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Apparently it is an inhibitor (non competitive) of acetylcholinerasterase, I find this very interesting. I still think it's a bad drug, makes you lazy and want to eat everything, but apparently it might actually help cognitive processes while you are on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetylcholinesterase_inhibitor
Also if you smoke pot and want to quit, but are worried about losing that "edge', try not smoking for a while and taking Huperzine in the meantime. I would think the cognitive results will be very similar but Huperzine will not make you fat and lazy...
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Apparently it is an inhibitor (non competitive) of acetylcholinerasterase, I find this very interesting. I still think it's a bad drug, makes you lazy and want to eat everything, but apparently it might actually help cognitive processes while you are on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetylcholinesterase_inhibitor
Also if you smoke pot and want to quit, but are worried about losing that "edge', try not smoking for a while and taking Huperzine in the meantime. I would think the cognitive results will be very similar but Huperzine will not make you fat and lazy...
Haha that's how some insecticides work and you guys complain about chemicals used in crops.
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(http://grind365.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/arnold-pot-weed-decriminalize.jpg)
;D
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Apparently it is an inhibitor (non competitive) of acetylcholinerasterase, I find this very interesting. I still think it's a bad drug, makes you lazy and want to eat everything, but apparently it might actually help cognitive processes while you are on it.
The THC counters the cognitive stimulation, my man...short time memory drops heavily.
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falcon
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The THC counters the cognitive stimulation, my man...short time memory drops heavily.
I realize this. I have a lot of friends who smoke pot, and like to study while high, they think it makes them smarter. I am sure quite a few persons here on getbig are the same way, hence my posting. I am simple offering to anyone who smokes pot to study or whatever, try replacing it with huperzine and see what happens. Huperzine is definitely going into my stack!
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When I get Alzheimer's I'll call you for the best brand... ;)
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The THC counters the cognitive stimulation, my man...short time memory drops heavily.
I've noticed this. Is it reversible?
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Test makes you smarter, also I was taking ginkgo biloba 3 years ago and I really felt smarter, I haven't take it again because I really don't feel the need to do it, I'm doing fine without anything. However caffeine is a MUST for me.
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I've noticed this. Is it reversible?
Once the cannabinol is broken down the effect's gone.
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Test makes you smarter, also I was taking ginkgo biloba 3 years ago and I really felt smarter, I haven't take it again because I really don't feel the need to do it, I'm doing fine without anything. However caffeine is a MUST for me.
Ginkgo was promising for a while, but the latest research didn't support the claims. Caffeine, nicotine, amphetamines work very well, however..
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Once the cannabinol is broken down the effect's gone.
Meaning you'll bounce back 100% a few days after you quit? Is there no permanent damage?
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What was the question again?
Anyone else up for some Domino's?
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Meaning you'll bounce back 100% a few days after you quit? Is there no permanent damage?
Might look like someone ransacked your cookie drawer, but that's about it.
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Ginkgo was promising for a while, but the latest research didn't support the claims. Caffeine, nicotine, amphetamines work very well, however..
How safe is something that inhibits the acetylcholinerasterase? By coincidence, last night I was scanning an agronomic handbook. So you can see this is the way insects get killed and this is considered dangerous for humans too.
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Meaning you'll bounce back 100% a few days after you quit? Is there no permanent damage?
No permanent damage except a slightly higher chance to get schizophrenia, but only for those with the specific genetic makeup for that (a few % of the population). And it's pretty bad for your lungs..
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Might look like someone ransacked your cookie drawer, but that's about it.
Damn, all this time I've been thinking it's Fatpanda, getting back at me for some of my comments ;D
No permanent damage except a slightly higher chance to get schizophrenia, but only for those with the specific genetic makeup for that (a few % of the population). And it's pretty bad for your lungs..
Yes, I hate the smoking but love the high, which I need for my visions haha. Thinking of switching to cookies soon :P
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Damn, all this time I've been thinking it's Fatpanda, getting back at me for some of my comments ;D
Yes, I hate the smoking but I love the high, which I need for my visions haha. Thinking of switching to cookies soon :P
Get some THC pills or purchase a vaporizer.
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Get some THC pills or purchase a vaporizer.
With a vaporizer you still end up inhaling smoke in the end, correct?
Where can you get THC pills from? Don't think I can get any here in NZ as far as I know.
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when I'm high I can't even spell my name, it's only three letters.
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With a vaporizer you still end up inhaling smoke in the end, correct?
Where can you get THC pills from? Don't think I can get any here in NZ as far as I know.
A vaporizer is smokeless and you need a script to get thc pills here in Canada. Don't know about NZ.
My ex had a script for thc pills, we were legally allowed to grow up to 3 plants as well. She switched to thc pills after health concerns became an issue due to the smoke as well. My workplace's benefit plan paid for the pills at over $400.00 per refill.
Here's some vaporizers if you're interested.
http://www.herbalsmokeshop.com/vaporizers.html
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Thanks C-Sharp
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Yes, I hate the smoking but love the high, which I need for my visions haha. Thinking of switching to cookies soon :P
x2 Nothing like laughing at a frying pan for 40 minutes. ;D
/haven't done it in years
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Thanks C-Sharp
Haha np man...good memory. ;)
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Being a regular weed smoker, I always thought that Stephen Hawking was just really really stoned...Because inside his head he'd figured out the whole universe but on the outside he was drooling on his shirt.I know the feeling well.
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x2 Nothing like laughing at a frying pan for 40 minutes. ;D
/haven't done it in years
Been many years here as well. Too much paranoia near the end of my herbal adventuring days unfortunately.
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I don't feel smarter but certainly calmer and relaxed after a hectic day of work. Used habitually though this effect is negated and pot is just as bad as any other drug causing delusion and laziness.
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A vaporizer is smokeless and you need a script to get thc pills here in Canada. Don't know about NZ.
Vaporizer gets carconogenics in your system as well. But you don't get the burned paper in, which is in fact terribly unhealthy..
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How safe is something that inhibits the acetylcholinerasterase? By coincidence, last night I was scanning an agronomic handbook. So you can see this is the way insects get killed and this is considered dangerous for humans too.
Depending on dosage, everything is poisonous. Drink 2 gallons of water in 10 minutes and you will die from brain oedema...
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Depending on dosage, everything is poisonous.
Hi Paracelsus
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Hi Paracelsus
Allein die Dosis macht, daß ein Ding (k)ein Gift ist.
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Allein die Dosis macht, daß ein Ding (k)ein Gift ist.
"Dosage makes the difference" is so ancient
Now it's "Up the dosage" hahaha
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Been many years here as well. Too much paranoia near the end of my herbal adventuring days unfortunately.
Yep. I smoked heavily for a few years and had a similar tail-end experience. Panic attacks, paranoia, hated having to go out or interact with anyone, etc. Turned me into a fuckin' recluse. It's more my head than the drug so I envy those who can still enjoy it but after awhile it just dredged up everything bad and didn't deliver any good.
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Yep. I smoked heavily for a few years and had a similar tail-end experience. Panic attacks, paranoia, hated having to go out or interact with anyone, etc. Turned me into a fuckin' recluse. It's more my head than the drug so I envy those who can still enjoy it but after awhile it just dredged up everything bad and didn't deliver any good.
I've been reading lately that it's other chemicals in herbal products which are unrelated to the high (thc) which induce paranoia and other negative sides. Not 100% sure about that.
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Vaporizer gets carconogenics in your system as well. But you don't get the burned paper in, which is in fact terribly unhealthy..
Most literature I've read on the subject state the opposite. Vaporizers remove the carcinogens. Other articles I've read say it doesn't.
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Most literature I've read on the subject state the opposite. Vaporizers remove the carcinogens. Other articles I've read say it doesn't.
It removes a part, maybe the biggest part. So it's definitively less unhealthy, which isn't the same as healthy..
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It removes a part, maybe the biggest part. So it's definitively less unhealthy, which isn't the same as healthy..
You're right.
Tests conducted by Dr Gieringer showed that vapourisers which heat marijuana to 180-190°C vaporised THC below the burning point of cellulose and other plant material also the production of polycyclic hydrocarbons was reduced. The best vaporizer delivered 10 parts of tar to one part of cannabinoids, cannabis cigarettes yielded a ratio of 13:1 (average), and water pipes an average of 27:1.
Thus, the best vaporizers achieved a performance ratio about 25% higher than the unfiltered cannabis cigarette, while water pipes were less favourable than cigarettes. The use of a filter in a cannabis cigarette was not advantageous since it not only filtered the tars, but also the cannabinoids. Indeed, the performance ratio was decreased by about 30% compared to the unfiltered cigarette.
In a new study Gieringer was able to demonstrate that combustion products were substantially reduced by using another vaporizer. The used device produced THC at a temperature of 185°C while completely eliminating benzene, toluene and naphthalene. Significant amounts of benzene began to appear at temperatures of 200°C, while combustion occurred around 230°C or above.
Traces of THC were in evidence as low as 140°C. Carbon monoxide and tars were both qualitatively reduced by the vaporizer, but were not quantificated in this study. However, a significant reduction of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons was assumed since vaporized cannabis emitted a thin gray vapor and the plant material was left with a green to greenish-brown "toasted" appearance, whereas the combusted sample produced thick smoke and turned to ash.
Journal of Cannabis Therapeutics 2001
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How safe is something that inhibits the acetylcholinerasterase? By coincidence, last night I was scanning an agronomic handbook. So you can see this is the way insects get killed and this is considered dangerous for humans too.
I would imagine a product like Huperzine to be fairly safe. Insecticides do work in a similar fashion but in a substantially higher dosage. As I see it, similar effects, one is just much much weaker than the other. I am adding Huperzine to my nootropic stack to essentially prolong the effects of the Lecithin I am taking.
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It removes a part, maybe the biggest part. So it's definitively less unhealthy, which isn't the same as healthy..
Bingo! I like this guy, Dutchguy.
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x2 Nothing like laughing at a frying pan for 40 minutes. ;D
I'm way past that stage, lol
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x2 Nothing like laughing at a frying pan for 40 minutes. ;D
/haven't done it in years
What I remember once: "Hey, that traffic light coming up is red. What do you think, shall we stop or what...Let's see....?"
We were stoned like there was no tomorow that day. Total Jackass imbeciles we were...long time ago.
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falcon
no that's just paint thinner and meth
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What I remember once: "Hey, that traffic light coming up is red. What do you think, shall we stop or what...Let's see....?"
We were stoned like there was no tomorow that day. Total Jackass imbeciles we were...long time ago.
We used to call those 'interstellar stop signs.' Hard to brake for them when traveling at light speed. 8)
/former member of the jackass imbecile club
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I would imagine a product like Huperzine to be fairly safe. Insecticides do work in a similar fashion but in a substantially higher dosage. As I see it, similar effects, one is just much much weaker than the other. I am adding Huperzine to my nootropic stack to essentially prolong the effects of the Lecithin I am taking.
I read one time that Lecithin makes the volume of your "pop" increase...I got some, also because Shawn Ray recommended it on his Final Countdown vid...I shit you not, I came like Peter North...
I was like WTF...
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I read one time that Lecithin makes the volume of your "pop" increase...I got some, also because Shawn Ray recommended it on his Final Countdown vid...I shit you not, I came like Peter North...
I was like WTF...
I am actually experiencing that! TBLOP FTW here folks. Sad but true. Also I seem to be MUCH hornier than usual...
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I am actually experiencing that! TBLOP FTW here folks. Sad but true. Also I seem to be MUCH hornier than usual...
I get that Lecithin 500 from Rite Aide/GNC...I have to research why Lecithin does that---make you produce more...
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There are two main types of weed though, indica and saliva. One makes u retarded and the other makes u the cleverest bastard in the world. Too clever infact
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There are two main types of weed though, indica and saliva. One makes u retarded and the other makes u the cleverest bastard in the world. Too clever infact
Saliva is something else than Salvia, sir Okapi...
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I get that Lecithin 500 from Rite Aide/GNC...I have to research why Lecithin does that---make you produce more...
I have Lecithin by Now, 400mg caps, I take 3 with breakfast. Great stuff!
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Saliva is something else than Salvia, sir Okapi...
Sativa I meant, posting on my iPhone, it writes down things it thinks ur trying to say
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I have a rec for med weed..i take it for for pain management and sleep..different strains do different things..indicas..sativas ..hybrids...sativas for instance have an enegetic effect..causes creativeness among other things like help w depression.
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Weed makes you lazy, hungry and happy. Not smart :D
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Pure afghan pollen is allegedly what to do if you're insistent on smoking. It doesn't make u retarded or sleepy, just makes u 'deeper'
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increases certain types of intelligence while decreasing other types. ability to form new memories and mathematical prowess is decreased, while literary creativity and philosophical mindfulness is increased.
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Why read these studies, smoke some drugs and you will know that none of them make you smarter. Smarter on weed? I've smoked shit that had me lying in bed and watching my eyelids go up and down, totally unable to talk, and then me and my buddy played pingpong and we were playing like fucking chinese olympic champs and sobering up fast, but as soon as we sat down, we went in to no talking mode. No weed makes you smarter, the best it does is make u better at ping pong lol, anyone telling you weed makes you smarter needs to go play some ping pong because it will sober him up and he will realize what a stupid pot head he was.
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Why read these studies, smoke some drugs and you will know that none of them make you smarter. Smarter on weed? I've smoked shit that had me lying in bed and watching my eyelids go up and down, totally unable to talk, and then me and my buddy played pingpong and we were playing like fucking chinese olympic champs and sobering up fast, but as soon as we sat down, we went in to no talking mode. No weed makes you smarter, the best it does is make u better at ping pong lol, anyone telling you weed makes you smarter needs to go play some ping pong because it will sober him up and he will realize what a stupid pot head he was.
Lol I use to get high with all my buddies back in the day and play basketball. I use to feel like Michael Jordan. I had a lot of sweet fakes and moves under the hoop I would pull of some crazy shit sometimes.
I recently started smoking again. The trick is try not to do it everday. Take one good hit and enjoy your day. I love a little bit before a workout. It's really nice after a workout to!
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Haha that's how some insecticides work and you guys complain about chemicals used in crops.
I had a co worker who in the break room let it be known that she only ate "organic" produce; proclaimed to the world; "regular grocery store produce has entirely too much chemical residues for my tastes"...do you know what she was doing while saying this?...smoking a Camel cigarette.
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the main physiological effect of weed is increased heart rate. When I smoke before lifting I get a crazy pump, and a "mind-muscle connection" like kai does!
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I feel like a genius when I'm high. There's nothing I can't know if i'm not looking to know anything. When we start asking questions there's a lack of answers. The same as theres only crime when there are laws. If you just let reality exist as it is, there will be nothing you won't know. Now i'm not saying I should never ask questions, but if you just let your mind exist in the moment there is nothing you need to know. I just exist as a witness of the universe. That's not saying i just sit around and watch nothing happen while thinking nothing, i just remember each moment shall be watched, not thought about. This is whether im sitting doing nothing or working on a project. This helps the memory as there is less to be remembered when you shut the voices off for awhile.