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Republicans hold off Dems in recalls, win enough seats to keep majority in Senate
CLAY BARBOUR and MARY SPICUZZA | Wisconsin State Journal madison.com | (212) Comments | Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:00 am
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_0eab6966-c2a9-11e0-a206-001cc4c03286.html
Democratic supporters Yvonne Ziegler, of DeForest, and Lynn Nicklas and Norma Furger, both of Lodi, react to news of Republican gains in Tuesday's recall elections while watching results on a live network broadcast on the Capitol Square. Democrats gained two seats, not enough to win back control of the state Senate, with a third still undecided.
After tens of millions of dollars spent by outside interest groups, dozens of attack ads and exhaustive get-out-the-vote efforts, Democrats on Tuesday fell short of their goal of taking control of the state Senate and stopping the agenda of Gov. Scott Walker.
Republicans won four of six recall races, meaning the party still holds a narrow 17-16 majority in the Senate — at least until next week, when Sens. Robert Wirch, D-Pleasant Prairie, and Jim Holperin, D-Conover face their own recall elections. A third Democrat, Sen. Dave Hansen, D-Green Bay, easily survived a recall attempt last month.
Sens. Robert Cowles, R-Green Bay, Sheila Harsdorf, R-River Falls, Luther Olsen, R-Ripon, and Alberta Darling, R-River Hills, successfully defended their seats Tuesday.
Challengers state Rep. Jennifer Shilling, D-La Crosse, and Jessica King unseated incumbent state Sens. Dan Kapanke, R-La Crosse, and Randy Hopper, R-Fond du Lac.
Going into Tuesday, Republicans controlled the body 19-14, so Democrats needed to win at least three seats and hold onto two more next week to take over.
"The revolution has not occurred," said UW-Milwaukee political science professor Mordecai Lee, a former Democratic lawmaker. "The proletariat did not take over the streets."
Tuesday's recalls were largely seen as a test of Republican Gov. Scott Walker, who has drawn national attention since unveiling his controversial plan to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from most public workers. Proof of that was visible on election night as national news organizations broadcast from across the state and political pundits led their newscasts with result updates and discussed their ramifications on the nation's political landscape.
Republican senators were targeted for recall after backing Walker's plan. Democratic senators came under attack for leaving the state to delay a vote on the measure.
However, the focus of the recalls has since expanded, shifting away from the collective bargaining fight toward issues such as taxes and funding for public schools and seniors.
A couple thousand Democratic supporters gathered at the state Capitol Tuesday night, hopeful at first but deflated when it appeared they might fall short of the three victories they needed.
Still, some praised Democrats' modest gains.
"I think the fact that this election is going on right now is a victory in and of itself. We put them on the hot seat," said Randy Bryce, 46, of Caledonia, who came to the Capitol Tuesday with his wife and 4-year-old daughter. "I would have liked to have seen us run the table on them, but this is okay for now."
Several media reported Darling was waiting for Pasch to make a concession speech shortly before midnight, But Darling's victory allows Republicans to continue to control the Legislature and set the agenda.
"I don't think there is much of a moral victory in taking only two," UW-Madison political science professor Charles Franklin said. "This was all about taking command of the Senate."
Tuesday's unofficial results capped the most expensive elections in state history.
Cash flowing into the recalls already has approached $30 million, and total spending by third-party groups and candidates could top $40 million, election watchdogs say. That total would double spending on all 116 of last fall's state legislative races combined.
Outside interest groups have spent millions on both sides, from conservative organizations like Wisconsin Club for Growth, Wisconsin Family Action, and Citizens for a Strong America to pro-union and liberal groups like We Are Wisconsin, Progressive Change Campaign Committee, and Democracy for America.
Many view the races as a sign of whether the next Wisconsin politician facing recall will be Walker himself. The governor remained largely absent from any public appearances with the GOP senators targeted for recall.
Tony Spencer, a 36-year-old laid-off carpenter from Shorewood, voted for Darling's challenger, Democratic state Rep. Sandy Pasch.
"I'm in a private union, so they haven't necessarily come after me," Spencer said. "But everybody should have the right to be in a union. I came out to stop all the union-bashing stuff."
But John Gill, 45, of Menomonee Falls, voted for Darling and questioned the opposition's anti-GOP rhetoric, which went far beyond collective bargaining.
"This was all supposed to be about the workers' rights, so to speak. But that has not been brought up one time. It's all been misleading, the attack ads, things like that," Gill said. "The one reason they started this recall, they didn't bring up once."
— State Journal reporter Jeff Glaze and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
.Copyright 2011 madison.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Republicans hold off Dems in recalls, win enough seats to keep majority in Senate
CLAY BARBOUR and MARY SPICUZZA | Wisconsin State Journal madison.com | (212) Comments | Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:00 am
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_0eab6966-c2a9-11e0-a206-001cc4c03286.html
Democratic supporters Yvonne Ziegler, of DeForest, and Lynn Nicklas and Norma Furger, both of Lodi, react to news of Republican gains in Tuesday's recall elections while watching results on a live network broadcast on the Capitol Square. Democrats gained two seats, not enough to win back control of the state Senate, with a third still undecided.
After tens of millions of dollars spent by outside interest groups, dozens of attack ads and exhaustive get-out-the-vote efforts, Democrats on Tuesday fell short of their goal of taking control of the state Senate and stopping the agenda of Gov. Scott Walker.
Republicans won four of six recall races, meaning the party still holds a narrow 17-16 majority in the Senate — at least until next week, when Sens. Robert Wirch, D-Pleasant Prairie, and Jim Holperin, D-Conover face their own recall elections. A third Democrat, Sen. Dave Hansen, D-Green Bay, easily survived a recall attempt last month.
Sens. Robert Cowles, R-Green Bay, Sheila Harsdorf, R-River Falls, Luther Olsen, R-Ripon, and Alberta Darling, R-River Hills, successfully defended their seats Tuesday.
Challengers state Rep. Jennifer Shilling, D-La Crosse, and Jessica King unseated incumbent state Sens. Dan Kapanke, R-La Crosse, and Randy Hopper, R-Fond du Lac.
Going into Tuesday, Republicans controlled the body 19-14, so Democrats needed to win at least three seats and hold onto two more next week to take over.
"The revolution has not occurred," said UW-Milwaukee political science professor Mordecai Lee, a former Democratic lawmaker. "The proletariat did not take over the streets."
Tuesday's recalls were largely seen as a test of Republican Gov. Scott Walker, who has drawn national attention since unveiling his controversial plan to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from most public workers. Proof of that was visible on election night as national news organizations broadcast from across the state and political pundits led their newscasts with result updates and discussed their ramifications on the nation's political landscape.
Republican senators were targeted for recall after backing Walker's plan. Democratic senators came under attack for leaving the state to delay a vote on the measure.
However, the focus of the recalls has since expanded, shifting away from the collective bargaining fight toward issues such as taxes and funding for public schools and seniors.
A couple thousand Democratic supporters gathered at the state Capitol Tuesday night, hopeful at first but deflated when it appeared they might fall short of the three victories they needed.
Still, some praised Democrats' modest gains.
"I think the fact that this election is going on right now is a victory in and of itself. We put them on the hot seat," said Randy Bryce, 46, of Caledonia, who came to the Capitol Tuesday with his wife and 4-year-old daughter. "I would have liked to have seen us run the table on them, but this is okay for now."
Several media reported Darling was waiting for Pasch to make a concession speech shortly before midnight, But Darling's victory allows Republicans to continue to control the Legislature and set the agenda.
"I don't think there is much of a moral victory in taking only two," UW-Madison political science professor Charles Franklin said. "This was all about taking command of the Senate."
Tuesday's unofficial results capped the most expensive elections in state history.
Cash flowing into the recalls already has approached $30 million, and total spending by third-party groups and candidates could top $40 million, election watchdogs say. That total would double spending on all 116 of last fall's state legislative races combined.
Outside interest groups have spent millions on both sides, from conservative organizations like Wisconsin Club for Growth, Wisconsin Family Action, and Citizens for a Strong America to pro-union and liberal groups like We Are Wisconsin, Progressive Change Campaign Committee, and Democracy for America.
Many view the races as a sign of whether the next Wisconsin politician facing recall will be Walker himself. The governor remained largely absent from any public appearances with the GOP senators targeted for recall.
Tony Spencer, a 36-year-old laid-off carpenter from Shorewood, voted for Darling's challenger, Democratic state Rep. Sandy Pasch.
"I'm in a private union, so they haven't necessarily come after me," Spencer said. "But everybody should have the right to be in a union. I came out to stop all the union-bashing stuff."
But John Gill, 45, of Menomonee Falls, voted for Darling and questioned the opposition's anti-GOP rhetoric, which went far beyond collective bargaining.
"This was all supposed to be about the workers' rights, so to speak. But that has not been brought up one time. It's all been misleading, the attack ads, things like that," Gill said. "The one reason they started this recall, they didn't bring up once."
— State Journal reporter Jeff Glaze and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
.Copyright 2011 madison.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Most recalls never go through due to the limited time in campaigning however its a chilling message for the main election.
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They spent millions on this!
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All those millions of dollars spent for nothing. There are reports that the opposition's ads didn't even focus on the main reason for the recall, which was to save the rights of PUBLIC employee unions. They focused on demonizing the GOP incumbents. It backfired and it shows that most citizens are tired of their taxes being wasted and that they support the concept that no one should get a free ride. Time to end public employee unions.
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They spent millions on this!
you're really spending time with this shit lol...
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you're really spending time with this shit lol...
This is a huge issue believe it or not.
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(http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/396/223/081011_wiscrecallinternal.jpg)
LOL!!
Look at that reaction. It is appalling that she thinks she is better than the average hard working joe that is not in a union.
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Like Rush said yesterday - the the Flees vs. the Dog in this country.
These union thugs and parasites need to be stopmed out of exisistence. no reason on earth why govt workers are allowed to unionize.
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you're really spending time with this shit lol...
If this is not a worthy topic, then what is?
Hey, 3333, it seems this political board is not meant to discuss political issues and current political events. It was really created to bash Palin, Bachman and the GOP.
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If this is not a worthy topic, then what is?
Hey, 3333, it seems this political board is not meant to discuss political issues and current political events. It was really created to bash Palin, Bachman and the GOP.
Unless we are discussing some fantasy land nonsense, its not news worthy.
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Unless we are discussing some fantasy land nonsense, its not news worthy.
Yeah. Let's ignore the real issues at hand. Let's post threads insinuating that a person's college grades determines how effective a political leader they can be. Let's come up with more idiotic conspiracy theories and overanalyze a politician's daily mundane emails. Those topics are more relevant to the present political climate.
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Like Rush said yesterday - the the Flees vs. the Dog in this country.
These union thugs and parasites need to be stopmed out of exisistence. no reason on earth why govt workers are allowed to unionize.
ok, you listen to rush... check... shock... not...
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ok, you listen to rush... check... shock... not...
So?
He is dead right on this - its the fleas v the dog.
Govt workers should not be allowed to unionize against the taxpayer. Total bullshit.
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ok, you listen to rush... check... shock... not...
Hmm. Ok. So was rush wrong?
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ok, you listen to rush... check... shock... not...
he listens to rush and beck and watches fox news,don't let him tell you different. all you have to do is read his post it's like rush and beck are writing them :D
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;D
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Republicans hold off Dems in recalls, win enough seats to keep majority in Senate
CLAY BARBOUR and MARY SPICUZZA | Wisconsin State Journal madison.com | (212) Comments | Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:00 am
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_0eab6966-c2a9-11e0-a206-001cc4c03286.html
Democratic supporters Yvonne Ziegler, of DeForest, and Lynn Nicklas and Norma Furger, both of Lodi, react to news of Republican gains in Tuesday's recall elections while watching results on a live network broadcast on the Capitol Square. Democrats gained two seats, not enough to win back control of the state Senate, with a third still undecided.
After tens of millions of dollars spent by outside interest groups, dozens of attack ads and exhaustive get-out-the-vote efforts, Democrats on Tuesday fell short of their goal of taking control of the state Senate and stopping the agenda of Gov. Scott Walker.
Republicans won four of six recall races, meaning the party still holds a narrow 17-16 majority in the Senate — at least until next week, when Sens. Robert Wirch, D-Pleasant Prairie, and Jim Holperin, D-Conover face their own recall elections. A third Democrat, Sen. Dave Hansen, D-Green Bay, easily survived a recall attempt last month.
Sens. Robert Cowles, R-Green Bay, Sheila Harsdorf, R-River Falls, Luther Olsen, R-Ripon, and Alberta Darling, R-River Hills, successfully defended their seats Tuesday.
Challengers state Rep. Jennifer Shilling, D-La Crosse, and Jessica King unseated incumbent state Sens. Dan Kapanke, R-La Crosse, and Randy Hopper, R-Fond du Lac.
Going into Tuesday, Republicans controlled the body 19-14, so Democrats needed to win at least three seats and hold onto two more next week to take over.
"The revolution has not occurred," said UW-Milwaukee political science professor Mordecai Lee, a former Democratic lawmaker. "The proletariat did not take over the streets."
Tuesday's recalls were largely seen as a test of Republican Gov. Scott Walker, who has drawn national attention since unveiling his controversial plan to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from most public workers. Proof of that was visible on election night as national news organizations broadcast from across the state and political pundits led their newscasts with result updates and discussed their ramifications on the nation's political landscape.
Republican senators were targeted for recall after backing Walker's plan. Democratic senators came under attack for leaving the state to delay a vote on the measure.
However, the focus of the recalls has since expanded, shifting away from the collective bargaining fight toward issues such as taxes and funding for public schools and seniors.
A couple thousand Democratic supporters gathered at the state Capitol Tuesday night, hopeful at first but deflated when it appeared they might fall short of the three victories they needed.
Still, some praised Democrats' modest gains.
"I think the fact that this election is going on right now is a victory in and of itself. We put them on the hot seat," said Randy Bryce, 46, of Caledonia, who came to the Capitol Tuesday with his wife and 4-year-old daughter. "I would have liked to have seen us run the table on them, but this is okay for now."
Several media reported Darling was waiting for Pasch to make a concession speech shortly before midnight, But Darling's victory allows Republicans to continue to control the Legislature and set the agenda.
"I don't think there is much of a moral victory in taking only two," UW-Madison political science professor Charles Franklin said. "This was all about taking command of the Senate."
Tuesday's unofficial results capped the most expensive elections in state history.
Cash flowing into the recalls already has approached $30 million, and total spending by third-party groups and candidates could top $40 million, election watchdogs say. That total would double spending on all 116 of last fall's state legislative races combined.
Outside interest groups have spent millions on both sides, from conservative organizations like Wisconsin Club for Growth, Wisconsin Family Action, and Citizens for a Strong America to pro-union and liberal groups like We Are Wisconsin, Progressive Change Campaign Committee, and Democracy for America.
Many view the races as a sign of whether the next Wisconsin politician facing recall will be Walker himself. The governor remained largely absent from any public appearances with the GOP senators targeted for recall.
Tony Spencer, a 36-year-old laid-off carpenter from Shorewood, voted for Darling's challenger, Democratic state Rep. Sandy Pasch.
"I'm in a private union, so they haven't necessarily come after me," Spencer said. "But everybody should have the right to be in a union. I came out to stop all the union-bashing stuff."
But John Gill, 45, of Menomonee Falls, voted for Darling and questioned the opposition's anti-GOP rhetoric, which went far beyond collective bargaining.
"This was all supposed to be about the workers' rights, so to speak. But that has not been brought up one time. It's all been misleading, the attack ads, things like that," Gill said. "The one reason they started this recall, they didn't bring up once."
— State Journal reporter Jeff Glaze and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
.Copyright 2011 madison.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Read more: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_0eab6966-c2a9-11e0-a206-001cc4c03286.html#ixzz1Ud3o5RNu
You should see the libs on HP, trying to spin this into a win for their team. Side-splitting comedy at its finest.
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Celebrating ONLY losing 2 of 6 seats?
Reminds me of a guy bragging that 6 guys hit on his girlfriend at a party, but she only blew two of them...
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Celebrating ONLY losing 2 of 6 seats?
Reminds me of a guy bragging that 6 guys hit on his girlfriend at a party, but she only blew two of them...
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They spent 30 million on this douchbag
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They spent 30 million on this douchbag
Reminds me of a guy bragging that 6 guys bought his girlfriend a drink at the bar, but she only blew two of them...
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Reminds me of a guy bragging that 6 guys bought his girlfriend a drink at the bar, but she only blew two of them...
What exactly is your point? Your girlfriend is a whore?
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They spent 30 million on this douchbag
35 million
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/fund-walker-wisconsin-recall/2011/08/10/id/406835
Reminds me of a guy bragging that 6 guys bought his girlfriend a drink at the bar, but she only blew two of them...
The Unions spent 35 million Rob, and lost.
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The Unions spent 35 million Rob, and lost.
The Public Unions spent 35 million tax payer dollars and lost
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The Public Unions spent 35 million tax payer dollars and lost
Exactly, but 180 has to spin it as always.
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Fun too that the libs mostly consider this a massive loss, but 180 doesnt.
Oh - he is libertarian. ::) ::)
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Exactly, but 180 has to spin it as always.
I guess the irony is lost on 140, wasn't the whole election about the economy of WI being fucked up? So the Public Sector Union see's no problem with spending 35 million tax payer dollars, gee no wonder the economy is fucked.
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Celebrating ONLY losing 2 of 6 seats?
Reminds me of a guy bragging that 6 guys hit on his girlfriend at a party, but she only blew two of them...
More like pointing out that the liberals, for all their whining, chanting, vandalizing, phony doctors' notices, and screeching of REVENGE on Walker and the GOP, they fell FLAT yet again.
They didn't take the Senate, the whole purpose for their starting all this recall stuff. And, what gains they did make will likely evaporate in 5 days, when at least one of their fleebagger Dems gets whacked.
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Exactly, but 180 has to spin it as always.
He's doing exactly what the libs at HP are doing, pretending as if they hadn't circled Aug. 9 on their calendars for MONTHS, with the expressed goal of taking the Senate from the GOP.
And, as usual, they've yet to learn not to celebrate until the elections are officially over. The GOP can't lose the Senate and two Dems' heads are on the block next week.
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He's doing exactly what the libs at HP are doing, pretending as if they hadn't circled Aug. 9 on their calendars for MONTHS, with the expressed goal of taking the Senate from the GOP.
And, as usual, they've yet to learn not to celebrate until the elections are officially over. The GOP can't lose the Senate and two Dems' heads are on the block next week.
But 180 isn't a Liberal, he is a Libertarian ::)
or maybe he is a Librarian?
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But 180 inst a Liberal, he is a Libertarian ::)
Like Rush says - its the flees vs the dog.
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Like Rush says - its the flees vs the dog.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D and beck told me :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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I don't care what they spent - show me a link saying the repubs spent $zero, and really...
If a guy bought your GF dinner at a nice restaurant and fed her lobster,
and she blew him,
and you brag that she only blew 1/3 of the guys that spend $ on her...
she'd still be a whore, and you'd still be a sucker for bragging about it.
"Hahaha, bro, it's cool - she only sucked off 2 of those 6 guys - and they both bought her a really nice dinner. Winning brah, cause I still PWN the other 4 dudes!"
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I don't care what they spent - show me a link saying the repubs spent $zero, and really...
If a guy bought your GF dinner at a nice restaurant and fed her lobster,
and she blew him,
and you brag that she only blew 1/3 of the guys that spend $ on her...
she'd still be a whore, and you'd still be a sucker for bragging about it.
"Hahaha, bro, it's cool - she only sucked off 2 of those 6 guys - and they both bought her a really nice dinner. Winning brah, cause I still PWN the other 4 dudes!"
Really sad bro - what happened to you?
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I don't care what they spent - show me a link saying the repubs spent $zero, and really...
If a guy bought your GF dinner at a nice restaurant and fed her lobster,
and she blew him,
and you brag that she only blew 1/3 of the guys that spend $ on her...
she'd still be a whore, and you'd still be a sucker for bragging about it.
"Hahaha, bro, it's cool - she only sucked off 2 of those 6 guys - and they both bought her a really nice dinner. Winning brah, cause I still PWN the other 4 dudes!"
Your whole fucking rant is non-sense, I really doubt the public sector unions spent one cent of tax payer money on a republican, but spin away
Which one these fuckers is you?
(http://www.bigbadwalla.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/00_spin_doctors_-_two_princes-the_best_of-2004-front.jpg)
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Really sad bro - what happened to you?
attacking me and not the point of my post?
Nobody saw that coming.
I see it as a decent loss for Repubs - they lost one-third of the recall elections... in an era where supposedly, tea party fervor is stronger than ever?
Claiming a WIN would be keeping 6 of 6 seats. The fact these repubs WON election in 2008 and LOST election today... that's pretty friggin' sad for the GOP. A win? Um, no.
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Your whole fucking rant is non-sense, I really doubt the public sector unions spent one cent of tax payer money on a republican, but spin away
Do you think any independent groups spent any money on a repub?
Methinks they did...
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Do you think any independent groups spent any money on a repub?
Methinks they did...
As long as it wasn't tax payer funded I don't give a shit
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As long as it wasn't tax payer funded I don't give a shit
my point is that bragging that you only lost 2 seats - and yelling about the $ the left spent - without any details on what the right spent - is a little silly.
Maybe the right spent more, maybe less. Unless you know the FACTS, it's a detail that doesn't matter.
outside of that - bragging you only lost 2 of 6 seats is pathetic. it's like saying my chick only blew 2 of the 6 guys that hit on her. Yes, I totally pwn the other 4 guys.
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Funny how all of the dems see this as a loss and yes the supposed libertarian 240 does not.
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my point is that bragging that you only lost 2 seats - and yelling about the $ the left spent - without any details on what the right spent - is a little silly.
Maybe the right spent more, maybe less. Unless you know the FACTS, it's a detail that doesn't matter.
outside of that - bragging you only lost 2 of 6 seats is pathetic. it's like saying my chick only blew 2 of the 6 guys that hit on her. Yes, I totally pwn the other 4 guys.
What FACTS do I need to know? The fucking union dropped 35 million of tax payer money in an already cash strapped state, incredible fiscal responsibility.
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The Wisconsin Wipe Out [ Unions spent the equivalent of 29% of Wisc deficit on this! ]
Houston Chronicle ^ | Aug 10 2011 | Kathleen McKinley
Posted on August 11, 2011 8:30:49 PM EDT by NoLibZone
Ok, not exactly a wipe out, but pretty amazing, and as The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza calls it, “an undeniable defeat for labor and progressive activists”
Why? Unions poured tens of millions of dollars into recalling six Republican state senators. They were hoping to win a majority in the Senate, but it was not to be. Out of the six, only two Democrats won, and one of those was against a Repubican who was scandal plagued. Remember the angry (Union) crowds piling into Wisconsin’s state captiol building in Feb? They swore revenge for the Republicans and Gov. Walker who asked them to provide more of their own money into their own healthcare fund instead of taxpayers, and passed a bill of budget cuts and layoffs of state workers .
And as Ed Morrissey points out:
It doesn’t help these progressive activists that Walker and the GOP produced the best budget proposal in 15 years, and that the PEU reform has already begun to save Milwaukee $11 million this year and much more across the state. It also doesn’t help Democrats to have President Obama “leading” us into a credit downgrade, massive deficits, and no apparent plan to pull us out of the economic stagnation his policies have produced.
Then, to pile on more bad news for the Democrats, next Tuesday, two more recall elections take place for the state Senate for the Democrats. This was pushback for the Democrats recalling ours, but things look good for the GOP now.
It was amusing to watch MSNBC reporters and anchors practically cry into their teleprompters (MSNBC was the only news network to carry the results live). If you haven’t seen this clip of Al Sharpton during the vote, then you haven’t had the laugh you deserve.
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.chron.com ...
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This was a complete disaster for the unions. Hats off to the people of Wisconsin for holding off an onslaught from these thugs. The far-left has spent months and tens of millions of dollars telling us that Walker went too far, etc, etc. Oh how wrong they were.
By the way, 180, a non-profit Wisconsin group has estimated that the Repubs were outspent in a roughly 4:1 ratio. So fuck off with your spin, you pathetic union-supporting leftist parasite.
You far-lefties claimed the Democratic victory was a foregone conclusion. To spend millions and only win the two most vulnerable seats. Congrats on spending $30 million to win one seat that was previously by the GOP candidate by 200 in a blue district and the other in a district where the GOP guy left his wife (who campaigned against him) to shack up with his mistress. Money well spent! ::)
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I don't care what they spent - show me a link saying the repubs spent $zero, and really...
If a guy bought your GF dinner at a nice restaurant and fed her lobster,
and she blew him,
and you brag that she only blew 1/3 of the guys that spend $ on her...
she'd still be a whore, and you'd still be a sucker for bragging about it.
"Hahaha, bro, it's cool - she only sucked off 2 of those 6 guys - and they both bought her a really nice dinner. Winning brah, cause I still PWN the other 4 dudes!"
More like you spent the money on the girl. She ended up doing the Lewinsky with the other guy, while telling you "Let's just be friends".
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What FACTS do I need to know? The fucking union dropped 35 million of tax payer money in an already cash strapped state, incredible fiscal responsibility.
And, at the end of the day, they FAILED to do the one thing that they'd been cursing, swearing, and screaming that they would do for MONTHS: Take the Senate from the GOP.
As stated earlier (using 240's analogy), The GOP got serviced; the Dems were told "Let's just be friends".
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the GOP LOST seats.
at the end of the day, they lost 2 seats. They maintained a .66% "winning" percentage.
if they want to call that a win, what do they call keeping all 6 seats?
"ALSO A WIN"? Sorry, but 66% of something ain't the same as 100%. Call it a "limited defeat" or something. 66% of something is NOT 100% of something.
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the GOP LOST seats.
at the end of the day, they lost 2 seats. They maintained a .66% "winning" percentage.
if they want to call that a win, what do they call keeping all 6 seats?
"ALSO A WIN"? Sorry, but 66% of something ain't the same as 100%. Call it a "limited defeat" or something. 66% of something is NOT 100% of something.
The demos all disagree with you.
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The demos all disagree with you.
oh, you're letting the whining rants of message board libs be your own personal yardstick to measure success?
Shooting for the dirt, huh?
66% does not equal 100%.
IF 66% is a win, please define 100%.
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oh, you're letting the whining rants of message board libs be your own personal yardstick to measure success?
Shooting for the dirt, huh?
66% does not equal 100%.
IF 66% is a win, please define 100%.
It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.
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Dominic Toretto
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the GOP LOST seats.
at the end of the day, they lost 2 seats. They maintained a .66% "winning" percentage.
if they want to call that a win, what do they call keeping all 6 seats?
"ALSO A WIN"? Sorry, but 66% of something ain't the same as 100%. Call it a "limited defeat" or something. 66% of something is NOT 100% of something.
One problem, 240: The day hasn't ended yet. There are two more recall races with two Democrats' hides at stake. If and when they get beat, the GOP gets their 5-vote margin back in the Senate.
The GOP won, because their goal throughout this mess was to RETAIN CONTROL of the Senate. They have done that.
After Tuesday, they will run the Senate by either 17-16 margin, an 18-15 margin, or their original 19-14 margin.
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It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.
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Dominic Toretto
and they won 4, and lost 2.
And yes, they retain control for the next year, but the Dems are 2 seats closer to taking control in 2012.
So the repubs only lost two. But they still lost some. The second I saw Repubs claiming a WIN because they only lost two... well, that's some low ass standards.
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Tell me this - did the dems WIN in the senate races in 2010?
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They still RETAIN CONTROL of the senate.
But they got their asses handed to them in the 2010 Senate races.
So any Dem that claimed "we win!" in the 2010 senate race is a d-bag asshat who likes to have sex with jello pudding cups. As is any repub who claims "we win!" cause they only lost 2 of 6 seats.
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and they won 4, and lost 2.
And yes, they retain control for the next year, but the Dems are 2 seats closer to taking control in 2012.
So the repubs only lost two. But they still lost some. The second I saw Repubs claiming a WIN because they only lost two... well, that's some low ass standards.
You just like arguing for the sake of arguing.
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You just like arguing for the sake of arguing.
No - he is pissed off that his beloved left wing fanatics are getting beaten to a pulp all across the nation.
Remember - 180 said in 2009 we needed an obama left wing liberal policy to help rebuild the middle class.
He just can't accept the fact that the Tea Party and Taxpayers are kicking ass and steamrolling the parasites and leeches and vermin he loves so much.
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You just like arguing for the sake of arguing.
Agreed, but -
Kaz,
Did the dems get a "WIN" in the Senate in 2010?
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Agreed, but -
Kaz,
Did the dems get a "WIN" in the Senate in 2010?
I guess I would put it in this context, they didn't loose, kinda the same with WI. The problem I have with WI is tax payer money being used to fund a witch hunt.
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I guess I would put it in this context, they didn't loose, kinda the same with WI. The problem I have with WI is tax payer money being used to fund a witch hunt.
Cool, I can respect that dude.
33, do you agree? The Dems "WON" in the senate in 2010 because they didn't lose control, but did lose a lot of seats?
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Cool, I can respect that dude.
33, do you agree? The Dems "WON" in the senate in 2010 because they didn't lose control, but did lose a lot of seats?
Not at all. There are two morte elections up next week and the dems might lose and the GOP will come ahead anyway.
Funny too- even the dems consider this a massive loss, yet somehow 180 gets to try to spin this as a victory. any you wonder why the far left people are losing so badly evberywhere? You guys are delusional.
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Not at all. There are two morte elections up next week and the dems might lose and the GOP will come ahead anyway.
Funny too- even the dems consider this a massive loss, yet somehow 180 gets to try to spin this as a victory. any you wonder why the far left people are losing so badly evberywhere? You guys are delusional.
Either the Dems2010 lost, and the repubs2011 lost... or they both won.
They both LOST SEATS but retained control.
You really see a world where dems lost both times, huh? ;)
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The left spent $30 million and the Wisconsin GOP still has control of the Senate. Nothing more needs to be said. All the 180 spin in the world won't change it.
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Less Drama in White House After Staff Changes
......Similarly, the White House mostly has sought to stay out of the fray in Madison, Wis., and other state capitals where Republican governors are battling public employee unions and Democratic lawmakers over collective bargaining rights.
When West Wing officials discovered that the Democratic National Committee had mobilized Mr. Obama’s national network to support the protests, they angrily reined in the staff at the party headquarters.
Administration officials said they saw the events beyond Washington as distractions from the optimistic “win the future” message that Mr. Obama introduced in his State of the Union address, in which he exhorted the country to increase spending for some programs even as it cuts others so that America can “out-innovate and out-educate” its global rivals....
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/us/politics/04staff.h...
Dump is totally pissed off.
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The left spent $30 million and the Wisconsin GOP still has control of the senate
Um...... Were Repub donations in 2010 pretty damn high? Were voters more motiavted than ever, showing up for Beck rallies by the hundreds of thousands?\
and they couldn't even win the senate. Big loss I guess.
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You really have turned into little more than a leftist troll. Even the demos consider this a huge loss.
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Um...... Were Repub donations in 2010 pretty damn high? Were voters more motiavted than ever, showing up for Beck rallies by the hundreds of thousands?\
and they couldn't even win the senate. Big loss I guess.
Nice attempt at a straw man. 2010 has nothing whatsoever to do with this week's elections. Let me say it again as reading comprehension doesn't appear to be a requirement for getting an MBA at French Fry U:
The Wisconsin GOP still has control of the senate.
You're a pathetically stupid fuck.
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WEAC (Largest Wisconsin Teachers Union) issues layoff notices to 40% of staff
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | August 15, 2011 | Erin Richards
WEAC issues layoff notices to 40% of staff By Erin Richards of the Journal Sentinel Aug. 15, 2011 12:02 p.m. |(114) Comments
Layoff notices have been issued to about 40% of the Wisconsin Education Association Council workforce, a total of 42 employees who work for the state's largest teachers union, Executive Director Dan Burkhalter confirmed Monday.
Burkhalter said that the layoffs and other budget cuts at WEAC are a result of Gov. Scott Walker's "union-busting" legislation.
“Right now we’re engaged in membership continuation campaigns," Burkhalter said in a statement. "We’ve made steady progress in signing up members and we anticipate further progress will be made as the school year resumes. Despite budget cuts and layoffs, our goal remains the same: to be a strong and viable organization that represents the voices of Wisconsin’s public school employees.”
The organization has been working to stay relevant in a time when state legislation has severely clipped the collective bargaining rights of teachers and other public workers. The legislation makes it illegal for local teachers unions to electronically deduct dues from the payroll of teachers, and local unions also have to hold re-certification votes.
The Wisconsin Association of School Boards estimates that about 275 school districts in the state are working outside of collective bargaining agreements and subject to the new legislation. About 150 or so districts are operating under contracts that were extended with their respective unions before the legislation passed.
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Agreed, but -
Kaz,
Did the dems get a "WIN" in the Senate in 2010?
You're forgetting one thing: The GOP didn't brag and run their mouths about how they were going to take the Senate. In fact, most political pundits cited that the Republicans would get 6-8 Senate seats and 60 House seats. They did that.
On the other hand, the liberals were screaming FOR MONTHS, that they were going to stick it to Walker and take the Senate from him, as part of the BIIIIIIIIG master plan to get him recalled.
When you yak about winning the Senate but don't do it (and may cough up what relatively few gains you made, just a week later), you have LOST.