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can we get some Ron Paul haters in here to debunk anything he said?
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with what,we just print more money?
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Sean hannity said you either like big tittays, or you like Ron Paul.
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with what,we just print more money?
there's a few people here that are hellbent on saying he would be a terrible president. I'd like to hear from them on videos like this.
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He's 100% right. We're heading down the exact same path Japan did. Two lost decades for them. How many will there be for us?
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Ron Paul's tha man
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Ron Paul's tha man
so why doesn't he have a chance at becoming president according to so many? Why are people like BB hellbent and very vocal about him never having a chance?. It's people that talk like that who make it so.
Time and time again Ron Paul makes more sense than anyone else but he doesn't have a chance in hell? I'd really like Ron Paul haters to explain the extreme bias against him...
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I know some think that Ron Paul would get in office and turn the whole system upsidedown on day 1 and abolish half the government on day 2 Call back all the troops from around the world on day 3 and have America's enemies cheering on day 4 but come on, that's silly.
Ron Paul talks about what should happen and what he believes is right. It would actually be close to impossible for a president to do all that shit in one term. And half that stuff he never promised to do if he was in office. A lot of it comes from past statements, some of them made a long time ago. However it's clear that we wouldn't keep making a lot of shit worse with Ron Paul in office and he very well could force some reform on agencies back to their original purpose. One thing for sure, the bankers would finally have some checks on them.
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The guy promises to balance the budget if elected President. That alone would do more for this country's future than anything Bush or Obama has done.
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RP probably doesn't "sell" (for the media) as much as other polarizing candidates. He also doesn't go on the offensive to insult other candidates and mainly focuses on issues. People usually don't vote with logic.
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He needs to keep his answers a little tighter and go on the blitzkrieg against oamas lies. It's the only was to beat Obama. McCain tried playing nice and got steamrolled.
If rp wants to win, he needs to go for the jugular on obamas economic kamikaze mission against this nation.
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Ron Paul is the man. If he was ever elected and did what he promised he would be assassinated in the first month!
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Ron Paul is the man. If he was ever elected and did what he promised he would be assassinated in the first month!
ron paul as a martyr... something tells me they wouldn't want to touch that lol... It would just be 24/7 assassination on his plans, not his life.
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ron paul as a martyr... something tells me they wouldn't want to touch that lol... It would just be 24/7 assassination on his plans, not his life.
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I really am starting to consider Ron Paul one of the greatest Americans of our time. Just my opinion. He's so fucking spot on and consistent year after year in his ideas, ideas that are really core to what America is and what made America. Paul's words are fucking reaching legendary status imo. He's like a modern day founding father.
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I really am starting to consider Ron Paul one of the greatest Americans of our time. Just my opinion. He's so fucking spot on and consistent year after year in his ideas, ideas that are really core to what America is and what made America. Paul's words are fucking reaching legendary status imo. He's like a modern day founding father.
And the good thing is many people that used to be against him or were neoconish are turning his way now as well.
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And the good thing is many people that used to be against him or were neoconish are turning his way now as well.
I hope that's true. It's been a tricky ride since the last election. After Obama won, I documented here the instant and immediate switch of neocons toward a more Ron Paul line of thinking which I found suspicious for obvious reasons. Very soon after there was the tea party and a lot of what Ron Paul said was lost in translation along the way. I figured that as a kinda premeditated scam right off the bat. People should know, the tea party is not the same as Ron Paul. That's not to say that there are not good people in the tea party, I'm sure there are. But the tea party was manipulated from the start and it for sure shows; some elements of the tea party today look more like the neocons of yesterday in some regards.
There is no substitute, Ron Paul... all the way...
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so why doesn't he have a chance at becoming president according to so many? Why are people like BB hellbent and very vocal about him never having a chance?. It's people that talk like that who make it so.
Time and time again Ron Paul makes more sense than anyone else but he doesn't have a chance in hell? I'd really like Ron Paul haters to explain the extreme bias against him...
I don't know why it is said that he doesn't have a chance. Maybe the corporations that Ron Paul will not bow down to will donate millions to his opponent's campaign and spread misinformation about Ron Paul.
But I heard it and read it many times before and during the last USA presidential election, that a black man did not have a chance to become the prescient of the USA.
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Ron Paul is the man. If he was ever elected and did what he promised he would be assassinated in the first month!
I also heard it and read it many times before and during the last USA presidential elections, that if Obama became president he would be assassinated in the first month.
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loco, excellent point... People should not just assume Paul can't be president. I've had people tell me that they like what he says but they can't vote for him because he can't win. You make an excellent point that he can win.
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loco, excellent point... People should not just assume Paul can't be president. I've had people tell me that they like what he says but they can't vote for him because he can't win. You make an excellent point that he can win.
Even if I were one of those people and thought that he couldn't win, I would still vote for Ron Paul anyway if I like what he says.
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Even if I were one of those people and thought that he couldn't win, I would still vote for Ron Paul anyway if I like what he says.
I hear ya, but people often get stuck where they feel forced to vote for a certain person. You'll have many in America voting for who they think can best beat the other candidate over who they really want to vote for. IMO, that that crap is one of the few things I can say IS anti-American but it happens and happens often...
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I hear ya, but people often get stuck where they feel forced to vote for a certain person. You'll have many in America voting for who they think can best beat the other candidate over who they really want to vote for. IMO, that that crap is one of the few things I can say IS anti-American but it happens and happens often...
Right, it doesn't sound like much of a Democracy. People should vote for the candidate they believe would make a better president then all the other candidates.
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Right, it doesn't sound like much of a Democracy. People should vote for the candidate they believe would make a better president then all the other candidates.
I agree... sadly, but I agree...
A perfect example of media gone wrong and the system being manipulated as much as possible..
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We have a primary election for a reason. If it comes down to obama v say romney, bachmann, or whoever, only a moron would vote third party or write someone else in at this point.
Right now I am voting for ron paul in the primary but will vote for bachmann if she can keep romney from getting the nod.
However, if say romney gets the nod, I will no doubt vote for him.
Ron paul needs to upo his game if he wants to go further as his campaigning style needs to be tighter and more aggressive.
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We have a primary election for a reason. If it comes down to obama v say romney, bachmann, or whoever, only a moron would vote third party or write someone else in at this point.
Right now I am voting for ron paul in the primary but will vote for bachmann if she can keep romney from getting the nod.
However, if say romney gets the nod, I will no doubt vote for him.
Ron paul needs to upo his game if he wants to go further as his campaigning style needs to be tighter and more aggressive.
I would gladly be that moron and still vote for Ron Paul, if he were the third party. It's a matter of principle. It's Democracy.
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I would gladly be that moron and still vote for Ron Paul, if he were the third party. It's a matter of principle. It's Democracy.
See, this is where I accept the realities of the situation vs my ideals. Voting for a third party with our electoral college system is no different than voting for Obama.
If we had a straight national populor vote situation with no electoral college, than I can definately see it, but at this point, obama getting a second term under any scenario is an absolute disaster on many many many levels, that my ideals must take a back seat if the reality presents a different situation.
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I think there is a chance that RP has enough name recognition out there by now that if he chose to break off and run Independent, he could have a real chance at winning. People are so fed up right now with both of the establishment parties. I think the country is ready for an Independent that is simply going to balance the budget instead of worry about reelection.
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A vote for Romney is a vote for a continuation of the same policies we've had for the past 50 years. He is an establishment insider, that is why the state controlled media is pushing him so hard.
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I think there is a chance that RP has enough name recognition out there by now that if he chose to break off and run Independent, he could have a real chance at winning. People are so fed up right now with both of the establishment parties. I think the country is ready for an Independent that is simply going to balance the budget instead of worry about reelection.
Not true - under the electoral system - you have to win states. A third party is and will always be nothing but a spoiler for one of the other two parties unless we get rid of the EC.
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lol, see what I mean loco... prime example above... and it happens like that all over the country.
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lol, see what I mean loco... prime example above... and it happens like that all over the country.
ok genius - show me a realist way a third party gets elected under the electoral college system.
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Not true - under the electoral system - you have to win states. A third party is and will always be nothing but a spoiler for one of the other two parties unless we get rid of the EC.
that's actually not true, it is possible for a third party to win under the current system... 3333 is totally full of shit on this and has no clue of what he's talking about.
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ok genius - show me a realist way a third party gets elected under the electoral college system.
the post you are replying to I was talking with Loco about a post that happened before anyone mentioned anything about a third party lol...
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ok genius - show me a realist way a third party gets elected under the electoral college system.
plus, what a dumb fucking question... You just told loco is was not possible when it is actually possible.
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the post you are replying to I was talking with Loco about a post that happened before anyone mentioned anything about a third party lol...
Again - if its nearly a mathmatical impossibility for a third party or write in or whoever to get elected, why piss a vote away on that person?
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Again - if its nearly a mathmatical impossibility for a third party or write in or whoever to get elected, why piss a vote away on that person?
but you don't go saying it's impossible when it is! To do so makes you full of shit and nothing less. and it's not even as you define "Nearly Mathematical impossibility." That definition is as close to never as it gets without being never. It is possible and not as out of the question as you pose. ::)
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but you don't go saying it's impossible when it is! To do so makes you full of shit and nothing less. and it's not even as you define "Nearly Mathematical impossibility." That definition is as close to never as it gets without being never. It is possible and not as out of the question as you pose. ::)
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Right, it doesn't sound like much of a Democracy. People should vote for the candidate they believe would make a better president then all the other candidates.
Uh, I'd imagine that's probably because we are not a democracy.