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I realise that that dose is nothing for building muscle but as a mood and energy pick-me-up, would anyone recommend it?
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I heard it makes you do bigger poo's.
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If your natty levels are at the low end of normal than yes.
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If your natty levels are at the low end of normal than yes.
I mean, even if they are normal, would one 'feel better'? you know, have more bounce in your step and feel more positive?
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I think the answer could be yes..
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I think the answer could be yes..
Then, something to consider in these next few years of old age...
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Then, something to consider in these next few years of old age...
You're still a young guy, not?
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You're still a young guy, not?
Biologically speaking, no. I am 34. Optimal hormone production ceases after 25 as you well know.
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I think the answer could be yes..
Too bad our country is not so liberal on this field. In the U.S. it's pretty easy to get HRT or TRT, even below 40.
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Too bad our country is not so liberal on this field. In the U.S. it's pretty easy to get HRT or TRT, even below 40.
Once I settle into a job and a place I will consider it....
What country do you speak of?
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I think the body normally produces around 50mg per week. So 200mg would be quite a difference
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Once I settle into a job and a place I will consider it....
What country do you speak of?
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...but the rest of Europe has prob the same policy
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This is how it should be, and was during the Golden Century..
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This is how it should be, and was during the Golden Century..
Hi Geert
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Hi Geert
Geert himself is not that bad, but I hate all those secondhandcardealers, bouncers and parttime criminal PVV parliament members, especially Hero Brinkman, that nitwit boozer and of course the mailboxpisser, Erik Lucassen. Creepy man.
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I realise that that dose is nothing for building muscle
If you are natural, or rather natural with extremely low levels as your posts indicate, 200mg will build a lot of muscle. A true HRT replacement dose is usually around 100mg/week. You can build a decent physique (not big) on 200mg test.
And yes, you will feel a lot better, improve libido, etc.
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If your natty levels are at the low end of normal than yes.
What he said ^^^^
I would add that past 35 is the time when you need to look at it, I never come off.
I will drop down to x1 Enanthate a week (Testoviron) as my test levels are NEVER going to go about the shit end on nm/dl. I consider this a rest period, & then back up to cycle levels.....
Like they say "avoid hang-overs, stay drunk" ;)
PT
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I think the body normally produces around 50mg per week. So 200mg would be quite a difference
This.
It would still produce significant muscle and strength gains.
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I think the body normally produces around 50mg per week. So 200mg would be quite a difference
Oh yeah, at what age is this a given then, 50mg a week??
Good job you used the word "think" in that context.
::)
PT
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I realise that that dose is nothing for building muscle but as a mood and energy pick-me-up, would anyone recommend it?
dont listen to the dicks here, you would be surprised what 200mg per week can do (with proper food)
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Anglers fishing off west pier, South Beach, Blyth, Northumbria were horrified to watch a man slice off strips of his own face and use them as fishing bait. A local angler said “This guy turns up and realises he’s forgot his fishing bait. Next thing you know he pulls out a knife and cuts off a small stip of skin, puts it on his hook and casts out. He didn’t seem to be in any pain so we assumed he must be on something and decided to leave him alone”.One angler who was brave enough to approach the man told us “He told me he got the idea from the old practise of using bacon rind for fishing bait. Within 10 minutes of his first cast he hauled up a 1lb whiting, several others followed including a 7lb cod. It was amazing nobody else was catching anything yet he was pulling them out like there was no tomorrow”. Sadly for the unnamed angler there was no tomorrow as he passed out and died though loss of blood.
Blyth has long suffered from its drug problem and the council is worried that copycat drug addicts will follow. The use of human flesh has since been banned from local fishing competitions for legal reasons.
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that's not hans and frans! ;D
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I realise that that dose is nothing for building muscle but as a mood and energy pick-me-up, would anyone recommend it?
I used 250 a week at one point, the first time using. It'll build ya.
Energy: Yes, no question. But my job is physical so the question of types of fatigue, etc. Also, Night Guy always screws over Morning Guy. I just need to sleep more and stress less.
Mood: Some good, some bad for me. Not a depression cure but certainly a distraction. Motivation and rage were up. Guess it depends on how you define joie de vivre. I wouldn't call it happy juice by any means but proponents would say it just magnified the asshole I already am. In testerona veritas.
Recommend it: Not in my experience. Contrary to most heroic internet reports, my sex drive was down without hcg (which is great stuff imo), which I really didn't dig. I had bad headaches while lifting - enough to make me worry about something going pop up there. I was quicker to anger and make decisions (not necessarily stupid ones, but still didn't like being out of character) - overall more emotional and less rational. Coming off was really rough. I had some relationship shit going on too but the drugs/lack of drugs made it harder for sure. It was definitely more of an emotional roller coaster than a psych panacea. I'll probably take other roads for hrt or physique drugs if I ever decide to go for either.
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You may as well do your steroids to improve the quality of your life, because voting for Ron Paul surely won`t.
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You may as well do your steroids to improve the quality of your life, because voting for Ron Paul surely won`t.
Why Adam, that was...almost...funny.
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Anglers fishing off west pier, South Beach, Blyth, Northumbria were horrified to watch a man slice off strips of his own face and use them as fishing bait. A local angler said “This guy turns up and realises he’s forgot his fishing bait. Next thing you know he pulls out a knife and cuts off a small stip of skin, puts it on his hook and casts out. He didn’t seem to be in any pain so we assumed he must be on something and decided to leave him alone”.One angler who was brave enough to approach the man told us “He told me he got the idea from the old practise of using bacon rind for fishing bait. Within 10 minutes of his first cast he hauled up a 1lb whiting, several others followed including a 7lb cod. It was amazing nobody else was catching anything yet he was pulling them out like there was no tomorrow”. Sadly for the unnamed angler there was no tomorrow as he passed out and died though loss of blood.
Blyth has long suffered from its drug problem and the council is worried that copycat drug addicts will follow. The use of human flesh has since been banned from local fishing competitions for legal reasons.
I suddenly feel the urge to order pizza..
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not 200mg, but 400mg-500mg is perfect for this. When it comes to finding a wifey, 400mg testo is the sweetspot for whores to thinking you are a contruction worker with wide shoulders and a thick forearms.
. now.. you still wont look like you workout at that shit dose:D but your wife will think you eat lots of steak and potatoes and you will feel on top of the world in terms of mood.
as of 8/20/2011 I no longer call 500mg testo crusing ..it is now to be called the "handy man who fucks your wife"
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He didn’t seem to be in any pain so we assumed he must be on something and decided to leave him alone.
"We didn't give a shit if he died or not. We found it amusing because empathy is for commies and fags. Nothin' like kickin' back with a few brewskis and bein' dead inside while watchin a guy remove his own face while doin' nothin' 'bout it."
I'd like to get my hands on these people.
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"We didn't give a shit if he died or not. We found it amusing because empathy is for commies and fags. Nothin' like kickin' back with a few brewskis and bein' dead inside while watchin a guy remove his own face while doin' nothin' 'bout it."
I'd like to get my hands on these people.
Heat is a GREAT film. ;)
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Heat is a GREAT film. ;)
I feel like DeNiro. I wish I could feel like Kilmer.
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I realise that that dose is nothing for building muscle but as a mood and energy pick-me-up, would anyone recommend it?
Deine Probleme sitzen tiefer, da wird auch Medikamentenmissbrauch nichts daran ändern, damit packst du das Problem nicht an der Wurzel.
Du musst erstmal dein Leben grundlegend in den Griff bekommen bevor du mit solchen Gedanken spielst.
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. now.. you still wont look like you workout at that shit dose:D
Maybe you don't. ;)
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Deine Probleme sitzen tiefer, da wird auch Medikamentenmissbrauch nichts daran ändern, damit packst du das Problem nicht an der Wurzel.
Du musst erstmal dein Leben grundlegend in den Griff bekommen bevor du mit solchen Gedanken spielst.
I agree, which is why I plan (if at all) on doing erst in ein paar Jahren but I do appreciate the concern. You are a true getbig brother. :)
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Maybe you don't. ;)
true at that dosage I indeed look like a swimmer >:( but I respond to gh better than anyone I know :D so its not all that bad
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I agree, which is why I plan (if at all) on doing erst in ein paar Jahren but I do appreciate the concern. You are a true getbig brother. :)
U got a job already? What happened to that San Diego thing?
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If quality of life is having your body to be physically dependent on a government and drugs to function correctly, by knocking out your natural functions, go ahead.
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U got a job already? What happened to that San Diego thing?
Not San Diego but my interview for Cologne is on Tuesday, hope it works out; the company seems cool and laid back and my interview is actually taking place in the Tate Modern, which would imply coolness on the part of the guy interviewing me.
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Geert himself is not that bad, but I hate all those secondhandcardealers, bouncers and parttime criminal PVV parliament members, especially Hero Brinkman, that nitwit boozer and of course the mailboxpisser, Erik Lucassen. Creepy man.
Though I don't believe in "good" or "bad" people (I would only classify certain ideas or actions like that), they are all creepy in the way they talk and act. IMO PVV'ers, Wilders included, are twisters (yes, I've learned that word here on GB ;) ) and manipulators. You may call me almost an anti-nationalist; I was born in the Netherlands and that's it.
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I realise that that dose is nothing for building muscle but as a mood and energy pick-me-up, would anyone recommend it?
Not true...Who ever came up with this idea that unless your using at least 500mg a week of test your not gonna see anything is absolutely RETARDED !! Anything is gonna be better than nothing, imagine this you have nothing in your system and then you starting injecting 250-300mg a week of testosterone you think nothing is gonna happen ?? lol
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Not true...Who ever came up with this idea that unless your using at least 500mg a week of test your not gonna see anything is absolutely RETARDED !! Anything is gonna be better than nothing, imagine this you have nothing in your system and then you starting injecting 250-300mg a week of testosterone you think nothing is gonna happen ?? lol
Exactly. Especially if Prop or Suspension. Geez.....
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Though I don't believe in "good" or "bad" people (I would only classify certain ideas or actions like that), they are all creepy in the way they talk and act. IMO PVV'ers, Wilders included, are twisters (yes, I've learned that word here on GB ;) ) and manipulators. You may call me almost an anti-nationalist; I was born in the Netherlands and that's it.
I feel the same way; we cannot choose where we are born...
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Seems to me the most intelligent thing to do would be to go to your doctor, tell him that your energy levels and sex drive are low, and then ask for complete lab.
If all you are going to ad is 200mg., you might be going backwards. If at this time you are "naturally" making 400 ng. per dl., you would shut down your own testosterone manufacturing system, and your body would adjust to a lesser amount of exogenous.
Bad move.
You might possibly be making much more than 200 ng per dl a week.
In essence, you would need 500 to 750 mg to get that "pep" you are looking for, and then you will stay "on" forever.
Do your research. This sounds like something a teenager would do just b/c it's "steroids" ~ without realizing the science behind it.
Not to mention the unnecessary loss of cash.
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Seems to me the most intelligent thing to do would be to go to your doctor, tell him that your energy levels and sex drive are low, and then ask for complete lab.
If all you are going to ad is 200mg., you might be going backwards. If at this time you are "naturally" making 400 ng. per dl., you would shut down your own testosterone manufacturing system, and your body would adjust to a lesser amount of exogenous.
Bad move.
You might possibly be making much more than 200 ng per dl a week.
In essence, you would need 500 to 750 mg to get that "pep" you are looking for, and then you will stay "on" forever.
Do your research. This sounds like something a teenager would do just b/c it's "steroids" ~ without realizing the science behind it.
Not to mention the unnecessary loss of cash.
nobody makes enough natty test to compare to 200mg per week. maybe a teen with great genetics comes close, but that amount puts you in the very high end range of where your levels should be. true hrt is like 100-150mg per week i think? plus, your body responds to the amount of androgens you put in. if you didnt put in more than what you already have you wont be getting completely shut down, youll still produce enough to make up the gap.
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not 200mg, but 400mg-500mg is perfect for this. When it comes to finding a wifey, 400mg testo is the sweetspot for whores to thinking you are a contruction worker with wide shoulders and a thick forearms.
. now.. you still wont look like you workout at that shit dose:D but your wife will think you eat lots of steak and potatoes and you will feel on top of the world in terms of mood.
as of 8/20/2011 I no longer call 500mg testo crusing ..it is now to be called the "handy man who fucks your wife"
Ridiculous, to maintain a good quality of life (depending on age) 200mg every OTHER week is plenty.
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I feel the same way; we cannot choose where we are born...
Yes, so why should we think something like: "our" culture is better than "that" culture? When you study a random culture (history, social behaviour, laws, etc..) you will always find "good" and "bad" aspects.
Regarding your avatar, liberalism is an interesting way of thinking, regarding individual and collective freedom. I don't know much about it's philosophy yet, a good reason to dig in.
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Yes, so why should we think something like: "our" culture is better than "that" culture? When you study a random culture (history, social behaviour, laws, etc..) you will always find "good" and "bad" aspects.
Regarding your avatar, liberalism is an interesting way of thinking, regarding individual and collective freedom. I don't know much about it's philosophy yet, a good reason to dig in.
Classical liberalism that is... ;D
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nobody makes enough natty test to compare to 200mg per week. maybe a teen with great genetics comes close, but that amount puts you in the very high end range of where your levels should be. true hrt is like 100-150mg per week i think? plus, your body responds to the amount of androgens you put in. if you didnt put in more than what you already have you wont be getting completely shut down, youll still produce enough to make up the gap.
Tbombz, are you serious? I have lab done every 3 months (for other reasons) ~ I am gonna be 49 this year. My test levels are at 500 nanograms per decilitre.
If I was to start inj. 200 mg of exogenous test, my hypothalmus would shut down (eventually) and be reliant on the 200 mg.
Are you saying that exogenous/synthetic test is more powerful than what a human makes? I mean, it has carboxylic acid (esther for time release) and benzo alcohol for purity sake... basically, it's diluted.
I mean correct me if I'm wrong. What do you know that I don't on this matter?
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Tbombz, are you serious? I have lab done every 3 months (for other reasons) ~ I am gonna be 49 this year. My test levels are at 500 nanograms per decilitre.
If I was to start inj. 200 mg of exogenous test, my hypothalmus would shut down (eventually) and be reliant on the 200 mg.
Are you saying that exogenous/synthetic test is more powerful than what a human makes? I mean, it has carboxylic acid (esther for time release) and benzo alcohol for purity sake... basically, it's diluted.
I mean correct me if I'm wrong. What do you know that I don't on this matter?
i think your equating ng per decileter with mg per ml... which is wrong. a single shot of 250mg test per week usually puts most guys at about 1000ng/decileter. if you have 500ng naturally thats pretty damn good but its about half of what youd have on hrt.
thats a conservative estimate though as some guys have said that one hr of 200mg per week their levels are about 2000ng/dl..
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200mg every other is plenty.
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i think your equating ng per decileter with mg per ml... which is wrong. a single shot of 250mg test per week usually puts most guys at about 800-1000ng/decileter. if you have 500ng naturally thats pretty damn good but its about half of what youd have on hrt.
Just 100mg might put one at 800-1000ng or even more when it peaks.
That retard Palumbo is one example of a guy who says 200mg is equivalent to natural production. ::)
My brother did just 5 or 6 amps of test recently, one per week, and decided to stop due to sides. Heavy edema in ankles, watch didn't fit, scale moved up 10lbs almost immediately. He is also over 30 years old. Hardly equal to normal production.
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Ridiculous, to maintain a good quality of life (depending on age) 200mg every OTHER week is plenty.
listen here motherfuck, do not come and tell me about your fake trt from that stupid clinic you bend over for from Big Dick Bob. Trust me I know american market better than you and physicians are allowed to prescribe up to 600mg week without breaking the law. Not this 150mg shit you hear. Now 200mg every other week in the asscheek will have you feeling like shit by day 10. I know causse I put 60 year old father on it year ago and made him get scryp! Moment he talk to doctor and he go to 200mg weekly he is back! 200mg every week is very very good dose for 50 year old who's biggest task is going to farmers market on Sunday morning and getting newspaper. But that does not change the fact that without 500mg a little dwarfe like you would not be able to bench 225, even with those shorts arrms you leprichaun.
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i think your equating ng per decileter with mg per ml... which is wrong. a single shot of 250mg test per week usually puts most guys at about 1000ng/decileter. if you have 500ng naturally thats pretty damn good but its about half of what youd have on hrt.
thats a conservative estimate though as some guys have said that one hr of 200mg per week their levels are about 2000ng/dl..
depends on how you metabolize ester. Last time I called father back home he was on 200mg a week and his levels were around 800ng/dl and feels great with no sides but that puts alot of guys at 1500ng/dl and I dont think there is fake Watson in American pharmacies lol.
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depends on how you metabolize ester. Last time I called father back home he was on 200mg a week and his levels were around 800ng/dl and feels great with no sides but that puts alot of guys at 1500ng/dl and I dont think there is fake Watson in American pharmacies lol.
Depends on when you get tested relative to the shot too. Peak is at about day 2 IIRC.
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not 200mg, but 400mg-500mg is perfect for this. When it comes to finding a wifey, 400mg testo is the sweetspot for whores to thinking you are a contruction worker with wide shoulders and a thick forearms.
. now.. you still wont look like you workout at that shit dose:D but your wife will think you eat lots of steak and potatoes and you will feel on top of the world in terms of mood.
as of 8/20/2011 I no longer call 500mg testo crusing ..it is now to be called the "handy man who fucks your wife"
WRONG. I TAKE LESS AND AM LIVING PROOF 250-37MG OF TOP QUALITY HUMAN GRADE TEST CAN BUILD GOOD MUSCLE.
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Depends on when you get tested relative to the shot too. Peak is at about day 2 IIRC.
Yeah true, also what I find funny is these docs putting these guys on 400mg once a month lol
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I didn't say I took 200mg everyother week did I? I said that 200mg every other week is plenty to maintain an and in most cases improve quality of life. I personally take 150mg per week. Now just on a side note....the only doctor that should be prescribing ANY homone is an endocrinologist.....not a GP, not a chrio. No one BUT an endocrinologist. You sir (or child) are an idiot.
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I didn't say I took 200mg everyother week did I? I said that 200mg every other week is plenty to maintain an and in most cases improve quality of life. I personally take 150mg per week. Now just on a side note....the only doctor that should be prescribing ANY homone is an endocrinologist.....not a GP, not a chrio. No one BUT an endocrinologist. You sir (or child) are an idiot.
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Seems to me the most intelligent thing to do would be to go to your doctor, tell him that your energy levels and sex drive are low, and then ask for complete lab.
If all you are going to ad is 200mg., you might be going backwards. If at this time you are "naturally" making 400 ng. per dl., you would shut down your own testosterone manufacturing system, and your body would adjust to a lesser amount of exogenous.
Bad move.
You might possibly be making much more than 200 ng per dl a week.
In essence, you would need 500 to 750 mg to get that "pep" you are looking for, and then you will stay "on" forever.
Do your research. This sounds like something a teenager would do just b/c it's "steroids" ~ without realizing the science behind it.
Not to mention the unnecessary loss of cash.
NO.
DO YOUR RESEARCH.
NOBODY PRODUCES 200MG/TEST NATURALLY.....NOBODY.TRY LESS THAN 5% OF THAT.
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When I spoke with my endo her REF guide stated that Testo should be injected every 21 days - now that is the starting area for this med - blood work will show if this is doing the right thing for yourself - if not then doses will be changed to get you back into the normal ranges.
When I first started Test I used 250mg a week and felt fantastic - just had a buzz of feel good all the time - didn't really notice "much" in the gym so have moved to BB doses that suit myself and my goals, but on 250mg a week you will notice a huge increase in feeling good and more energy. :)
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I mean, even if they are normal, would one 'feel better'? you know, have more bounce in your step and feel more positive?
Absolutely.
Biologically speaking, no. I am 34. Optimal hormone production ceases after 25 as you well know.
If you're over 30 it's always worth looking into. A lot of the garbage you read says a normal man's test levels won't really drop until he's in his 40's but that's just the anti-steroid crowd talking out of the side of their mouth. Plenty of guys start dropping in their 30's, even early 30's. I'd be willing to bet a lot of guys in their 30's have lower testosterone than they think.
nobody makes enough natty test to compare to 200mg per week. maybe a teen with great genetics comes close, but that amount puts you in the very high end range of where your levels should be. true hrt is like 100-150mg per week i think? plus, your body responds to the amount of androgens you put in. if you didnt put in more than what you already have you wont be getting completely shut down, youll still produce enough to make up the gap.
Agree with the milligram stuff....200mg per wk is going to send most any average man far beyond natural production. As far as the shutdown though of natural test, this one is a little more ifffy....suppression with exogenous testosterone is obviously going to be 100% with high long-term doses but these lower end doses can vary in-terms of total shut down. You start adding in exogenous testosterone even at small amounts a lot of guys will shut down 100% while others won't....it's impossible to predict.
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I realise that that dose is nothing for building muscle but as a mood and energy pick-me-up, would anyone recommend it?
Over 40- heck yes. Maybe over 35 in some cases. HGH if it ever gets cheap enough 2 ius a day (no I have not been able to do that yet.) Eat well, train and you're golden with the above. No you wont win shows, but you would look and feel better (and you can get VERY strong on that amount too, I have done it.)
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Just 100mg might put one at 800-1000ng or even more when it peaks.
That retard Palumbo is one example of a guy who says 200mg is equivalent to natural production. ::)
My brother did just 5 or 6 amps of test recently, one per week, and decided to stop due to sides. Heavy edema in ankles, watch didn't fit, scale moved up 10lbs almost immediately. He is also over 30 years old. Hardly equal to normal production.
I get that (swollen ankles/feet especially) just from 250mg Test E. A lot more Test P doesn't do that at all, though. No sides in fact. Far fucking better gains too. Any idea why that might be?