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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/06/candidates-give-obama-an-f-for-aa-rating/
THIS bitch voted against raising the debt ceiling, LMAO then blames obama for the downgrade that occured because of the stalling of the right, the debt ceiling was raised multiple times under bush, with nothing more then a simple vote. These crazies want to rape the world to gain power, they want to blame obama for everything and do whatever they can to undermine him.
republican politics of the far right are a joke, these fucks ran up the debt more then anyone, spent more the anyone and somehow have the nerve to blame others for the debt. Clintons surplus, raped by bush, in fact in obamas first actual fiscal term he decreased the debt by 122 billion, which is next to nothing but still something.
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http://obrag.org/?p=42570&cpage=1
i hope this shit doesn't tank the world economy even more, fucking retards in congress.
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/06/candidates-give-obama-an-f-for-aa-rating/
THIS bitch voted against raising the debt ceiling, LMAO then blames obama for the downgrade that occured because of the stalling of the right, the debt ceiling was raised multiple times under bush, with nothing more then a simple vote. These crazies want to rape the world to gain power, they want to blame obama for everything and do whatever they can to undermine him.
republican politics of the far right are a joke, these fucks ran up the debt more then anyone, spent more the anyone and somehow have the nerve to blame others for the debt. Clintons surplus, raped by bush, in fact in obamas first actual fiscal term he decreased the debt by 122 billion, which is next to nothing but still something.
LOL......epic fail on your part. Hahaha.
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LOL......epic fail on your part. Hahaha.
the downgrade is the tea parties fault, they got 90-95% of what they wanted for the economy according to bohner, they fought against raising the debt ceiling and now have the downgrade to show for it.
They got what they wanted, they held out till the last day and this is the result. They are crazy, beyond.
it's sad, the world is watching in awe, european outlets are reporting that far right are holding the world hostage, that you are in fact becoming a joke, china is starting to turn as well.
this two party thing is sillly.
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Just stopping here to ungay the thread :
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(http://atlantapost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Michele-Bachmann.jpg)
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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/07/289962/sen-john-kerry-its-the-tea-party-downgrade/
obama wanted to raise it much earlier he also wanted revenue from the rich but the minority retards held congress hostage and have this to show for it.
get some real republicans in there, some real democrats jesus, these extreme polarities are insane. Fucking rick perry holding prayer to save the world. Then you got mitt romney who believes blacks where not involved in the intergalatic fight and that the leader of his church is a prophet, that jesus visited america. LOL
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Just stopping here to ungay the thread :
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(http://atlantapost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Michele-Bachmann.jpg)
id fuck her but punch her in the face until she blacked out. Her and her gay husband.
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OH YA S&P'S report tilted the republicans for fault, they were to blame for the debt downgrade. Read the fucking report. LOL.
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the downgrade is the tea parties fault, they got 90-95% of what they wanted for the economy according to bohner, they fought against raising the debt ceiling and now have the downgrade to show for it.
They got what they wanted, they held out till the last day and this is the result. They are crazy, beyond.
it's sad, the world is watching in awe, european outlets are reporting that far right are holding the world hostage, that you are in fact becoming a joke, china is starting to turn as well.
this two party thing is sillly.
yes...we should keep throwing money at problems to only create more problems and debt....good thinking economic genius. Liberal/"progressive" left = ZERO commonsense. Quit using left buzzwords such as "Hostage". Every left wing media group has used it to death parrot.
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yes...we should keep throwing money at problems to only create more problems and debt....good thinking economic genius. Liberal/"progressive" left = ZERO commonsense. Quit using left buzzwords such as "Hostage". Every left wing media group has used it to death parrot.
bush spent more the obama meatbag, he racked up three times more debt and started with a very sound economy.. Also, obamas major chunk of spending was the stimulus which saved numerous industries and kept kids in school. Obama inherited a recession, wars and failing industries, put it into context.
S&P blame you fucks, namely the crazy fucks. Bachmann voted FOR DEFAULT, are you serious? do you know what that would do to the economy worldwide?
also in obamas first fiscal year the debt decreased, this spending bullshit is a lie, you fucks spend more then anyone and the debt of reagan and the bushs i more the all other presidents COMBINED. get real.
i know your not that bright joe, but the right is raping america and now the world, protecting the elites and "job creators", going against the rest of the party.
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-adviser-blames-tea-party-downgrade-155220470.html
present some facts, not this left/right bullshit you crazy fundamentalist, serial divorcer. Why don't you meltdown and delete your account again, a grown man nevertheless.
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coach care to respond to facts? or you just going to ignore this and post opinions of morons like fat rush limbaugh.
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http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/af2c4fac-bfc2-11e0-90d5-00144feabdc0.pdf
the report
"We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act."
lol fucking owned you moron.
you are so stupid you back a party that doesn't give a sweet fuck about you and is slowly raping the nation.
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bush spent more the obama meatbag, he racked up three times more debt and started with a very sound economy.. Also, obamas major chunk of spending was the stimulus which saved numerous industries and kept kids in school. Obama inherited a recession, wars and failing industries, put it into context.
S&P blame you fucks, namely the crazy fucks. Bachmann voted FOR DEFAULT, are you serious? do you know what that would do to the economy worldwide?
also in obamas first fiscal year the debt decreased, this spending bullshit is a lie, you fucks spend more then anyone and the debt of reagan and the bushs i more the all other presidents COMBINED. get real.
i know your not that bright joe, but the right is raping america and now the world, protecting the elites and "job creators", going against the rest of the party.
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-adviser-blames-tea-party-downgrade-155220470.html
present some facts, not this left/right bullshit you crazy fundamentalist, serial divorcer. Why don't you meltdown and delete your account again, a grown man nevertheless.
Not now because I have work to do but what the fuck did you expect the White house adviser to do, blame his boss? Again, it's that commonsense think. Answer my last post.
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bush spent more the obama meatbag, he racked up three times more debt and started with a very sound economy.. Also, obamas major chunk of spending was the stimulus which saved numerous industries and kept kids in school. Obama inherited a recession, wars and failing industries, put it into context.
S&P blame you fucks, namely the crazy fucks. Bachmann voted FOR DEFAULT, are you serious? do you know what that would do to the economy worldwide?
also in obamas first fiscal year the debt decreased, this spending bullshit is a lie, you fucks spend more then anyone and the debt of reagan and the bushs i more the all other presidents COMBINED. get real.
i know your not that bright joe, but the right is raping america and now the world, protecting the elites and "job creators", going against the rest of the party.
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-adviser-blames-tea-party-downgrade-155220470.html
present some facts, not this left/right bullshit you crazy fundamentalist, serial divorcer. Why don't you meltdown and delete your account again, a grown man nevertheless.
I not that bright yet I predicted what would happen if this guy became president. Good one.
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I not that bright yet I predicted what would happen if this guy became president. Good one.
nice rebuttal joe, you cant face the facts can you, even the people who downgraded your country are saying its largely due to the repubs. Seriously, open your eyes.
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The credit rating would have went down irregardless of when the debt ceiling was raised. Our lack of being able to work together to come up with a sound plan of getting our debt under control is what screwed our rating. Bachman is a tard, I agree, but she nor the Tea Party had much to do with what happened. Years of the turd sandwich Bush and now douchebag Obama has made this mess.
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The credit rating would have went down irregardless of when the debt ceiling was raised. Our lack of being able to work together to come up with a sound plan of getting our debt under control is what screwed our rating. Bachman is a tard, I agree, but she nor the Tea Party had much to do with what happened. Years of the turd sandwich Bush and now douchebag Obama has made this mess.
yes the preceeding issues did not help however in the report a normal raise in the debt ceiling in time would have avoided this. You are missing the point, the fact that they held out till the last day places numerous lending agencies on there head, the unpredictable nature as they termed now is the reason. Getting so close to defaulting makes agencies question the sums and what they should lend.
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Why not bring this to pol board ?
hhhmmmm?
BTW - no one could possibly be worse than FailBama
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nice try moron, why dont you worry about things you actually know about?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SampP-downgrades-US-credit-apf-2107320979.html
"The promised cuts were not enough to satisfy S&P."
who wanted more cuts? who opposed?
oh yea they are warning that another downgrade maybe coming if the promised cuts were not made...
well see if bammers and pelosi can find pet projects they can cut, Im thinking another downgrade is in our future sadly enough
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nice rebuttal joe, you cant face the facts can you, even the people who downgraded your country are saying its largely due to the repubs. Seriously, open your eyes.
You mean like people on the left. Shows how unbelievably divided our country is. We didn't want the debt ceiling because of what I stated before, you can't keep throwing money at things, it makes it worse. The S&P downgraded because they wanted a $4 trillion reduction, they got a $2.1 reduction..not enough. The right compromised themselves by giving into the 2.1, if the right would have stuck to their guns and not given into the left it wouldn't have been downgraded. Either way this fiasco happen on Obama's watch. Yes, I blame the repubs as well.
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Obama does not want to cut anything. He is a spendinging addicted crackhead no different than a street thug who just won lotto.
That is why were were downgraded. They knew this was coming for months now!
Hey Necro - tell me again why Obama disregarded Simpson Bowles again all the way back a year ago?
As for Bachmann - she was one of the few alone with Ron Paul correctly pointing out that the problem is the exsiting debt as it is and we cant keep spending like ghetto street crack whores.
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All I know is China is laughing at us begging on our knees for another loan. We have to stop this out of control spending. "The trouble with socialism is that you run out of other people's money," Margaret Thatcer.
50% of US citizens pay no taxes. Now Obama and crew wants to create jobs using tax payer money. Private enterprise creates jobs not the government. The only way government could help is to get out of the way.
I think it's a lost cause. All the media and academia is left wing. They label anyone in their way as stupid and the fools go along with it.
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nice try moron, why dont you worry about things you actually know about?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SampP-downgrades-US-credit-apf-2107320979.html
"The promised cuts were not enough to satisfy S&P."
who wanted more cuts? who opposed?
oh yea they are warning that another downgrade maybe coming if the promised cuts were not made...
well see if bammers and pelosi can find pet projects they can cut, Im thinking another downgrade is in our future sadly enough
read the report, i know you haven't the quote i took is from the report, obviously what you posted isn't mutually exclusive. Tea party= stupid, bachmann claimed recently that evolution states that a wheat and a starfish make a human. She is pretty stupid.
obama offered 4.7trillion in cuts, it should be cuts and revenue increase.
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Why not bring this to pol board ?
hhhmmmm?
BTW - no one could possibly be worse than FailBama
where is the source and context of this if you wouldnt mind.
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read the report, i know you haven't the quote i took is from the report, obviously what you posted isn't mutually exclusive. Tea party= stupid, bachmann claimed recently that evolution states that a wheat and a starfish make a human. She is pretty stupid.
obama offered 4.7trillion in cuts, it should be cuts and revenue increase.
please point out your quote...
is it the one about the amount of fighting in washington?
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nice try moron, why dont you worry about things you actually know about?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SampP-downgrades-US-credit-apf-2107320979.html
"The promised cuts were not enough to satisfy S&P."
who wanted more cuts? who opposed?
oh yea they are warning that another downgrade maybe coming if the promised cuts were not made...
well see if bammers and pelosi can find pet projects they can cut, Im thinking another downgrade is in our future sadly enough
you are so angry that i keep owning the shit out of you, lol, your first sentence had an insult, i didnt even see it, LMAO.
ID and evolution are compatible this guy claims. ::) go read a book
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you are so angry that i keep owning the shit out of you, lol, your first sentence had an insult, i didnt even see it, LMAO.
ID and evolution are compatible this guy claims. ::) go read a book
LMFAO, owning me? hahahahhahahahhahah
you mean your theory that correlation means causation? WRONG!!!
you mean your idea that having a creator and believing in evolution is impossible? WRONG!!!
what else?
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please point out your quote...
is it the one about the amount of fighting in washington?
jesus read the report before you open your mouth. Nevermind you just believe anything without evidence, a syndrome of your faith. Page 4, on the bottom of the report. I suggest you read past that too an examine the actual underpinnings of what your party has implemented, pure shite.
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LMFAO, owning me? hahahahhahahahhahah
you mean your theory that correlation means causation? WRONG!!!
you mean your idea that having a creator and believing in evolution is impossible? WRONG!!!
what else?
ok tommy, mr science. Creator and ID is incompatible with the idea of evolution. ID is a christian movement, define the creator, usually its god as assumed. ID is clearly incompatible, a creator of christian ideology also. Adam created eve from his rib=evolution right.
i shit all over you in every debate. I write reasoned logic arguments and you respond with one liners just saying im wrong. Look at the stats argument thread. You are so unaware of what i was saying you couldn't even understand my position.
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jesus read the report before you open your mouth. Nevermind you just believe anything without evidence, a syndrome of your faith. Page 4, on the bottom of the report. I suggest you read past that too an examine the actual underpinnings of what your party has implemented, pure shite.
LMFAO, bro youve been wrong on everything thus far...
you believe that correlation means that there is a cause and effect relationship...again stats 101...
you believe that if you believe in a creator you cant believe in evolution...logic 101 sadly enough...
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LMFAO, owning me? hahahahhahahahhahah
you mean your theory that correlation means causation? WRONG!!!
you mean your idea that having a creator and believing in evolution is impossible? WRONG!!!
what else?
bachmann voted for default right? she sounds like a logical person that is prime to lead the united states.
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ok tommy, mr science. Creator and ID is incompatible with the idea of evolution. ID is a christian movement, define the creator, usually its god as assumed. ID is clearly incompatible, a creator of christian ideology also. Adam created eve from his rib=evolution right.
i shit all over you in every debate. I write reasoned logic arguments and you respond with one liners just saying im wrong. Look at the stats argument thread. You are so unaware of what i was saying you couldn't even understand my position.
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lol where did i ever say i took a literal view of the Bible?...
you know one of the founders of natural selection believed in a creator, right?
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bachmann voted for default right? she sounds like a logical person that is prime to lead the united states.
lol you think I like bachmann?
hahahah, i think she is fairly nutty...
difference is I also think the same about pelosi and obama...
you however only see it on one side, that is what we call delusional ;)
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LMFAO, bro youve been wrong on everything thus far...
you believe that correlation means that there is a cause and effect relationship...again stats 101...
you believe that if you believe in a creator you cant believe in evolution...logic 101 sadly enough...
cause and effect are a tricky term and it depends on what natural science we are discussing, sadly you are unaware of this.. I didnt say you cant believe in both, i said ID is incompatible with evolution as is a judeochristian god. You lack reading comprehension as already alluded, you can believe in god, allah, FSM, evolution and the matrix, no one said you couldn't, its just that some parts of both ideologies are mutually exclusive. Like ID and irreducibly complex, and god making eve from adams rib and the accounts and timeline of the bible. You are an irrational person by definition, you believe the most important question in life based on zero evidence.
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bachmann voted for default right? she sounds like a logical person that is prime to lead the united states.
No - she wanted to cut spending jackass.
We are borrowing .43 cents of every dollar we spend.
She voted to stop the madness unlike the basehead obama
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lol where did i ever say i took a literal view of the Bible?...
you know one of the founders of natural selection believed in a creator, right?
natual selection is not the theory of evolution, it is a fact contained within, your point? oh ya you dont have one, you are trying to erect a strawman that you will rape in a later post and allow you to feel good about yourself insted of bashing your keyboard when faced with facts and calling me "moron" as you fall asleep in a puddle of tears.
oh wait, it didnt matter what they believed either, i missed that point.
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No - she wanted to cut spending jackass.
We are borrowing .43 cents of every dollar we spend.
She voted to stop the madness unlike the basehead obama
wrong.lol you think I like bachmann?
hahahah, i think she is fairly nutty...
difference is I also think the same about pelosi and obama...
you however only see it on one side, that is what we call delusional ;)
obama is not delusional, lol he hasnt made any claims as far out and clearly outside the realm of reality as bachmann. His balanced approach was supported by americans.
also, nice deflection, how about responding to the document you asked me to reference and identify?
ignoring that failure are we.
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cause and effect are a tricky term and it depends on what natural science we are discussing, sadly you are unaware of this.. I didnt say you cant believe in both, i said ID is incompatible with evolution as is a judeochristian god. You lack reading comprehension as already alluded, you can believe in god, allah, FSM, evolution and the matrix, no one said you couldn't, its just that some parts of both ideologies are mutually exclusive. Like ID and irreducibly complex, and god making eve from adams rib and the accounts and timeline of the bible. You are an irrational person by definition, you believe the most important question in life based on zero evidence.
not at all, when you put it in the terms you did, which you said correlation means causation...
you know and I know that statement is 100% false....correlation doesnt mean causation...causation leads to correlation but correlation doesnt have to mean causation...
many ppl have different interpretations of their religious text necrosis as someone who considers themself a smart person you should know and understand this...
what do I believe and why do you feel there is zero evidence for it?
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natual selection is not the theory of evolution, it is a fact contained within, your point? oh ya you dont have one, you are trying to erect a strawman that you will rape in a later post and allow you to feel good about yourself insted of bashing your keyboard when faced with facts and calling me "moron" as you fall asleep in a puddle of tears.
oh wait, it didnt matter what they believed either, i missed that point.
natural selection is one of the main tenants of evolution is one of the main process of evolution brain child. It works hand in hand with evolution along with, genetic migration, mutation etc...these are the basis of which evolution works...how do you have evolution without these processes?
you have a very poor understanding of how evolution works my friend, try studying a bit...and while youre at it pic up a stats book too ;)
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wrong.
obama is not delusional, lol he hasnt made any claims as far out and clearly outside the realm of reality as bachmann. His balanced approach was supported by americans.
also, nice deflection, how about responding to the document you asked me to reference and identify?
ignoring that failure are we.
hahahahhaha, did you see his claims about the stimulus bill and health care bill?
hahahah that wasnt delusional?
starting to see that your just as irrational as the ppl you rail against ;)
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Bachmann's gone on record a few times noting she's an obedient and 'submissive' wife. Are voters to assume from that if elected POTUS, Old Marcus will effectively be President? Something to ponder. ;D
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Bachmann's gone on record a few times noting she's an obedient and 'submissive' wife. Are voters to assume from that if elected POTUS, Old Marcus will effectively be President? Something to ponder. ;D
she wont get elected, she isnt a viable candidate as of right now.
if obama doubles down on stupid which he is likely to do though, micky mouse will be a viable candidate by the time the election comes around
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I'd give bachmann major props if she hadn't voted 6 or 7 times to raise the debt ceiling, under Bush.
still, her current 'stop spending' approach sure tops obama's spending, so i'd vote for her in a head to head matchup.
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she wont get elected, she isnt a viable candidate as of right now.
if obama doubles down on stupid which he is likely to do though, micky mouse will be a viable candidate by the time the election comes around
Way to introduce reality on my think point. >:( ;D
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Here's a crazy way of solving all of our debt issues as quick as possible:
STOP all this war bullshit, bring our troops back and instead invest all those hundreds of billions of dollars, needed to fund the war, back into the US economy.
Can anyone here refute the fact that this would help immensely? How can we continue to dabble in foreign affairs, handing out aid to middle eastern countries, place the lives of thousands of troops on the line and waste over 900 billion dollars for a make believe war, when our house is crumbling?
Can anyone answer this homosexual's question in an educated fashion that properly explains this phenomenon?
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Addendum: As of a few minutes ago, I realized that the total costs of these wars (Irag & Afghan) are well over 1.2 trillion...
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natural selection is one of the main tenants of evolution is one of the main process of evolution brain child. It works hand in hand with evolution along with, genetic migration, mutation etc...these are the basis of which evolution works...how do you have evolution without these processes?
you have a very poor understanding of how evolution works my friend, try studying a bit...and while youre at it pic up a stats book too ;)
no i dont, its just that your claim that the founders who proposed natural selections personal beliefs have any merit to the theory is wacky. I dont care what they believe, its the evidence i care about. im not arguing about the stats again, its all there, i cant say it any other way, all i can conclude from the above post is you do not understand my position. I was in no way disagreeing with you, i was elaborating on the concept. you take that one term out of context with the rest on my arguments, it is too basic and fails to describe a true relationship, simple as that. Its stats 101, which again is to basic to have any real meaning in science.
I also, didnt say anything about having evolution without those processes, you are again putting words in my mouth and creating a strawman.
The bible should not be open to interpretation, thats a cop out. When lot raped his daughters, am i to interpret that as an act of love? when god speaks of slavery is that to be interpreted as just fucking around? What criteria are you using to determine what is factual and what is metaphor? where is this objective criteria so i can use it? otherwise its subjective non-sense and im not interested as anyone can interpret it anyway making it pointless and dilute.
you lie to get your point across, you make up my position over and over, you have ignored the original argument despite me bringing it up again. Tommy do you feel cognitive dissonance? any? pray to jesus.
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Here's a crazy way of solving all of our debt issues as quick as possible:
STOP all this war bullshit, bring our troops back and instead invest all those hundreds of billions of dollars, needed to fund the war, back into the US economy.
Can anyone here refute the fact that this would help immensely? How can we continue to dabble in foreign affairs, handing out aid to middle eastern countries, place the lives of thousands of troops on the line and waste over 900 billion dollars for a make believe war, when our house is crumbling?
Can anyone answer this homosexual's question in an educated fashion that properly explains this phenomenon?
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you cant argue against the overblown military which is more the the world combined. It's absurd and has come to be a sign of patriotism for some reason, more military=more usa booo yahhhh
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Here's a crazy way of solving all of our debt issues as quick as possible:
STOP all this war bullshit, bring our troops back and instead invest all those hundreds of billions of dollars, needed to fund the war, back into the US economy.
Can anyone here refute the fact that this would help immensely? How can we continue to dabble in foreign affairs, handing out aid to middle eastern countries, place the lives of thousands of troops on the line and waste over 900 billion dollars for a make believe war, when our house is crumbling?
Can anyone answer this homosexual's question in an educated fashion that properly explains this phenomenon?
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It's called paying the cost to be the boss. And, now that your own house in a shambles, you want to turtle and focus on domestic issues. Natural enough reaction. Many instances of isolationism over the years for you guys.
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you cant argue against the overblown military which is more the the world combined. It's absurd and has come to be a sign of patriotism for some reason, more military=more usa booo yahhhh
What's even crazier is that when you put the cost of war into perspective, being that our total debt is at 14 trillion and our expense of war is at 1.2 trillion and counting, you can hypothetically say that the cost of war comprises just about 10% of our total DEBT as a nation.
Why can't we just mind our own business for a change?
We are hemorrhaging money here folks.
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no i dont, its just that your claim that the founders who proposed natural selections personal beliefs have any merit to the theory is wacky. I dont care what they believe, its the evidence i care about. im not arguing about the stats again, its all there, i cant say it any other way, all i can conclude from the above post is you do not understand my position. I was in no way disagreeing with you, i was elaborating on the concept. you take that one term out of context with the rest on my arguments, it is too basic and fails to describe a true relationship, simple as that. Its stats 101, which again is to basic to have any real meaning in science.
I also, didnt say anything about having evolution without those processes, you are again putting words in my mouth and creating a strawman.
The bible should not be open to interpretation, thats a cop out. When lot raped his daughters, am i to interpret that as an act of love? when god speaks of slavery is that to be interpreted as just fucking around? What criteria are you using to determine what is factual and what is metaphor? where is this objective criteria so i can use it? otherwise its subjective non-sense and im not interested as anyone can interpret it anyway making it pointless and dilute.
you lie to get your point across, you make up my position over and over, you have ignored the original argument despite me bringing it up again. Tommy do you feel cognitive dissonance? any? pray to jesus.
LMFAO back peddle back peddle...thats fine bro, ill post your own words if you want me too...
youve said time and time again that correlation means causation...
natural selection is the main process by which evolution works...so yes natural selection is a part of evolution the main part as a matter of fact...
so the person who basically founded it believing in a creator does make your argument that ppl who believe in a creator cant believe in evolution idiotic...
as far as your refined argument(after you got put in your place about your broader one) that ppl who subscribe to a specific religion cant believe in evolution its based on some idiotic idea that you cant interpret the religious context differently...
why do you feel that way?
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It's called paying the cost to be the boss. And, now that your own house in a shambles, you want to turtle and focus on domestic issues. Natural enough reaction. Many instances of isolationism over the years for you guys.
Look, if I truly wanted an educated response to my question, I would have simply PM'ed you. I merely placed that post there as a point of contention by way of my rhetorical stance.
Last night, as I stroked my husband's cock while watching Bill O'Reilly's show, he started to hint at the fact that we might have to pick up and move to London soon if things get worse.
I just can't get myself used to the lack of humor and overall gloomy state of mind that folks over there have. It's too serious and for some reason dental hygiene and preservation is not high up on their to-do list.
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who is that Bachman bitch
Listen, they let a negro try to run the country and he failed, now they want to let a hoe have a try too ?
you guys are smarter than that !! ;D
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LMFAO back peddle back peddle...thats fine bro, ill post your own words if you want me too...
youve said time and time again that correlation means causation...
natural selection is the main process by which evolution works...so yes natural selection is a part of evolution the main part as a matter of fact...
so the person who basically founded it believing in a creator does make your argument that ppl who believe in a creator cant believe in evolution idiotic...
as far as your refined argument(after you got put in your place about your broader one) that ppl who subscribe to a specific religion cant believe in evolution its based on some idiotic idea that you cant interpret the religious context differently...
why do you feel that way?
nice way of answering none of my questions. The religious text must have a way to interpret them that all can use, otherwise it's useless. How could you say anything meaningful about it when i could turn around and disregard what you said because its my interpretation?
evolution is much more the natural selection, darwin didn't know half of what we know, he had no idea of genetics for example. Also, his personal beliefs have no weight, for one what do you mean by creator? what did he mean? a god that guides evolution from afar? one that set life in motion and left it? one that created eve from adams rib? this argument is useless without you defining this odd sense of creator.
you are also mischaraterizing his beliefs anyway, who would of thought ::)
he was an agnostic by lifes end and did not believe in anything resembling a intelligent designer. In his early writings he did, he however,like most rational humans refined and changed his thoughts.
"in 1879 he wrote that "I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God. – I think that generally ... an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind."
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nice way of answering none of my questions. The religious text must have a way to interpret them that all can use, otherwise it's useless. How could you say anything meaningful about it when i could turn around and disregard what you said because its my interpretation?
evolution is much more the natural selection, darwin didn't know half of what we know, he had no idea of genetics for example. Also, his personal beliefs have no weight, for one what do you mean by creator? what did he mean? a god that guides evolution from afar? one that set life in motion and left it? one that created eve from adams rib? this argument is useless without you defining this odd sense of creator.
you are also mischaraterizing his beliefs anyway, who would of thought ::)
he was an agnostic by lifes end and did not believe in anything resembling a intelligent designer. In his early writings he did, he however,like most rational humans refined and changed his thoughts.
"in 1879 he wrote that "I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God. – I think that generally ... an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind."
LOL just the way it is my man, what do you use in reasoning that you must have the same interpretation of any text?
b/c if not your views dont hold?
LOL I mentioned genetic migration, mutation etc...
wait you mean we might have different meanings as to what a creator means? hmm imagine that...
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He is a wind bag. Types a ton of meaningless pap meant to try to come across as an intelligent person. Most of what he types is pure bs wo an ounce of substance or reality.
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LOL just the way it is my man, what do you use in reasoning that you must have the same interpretation of any text?
b/c if not your views dont hold?
LOL I mentioned genetic migration, mutation etc...
wait you mean we might have different meanings as to what a creator means? hmm imagine that...
sure we can, but that doesnt change the fact that to have any meaningful conversation you have to define creator, so far you keep acting as if its so esoteric knowledge only you can access.
DARWIN WAS NOT A CREATIONIST, DARWIN DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD LATER IN LIFE YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
you have to have interpretations of text as to what is literally and what is metaphor, otherwise no one can question anything about it making it pointless like i said. If god says slavery is fine then we assume he likes slavery and that he sees it moral its not open to interpretation without evidence. You can come along and say he really means is that greenland is smaller then iceland.
You are avoiding the original argument still and now staying on with an argument (darwin believed in creation) that has been refutted yet you are still using it. Even if what you said was true, its patently false ftr, it still doesn't change the fact of the matter.
tommy you are being beaten down like an ugly step child, struggling to form cogent responses, unable to decipher my text and generally failing.
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He is a wind bag. Types a ton of meaningless pap meant to try to come across as an intelligent person. Most of what he types is pure bs wo an ounce of substance or reality.
ok guy who posts false global warming papers with obvious fraudulent data and cannot comment on it when called out. I posted the original document and quoted it, if you deny it you deny reality, although that isn't uncommon now is it.
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sure we can, but that doesnt change the fact that to have any meaningful conversation you have to define creator, so far you keep acting as if its so esoteric knowledge only you can access.
DARWIN WAS NOT A CREATIONIST, DARWIN DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD LATER IN LIFE YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
you have to have interpretations of text as to what is literally and what is metaphor, otherwise no one can question anything about it making it pointless like i said. If god says slavery is fine then we assume he likes slavery and that he sees it moral its not open to interpretation without evidence. You can come along and say he really means is that greenland is smaller then iceland.
You are avoiding the original argument still and now staying on with an argument (darwin believed in creation) that has been refutted yet you are still using it. Even if what you said was true, its patently false ftr, it still doesn't change the fact of the matter.
tommy you are being beaten down like an ugly step child, struggling to form cogent responses, unable to decipher my text and generally failing.
LOL "He considered it "absurd to doubt that a man might be an ardent theist and an evolutionist"
actually he was a agnostic as you pointed out never an atheist...
lol my friend simply b/c you believe in one religion doesnt mean you must believe exactly what that text says word for word...did they not know of metaphors and other literary tools back then? hmmm I wonder...
your idea that everyone must read a certain sentence and get the exact same thing from it is absurd and the only reason you think that way is b/c if you didnt your argument would hold no water...
lol bro you still think that correlation is causation...ill take my cues from someone a little more intelligent than yourself thanks ;)
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LOL "He considered it "absurd to doubt that a man might be an ardent theist and an evolutionist"
actually he was a agnostic as you pointed out never an atheist...
lol my friend simply b/c you believe in one religion doesnt mean you must believe exactly what that text says word for word...did they not know of metaphors and other literary tools back then? hmmm I wonder...
your idea that everyone must read a certain sentence and get the exact same thing from it is absurd and the only reason you think that way is b/c if you didnt your argument would hold no water...
lol bro you still think that correlation is causation...ill take my cues from someone a little more intelligent than yourself thanks ;)
he was agnostic, yes so what you said isnt valid. He does not believe in a god or claims not to know, thus holds no positive belief as there is evidence lacking.
I am saying that facts have only one interpretation, like if god enjoyed slavery, if there were ten commandments etc... the metaphor have to be seperated from these facts somehow and their interpretation is up for debate, however a consensus must be reached.
If what you were saying was true then why do the majority of christians believe jesus was the son of god? or god incarnate? its because parts of the bible arent open for debate, or shouldn't be. Its not some list of random words you can take to mean anything.
ifyour a chrisitian i instantly know numerous things about you, how is that?
either way you have conceded ever point, you even used an older darwin quote to somehow argue that my quote from a later date was invalid. Its either you dont understand logic or are purposely lying. Darwin could of said i love satan in 2010 and then said im an atheist in 2011. One comment invalidates the other, ill let you decide.
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he was agnostic, yes so what you said isnt valid. He does not believe in a god or claims not to know, thus holds no positive belief as there is evidence lacking.
I am saying that facts have only one interpretation, like if god enjoyed slavery, if there were ten commandments etc... the metaphor have to be seperated from these facts somehow and their interpretation is up for debate, however a consensus must be reached.
If what you were saying was true then why do the majority of christians believe jesus was the son of god? or god incarnate? its because parts of the bible arent open for debate, or shouldn't be. Its not some list of random words you can take to mean anything.
ifyour a chrisitian i instantly know numerous things about you, how is that?
either way you have conceded ever point, you even used an older darwin quote to somehow argue that my quote from a later date was invalid. Its either you dont understand logic or are purposely lying. Darwin could of said i love satan in 2010 and then said im an atheist in 2011. One comment invalidates the other, ill let you decide.
actually being an agnostic does mean you believe in a "god/gods" just not a specific god/gods. Everything I said holds...
No it doesnt b/c i know ppl that are feel they are christian that dont consider me christian b/c of some of my beliefs...
LOL goodness gracious your a moron...
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actually being an agnostic does mean you believe in a "god/gods" just not a specific god/gods. Everything I said holds...
No it doesnt b/c i know ppl that are feel they are christian that dont consider me christian b/c of some of my beliefs...
LOL goodness gracious your a moron...
no it doesnt
Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable
seriously do you even read what you write how can one be an agnostic and yet believe in the existence of a creator? you can't, your claims dont hold shit.
I know alot about you based on the fact that you are a christian, i didnt claim i would know everything. Nice ignoring the failure of your quote above as well, way to use previous quotes to prove your point when later evidence disputes it.
what we will do since you cant keep up is allow you to make one lie or false statement per post, k. you can either put words in my mouth or make false broad sweeping claims. You can even flat out ignore my points and keep trying to find something else to argue about in hopes i had forgotten about it.
you are a christian:
you believe in a god
this god is jesus
there is a heaven where god lives
god created the heavens and the earth
god created the universe
he is a personal god who cares about you.
he is omnipotent and omniscient
jesus died for your sins on a cross
you reject other religions
am i getting hot?