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Obama is out there saying we need to have the GOP and Tea party stop putting "PARTY ABOVE COUNTRY, PUT THE COUNTRY FIRST" with regard to the debt and economy issues.
What does that mean?
Is he saying anyone with a disagreement over these issues is a traitor and not putting the country first?
And you wonder why I detest this communist wretch, leech, parasite, and ghetto thug animal with a passion?
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Yes, they have called the Tea Party terrorists. I need to update the left-wing hate speech thread.
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Has Obama ever put anyone besides himself first? I can't think of an example. He continues to rain unwanted laws and regulations down on us regardless of how many people support it. Hi, Obamacare!
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Obama is out there saying we need to have the GOP and Tea party stop putting "PARTY ABOVE COUNTRY, PUT THE COUNTRY FIRST" with regard to the debt and economy issues.
What does that mean?
Is he saying anyone with a disagreement over these issues is a traitor and not putting the country first?
And you wonder why I detest this communist wretch, leech, parasite, and ghetto thug animal with a passion?
Why does the Tea Party not have a T beside their names? ???
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Has Obama ever put anyone besides himself first? I can't think of an example. He continues to rain unwanted laws and regulations down on us regardless of how many people support it. Hi, Obamacare!
I'm serious- I have heard him now say this at least 5 times over the last week that "The folks in DC need to start putting the country above the party" or something of the like.
Think about that. He is saying that anyone who disagrees with his agenda is a traitor, not that there is any legitimate reason to oppose his agenda in spending like a madman, enacting bizarre regulations, job killing directives, etc.
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I'm serious- I have heard him now say this at least 5 times over the last week that "The folks in DC need to start putting the country above the party" or something of the like.
Think about that. He is saying that anyone who disagrees with his agenda is a traitor, not that there is any legitimate reason to oppose his agenda in spending like a madman, enacting bizarre regulations, job killing directives, etc.
Contrary to what you may believe, Obama is not partisan. The Republicans have been nothing but one big clusterfuck for the past four years, all because of rabid partisanship and as a result, all we have gotten so far is stuck in the mire with garbage plans that "attempt" bipartisanship but are really just recycled old Republican ideas like the Bob Dole/Mitt Romney Healthcare Plan we received and the Bush Tax Cuts.
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Contrary to what you may believe, Obama is not partisan.
In addition to that, he rammed Obamacare through with zero Republican support. He pushed through DADT repeal with a lame duck Congress in a very partisan manner. There is nothing about his administration that shows bipartisanship.
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In addition to that, he rammed Obamacare through with zero Republican support. He pushed through DADT repeal with a lame duck Congress in a very partisan manner. There is nothing about his administration that shows bipartisanship.
Bush Tax Cuts, John Boehner`s 98 percent Debt Ceiling Bill, The Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, The Bob Dole/Mitt Romney Healthcare Plan (obamacare). The list goes on and on.
As Progressives voting for Obama, this is not what we voted for WHATSOEVER.
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youre an idiot if you dont believe obama is partisan, plain and simple
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He was told to say so he complied.
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He accuses everyone else of exactly what he does and than tries to act like he is blameless in all of this.
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Yes, they have called the Tea Party terrorists. I need to update the left-wing hate speech thread.
Then you can update it with all the examples of Obama being called a terrorist, a muslim, a marxist, a communist, someone who wasn't born in the country, etc...
Why give the right wing a pass?
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You forgot incompetent assclown
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Only the untruthful things.
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He is a commie no dout.
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Obama is out there saying we need to have the GOP and Tea party stop putting "PARTY ABOVE COUNTRY, PUT THE COUNTRY FIRST" with regard to the debt and economy issues.
What does that mean?
Is he saying anyone with a disagreement over these issues is a traitor and not putting the country first?
And you wonder why I detest this communist wretch, leech, parasite, and ghetto thug animal with a passion?
wow that sounds like someone on this site
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wow that sounds like someone on this site
No shit!!!! I must have missed that one. Who could it possibly be? ::)
No one could be that way unless they were like a delusional post whoring sociopath or something.
You know how wingnuts are about hypocrisy.... they never know it's there until they find themselves caught in it like a bear trap.
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No shit!!!! I must have missed that one. Who could it possibly be? ::)
No one could be that way unless they were like a delusional post whoring sociopath or something.
You know how wingnuts are about hypocrisy.... they never know it's there until they find themselves caught in it like a bear trap.
Uhhh, disagreeing about policy is one thing, setting a course of intentional collapse for the nation and appointing radical communists and freaks to your admn is a whole other thing fool.
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Delusions abound as much as ever.
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Delusions abound as much as ever.
Agreed - like UE will stay under 8% unless we pass the stim bill, health premiums will go down 3000% if we pass obamacare, etc etc.
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Obammmmmmaa... WWWWWAAAAAAAA!!!! Obammmaaaaaa..... WAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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He accuses everyone else of exactly what he does and than tries to act like he is blameless in all of this.
you're talking about yourself right?
you accuse everyone of being a communist and yet you say your fellow american should not be allowed to vote because they make choices you don't like.
The idea that you think Obama is calling you a traitor is hilarious given that you've called him a traitor, treasonous, etc.... so many times on this board.
Let's be clear, you are not a traitor but you definitely hate your country and most of your fellow Americans
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you're talking about yourself right?
you accuse everyone of being a communist and yet you say your fellow american should not be allowed to vote because they make choices you don't like.
The idea that you think Obama is calling you a traitor is hilarious given that you've called him a traitor, treasonous, etc.... so many times on this board.
Let's be clear, you are not a traitor but you definitely hate your country and most of your fellow Americans
I never denied that I called obama or a traitor or try to be "bi-partisan". Obama is a destructive wrecking ball on this nation.
And right now - sorry - most agree with me that obama is an abject failure and disaster.
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youre an idiot if you dont believe obama is partisan, plain and simple
LOL!!!
Yeah, idiots like TA wants us to believe that barry is not responsible for any of his actions. He was pressured into doing those things. Obama has ALWAYS been a centrist . NEVER EVER did he give any indication that he is a liberal. ::)
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LOL!!!
Yeah, idiots like TA wants us to believe that barry is not responsible for any of his actions. He was pressured into doing those things. Obama has ALWAYS been a centrist . NEVER EVER did he give any indication that he is a liberal. ::)
These morons like straw, lurker, andre, etc, should have gotten a clue with Ayers, Flegar, Wright, Dohrn, Mansour, Rezko, etc.
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Obama is out there saying we need to have the GOP and Tea party stop putting "PARTY ABOVE COUNTRY, PUT THE COUNTRY FIRST" with regard to the debt and economy issues.
What does that mean?
Is he saying anyone with a disagreement over these issues is a traitor and not putting the country first?
And you wonder why I detest this communist wretch, leech, parasite, and ghetto thug animal with a passion?
Traitors of American people.. I would say you are.. Which is why i detest you and your vile subhuman sleezy lowlife tactics. "should we blame obama for the deaths of military men in a helicopter"... like for real....
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I never denied that I called obama or a traitor or try to be "bi-partisan". Obama is a destructive wrecking ball on this nation.
And right now - sorry - most agree with me that obama is an abject failure and disaster.
the voices in your head don't count as actual people
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the voices in your head don't count as actual people
LMAO!
Have you looked at Gallup lately?
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LMAO!
Have you looked at Gallup lately?
bfd - polls change all the time
elections are all that matter
it doesn't change the fact that you hate your country and most of your fellow citizens
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bfd - polls change all the time
elections are all that matter
it doesn't change the fact that you hate your country and most of your fellow citizens
boom
Has zero traits of a true patriot..
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bfd - polls change all the time
elections are all that matter
it doesn't change the fact that you hate your country and most of your fellow citizens
LMAO. Bro - you voted for this shit show - take ownership.
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bfd - polls change all the time
elections are all that matter
it doesn't change the fact that you hate your country and most of your fellow citizens
boom
Has zero traits of a true patriot..
LMAO!!! The post whore gets BBBOOODDDYYYSSSLLLAAAMMM MMMEEEDDD!!!
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LMAO. Bro - you voted for this shit show - take ownership.
I"ve said many times that I'm disappointed with Obama and the Dems caving into the Repubs on stimulus package, Bush tax cuts, unemployment benefits, debt limit, etc... but I'll take their mediocrity over the bat shit loonies on the right who truly do put party before country.
The only goal of the Republican party is to gain back power and they clearly have no problem taking the country hostage (Mitch McConnell has admitted this), acting like terrorists, etc.. to achieve their objective.
Look at the House. The Repubs have been in control since the beginning of the year. Have they proposed any legislation to actually help the country, create jobs, stabilize the credit and RE market????
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Hillary Clinton said dissent is patriotic no?
So fuck off team commie. you idiots voted for this economic tornado aka obama, take ownership.
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I"ve said many times that I'm disappointed with Obama and the Dems caving into the Repubs on stimulus package, Bush tax cuts, unemployment benefits, debt limit, etc... but I'll take their mediocrity over the bat shit loonies on the right who truly do put party before country.
The only goal of the Republican party is to gain back power and they clearly have no problem taking the country hostage (Mitch McConnell has admitted this), acting like terrorists, etc.. to achieve their objective.
Look at the House. The Repubs have been in control since the beginning of the year. Have they proposed any legislation to actually help the country, create jobs, stabilize the credit and RE market????
na.. but they got those tax cuts by holding unemployment benefits hostage.. oh.. Boener got 98% of what he wanted out of the debt deal
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LMAO - as if Obama did not take the nation hostage in how they dealt with ObamaCare and the Stim Bill. LMAO!
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LMAO - as if Obama did not take the nation hostage in how they dealt with ObamaCare and the Stim Bill. LMAO!
but the shit didnt go down.. so what the fuck are you talking about.. and instead of saying "no the repubs didnt do that" you say "but but but obama.."
Weak as fuck.. retire
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but the shit didnt go down.. so what the fuck are you talking about.. and instead of saying "no the repubs didnt do that" you say "but but but obama.."
Weak as fuck.. retire
No, its only now that obama is not getting his way and facing opposition to his radical marxist destructive agenda that we get all the bullshit excuses, blaming others, etc.
Obama and the idiots like yourself who voted for him ignored for two years what people were telling you about his insane agenda and now that opposition is in place to stop it - you morons are crying like babies and blaming those who were sent there to stop him.
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but the shit didnt go down.. so what the fuck are you talking about.. and instead of saying "no the repubs didnt do that" you say "but but but obama.."
Weak as fuck.. retire
Our little bumblefuck really loves to spin it and try to keep it going doesn't he? It is like watching a 11 year old on Ritalin playing pinball.
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LMAO - as if Obama did not take the nation hostage in how they dealt with ObamaCare and the Stim Bill. LMAO!
he did not
care to eloborate on what the hostage threat was exactly in those situations
for example, with the Bush Tax cuts the Repubs threatened to deny extending unemployment benefits, with the deficit threatened to not extedn the debt ceiling
what did Obama allegedly "hostage" with the Stim Bill or the Healthcare legislation
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Our little bumblefuck really loves to spin it and try to keep it going doesn't he? It is like watching a 11 year old on Ritalin playing pinball.
he needs to drop the Ritalin and get back on the Lithium
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he did not
care to eloborate on what the hostage threat was exactly in those situations
for example, with the Bush Tax cuts the Repubs threatened to deny extending unemployment benefits, with the deficit threatened to not extedn the debt ceiling
what did Obama allegedly "hostage" with the Stim Bill or the Healthcare legislation
They kept the entire country hostage!
They spent a year and a half on that crap while the economy was still a mess and used bribery, fraud, lies, deception, and all sorts of bizarre measures to ram that unconstitutional mess through while the needs of the nation fell by the wayside.
Again - we warned you obamabots for 2 years as to what was coming and you just ignored reality. America sent the GOP to DC to stop obama's agenda in its tracks, and now that it is happening, you are still in denial. no one wanted obamacare, cap and trade, card check, etc. Yet, obama and the dems decuided to just push ahead with that crazy shit. No budget, pushing bizaroo world nonsense, and on and on and on, and now you are upset that the GOP did not give obama a blank 2 Trillion dollar check? LMAO!
Straw - after your boyfriend blows out your credit cards and bounces the check book, do you open a new line of credit for him? Yes or no?
I can't wait till next year, 2010 will look like childs play compared to what is going to happen. GOP is going to take back the senate by a large margin, Obama is going to be sent back to Kenya, and this 4 year national nightmare will hopefully be over.
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They kept the entire country hostage!
They spent a year and a half on that crap while the economy was still a mess and used bribery, fraud, lies, deception, and all sorts of bizarre measures to ram that unconstitutional mess through while the needs of the nation fell by the wayside.
Again - we warned you obamabots for 2 years as to what was coming and you just ignored reality. America sent the GOP to DC to stop obama's agenda in its tracks, and now that it is happening, you are still in denial. no one wanted obamacare, cap and trade, card check, etc. Yet, obama and the dems decuided to just push ahead with that crazy shit. No budget, pushing bizaroo world nonsense, and on and on and on, and now you are upset that the GOP did not give obama a blank 2 Trillion dollar check? LMAO!
Straw - after your boyfriend blows out your credit cards and bounces the check book, do you open a new line of credit for him? Yes or no?
I can't wait till next year, 2010 will look like childs play compared to what is going to happen. GOP is going to take back the senate by a large margin, Obama is going to be sent back to Kenya, and this 4 year national nightmare will hopefully be over.
you're an attorney and you don't understand the concept of hostage and ransom?
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you're an attorney and you don't understand the concept of hostage and ransom?
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Yawn - Obama was never held hostage. He placed himself in that situation by his own incompetence, ignorance, ineptness, and economic illiteracy.
He could have cut spending and/or gotten behind cut cap and balance, simpson bowles, or the ryan bill. Remember Straw - he never presented his own plan and bullshited his way along. The Senate Dems never passed a budget either, so it is all on obama for being in that predicament.
Again - stop trying to blame others for obama's malfeasance in office.
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Yawn - Obama was never held hostage. He placed himself in that situation by his own incompetence, ignorance, ineptness, and economic illiteracy.
He could have cut spending and/or gotten behind cut cap and balance, simpson bowles, or the ryan bill. Remember Straw - he never presented his own plan and bullshited his way along. The Senate Dems never passed a budget either, so it is all on obama for being in that predicament.
Again - stop trying to blame others for obama's malfeasance in office.
Jesus Christ you're dumb
first you claimed Obama was a hostage taker and now you say he was never held hostage but place himself as a hostage
you really don't even understand those the simple concept of hostage and ranson do you?
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Jesus Christ you're dumb
first you claimed Obama was a hostage taker and now you say he was never held hostage but place himself as a hostage
you really don't even understand those the simple concept of hostage and ranson do you?
Yes, I do, I was responding to the claim that the GOP held obama hostage in the debt negotiation. That is pure bullshit and more lame excuses for obama.
My use of the term in regard to obama holding the nation hostage was not in a strict legal definition, geez dude.
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No, its only now that obama is not getting his way and facing opposition to his radical marxist destructive agenda that we get all the bullshit excuses, blaming others, etc.
Obama and the idiots like yourself who voted for him ignored for two years what people were telling you about his insane agenda and now that opposition is in place to stop it - you morons are crying like babies and blaming those who were sent there to stop him.
that little rant meant absolutely nothing. There was nothing radical about what obama did.. Tax cuts that a republican put in place. .Check, cut hella programs Check, keep wars going that a republican started, check. Be beholden to banks as a republican did Check. Water down healthcare bill when you didnt have to, only to please republicans, check. Keep Gitmo open, check. Stop me when i get to the radical stuff...
You vessel for foxnews loudmouths
Flawless Victory
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that little rant meant absolutely nothing. There was nothing radical about what obama did.. Tax cuts that a republican put in place. .Check, cut hella programs Check, keep wars going that a republican started, check. Be beholden to banks as a republican did Check. Water down healthcare bill when you didnt have to, only to please republicans, check. Keep Gitmo open, check. Stop me when i get to the radical stuff...
You vessel for foxnews loudmouths
Flawless Victory
LMAO!
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LMAO!
The last time i got "LMAO" from you. There was no rebuttal ..just a simple "Lmao". Cmon man.. atleast make this fun.. If not im gonna go back to watching Lisa Ann... youre stupidity is boring me
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The last time i got "LMAO" from you. There was no rebuttal ..just a simple "Lmao". Cmon man.. atleast make this fun.. If not im gonna go back to watching Lisa Ann... youre stupidity is boring me
My LMAO is at the fact that you dont think anything obama has done is radical and that he has been to bi partisan or giving into the GOP.
The level of detachment you clowns who live in Cali have from reality is staggering.
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My LMAO is at the fact that you dont think anything obama has done is radical and that he has been to bi partisan or giving into the GOP.
The level of detachment you clowns who live in Cali have from reality is staggering.
Ok.. so instead of calling me detached blah blah.. Dispute something
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Ok.. so instead of calling me detached blah blah.. Dispute something
Dispute what? You picked a few items but ignor the absolute mountain of damaging and destructive things obama has done that has been pointed out to you time and time and time again.
Again - take off the wack shades for once and get a clue.
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Ok.. so instead of calling me detached blah blah.. Dispute something
33 is way stronger at insulting, then by countering arguments.
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Then you can update it with all the examples of Obama being called a terrorist, a muslim, a marxist, a communist, someone who wasn't born in the country, etc...
Why give the right wing a pass?
Not giving anyone a pass. I know it happens in both parties. The purpose of the thread is to highlight liberal hypocrisy when it comes to "tolerance."
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33 is way stronger at insulting, then by countering arguments.
What is there to dispute? Mal cherry picked a few items he thinks obama did not go further on the crazy on, and still ignores the absolute mountain of horrible shit obama has done.
Fuck, I have a thread with 900 articles detailing exactly what obama has done to this nation, and it is not at all coincidental that things are getting worse and worse.
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Dispute what? You picked a few items but ignor the absolute mountain of damaging and destructive things obama has done that has been pointed out to you time and time and time again.
Again - take off the wack shades for once and get a clue.
Those were the biggest issues right?
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Those were the biggest issues right?
Its everythong combined.
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Its everythong combined.
ok i run down the biggest issues and show how he wasnt liberal at all and he was very republican
and you counter with
everythOng combined.. ok...i done wid dis guy
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Those were the biggest issues right?
MObama wore a red dress when China visited. I think it's concerning.
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333 - getting his ovaries raked over the coals AGAIN!!!!
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333 - getting his ovaries raked over the coals AGAIN!!!!
Yeah - as the market tanks, UE getting worse, food stamps exploding, obama record low approvals, etc.
Yeah, got it.
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(http://t.qkme.me/5ugy.jpg)
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(http://t.qkme.me/5ugy.jpg)
SPOT ON!!!!!!!!!
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SPOT ON!!!!!!!!!
Really?
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lmao - so fucking pathetic its sad.
Obama is tailor made for the morons who voted for him. You idiots deserve each other.
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Really?
fuck yeah.. he aint no dem.. he is a biznich
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fuck yeah.. he aint no dem.. he is a biznich
Obama?
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Obama?
Si..
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fuck yeah.. he aint no dem.. he is a biznich
LMFAO!
Ha ha ha ha -as if the first two years of this disastrous Admn where he had huge majorities did not happen.
Priceless.
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Si..
Obama is the quintessential politician, and that is why we are in the mess we are. We vote to elect leaders, we get politicians
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Obama is the quintessential politician, and that is why we are in the mess we are. We vote to elect leaders, we get politicians
Truth. He is an empty suit.
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Obama is the quintessential politician, and that is why we are in the mess we are. We vote to elect leaders, we get politicians
If that were the case they would have voted for Hillary.
Instead - they voted for the Messiah and Healer of All. They voted for bullshit and pipe dreams. Drinking w Bob nails it again on Obama voters. They are mostly morons and idiots who voted solely on race, emotion, and utter bullshit.
This is Bob's best clip ever and nails obama voters to a tee.
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hhhmmmm . . . . Kraut seems to have the same feelings I do.
Fuck Obama and those who voted for him. You dirtbags deserve each other.
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Bad luck? Bad faith?
By Charles Krauthammer, Published: August 18
“We had reversed the recession, avoided a depression, got the economy moving again. . . . But over the last six months, we’ve had a run of bad luck.”
— President Obama,
Decorah, Iowa, Aug. 15
A troubled nation wonders: How did we get mired in 9.1 percent unemployment, 0.9 percent growth and an economic outlook so bad that the Federal Reserve pledges to keep interest rates at zero through mid-2013 — an admission that it sees little hope on the horizon?
Bad luck, explains our president. Out of nowhere came Japan and its supply-chain disruptions, Europe and its debt problems, the Arab Spring and those oil spikes. Kicked off, presumably, by various acts of God (should He not be held accountable too?): earthquake and tsunami. (Tomorrow: pestilence and famine. Maybe frogs.)
Well, yes, but what leader is not subject to external events? Were the minor disruptions of the current Arab Spring remotely as damaging as the Arab oil embargo of 1973-74? Were the supply disruptions of Japan 2011 anything like the Asian financial collapse of 1997-98? Events happen. Leaders are elected to lead (from the front, incidentally). That means dealing with events, not plaintively claiming to be their victim.
Moreover, luck is the residue of design, as Branch Rickey immortally observed. And Obama’s design for the economy was a near-$1 trillion stimulus that left not a trace, the heavy hand of Obamacare and a flurry of regulatory zeal that seeks to stifle everything from domestic energy production to Boeing’s manufacturing expansion into South Carolina.
He sowed, he reaps.
In Obama’s recounting, however, luck is only half the story. His economic recovery was ruined not just by acts of God and (foreign) men, but by Americans who care nothing for their country. These people, who inhabit Congress (guess which party?), refuse to set aside “politics” for the good of the nation. They serve special interests and lobbyists, care only about the next election, place party ahead of country. Indeed, they “would rather see their opponents lose than see America win.” The blaggards!
For weeks, these calumnies have been Obama staples. Calumnies, because they give not an iota of credit to the opposition for trying to promote the public good, as presumably Obama does, but from different premises and principles. Calumnies, because they deny the legitimacy to those on the other side of the great national debate about the size and scope and reach of government.
Charging one’s opponents with bad faith is the ultimate political ad hominem. It obviates argument, fact, logic, history. Conservatives resist Obama’s social-democratic, avowedly transformational agenda not just on principle but on empirical grounds, as well — the economic and moral unraveling of Europe’s social-democratic experiment, on display today from Athens to the streets of London.
Obama’s answer? He doesn’t even engage. That’s the point of these ugly accusations of bad faith. They are the equivalent of branding Republicans enemies of the people. Gov. Rick Perry has been rightly chided for throwing around the word “treasonous” in reference to the Fed. Obama gets a pass for doing the same, only slightly more artfully, regarding Republicans. After all, he is accusing them of wishing to see America fail for their own political gain. What is that if not a charge of betraying one’s country?
The charge is not just ugly. It’s laughable. All but five Republican members of the House — moderate, establishment, Tea Party, freshmen alike — voted for a budget containing radical Medicare reform knowing it could very well end many of their careers. Democrats launched gleefully into Mediscare attacks, hardly believing their luck that Republicans should have proposed something so politically risky in pursuit of fiscal solvency. Yet Obama accuses Republicans of acting for nothing but partisan advantage.
This from a man who has cagily refused to propose a single structural reform to entitlements in his three years in office. A man who ordered that the Afghan surge be unwound by September 2012, a date that makes no military sense (it occurs during the fighting season), a date not recommended by his commanders, a date whose sole purpose is to give Obama political relief on the eve of the 2012 election. And Obama dares accuse others of placing politics above country?
A plague of bad luck and bad faith — a recalcitrant providence and an unpatriotic opposition. Our president wrestles with angels. Monsters of mythic proportions.
A comforting fantasy. But a sorry excuse for a failing economy and a flailing presidency.
letters@charleskrauthammer.com
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bad-luck-bad-faith/2011/08/18/gIQAD2IWOJ_print.html
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hhhmmmm . . . . Kraut seems to have the same feelings I do.
Fuck Obama and those who voted for him. You dirtbags deserve each other.
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Bad luck? Bad faith?
By Charles Krauthammer, Published: August 18
“We had reversed the recession, avoided a depression, got the economy moving again. . . . But over the last six months, we’ve had a run of bad luck.”
— President Obama,
Decorah, Iowa, Aug. 15
A troubled nation wonders: How did we get mired in 9.1 percent unemployment, 0.9 percent growth and an economic outlook so bad that the Federal Reserve pledges to keep interest rates at zero through mid-2013 — an admission that it sees little hope on the horizon?
Bad luck, explains our president. Out of nowhere came Japan and its supply-chain disruptions, Europe and its debt problems, the Arab Spring and those oil spikes. Kicked off, presumably, by various acts of God (should He not be held accountable too?): earthquake and tsunami. (Tomorrow: pestilence and famine. Maybe frogs.)
Well, yes, but what leader is not subject to external events? Were the minor disruptions of the current Arab Spring remotely as damaging as the Arab oil embargo of 1973-74? Were the supply disruptions of Japan 2011 anything like the Asian financial collapse of 1997-98? Events happen. Leaders are elected to lead (from the front, incidentally). That means dealing with events, not plaintively claiming to be their victim.
Moreover, luck is the residue of design, as Branch Rickey immortally observed. And Obama’s design for the economy was a near-$1 trillion stimulus that left not a trace, the heavy hand of Obamacare and a flurry of regulatory zeal that seeks to stifle everything from domestic energy production to Boeing’s manufacturing expansion into South Carolina.
He sowed, he reaps.
In Obama’s recounting, however, luck is only half the story. His economic recovery was ruined not just by acts of God and (foreign) men, but by Americans who care nothing for their country. These people, who inhabit Congress (guess which party?), refuse to set aside “politics” for the good of the nation. They serve special interests and lobbyists, care only about the next election, place party ahead of country. Indeed, they “would rather see their opponents lose than see America win.” The blaggards!
For weeks, these calumnies have been Obama staples. Calumnies, because they give not an iota of credit to the opposition for trying to promote the public good, as presumably Obama does, but from different premises and principles. Calumnies, because they deny the legitimacy to those on the other side of the great national debate about the size and scope and reach of government.
Charging one’s opponents with bad faith is the ultimate political ad hominem. It obviates argument, fact, logic, history. Conservatives resist Obama’s social-democratic, avowedly transformational agenda not just on principle but on empirical grounds, as well — the economic and moral unraveling of Europe’s social-democratic experiment, on display today from Athens to the streets of London.
Obama’s answer? He doesn’t even engage. That’s the point of these ugly accusations of bad faith. They are the equivalent of branding Republicans enemies of the people. Gov. Rick Perry has been rightly chided for throwing around the word “treasonous” in reference to the Fed. Obama gets a pass for doing the same, only slightly more artfully, regarding Republicans. After all, he is accusing them of wishing to see America fail for their own political gain. What is that if not a charge of betraying one’s country?
The charge is not just ugly. It’s laughable. All but five Republican members of the House — moderate, establishment, Tea Party, freshmen alike — voted for a budget containing radical Medicare reform knowing it could very well end many of their careers. Democrats launched gleefully into Mediscare attacks, hardly believing their luck that Republicans should have proposed something so politically risky in pursuit of fiscal solvency. Yet Obama accuses Republicans of acting for nothing but partisan advantage.
This from a man who has cagily refused to propose a single structural reform to entitlements in his three years in office. A man who ordered that the Afghan surge be unwound by September 2012, a date that makes no military sense (it occurs during the fighting season), a date not recommended by his commanders, a date whose sole purpose is to give Obama political relief on the eve of the 2012 election. And Obama dares accuse others of placing politics above country?
A plague of bad luck and bad faith — a recalcitrant providence and an unpatriotic opposition. Our president wrestles with angels. Monsters of mythic proportions.
A comforting fantasy. But a sorry excuse for a failing economy and a flailing presidency.
letters@charleskrauthammer.com
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bad-luck-bad-faith/2011/08/18/gIQAD2IWOJ_print.html
lol.. you fuckin tard... you still playin this game.. hahahahaha clueless..
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Kraut has a little more on the ball than you do.
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Run time: 04:01
The idiot did it again!
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Kraut has a little more on the ball than you do.
the guy isn't that smart ::)
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the guy isn't that smart ::)
Why?
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dove straight down and hit his head on the bottom of the pool
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Run time: 04:01
The idiot did it again!
that was great but why do I have the desire to see his face punched after watching that? don't answer, you already have.
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I wonder if he considered senate demos traitors who voted down his budget 97-0 and refused to pass cap n trade.
What a disgusting animal Obama is. One and done.
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Obama’s “Country Before Party” Nonsense
Commentary ^ | 09.05.2011 | John Podhoretz
Posted on September 5, 2011 8:58:09 PM EDT by Qbert
News reports suggest that on Thursday night, the president will tell Republicans in the House and Senate that they should put “country before party” and endorse his proposals for job creation. The “country before party” line has become Obama’s new theme in the wake of the debt crisis, and the passion with which he invokes it indicates it’s something he actually and truly believes in.
And it’s utter nonsense. Offensive nonsense too. Obama isn’t truly asking Republicans to put country before party. He is asking them to elevate the interests and ideas of the Democratic party higher than their own ideas, their sense of what is best for the nation, and their deeply held convictions about the moral hazard posed by a too-large government and a populace too reliant on it. They won’t do it, and they shouldn’t, and the next time liberals complain that conservatives unfairly impugn their patriotism, Obama’s effort to do just that with his loyal ideological opposition should be thrown in their face.
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He is such an egotistical fuck head. After that Labor Day speech in Michigan in which he trash talked Republicans, he expects them to work with him for his speech? I think Republicans should boycott his joint session of Congress. 12:40 in the clip below.
Dude, half that crowd is black!!! Is Benny somewhere in there?
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Even mika b on morning joe was sick and tired of this crap.
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Even mika b on morning joe was sick and tired of this crap.
LOL @ you watching Morning joe!
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LOL @ you watching Morning joe!
When I get up I turn on that mess for a few minutes just to see how the leftists are deluding themselves each day.
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When I get up I turn on that mess for a few minutes just to see how the leftists are deluding themselves each day.
Is Pat Buchanan a leftist, 333386?
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Is Pat Buchanan a leftist, 333386?
PB is a token guest. Its always 4/5 are liberal dopes like John Heilman, Eugene Robinson, Rattner, Tina Brown, etc.
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Obama warns GOP in advance of jobs speech
Los Angeles Times ^ | September 5, 2011 | Christi Parsons
President Obama sent a warning shot across the bow of congressional Republicans in his Labor Day speech in Detroit this afternoon, pledging to hold them accountable publicly if they fail to support the job-creation plan he puts forth later this week.
The proposal he’ll outline in his address to Congress on Thursday is filled with “bipartisan ideas,” Obama said, and Republicans can either get on board or explain their refusal to the American people.
“I’m going to propose ways to put people to work [that] both parties can agree to,” Obama said. “We’re going to see if congressional Republicans will put country before politics.”
Obama held back specifics of his plan as he addressed the crowd of union activists, many of whom want to see him propose a bold spending plan that would create jobs and spur the economy. The Democratic president suggested he will call for road and bridge construction, but he did not hint at its scope or cost.
Despite the lack of specifics, however, the union crowd interrupted Obama’s remarks several times with chants of “four more years!”
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
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So unless we go along with more failed stim bills and ponzinomics we are traitors?
Screw this kenyan poverty pimping flash mobster looting thugging mugabe wannabe.
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333 - you're not a traitor
you just hate your country and the majority of your fellow citizens