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Title: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2011, 02:27:52 AM
Hello friend,

I am look forward in hearing your side of the "other equation", which concerns the smaller fellas like me.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: DK II on August 07, 2011, 02:44:22 AM
D aspartic acid

A-HD

somatro-POP-3000

diet soda.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Thespritz0 on August 07, 2011, 04:00:34 AM
Lots of MUSCLETECH products ;) ;D
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: The Italian Lifter on August 07, 2011, 04:08:16 AM
an answer to TA would be very helpful for other natties too GH15
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Anglo on August 07, 2011, 05:23:29 AM

For the natural truth please contact.

skippilecur@yahoo.inject

lamenordon@aol.igf

mikeohearn@.frontload,com

jeffwillit@chicken'nrice.edu

herres@hrt.net

liar@scat.capslock
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: WillGrant on August 07, 2011, 05:36:57 AM
For the natural truth please contact.

skippilecur@yahoo.inject

lamenordon@aol.igf

mikeohearn@.frontload,com

jeffwillit@chicken'nrice.edu

herres@hrt.net

liar@scat.capslock

;D

D aspartic acid

A-HD

somatro-POP-3000

diet soda.
;D ;D
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: BikiniSlut on August 07, 2011, 05:39:02 AM
While we are talking about naturals...GH....are there any current figure girls that are natural? Nicole Wilkins? Erin Stern? Or do they use some minor forms of hormones like low dose anavar.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Anglo on August 07, 2011, 05:52:04 AM
Bible index  page- 972 chapter II  volume IV

Natural classifications

nat·u·ral
   [nach-er-uhl, nach-ruhl] adjective
1.
existing in or formed by nature ( opposed to artificial): a natural bridge.
2.
based on the state of things in nature; constituted by nature: Growth is a natural process.
3.
of or pertaining to nature or the universe: natural beauty.
4.
T3/T4 50-100mcg daily for twelve weeks.
5.
oxanderlone  >30 mg daily or twelve weeks
6.
Gh 2iu daily year round

if in doubt contact Noel Fuller
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Leatherneck on August 07, 2011, 07:24:53 AM
I think he answered this before. I thought he said it was high intensity lower volume. Super strict foood and supplement schedule that got in the way of every day life.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Meso_z on August 07, 2011, 09:20:53 AM
While we are talking about naturals...GH....are there any current figure girls that are natural? Nicole Wilkins? Erin Stern? Or do they use some minor forms of hormones like low dose anavar.
You tell us, "BikiniSlut".
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Natural Man on August 07, 2011, 09:56:57 AM
While we are talking about naturals...GH....are there any current figure girls that are natural? Nicole Wilkins? Erin Stern? Or do they use some minor forms of hormones like low dose anavar.
is this a serious question?
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on August 07, 2011, 09:58:35 AM
Asking a lifetime steorid abuser for natural advice, great...just great!

If u already train hard and done it for years there is probably nothing u can do to make your body change very much.

U can go for strenght, but that wont change how your body will look like. I have ben natty 17 years accept 2 times when I tried 10mg of some pink shit for 2 months. Thoose 2 months with 10mg /dag gave me more gain  than the last 5 years of serious weight training. Muscles just filled up while the waist got smaler...magic!

For me and everybody else who is natty I think heavy ass weights are the thing. For exampel, my legs just get smaler if I do longer sessions of cardio or dont train heavy. And now when im 32 my waist got more fat. Thats a bitch! : ) I can get ride of it pretty easy but then I have to sacrifice musclemas and strenght and I dont wanne do that.

Go for powerlifting movements and try to be stronger all the time, never give up. And then do the other bodybuilding related excercises to.

My recepie for a natty :D Good luck!
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: BikiniSlut on August 07, 2011, 10:00:06 AM
is this a serious question?

It most certainly is.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Big Worm on August 07, 2011, 11:49:14 AM
Hello friend,

I am look forward in hearing your side of the "other equation", which concerns the smaller fellas like me.

Thanks.
Good luck.. This Prick has no idea,what training natural is..
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on August 07, 2011, 12:26:34 PM
gh15 and the word 'natural' DO NOT BELING IN SAME SENTENCE,,,,
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Moen on August 07, 2011, 12:36:57 PM
It goes to reason that the same things that work clean, work even better on drugs so it's not a stupid question to ask him at all.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Stavios on August 07, 2011, 12:37:56 PM
there's not point in training and eating if you are natural

a natural should watch TV and let himself starve to death

 
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: dustin on August 07, 2011, 04:44:23 PM
Religion of peace ::)
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: GroinkTropin on August 07, 2011, 05:00:34 PM
I am natty and making great gains, even while dieting. It's called willpower hard work and patience..Also, realistic expectations.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Nirvana on August 07, 2011, 05:22:14 PM
use hormones and deny it
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 07, 2011, 05:31:04 PM
LOL at all the responses  :D


I am natty and making great gains, even while dieting. It's called willpower hard work and patience..Also, realistic expectations.

Gains, to me, imply you're putting on size you never had before.

At best you are putting back on some muscle you had before. Of course, you are former steroid user so you're never getting
anywhere close to what you once were.

You are not making any gains.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: gh15 on August 07, 2011, 05:34:47 PM
there's not point in training and eating if you are natural

a natural should watch TV and let himself starve to death

 

lol ,, i like you ,, you are wasting time in that boucing balonie,, you need to get much higher and better places,, youre a smart kid

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: makaveli25 on August 07, 2011, 05:35:46 PM
Ask the greatest natural of all time.



















Groink
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2011, 05:50:51 PM
Gh15,

Once people stop using steroids, do they revert back to their natural form or is the reversion much worse than what they attained naturally? 
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: che on August 07, 2011, 05:54:18 PM
Gh15,

Once people stop using steroids, do they revert back to their natural form or is the reversion much worse than what they attained naturally? 

True Adonis you look great.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2011, 06:04:07 PM
True Adonis you look great.
Thanks, you also.  I look the same year in and year out and have gotten used to it.  What about you?
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: gh15 on August 07, 2011, 06:04:27 PM
Gh15,

Once people stop using steroids, do they revert back to their natural form or is the reversion much worse than what they attained naturally? 

they go back to the starting line + what they added to get to their max optimal natural ,, meaning they get down to the new base steroids created,, if not sick they can maintain it ,, if you were 173 10% before starting hormones and your natural was supposed to be 190 10% ...and steroids got you there...you will get down to that 190 and thats where you will stop,,

if you get sick or not training at all or say fuck it all ...you will get back to exactly where you started because body will want to where it was before introduction of chemicals,, but this is if you really stopped everything and anyhthing and said fuck it,,

in any case you will lose lots of lean muscle and increase bodyfat when off hormones wether training or not,, the reason fellas stop training is because their hormonal system crush very bad,, and because when you been 220 8% and feeling invinsible...it is quite the dissapointment to walk around 180lb 15% and kicking weight around...

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: che on August 07, 2011, 06:11:33 PM
Thanks, you also.  I look the same year in and year out and have gotten used to it.  What about you?
Same here , I look the same as I did 10 Years ago.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2011, 06:12:34 PM
I think this is my natural limit GH15 and this is about how I look today.  What do you make of this.

Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2011, 06:14:15 PM
Same here , I look the same as I did 10 Years ago.
What do you weigh right now? 
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: che on August 07, 2011, 06:23:53 PM
What do you weigh right now? 

175lbs 5'9''   about 10% bf
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2011, 06:32:01 PM
175lbs 5'9''   about 10% bf
Sky is the limit bro.  I am about the same weight except a few inches taller than you.

(http://i55.tinypic.com/20i9p55.jpg)
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2011, 08:37:44 PM
True Adonis you look great. (yes, homo)

.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: disco_stu on August 07, 2011, 08:41:34 PM
Asking a lifetime steorid abuser for natural advice, great...just great!
...

exactly. not only is he a life time steroid abuser, its enabled him to observe things that he puts simpleton causation to and then spruiks as fact.

the guy doesnt even know about mechanics of lifting let alone training on limited hormones..

seriously is this board absolutely full of dumb asses?

are you all not able to think for yourselves?- have you no ability to be logical, methodical, systematic and do some research as well as work out that the human body doesnt operate on a "do this and you get that" level?

not even animals operate like that.

in order to understand how to train, get a grip on what homeostasis is, mechanics and biomechanics, the chemistry and interaction of chemicals in your body and the relationship between stress and hormones..for a start- quickly you'll see there isnt an easy, straight forward answer.

its the same for when using drugs- thats why 99% of what GH15 sayd is complete retard stuff. listen only when he tells you what he's seen..then close your ears when he gives you the "explanation"..at best its his uneducated guess, and at worst its hearsay - who knows who told him..
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: disco_stu on August 07, 2011, 08:46:56 PM
they go back to the starting line + what they added to get to their max optimal natural ,, meaning they get down to the new base steroids created,, if not sick they can maintain it ,, if you were 173 10% before starting hormones and your natural was supposed to be 190 10% ...and steroids got you there...you will get down to that 190 and thats where you will stop,,

if you get sick or not training at all or say fuck it all ...you will get back to exactly where you started because body will want to where it was before introduction of chemicals,, but this is if you really stopped everything and anyhthing and said fuck it,,

in any case you will lose lots of lean muscle and increase bodyfat when off hormones wether training or not,, the reason fellas stop training is because their hormonal system crush very bad,, and because when you been 220 8% and feeling invinsible...it is quite the dissapointment to walk around 180lb 15% and kicking weight around...

gh15 approved

wrong again GH15.

maybe for massive abusers you are close to being right, but not for anyone who trains hard and has dedication. first of all , it defies logic, secondly, anecdotes prove your dumb fuck theory wrong.

again you are relating your experiences only.. your "sample" of the population includes people you know or have heard of...its not a rule- its your representation of what you have seen.

if you'd seen other "samples" you'd say something different. MANY people who stop using get back to what they gained and go beyond.

this is another addition to your long list of ridiculous statements that dont correlate to the evidence that is available..granted they correlate to your fishbowl world.

for instance, if you only saw a bunch of people who all ran the 100m and they all trained really hard and the best they ever got was 11 seconds, then you'd be here telling everyone that 11 seconds was the best they'd be able to do. meanwhile a load of elites are smashing 10 seconds and have been doing so for years.

in a nut shell thats whats wrong with everything you post here at GB.

Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: gh15 on August 07, 2011, 09:07:22 PM
exactly. not only is he a life time steroid abuser, its enabled him to observe things that he puts simpleton causation to and then spruiks as fact.

the guy doesnt even know about mechanics of lifting let alone training on limited hormones..

seriously is this board absolutely full of dumb asses?

are you all not able to think for yourselves?- have you no ability to be logical, methodical, systematic and do some research as well as work out that the human body doesnt operate on a "do this and you get that" level?

not even animals operate like that.

in order to understand how to train, get a grip on what homeostasis is, mechanics and biomechanics, the chemistry and interaction of chemicals in your body and the relationship between stress and hormones..for a start- quickly you'll see there isnt an easy, straight forward answer.

its the same for when using drugs- thats why 99% of what GH15 sayd is complete retard stuff. listen only when he tells you what he's seen..then close your ears when he gives you the "explanation"..at best its his uneducated guess, and at worst its hearsay - who knows who told him..


mechanics of lifting eh?

this is where gh15 say byebye im not even willing to discuss your posting ,,

MECHANICS OF LIFTING!! you hear me peter putnem MECHANICS OF LIFTTING! lol i dont know if to cry or to laugh lol
think for a second how the fellas around the world who read gh15 think of you ,, for a second think what they think about the balonie you write here..arent you embaressed? dont you undertsand that if anything you said was right  i woudl be kicked out of the boarding society long ago? dont you understand you would have everyone come at once from danta and sons to tropopina to ron herison to noel suckmoney fella to lukas wood,, to skippi lacour,, to liar priest,, they would all CUM ON THE GH15 ONE AFTER THE OTHER WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF REBUTTLES AND LOTS OF ARGUMENTS,,

BUT! they have respect for their inner pride,, they know whats up ,, they know within themselves whats up ,, THEY WOUDNT BE ABLE TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR IF HAD TO ARGUE THIS BECAUSE THEN IT WOUDNT BE LIEING WITH OUT TALKING DIRECTLY TO CULT MEMBERS BUT IT WIL BE LIEING DURING CONSISTANT CONVERSATIONS WITH CULT MEMBERS....RON HERIS TRIED TO LIE BUT HE COULDNT HE COULDNT HOLD IT SO HE REVERTEED HIS LIES TO SUIT REALITY BETTER AND COMPENSATED ON WHAT HE TELLS AND WHAT HE DOESNT this is the price he payed for wanting to be someone important in the cult,, still a liar but more of a twister of the truth!

dimissed to both last postings for simply not knowing who you are talking to ,, i train bodybuild that have the genetic of little donkys in south americana ,, they truly have no genetic nothing ,,few of them doing the arnold amatuer next year and can win pro card...why? because in colombia and venezuela and brazil and mexicana .....you just have hgh coming to you direct from hospitalos into your hands...very cheap too,, you have all you can eat steroid buffet in the local pharma ....and you have all the vet products your heart desire in a local distance ,, everything in walmart south americana ,,

LEARN YOUR FUCKIN SPORT OH WAIT I WANT TO USE THE ICONS LOL

LEARN YOUR FUCKIN SPORT CULT!

there you go

dismissed,,
gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: TruthHurts on August 07, 2011, 09:14:20 PM
Asking GH15 for tips on training naturals is like asking Bay for tips on eating pussy.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: GroinkTropin on August 07, 2011, 09:38:30 PM
LOL at all the responses  :D


Gains, to me, imply you're putting on size you never had before.

At best you are putting back on some muscle you had before. Of course, you are former steroid user so you're never getting
anywhere close to what you once were.

You are not making any gains.

Interesting point...
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: dj181 on August 08, 2011, 03:54:03 AM
Just curious che, adonis, what do you wrists measure? Mine are 6 and a quarter.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: GroinkTropin on August 08, 2011, 05:04:52 AM
Interesting point...

Having debated this a bit on my own, I believe you are right...
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: bigmc on August 08, 2011, 08:07:32 AM
some of us remember the pics of adonis when he was using juice

what an idiot
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Moen on August 08, 2011, 08:32:15 AM
Adonis: how many kcals can you eat to stay in that shape?
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 08, 2011, 05:01:18 PM
some of us remember the pics of adonis when he was using juice

what an idiot
How is that possible you shitbrain when I have never used anything.  Tell me.  ???
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: che on August 08, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
How is that possible you shitbrain when I have never used anything.  Tell me.  ???

Adonis , have I told you lately that I love you .
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 08, 2011, 05:21:37 PM
Adonis , have I told you lately that I love you .
I love you so much too.
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Benoitlapierre on August 08, 2011, 06:19:18 PM
wrong again GH15.

maybe for massive abusers you are close to being right, but not for anyone who trains hard and has dedication. first of all , it defies logic, secondly, anecdotes prove your dumb fuck theory wrong.

again you are relating your experiences only.. your "sample" of the population includes people you know or have heard of...its not a rule- its your representation of what you have seen.

if you'd seen other "samples" you'd say something different. MANY people who stop using get back to what they gained and go beyond.

this is another addition to your long list of ridiculous statements that dont correlate to the evidence that is available..granted they correlate to your fishbowl world.

for instance, if you only saw a bunch of people who all ran the 100m and they all trained really hard and the best they ever got was 11 seconds, then you'd be here telling everyone that 11 seconds was the best they'd be able to do. meanwhile a load of elites are smashing 10 seconds and have been doing so for years.

in a nut shell thats whats wrong with everything you post here at GB.




they do 10 sec , with epo in stem cell , which his undetectable
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Benoitlapierre on August 08, 2011, 06:20:02 PM
he lo0k to me lower then 10% ,


did you improve legs true ad ?
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: Benoitlapierre on August 08, 2011, 06:22:37 PM
wrong again GH15.

maybe for massive abusers you are close to being right, but not for anyone who trains hard and has dedication. first of all , it defies logic, secondly, anecdotes prove your dumb fuck theory wrong.

again you are relating your experiences only.. your "sample" of the population includes people you know or have heard of...its not a rule- its your representation of what you have seen.

if you'd seen other "samples" you'd say something different. MANY people who stop using get back to what they gained and go beyond.

this is another addition to your long list of ridiculous statements that dont correlate to the evidence that is available..granted they correlate to your fishbowl world.

for instance, if you only saw a bunch of people who all ran the 100m and they all trained really hard and the best they ever got was 11 seconds, then you'd be here telling everyone that 11 seconds was the best they'd be able to do. meanwhile a load of elites are smashing 10 seconds and have been doing so for years.

in a nut shell thats whats wrong with everything you post here at GB.




th only way to truly understand gh15 it' doin wanabee pro' cycle for 2-3 years , nail 225 conditon in super heavy,
then you realize how honest he his
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: BIG ACH on August 08, 2011, 06:44:01 PM
mechanics of lifting eh?

this is where gh15 say byebye im not even willing to discuss your posting ,,

MECHANICS OF LIFTING!! you hear me peter putnem MECHANICS OF LIFTTING! lol i dont know if to cry or to laugh lol
think for a second how the fellas around the world who read gh15 think of you ,, for a second think what they think about the balonie you write here..arent you embaressed?
[/u] dont you undertsand that if anything you said was right  i woudl be kicked out of the boarding society long ago? dont you understand you would have everyone come at once from danta and sons to tropopina to ron herison to noel suckmoney fella to lukas wood,, to skippi lacour,, to liar priest,, they would all CUM ON THE GH15 ONE AFTER THE OTHER WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF REBUTTLES AND LOTS OF ARGUMENTS,,

BUT! they have respect for their inner pride,, they know whats up ,, they know within themselves whats up ,, THEY WOUDNT BE ABLE TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR IF HAD TO ARGUE THIS BECAUSE THEN IT WOUDNT BE LIEING WITH OUT TALKING DIRECTLY TO CULT MEMBERS BUT IT WIL BE LIEING DURING CONSISTANT CONVERSATIONS WITH CULT MEMBERS....RON HERIS TRIED TO LIE BUT HE COULDNT HE COULDNT HOLD IT SO HE REVERTEED HIS LIES TO SUIT REALITY BETTER AND COMPENSATED ON WHAT HE TELLS AND WHAT HE DOESNT this is the price he payed for wanting to be someone important in the cult,, still a liar but more of a twister of the truth!

dimissed to both last postings for simply not knowing who you are talking to ,, i train bodybuild that have the genetic of little donkys in south americana ,, they truly have no genetic nothing ,,few of them doing the arnold amatuer next year and can win pro card...why? because in colombia and venezuela and brazil and mexicana .....you just have hgh coming to you direct from hospitalos into your hands...very cheap too,, you have all you can eat steroid buffet in the local pharma ....and you have all the vet products your heart desire in a local distance ,, everything in walmart south americana ,,

LEARN YOUR FUCKIN SPORT OH WAIT I WANT TO USE THE ICONS LOL

LEARN YOUR FUCKIN SPORT CULT!

there you go

dismissed,,
gh15 approved

LOL fuck that made me laugh so fucking hard while I was sitting on the shitter! That was very eloquently said! LOL
Title: Re: GH15- How would you advise a Lifetime Natural to train and diet?
Post by: cephissus on August 08, 2011, 07:34:48 PM
wrong again GH15.

maybe for massive abusers you are close to being right, but not for anyone who trains hard and has dedication. first of all , it defies logic, secondly, anecdotes prove your dumb fuck theory wrong.

again you are relating your experiences only.. your "sample" of the population includes people you know or have heard of...its not a rule- its your representation of what you have seen.

if you'd seen other "samples" you'd say something different. MANY people who stop using get back to what they gained and go beyond.

this is another addition to your long list of ridiculous statements that dont correlate to the evidence that is available..granted they correlate to your fishbowl world.

for instance, if you only saw a bunch of people who all ran the 100m and they all trained really hard and the best they ever got was 11 seconds, then you'd be here telling everyone that 11 seconds was the best they'd be able to do. meanwhile a load of elites are smashing 10 seconds and have been doing so for years.

in a nut shell thats whats wrong with everything you post here at GB.



what is your sample size?  surely less than a top olympian who has been training people for the last twenty years, right?

or have you perhaps reviewed other "evidence"?