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Title: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 08, 2011, 11:08:17 AM
http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/a-novel-idea-register-nongun

Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S.
Constitution, as well as Vermont 's own Constitution very carefully, and
his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New
England and elsewhere.

Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners" and require
them to pay a $500 fee to the state.
Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a
fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun

Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear
mandate to do so.
He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by
the government as well as criminals

Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons
who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a
constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required
to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's
license number with the state.
"There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do
so," Maslack says

Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least
restrictive laws of any state ..
it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit.
This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate
that is the third lowest in the nation

"America is at that awkward stage.
It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the b*******."

This makes sense!
There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns.
Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way.

 ;D
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: tu_holmes on August 08, 2011, 11:34:34 AM
I agree with this!!!

Fuck yeah... I am moving to Vermont. I didn't know that they could CC without a permit.

That may be my most favorite state in the union.
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: Hereford on August 08, 2011, 12:32:26 PM
Why do you guys bother with the concealed permits? That is nothing more than a revenue-generator for the government.

I figure if I am in a position where I have to pull a sidearm, not having the proper permit is not going to be an issue at that point.
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: tu_holmes on August 08, 2011, 12:33:31 PM
Why do you guys bother with the concealed permits? That is nothing more than a revenue-generator for the government.

I figure if I am in a position where I have to pull a sidearm, not having the proper permit is not going to be an issue at that point.

Well, if you get stopped for some BULLSHIT reason and you don't have one, you're in for a bunch of trouble.

Police States and all.
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: Skeletor on August 08, 2011, 12:55:24 PM
If this is real, it's BS.
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 08, 2011, 01:44:58 PM
I agree with this!!!

Fuck yeah... I am moving to Vermont. I didn't know that they could CC without a permit.

That may be my most favorite state in the union.

:D

My grandfather use to carry concealed even when it was illegal to do so.  8)
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 08, 2011, 01:45:55 PM
I agree with this!!!

Fuck yeah... I am moving to Vermont. I didn't know that they could CC without a permit.

That may be my most favorite state in the union.

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Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: Skip8282 on August 08, 2011, 02:31:28 PM
Haha, no matter what side of the aisle, somebody always wants to pass a law telling you what to do. 

If this is real, he can go fuck himself.
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 08, 2011, 02:40:17 PM
he wants gimmick headlines with the local far-right base.  trying to be cute.

a waste of tax dollars to even talk about it and start legislation on it.  he's overlooking the fact it impedes on personal freedom and increases govt paperwork tremendously.
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: Skip8282 on August 08, 2011, 02:56:11 PM
he wants gimmick headlines with the local far-right base.  trying to be cute.


Good point.
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 08, 2011, 04:28:23 PM
Haha, no matter what side of the aisle, somebody always wants to pass a law telling you what to do. 

If this is real, he can go fuck himself.

Agree, just thought it was funny
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: tu_holmes on August 08, 2011, 07:14:37 PM
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That is interesting... crime has certainly gone down since more people could get CC permits.
Title: Re: proposed bill to register "non-gun-owners"
Post by: tonymctones on August 08, 2011, 07:45:34 PM
its crap, it also lets the morons back into who does own a gun...

if you dont register then guess what?

THEY KNOW YOU OWN GUNS!!!!