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TEHRAN, Iran — Two American men arrested more than two years ago while hiking along the Iraq-Iran border have been sentenced to eight years in prison on charges that include espionage, state TV reported Saturday, a sharp blow to hopes their release was imminent.
The announcement seemed to send a hard-line message from Iran's judiciary – which answers directly to the ruling clerics – weeks after the country's foreign minister suggested that the trial of Shane Bauer and Josh Fattal could clear the way for their freedom.
It also was likely to raise speculation about Iran using the Americans as political bargaining chips and could bring added tensions to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's expected visit to New York next month for the annual General Assembly at the United Nations.
Authorities did not immediately confirm the report and made no further comment – although it was carried on Iran's highly controlled state media, which is frequently used to make high-profile announcements.
In Washington, State Department Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland restated U.S. appeals for their release. "It is time to reunite them with their families," she said.
A spokeswoman for the men's relatives said only that the families were aware of the report and awaiting confirmation.
"They are asking for privacy during this difficult time," Samantha Topping said.
The Americans, whose final court hearing was three weeks ago, deny the charges and say they were only hiking in a scenic and largely peaceful area of northern Iraq near the porous border.
They were detained in July 2009 along with a third American, Sarah Shourd, who was released in September 2010 on $500,000 bail and returned to the United States. Shourd's case "is still open," the state-run TV website irinn.ir reported.
Bauer and Fattal, both 29, have been sentenced to three years each for illegal entry into Iran and five years each for spying for the United States, the website quoted "informed sources" at Iran's judiciary as saying. It was not immediately clear if that includes time served. They have 20 days to appeal the sentence.
Their Iranian attorney, Masoud Shafiei, said he has not been notified of the verdict but he will definitely appeal the sentence if true.
"I've not been notified of any verdict in the case of my clients," Shafiei told The Associated Press. "This is a strong verdict inconsistent with the charges."
It's unclear what maximum sentence was possible by the Revolutionary Court, which handles state security issues. Espionage can bring the death penalty, but handing the sentence to a foreigner is unknown legal territory in Iran.
Iran insists that its judiciary is independent from political currents, but Iranian officials have used the detained Americans to draw attention to alleged mistreatment of Iranians in U.S. prisons and others who were held by U.S. forces in Iraq. The report on the sentences came just two days after President Barack Obama made his most direct call for the resignation of Syrian President Bashar Assad, who remains among Iran's closest Mideast allies.
The case, meanwhile, has added to tensions between the United States and Iran that were already high over other issues, including Tehran's disputed nuclear program.
But Iran also recognizes the potential for goodwill gestures. Shourd's release – assisting with talks by Oman – came last year as Ahmadinejad was preparing for the annual U.N. gathering of world leaders.
The Americans say they mistakenly crossed into Iran when they stepped off a dirt road while hiking near a waterfall in the Kurdish region of Iraq. While other parts of Iraq remain troubled by violence, the semiautonomous Kurdish north has drawn tourists in recent years, including foreigners.
The U.S. government has appealed for the two men to be released, insisting that they have done nothing wrong. The two countries have no direct diplomatic relations, so Washington has been relying on an interests section at the Swiss Embassy in Tehran to follow the case.
Earlier this month, Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi said he hoped "the trial of the two American defendants who were detained for the crime of illegally entering Iran will finally lead to their freedom." Their lawyer also had expressed hope they might receive a pardon for the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
Shourd is back living in Oakland, California; Bauer grew up in Onamia, Minnesota; and Fattal is from suburban Philadelphia. The last direct contact family members had with Bauer and Fattal was in May 2010 when their mothers were permitted a short visit in Tehran.
Their case most closely parallels that of freelance journalist Roxana Saberi, an Iranian-American who convicted of spying before being released in May 2009. Saberi was sentenced to eight years in prison, but an appeals court reduced that to a two-year suspended sentence and let her return to the U.S.
At the time, a spokesman for the Iranian judiciary said the court ordered the reduction as a gesture of "Islamic mercy" because Saberi had cooperated with authorities and expressed regret.
In May 2009, a French academic, Clotilde Reiss, also was freed after her 10-year sentence on espionage-related charges was commuted.
Last year, Iran freed an Iranian-American businessman, Reza Taghavi, was held for 29 months for alleged links to a bombing in the southern city of Shiraz, which killed 14 people. Taghavi denied any role in the attack.
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The fucking morons should not have been anywhere near the Border of Iran. What did they think would happen if they entered that country? Dumb Asses...
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No sum' democracy were spread this time on mountains ;D
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The fucking morons should not have been anywhere near the Border of Iran. What did they think would happen if they entered that country? Dumb Asses...
X2 Iran is the mother country, number 1 country in the world.
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I always laugh at naive idiots going on vacation to third world countries.
It's a third world country for a reason, means stay the fuck away.
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X2 Iran is the mother country, number 1 country in the world.
Then go back you little prick.
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X2 Iran is the mother country, number 1 country in the world.
LOL
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X2 Iran is the mother country, number 1 country in the world.
LOL :D
Then go back you little prick.
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I always laugh at naive idiots going on vacation to third world countries.
It's a third world country for a reason, means stay the fuck away.
I remember the first time I was there after coming to Norway, I was in the embassy with my cousin and we saw this blonde guy, my cousin told me to go and talk to him cause he wanted to see me speak english, well it turned out the guy was a Norwegian who was on vacation to go skiing in the Mountains in Iran.. he was suprised as fuck to see a random irani kid there suddenly speaking flawless norwegian :D
Anyway, it's not Somalia bro, that was my point, many fucked up things but it's not Somalia
LOL
Seems like you Iranians are even more delusional than yankees. And that's fkin' well ;D
Seriously though, aren't everyone?
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The fucking morons should not have been anywhere near the Border of Iran. What did they think would happen if they entered that country? Dumb Asses...
What have they accomplished, nothing.
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What have they accomplished, nothing.
They accomplished getting their asses 8 years in Prison for being dumb. That is just like Americans going to the border of North Korea and then having Al Gore and Bill Clinton do a photo op with Dictators to get them freed. They should stay in Prison for a while so they can learn from what they did wrong. On the other hand, we have open borders for anyone to come in. We should be doing the same freaking thing. Throw people in Jail for coming into our country illegally.
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People are fucking idiots, they had to have known before hand that they hate Americans there, yet they decided to do it anyway. Today's youth is beyond dumb, their ideologies and liberal ideals will always get them burned in the worst way when faced with reality, and how things really work.
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The fucking morons should not have been anywhere near the Border of Iran. What did they think would happen if they entered that country? Dumb Asses...
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Nobody ever got detained by a third world country while eating ice cream and jerking off to internet porn in their living room at 3am.
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LoL yeah right like there are actually "hickers" on the Iranian boarder ::)
Text book Spooks
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time to send a few well placed bombs into tehran
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Nobody ever got detained by a third world country while eating ice cream and jerking off to internet porn in their living room at 3am.
Osama came close
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time to send a few well placed bombs into tehran
Yeah bro, why don't you drop them right on top of my familys neighbourhood as well, should teach the regime a lot ::)
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Yeah bro, why don't you drop them right on top of my familys neighbourhood as well, should teach the regime a lot ::)
"well placed" = key words
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"well placed" = key words
Strong realism right there...
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Strong realism right there...
u.s. military drones are extremely accurate. they even stick around monitoring missiles while in flight to make sure the taret has not changed, innocents havent come into the area, etc.. andthe missile path can be altered or canceled up to the last few seconds. a couple to the capital building, a couple to the estates of the key players, make sure to hit amadeenajahd (spelling lol) ...
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Friends who worked in northern Iraq as teachers said no way these guys aren't spies
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Viva la resistance
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Never forget
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Power to the people
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Their stupid, naïve, idealistic, lying Liberal professors at Berkeley should get the same 8 years for telling them to go there.
I was thinking CIA spooks until I saw their pictures.
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Their stupid, naïve, idealistic, lying Liberal professors at Berkeley should get the same 8 years for telling them to go there.
I was thinking CIA spooks until I saw their pictures.
They are CIA spooks
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I believe they were gathering information in the area and work for some alphabetized government agency.
The upside is, after two years in an Iranian prison they could win Mr. Getbig on their first attempt.
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They are CIA spooks
agreed, nobody would go wondering over the border to Iran by accident, they had to know where they were headed. I am sure what they had with them also told some more to the story that Iran isn't letting out. They are very proud country.
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CIA agents all the way CIA agents
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As I said, this is planned for US domestic politics;
Elections are nearing, campaigning runs already... Obama needs something to make him look like a national hero. What's better than saving two Americans from evil Iranians who American people hate (though most even don't know where this particular country is located) ?
This gives Obama also chance to appear as a negotiating president. He won't use brutal force, because he can't but also to prove his more discreet policy is the right choice. Watch. They won't be held 8 years in Iran.
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JtblowsAsalami/Rapingunder20's - you do realise your cocklust would be instant death in this shit hole unless of course your prefrence is a female goat - that there is accepted - and you say this place in number one ? you sick fa99ot
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The fucking morons should not have been anywhere near the Border of Iran. What did they think would happen if they entered that country? Dumb Asses...
true. i wouldn't hike within 50miles of the border...to be honest i wouldn't even go over to the middle east at all right not..BUT they need to be released ASAP
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religion of peace
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Let's hope for Persian freedom.
A government that arrests you for playing with waterpistols sucks in a major way.. >:(
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ron and shawn in iran promoting bbing
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time to send a few well placed bombs into tehran
They look like jews, i'm really not surprised at the sentencing.
Also Iran is a beautiful country with a long and great history, you are an ugly redneck piece of shit, hope this helps.
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I fucked an Iranian girl in college, she was pretty hot if you like that Persian look, her family had money and she was dirty as fuck. :D
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Well, they're having fun it seems...
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It's always a total shock that other countries too have their own laws and can govern them fiercly.
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it sucks for the americans... but at the same time, when you knowingly enter a spot in the world you know to be run by crazies, you know what you're getting into.
Whether they are spies or just clueless hikers, they went to one of the most dangerous and closely controlled places in the world. You don't just wake up one day in southern california and decide iran would be nice this tiem of year. it took a lot of money and effort just to get there - you'd think they would have done their research into the local laws.
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I'd rather rob a bank than go hiking in Iran!
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true. i wouldn't hike within 50miles of the border...to be honest i wouldn't even go over to the middle east at all right not..BUT they need to be released ASAP
umm why?? They are most likely spies for CIA or Israel, what do you think the US would do if it found some Iranian hikers on it's unfenced portion of it's borders walking along, just going for a hike eyyyy all the way from Iran sight seeing where there is no fence uhhh??? yeah right!! LOL
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They will prob send in that mumbling fuk Jesse Jackson to defuse the situation
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X2 Iran is the mother country, number 1 country in the world.
I am alerting homeland Security right now.
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I am alerting homeland Security right now.
OH NOoo :o :o :o
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true. i wouldn't hike within 50miles of the border...to be honest i wouldn't even go over to the middle east at all right not..BUT they need to be released ASAP
I am sure there will be some stupid deal made to get them released. There is always a deal to be made. Obama will make this a re-election piece.