of the country is the responsibility of the president....you like our direction?
again simply b/c it starts in congress doesnt mean the president cannot suggest things...
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I believe he's been telling both parties to compromise for months and to work out a deal...there's nothing more he could have done. Passing a budget is the responsibility of Congress, not the President.
You can't die a painful death soon enough.
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Lmfao! Then why did geithner write to boehner on this issue back in january?
He wrote a lot sooner than that but again when it came to the budget, Congress controlled all the playing cards
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He wrote a lot sooner than that but again when it came to the budget, Congress controlled all the playing cards
REPEAT AFTER ME YOU BRAIN DEAD MORON:
"THE HOUSE PASSED 2 BUDGETS SO FAR, AND DINGY HARRY HAS NOT DONE SO IN THE SENATE FOR OVER 2 YEARS!"
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REPEAT AFTER ME YOU BRAIN DEAD MORON:
"THE HOUSE PASSED 2 BUDGETS SO FAR, AND DINGY HARRY HAS NOT DONE SO IN THE SENATE FOR OVER 2 YEARS!"
They passed nothing. Even Republicans voted against those budgets.
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IC so if fox had said so you would believe it? ::) goodness gracious...
I bet you believe its the tea parties fault we got downgraded dont you?
OH WAIT, ;)
There is always some video evidence in this day and age. Just like this.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/06/mississippi.hate.crime/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
Jackson, Mississippi (CNN) -- On a recent Sunday morning just before dawn, two carloads of white teenagers drove to Jackson, Mississippi, on what the county district attorney says was a mission of hate: to find and hurt a black person.
In a parking lot on the western side of town they found their victim.
James Craig Anderson, a 49-year-old auto plant worker, was standing in a parking lot, near his car. The teens allegedly beat Anderson repeatedly, yelled racial epithets, including "White Power!" according to witnesses.
Hinds County District Attorney Robert Shuler Smith says a group of the teens then climbed into their large Ford F250 green pickup truck, floored the gas, and drove the truck right over Anderson, killing him instantly.
Mississippi officials say it was a racially motivated murder. What the gang of teens did not know was that a surveillance camera was focused on the parking lot that night, and many of the events, including the actual murder of Anderson, were captured live on videotape.
CNN has exclusively obtained that surveillance tape. The group of teens that night was led by 18-year-old Deryl Dedmon, Jr., of Brandon, Mississippi, according to police and officials.
Deryl Dedmon, Jr., right, could face two life sentences in connection with the killing. John Aaron Rice, left, has been charged with simple assault.
Deryl Dedmon, Jr., right, could face two life sentences in connection with the killing. John Aaron Rice, left, has been charged with simple assault.
"This was a crime of hate. Dedmon murdered this man because he was black," said Hinds County District Attorney Robert Shuler Smith. "The evidence will show that."
Asked if there could be any doubt whether the intent was to actually hurt and kill a black person, Smith responded: "No doubt about it. They were going out to look for a black victim to assault, and in this case, even kill."
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Dedmon led and instigated the attack from early in the evening, he took part in the beating of Anderson, and Dedmon was also the actual driver of the Ford 250 truck that would serve as the murder weapon, according to officials.
As the teens were partying and drinking miles away from Jackson that night, in largely white Rankin County, Dedmon told friends they should leave, saying "let's go fuck with some blacks," according to law enforcement officials.
Then, the gang of teens climbed into Dedmon's green truck and a white SUV Cherokee, and drove 16 miles down Interstate 20, to the western edge of Jackson, a predominantly black area.
The teens would have seen Anderson immediately as they exited the highway, as the parking lot where he was standing is just beside the exit ramp.
"This is the first business that you get to coming off the highway and so that was the first person that was out here and vulnerable," said district attorney Smith.
On the videotape, obtained and reviewed by CNN, the group of teens is seen pulling into the parking lot, and stopping where Anderson is standing, though he is just off camera and not visible.
The teens can then be seen going back and forth between their cars and Anderson. Witnesses told law enforcement officials this is when the repeated beatings of Anderson took place.
Dedmon pummeled Anderson repeatedly as he crumpled to the street, according to officials, though this is not visible in the videotape. Finally, after the beating some of the teens left and some got into the green truck.
At this moment on the video, Anderson becomes visible, as he staggered into view and walked towards the headlights of the truck. The truck suddenly surges ahead, running over Anderson, then continuing at high speed away from the scene.
Shortly after he allegedly drove the truck over Anderson, Dedmon allegedly boasted and laughed about the killing, according to testimony given by some of the teens to detectives.
"I ran that black over," Dedmon allegedly said in a phone conversation to the teens in the other car.
He repeated the racial language in subsequent conversations, according to the law enforcement officials.
"He was not remorseful he was laughing, laughing about the killing," said district attorney Smith.
Later that morning, James Craig Anderson's family learned their 49-year-old brother and son died in a hit and run. Only later, when witness statements were taken did they learn the real horror.
"It appears there is no doubt that this was a racially motivated killing," said Winston Thompson, the attorney representing Anderson's family. "The family is still in shock still in disbelief."
Smith and officials in the Hinds County District Attorney's office say they plan to indict Dedmon for murder and a hate crime.
Deryl Dedmon is thin, weighing a mere 130 pounds, and short -- at 5 feet; he has straggly blond hair and piercing blue eyes.
The teen, just 18 years old, has been charged with murder and now faces a possible double life sentence. Calls to Deryl Dedmon's attorney have gone unanswered.
During a bond hearing his attorney told the court he saw nothing to back up the "racial allegations."
At Dedmon's home, a girl who answered the door pretended not to know him though the pick-up truck he allegedly used as a murder weapon sticks out of the family's garage.
Police say they returned it after the vehicle was processed. A second teen, 18-year-old John Aaron Rice, has been charged with simple assault, for his part in the beating his attorney also did not return calls.
Neither teen has entered a plea.
The other teens in the group have not been charged.
And James Craig Anderson's family has decided to remain silent for now, trying to come to grips with a crime they thought was in Mississippi's past: the murder of a man just because he was black.
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They passed nothing. Even Republicans voted against those budgets.
Are you really that ignorant?
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News video at:
http://gillreport.com/2011/08/large-black-mob-attacks-white-fair-goers/
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/06/mississippi.hate.crime/
Jackson, Mississippi (CNN) -- On a recent Sunday morning just before dawn, two carloads of white teenagers drove to Jackson, Mississippi, on what the county district attorney says was a mission of hate: to find and hurt a black person.
In a parking lot on the western side of town they found their victim.
James Craig Anderson, a 49-year-old auto plant worker, was standing in a parking lot, near his car. The teens allegedly beat Anderson repeatedly, yelled racial epithets, including "White Power!" according to witnesses.
Hinds County District Attorney Robert Shuler Smith says a group of the teens then climbed into their large Ford F250 green pickup truck, floored the gas, and drove the truck right over Anderson, killing him instantly.
Mississippi officials say it was a racially motivated murder. What the gang of teens did not know was that a surveillance camera was focused on the parking lot that night, and many of the events, including the actual murder of Anderson, were captured live on videotape.
CNN has exclusively obtained that surveillance tape. The group of teens that night was led by 18-year-old Deryl Dedmon, Jr., of Brandon, Mississippi, according to police and officials.
Deryl Dedmon, Jr., right, could face two life sentences in connection with the killing. John Aaron Rice, left, has been charged with simple assault.
"This was a crime of hate. Dedmon murdered this man because he was black," said Hinds County District Attorney Robert Shuler Smith. "The evidence will show that."
Asked if there could be any doubt whether the intent was to actually hurt and kill a black person, Smith responded: "No doubt about it. They were going out to look for a black victim to assault, and in this case, even kill."
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Dedmon led and instigated the attack from early in the evening, he took part in the beating of Anderson, and Dedmon was also the actual driver of the Ford 250 truck that would serve as the murder weapon, according to officials.
As the teens were partying and drinking miles away from Jackson that night, in largely white Rankin County, Dedmon told friends they should leave, saying "let's go fuck with some blacks," according to law enforcement officials.
Then, the gang of teens climbed into Dedmon's green truck and a white SUV Cherokee, and drove 16 miles down Interstate 20, to the western edge of Jackson, a predominantly black area.
The teens would have seen Anderson immediately as they exited the highway, as the parking lot where he was standing is just beside the exit ramp.
"This is the first business that you get to coming off the highway and so that was the first person that was out here and vulnerable," said district attorney Smith.
On the videotape, obtained and reviewed by CNN, the group of teens is seen pulling into the parking lot, and stopping where Anderson is standing, though he is just off camera and not visible.
The teens can then be seen going back and forth between their cars and Anderson. Witnesses told law enforcement officials this is when the repeated beatings of Anderson took place.
Dedmon pummeled Anderson repeatedly as he crumpled to the street, according to officials, though this is not visible in the videotape. Finally, after the beating some of the teens left and some got into the green truck.
At this moment on the video, Anderson becomes visible, as he staggered into view and walked towards the headlights of the truck. The truck suddenly surges ahead, running over Anderson, then continuing at high speed away from the scene.
Shortly after he allegedly drove the truck over Anderson, Dedmon allegedly boasted and laughed about the killing, according to testimony given by some of the teens to detectives.
"I ran that black over," Dedmon allegedly said in a phone conversation to the teens in the other car.
He repeated the racial language in subsequent conversations, according to the law enforcement officials.
"He was not remorseful he was laughing, laughing about the killing," said district attorney Smith.
Later that morning, James Craig Anderson's family learned their 49-year-old brother and son died in a hit and run. Only later, when witness statements were taken did they learn the real horror.
"It appears there is no doubt that this was a racially motivated killing," said Winston Thompson, the attorney representing Anderson's family. "The family is still in shock still in disbelief."
Smith and officials in the Hinds County District Attorney's office say they plan to indict Dedmon for murder and a hate crime.
Deryl Dedmon is thin, weighing a mere 130 pounds, and short -- at 5 feet; he has straggly blond hair and piercing blue eyes.
The teen, just 18 years old, has been charged with murder and now faces a possible double life sentence. Calls to Deryl Dedmon's attorney have gone unanswered.
During a bond hearing his attorney told the court he saw nothing to back up the "racial allegations."
At Dedmon's home, a girl who answered the door pretended not to know him though the pick-up truck he allegedly used as a murder weapon sticks out of the family's garage.
Police say they returned it after the vehicle was processed. A second teen, 18-year-old John Aaron Rice, has been charged with simple assault, for his part in the beating his attorney also did not return calls.
Neither teen has entered a plea.
The other teens in the group have not been charged.
And James Craig Anderson's family has decided to remain silent for now, trying to come to grips with a crime they thought was in Mississippi's past: the murder of a man just because he was black
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I thought obama's american was going to be one of racial healing?
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I thought obama's american was going to be one of racial healing?
not with retards like you running around..
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not with retards like you running around..
Why? I'm not in the streets attacking people.
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News video at:
http://gillreport.com/2011/08/large-black-mob-attacks-white-fair-goers/
WEST ALLIS – Witnesses tell Newsradio 620 WTMJ and TODAY’S TMJ4 of a mob of young people attacking innocent fair-goers at the end of the opening night of State Fair, with some callers claiming a racially-charged scene.
Milwaukee Police confirmed there were assaults outside the fair.
Witnesses’ accounts claim everything from dozens to hundreds of young black people beating white people as they left State Fair Thursday night.
Authorities have not given official estimates of the number of people involved in the attacks.
“It looked like they were just going after white guys, white people,” said Norb Roffers of Wind Lake in an interview with Newsradio 620 WTMJ. He left the State Fair Entrance near the corner of South 84th Street and West Schlinger Avenue in West Allis.
“They were attacking everybody for no reason whatsoever.”
“It was 100% racial,” claimed Eric, an Iraq war veteran from St. Francis who says young people beat on his car.
“I had a black couple on my right side, and these black kids were running in between all the cars, and they were pounding on my doors and trying to open up doors on my car, and they didn’t do one thing to this black couple that was in this car next to us. They just kept walking right past their car. They were looking in everybody’s windshield as they were running by, seeing who was white and who was black. Guarantee it.”
News reports say a mob of unruly teenagers with some callers claiming that was racially motivated. But at least there is "some video" although all I saw was a bunch of police cars and a black woman in handcuffs.
Still, this is the reason why everyone should wait until the police dept completes the investigation because nothing really has been established or confirmed.
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Blacks have been Flash Mobbing all over the nation this summer with this bullshit. Nothing new.
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Blacks have been Flash Mobbing all over the nation this summer with this bullshit. Nothing new.
and "others" just kill moms and pops while throwing parties... or just killing and running over black innocent men.. .. yeah.. thats all good tho.. hahahah shut your failing ass up.. your story is old.. you suck at life... end of story
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Blacks have been Flash Mobbing all over the nation this summer with this bullshit. Nothing new.
I can make the same argument that there are way more white serial killers than black, more white child molesters than black. Heck, that guy in Norway killed 92 people, Tim MacVeigh killed 168 people...
People have individual responsibility for their own actions, btw there have been plenty of white people flash mobbing in areas as well...seems to be something teenagers are doing. Of course, you're simply too ignorant and stupid to see otherwise.
Stay sharp..... ::)
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I can make the same argument that there are way more white serial killers than black, more white child molesters than black. Heck, that guy in Norway killed 92 people, Tim MacVeigh killed 168 people...
People have individual responsibility for their own actions, btw there have been plenty of white people flash mobbing in areas as well...seems to be something teenagers are doing. Of course, you're simply too ignorant and stupid to see otherwise.
Stay sharp..... ::)
Really? want to show some crime stats Vince? We all know who commits the overwhelming amount of violence in this country. and it aint the chinks.
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It has happened before.
“Beat Whitey Night” a Smashing Success at Iowa State Fair
Just a little news item you won’t be hearing much about from the Lame Stream Media:
Beat Whitey Night at the Iowa State Fair
Point ‘em Out. Knock ‘em Out in Burlington, Iowa
By Sherry Tomfeld – Associated Content
The Iowa State Fair had its share of problems with “attacks” on fair goers this year. On August 14th, after several attacks, the security was upped at the fair grounds.
Over the last weekend trouble again erupted at the fair grounds where a group of 30-40 people, mostly black, were roaming the grounds and saying it was “beat whitey night”.
Beat Whitey Night ended up with 2 police being assaulted while trying to bring the black “youths” under control. To hear one of the officers account of the attack on himself, the audio is here.
Two black girls were the attackers on this policeman. One hit him from behind while he was trying to corral the one in front of him.
Was this an organized gang? No one is saying.
It puts me in the mind of the “game” being played on the Burlington, Iowa streets. It’s called “Point ‘em out. Knock ‘em out.” A group of 30 or so people point out a person walking or riding a bike and 4-6 people of the group run over and beat on them.
The Point ‘em out, Knock ‘em out game killed a Decatur, Illinois man in 2009. He was on a bike and they knocked him off. He was kicked 40-50 times in the head until he died. And while no one wants to set the racial fires burning, these groups are largely made up of black people.
The beat whitey night and point ‘em out, knock ‘em out activities are not something that Iowans want to see or are used to seeing.
Something or someone is setting racial violence into action where none was before.
Keokuk, Iowa had 5 shootings this weekend at a “disturbance” in a bar after a hip-hop contest was over and the bar was closing. No papers or TV news have said what races were involved.The media is slow to report race or motives.
Law enforcement and the media tend to try and be PC. This is not going to work. People are outraged and the anger is growing about the black violence on whites in Iowa.
Reading the blogs and comments on news sites, its clear that some think they will have to take things into their own hands. That’s going to lead to major problems.
State Rep. Ako Abdul-Samad Democrat from Des Moines said he wasn’t sure if the beat whitey night attacks were racially motivated. He didn’t have enough information.
What? This is how mole hills become mountains Mr. Abdul-Samad.
Iowa politicians and law enforcement have to get on top of this now. Iowans aren’t going to take this kind of stuff laying down. There’s no room, need or want for racism in Iowa.
Beat whitey night is appalling. And hate crimes are hate crimes. Black on white violence is just as hateful as white on black violence.
Wake up Iowa and take control.
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2010/08/24/beat-whitey-night-a-smashing-success-at-iowa-state-fair/
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Really? want to show some crime stats Vince? We all know who commits the overwhelming amount of violence in this country. and it aint the chinks.
You won't get an answer. Maybe he will come back with same lame mythical response about how whites keep the "brotha" down and inundated black communities with cocaine. Same BS as always, but different idiot spouting it.
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You won't get an answer. Maybe he will come back with same lame mythical response about how whites keep the "brotha" down and inundated black communities with cocaine. Same BS as always, but different idiot spouting it.
no.. Blacks... simply by skin color are predisposed to crime.. duh
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no.. Blacks... simply by skin color are predisposed to crime.. duh
I don't believe that. I believe its the degenerate culture that is so pervasive and who the so called leaders in the black community constantly make bullshit excuses for.
Its always someone elses fault, always someone else to blame, always a CT, always something other than what should be happening as to what is to blame.
Anyone dare speak out on the degenerate culture and they get castigated and attacked.
I have seen it might whole life and am sick of it. thats' why i dont give a damn anymore.
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no.. Blacks... simply by skin color are predisposed to crime.. duh
Why don't you respond to 333's question and at the same time support Melvin's comment? He was stating there are white flash mobs:
"... btw there have been plenty of white people flash mobbing in areas as well...seems to be something teenagers are doing."
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Why don't you respond to 333's question and at the same time support Melvin's comment? He was stating there are white flash mobs:
"... btw there have been plenty of white people flash mobbing in areas as well...seems to be something teenagers are doing."
I didnt make that statement dipshit..
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Why don't you respond to 333's question and at the same time support Melvin's comment? He was stating there are white flash mobs:
"... btw there have been plenty of white people flash mobbing in areas as well...seems to be something teenagers are doing."
Maybe, but white flash mobs usually go something like this.
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no.. Blacks... simply by skin color are predisposed to crime.. duh
No not skin color. But they view whites as the enemy. The whites messed up their communities and their earning/employment power forever. THAT IS BS.
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I didnt make that statement dipshit..
My comment was on what 333 stated. 3333 responded to Melvin. So if you are going to respond to me, you have to look at what I was addressing. It doesn't matter if you made the original statement. Do you understand now, assmuncher?
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no.. Blacks... simply by skin color are predisposed to crime.. duh
You are trying hard to make it a racist issue.
Melvin made a comment. 3333 asked for statistics.
WHERE ARE THE STATS, CHUMP!! OR IS MATH RACIST??
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You are trying hard to make it a racist issue.
Melvin made a comment. 3333 asked for statistics.
WHERE ARE THE STATS, CHUMP!! OR IS MATH RACIST??
I actually feel bad for Mal and Vince at this point. They don't even realize how off the mark they are on so much out of being brainwashed for so long on bullshit ideas and policies.
Its fucking sad. I see it in my hood with younger blacks buying into the most bullshit ideas and idealogies. Really freaking sad how brainwashed and deluded they are.
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No not skin color. But they view whites as the enemy. The whites messed up their communities and their earning/employment power forever. THAT IS BS.
To you.. but to them.. they see the people in power (for hundreds of years) as the ones fuckin them off.. and they were white
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I actually feel bad for Mal and Vince at this point. They don't even realize how off the mark they are on so much out of being brainwashed for so long on bullshit ideas and policies.
Its fucking sad. I see it in my hood with younger blacks buying into the most bullshit ideas and idealogies. Really freaking sad how brainwashed and deluded they are.
Please son.. im a beast and youre a chump.. i understand totally the social ills that plague blacks in America.. you are the one who looks at blacks with blinders..
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To you.. but to them.. they see the people in power (for hundreds of years) as the ones fuckin them off.. and they were white
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yeah, thats really the pathway to success.
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yeah, thats really the pathway to success.
didnt say it was lil guy
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Please son.. im a beast and youre a chump.. i understand totally the social ills that plague blacks in America.. you are the one who looks at blacks with blinders..
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Yeah, different decade, same excuses and bullshit.
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Yeah, different decade, same excuses and bullshit.
well thats your thought.. but when your mother can remember getting beat up and dogs being sicked on them...it might not be as easy to forget.. like i said.. you have no business speaking on this or offering your opinion as you have no first hand experience..
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no.. Blacks... simply by skin color are predisposed to crime.. duh
African Americans and European Americans aren't only separated by skin color. There are many physical and mental differences (good and bad).
I wish society could get over this whole "Were all the same, its just skin color" bullshit.
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well thats your thought.. but when your mother can remember getting beat up and dogs being sicked on them...it might not be as easy to forget.. like i said.. you have no business speaking on this or offering your opinion as you have no first hand experience..
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Three decades from now - it will be the same bogus excuses.
We all know it.
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Maybe, but white flash mobs usually go something like this.
hahahahah!!! ;D
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well thats your thought.. but when your mother can remember getting beat up and dogs being sicked on them...it might not be as easy to forget.. like i said.. you have no business speaking on this or offering your opinion as you have no first hand experience..
I don't think your mother had things worse off than my grandparents or my mother and they seemed to make things happen for themselves.
Obviously the black community has issues and there is history to what you are saying, but to continue to use "society" or "the man" as an excuse for failure or poor social development isn't really helpful is it?
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To you.. but to them.. they see the people in power (for hundreds of years) as the ones fuckin them off.. and they were white
Yeah, well their logic is skewed and unacceptable. The white man is not keeping them on the dl as they like to say. They are keeping themselves in the gutter by their own disregard for education, clean living, accountability, enamoration with gangs and their stupid inclination to follow mindless, racist fools like Sharpton. Blacks are cutting their noses to spite their faces. If these blacks continue to view whites as the enemy and they continue to look for scapegoats, then they will continue to lag behind every other race in the USA. Get with the program. Stop hating and start progressing.
I won't bat an eye when reports start coming in about whites, hispanics and asians killing blacks in self defense. Violence begets violence.
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I don't think your mother had things worse off than my grandparents or my mother and they seemed to make things happen for themselves.
Obviously the black community has issues and there is history to what you are saying, but to continue to use "society" or "the man" as an excuse for failure or poor social development isn't really helpful is it?
hell naw..my mother grew up in Baldwin hills.. im talking about most people...think about.if you are black.. and 40 years old and from the south, your mother lived through the period of American history where they were LEGALLY second class citizens.. thats just a true story
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hell naw..my mother grew up in Baldwin hills.. im talking about most people...think about.if you are black.. and 40 years old and from the south, your mother lived through the period of American history where they were LEGALLY second class citizens.. thats just a true story
AND? So the fuck what - get over it!
You have mexis who come from abject poverty and jungles who come here and get ahead.
You have africans come here and bust their ass and get ahead.
Yu have asian immigrants with nothing come here and deal with it.
Stop the excuses - everyone is sick of it. Sop the bullshit - its old, tired, and ridiculous.
Fnny too - I see mexis, peruvian immigrants, guatamalens, etc all on the blocks looking for work and doing any job that comes their way, but never young blacks alongside.
Why not?
what I do see near me are blacks with pit bulls, underwear hanging out of their pants, dirty night shirts, lazily slacking along the streets, etc.
Honestly - i am done - i dont give a fuck anymore. If "Da Community" does not want to shape itself up, I dont give a rats ass for whatever happens anymore.
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Nutter Sets 9 PM Weekend Curfew For Minors In Center City, University City
August 8, 2011 2:25 PM
PHILADELPHIA (CBS) - Mayor Michael Nutter today announced a tighter weekend curfew in the Center City and University City regions of the city, as he continues grappling with the threat of “flash mobs” in Philadelphia.
Nutter today described those engaging in flash mob rampages (see previous story) as “a tiny minority of ignorant, reckless fools.”
Then, flanked by dozens of law enforcement and community leaders, he spelled out a substantive (though temporary) change in the city’s curfew for two key areas — Center City and University City — on Friday and Saturday nights.
Anyone under 18 in those areas must now be off the streets by 9 PM.
And when parents come to pick up curfew violators, the mayor said, they’ll be told to keep track of the child.
“If you don’t even bother to pick up your child, we are immediately calling the Department of Human Services, and you can then be taken to court for other violations including neglect of your child,” he warned.
Hear Mayor Nutter’s full commments in this CBS Philly “In The Raw” podcast…
(Map provided by City of Phila.)
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And Nutter asked for the public’s help.
“We need the community to be our eyes and ears on the ground,” he said. “This is not just a policing problem. This is not just a Philadelphia Police Department challenge. This is a challenge for all of us as community members and community leaders.”
In addition, Nutter said 20 city recreation centers will be open later — until 10 PM — on Friday and Saturday nights (see list below).
Twelve minors were cited for curfew violations this past weekend. The temporary 9 PM curfew, Nutter said, will be reevaluated when the school year starts.
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Damn fucking chinks!
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American Blacks are the teenagers of this world
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You have mexis who come from abject poverty and jungles who come here and get ahead.
You have africans come here and bust their ass and get ahead.
Yu have asian immigrants with nothing come here and deal with it.
Fnny too - I see mexis, peruvian immigrants, guatamalens, etc all on the blocks looking for work and doing any job that comes their way, but never young blacks alongside.
I see mostly white people pan handling. In fact everyone i can remember at the moment that i ever saw begging for food or money on a street corner was white. Quite a few of them, fully 50% looked as though they were completely healthy and could work.
I think laziness comes in all races.
It's just that most people who come here from other countries and to work their asses off to even get here, so when they get here they are accustomed to working. The problem with much of our country is that, black or white people who are 2nd, 3rd, or 4th generation welfare grow up learning not to work, but instead crying about entitlements.
I don't doubt there was something going on at the fair, probably maybe black teenagers getting too out of control and fighting other white teenagers. Who knows?
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I actually feel bad for Mal and Vince at this point. They don't even realize how off the mark they are on so much out of being brainwashed for so long on bullshit ideas and policies.
Its fucking sad. I see it in my hood with younger blacks buying into the most bullshit ideas and idealogies. Really freaking sad how brainwashed and deluded they are.
You don't live in a hood and quite frankly, I can make an argument that history has proven the Anglo-Saxon race as being the most violent race ever.
In the last 400 years in the United States, you have dragged blacks from Africa and forced them into slavery, you killed Native Americans and forced them off their land and gave them diseased blankets, you argue about Mexico however California, Texas, Arizona, and Nevada were originally part of Mexico until whites shot and ran them down below.
Then of course we have "The Holocaust" where one white guy named Adolf Hitler killed over 6 million Jews to create the perfect race which was....let's see...blond hair and blue eyes??? Oh and lets not forget that the Japanese Internment Camps where every single Asian person were forced into barbed wire enclosed unsanitary labor camps and all of their property and posessions were seized and taken away.
Soooo.....lets keep count here....Blacks, Latinos, Native Americans, Asian, and Jews. If anything, we should be scared of you folks based on your historic record
BTW, how many times do I turn on the TV and hear about some white guy killing his entire family and turning the gun on himself. One minute he's eating his cheese sandwich or whatever and the next minute he's beating his wife to death and drowning his kids in the bathtubs and leaving bibles next to their bodies.
Point being, don't believe everything you hear on T.V or from some . The vast majority of blacks including myself have served this country in the military, work hard for a living, and pay taxes. The media features blacks as thugs, rappers, and basketball players, Latinos as illegal border jumpers who eat tacos and burritos, Asians as smart wiz kids who know kung-fu, Arabs as terrorists, Native Americans as drunks injuns, and Jews as greedy thieves...all because people are dumb enough to actually believe those stereotypes and tune in.
So, do me a favor and do not feel bad for me because my intellect supersedes yours by a mile.
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Did yoou find that article yet about airsoft rifles.
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You don't live in a hood and quite frankly, I can make an argument that history has proven the Anglo-Saxon race as being the most violent race ever.
In the last 400 years in the United States, you have dragged blacks from Africa and forced them into slavery, you killed Native Americans and forced them off their land and gave them diseased blankets, you argue about Mexico however California, Texas, Arizona, and Nevada were originally part of Mexico until whites shot and ran them down below.
Then of course we have "The Holocaust" where one white guy named Adolf Hitler killed over 6 million Jews to create the perfect race which was....let's see...blond hair and blue eyes??? Oh and lets not forget that the Japanese Internment Camps where every single Asian person were forced into barbed wire enclosed unsanitary labor camps and all of their property and posessions were seized and taken away.
Soooo.....lets keep count here....Blacks, Latinos, Native Americans, Asian, and Jews. If anything, we should be scared of you folks based on your historic record
BTW, how many times do I turn on the TV and hear about some white guy killing his entire family and turning the gun on himself. One minute he's eating his cheese sandwich or whatever and the next minute he's beating his wife to death and drowning his kids in the bathtubs and leaving bibles next to their bodies.
Point being, don't believe everything you hear on T.V or from some . The vast majority of blacks including myself have served this country in the military, work hard for a living, and pay taxes. The media features blacks as thugs, rappers, and basketball players, Latinos as illegal border jumpers who eat tacos and burritos, Asians as smart wiz kids who know kung-fu, Arabs as terrorists, Native Americans as drunks injuns, and Jews as greedy thieves...all because people are dumb enough to actually believe those stereotypes and tune in.
So, do me a favor and do not feel bad for me because my intellect supersedes yours by a mile.
You're an idiot.
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I live in the Bronx on the border of mt Vernon and Yonkers. If that does not qualify are urban jungle what does?
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Last time I checked the United States has only existed for 235 years
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You don't live in a hood and quite frankly, I can make an argument that history has proven the Anglo-Saxon race as being the most violent race ever.
In the last 400 years in the United States, you have dragged blacks from Africa and forced them into slavery, you killed Native Americans and forced them off their land and gave them diseased blankets, you argue about Mexico however California, Texas, Arizona, and Nevada were originally part of Mexico until whites shot and ran them down below.
Then of course we have "The Holocaust" where one white guy named Adolf Hitler killed over 6 million Jews to create the perfect race which was....let's see...blond hair and blue eyes??? Oh and lets not forget that the Japanese Internment Camps where every single Asian person were forced into barbed wire enclosed unsanitary labor camps and all of their property and posessions were seized and taken away.
Soooo.....lets keep count here....Blacks, Latinos, Native Americans, Asian, and Jews. If anything, we should be scared of you folks based on your historic record
BTW, how many times do I turn on the TV and hear about some white guy killing his entire family and turning the gun on himself. One minute he's eating his cheese sandwich or whatever and the next minute he's beating his wife to death and drowning his kids in the bathtubs and leaving bibles next to their bodies.
Point being, don't believe everything you hear on T.V or from some . The vast majority of blacks including myself have served this country in the military, work hard for a living, and pay taxes. The media features blacks as thugs, rappers, and basketball players, Latinos as illegal border jumpers who eat tacos and burritos, Asians as smart wiz kids who know kung-fu, Arabs as terrorists, Native Americans as drunks injuns, and Jews as greedy thieves...all because people are dumb enough to actually believe those stereotypes and tune in.
So, do me a favor and do not feel bad for me because my intellect supersedes yours by a mile.
What a rant. You mention the evil "Anglo-Saxon race" and then put every white person in the same bag.
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What a rant. You mention the evil "Anglo-Saxon race" and then put every white person in the same bag.
Yep, did a pretty good job at it too.... ;D
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You're an idiot.
Is there anything I said that isn't true.....didn't think so.
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You're an idiot.
Lol
Yup.
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Is there anything I said that isn't true.....didn't think so.
United States is 235 years old not 400
The Blacks Dragged from Africa were sold by Africans, and the other dirty little secret that black people don't want to talk about is the fact that not all blacks in the south were slaves, as a matter of fact quite a few were slave owners themselves.
The Native Americans spent most of their time and energy fighting each other, if they could have put aside tribal hostilities and presented a united front, they probably wouldn't have gotten their asses kicked so easily.
Mexico lost the war, to the victor go the spoils, cry me a fucking river
Was wondering how long it would take for Hitlers name to come up, yeah he was an evil fucker, but how about that, other white people defeated him.
Dec 1941 the Japanese attacked the US, getting put in an internment camp (while wrong) is nothing compared to the shit US soldiers and Chinese civilians faced at the hands of Japanese captors. Ever heard of the Bataan death march? The rape of Nanking?
How many times to turn on the news and hear some 6 year old was killed in their bed by a stray bullet because some gang banger decides its a good idea to open fire in a residential area? I can guarantee you it is a lot more often than than a white guy flipping his lid and killing his family.
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Is there anything I said that isn't true.....didn't think so.
You are a very arrogant individual. You have been wrong many times with your posts on these boards and each time it has been proven. The problem is your arrogance will not allow you to accept the truth.
You are wrong again in this thread and Kazan just proved it. I know it must suck for you to be knocked down a peg everytime you post here but humility goes a long way.
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every race has their animals
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You're an idiot.
Nice retort.
Do you have Down Syndrome?
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You are a very arrogant individual. You have been wrong many times with your posts on these boards and each time it has been proven. The problem is your arrogance will not allow to accept the truth.
You are wrong again in this thread and Kazan just proved it. I know it must sucks for you to be knocked down a peg everytime you post here but humility goes a long way.
Too uppity for you, bitch?
Haha. Epic internet tough guy racism.
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Too uppity for you, bitch?
Haha. Epic internet tough guy racism.
LOL. You are calling me a bitch? Aren't you the fag that spends his weekends sucking dick for a dime?
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Hear the Chilling 911 Calls From the ‘Racially-Motivated’ Mob Violence in Wis.
The Blaze ^ | August 9, 2011 | Billy Hallowell
Last week, The Blaze reported on an incident in which groups of black teenagers reportedly attacked white patrons on the opening night of the Wisconsin State Fair.
The next day, Gov. Scott Walker called in the State Patrol to ensure crowd safety for the remainder of the fair. Now, The Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Department has released audio of the 911 calls what were made during the attacks. FOX6Now.com has more:
These tapes display the graphic details of attacks, some of which were racially motivated. We also spoke with someone who could put that part of the story in perspective.
Most callers tell dispatchers they see a racially motivated melee. One caller told dispatchers, “A whole bunch of black dudes f—– jumped on me. I’m bleeding all over.”
You can watch a news report from WITI-TV, below, to hear some of the startling 911 tapes:
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
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You are a very arrogant individual. You have been wrong many times with your posts on these boards and each time it has been proven. The problem is your arrogance will not allow you to accept the truth.
You are wrong again in this thread and Kazan just proved it. I know it must suck for you to be knocked down a peg everytime you post here but humility goes a long way.
The United States has been around for over 400 years although not officially recognized until after the Revolutionary War. Slaves were being brought to America in the 1600's, before the Mayflower landed on Plymouth Rock. The U.S didn't magically appear in 1776, colonies were already established and considered the United States
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The United States has been around for over 400 years although not officially recognized until after the Revolutionary War. Slaves were being brought to America in the 1600's, before the Mayflower landed on Plymouth Rock. The U.S didn't magically appear in 1776, colonies were already established and considered the United States
KEY WORD.
When was sovereignty as a NATION established?
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The United States has been around for over 400 years although not officially recognized until after the Revolutionary War. Slaves were being brought to America in the 1600's, before the Mayflower landed on Plymouth Rock. The U.S didn't magically appear in 1776, colonies were already established and considered the United States
Really? England just said to the colonies OK you are your own country now and not part of the British Empire ::) Then what exactly was the purpose of the revolutionary war? Yeah the land mass know as North America has been around longer than 235 years the United States of America has not. I don't know who the fuck taught you history, but they should be shot.
And it still doesn't change the fact that not all blacks in the United States or the Colonies were slaves. Or the fact that there were black slave owners
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United States is 235 years old not 400
Dec 1941 the Japanese attacked the US, getting put in an internment camp (while wrong) is nothing compared to the shit US soldiers and Chinese civilians faced at the hands of Japanese captors. Ever heard of the Bataan death march? The rape of Nanking?
holy shit
"The women were often killed immediately after the rape, often through explicit mutilation[41] or by stabbing a bayonet, long stick of bamboo,[42] or other objects into the vagina. Young children were not exempt from these atrocities, and were cut open to allow Japanese soldiers to rape them"
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Really? England just said to the colonies OK you are your own country now and not part of the British Empire ::) Then what exactly was the purpose of the revolutionary war? Yeah the land mass know as North America has been around longer than 235 years the United States of America has not. I don't know who the fuck taught you history, but they should be shot.
That is why I asked him when did the colonist establish their own sovereignty.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he understood that the colonies were ruled by the British Empire. I guess I was wrong.
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holy shit
"The women were often killed immediately after the rape, often through explicit mutilation[41] or by stabbing a bayonet, long stick of bamboo,[42] or other objects into the vagina. Young children were not exempt from these atrocities, and were cut open to allow Japanese soldiers to rape them"
The Japanese were a bunch of sadistic little bastards
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That is why I asked him when did the colonist establish their own sovereignty.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he understood that the colonies were ruled by the British Empire. I guess I was wrong.
You know it was just a bunch of crackers, why bother with little details like the sovereignty of nations.
The point I am trying to make is, I'm fucking tired of black people acting like they are the only people in the history of man to ever be enslaved. Everybody has at one time or another been enslaved or kicked off their land by a superior military force.
The real greatness of the United States is that we can recognize our mistakes of the past and correct them.
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You know it was just a bunch of crackers, why bother with little details like the sovereignty of nations.
The point I am trying to make is, I'm fucking tired of black people acting like they are the only people in the history of man to ever be enslaved. Everybody has at one time or another been enslaved or kicked off their land by a superior military force.
The real greatness of the United States is that we can recognize our mistakes of the past and correct them.
Its easier for liberal blacks to whine and complain than it is to do like everyone else, which is to STFU, man up, buck up, and go to work.
They wonder why they are ignored - LMAO - same bogus excuses and complaining - different decade.
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I had a friend in the military from Wisconsin. He used to brag about how "progressive" Wisconsin was/is. Now when I talk to him, he has moved just to the right of me on the political spectrum. Live among the shit and your attitude will change.
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I had a friend in the military from Wisconsin. He used to brag about how "progressive" Wisconsin was/is. Now when I talk to him, he has moved just to the right of me on the political spectrum. Live among the shit and your attitude will change.
For the most part I don't think most Americans give a shit what people do in their private lives. The problem is we have a small % of people that think they get to dictate what is right and what is wrong. Unfortunately most of that % are politicians.