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Black's Dilemma With Obama
Townhall.com ^ | August 22, 2011 | Star Parker
www.townhall.com
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Election of our nation's first black president is delivering an unexpected message to our black population.
Blacks are discovering that what a man or woman does -- their actions -- is what matters, not the color of their skin.
It seems ridiculous to point out that this was supposedly the point of the civil rights movement. Purge racism from America.
But blacks themselves have been the ones having the hardest time letting it go.
It is not hard to understand why black Americans were happy that a black man was elected president of the United States. It was kind of a final and most grand announcement that racism has finally been purged from America.
But for the highly politicized parts of black America this was certainly not the only message. Because for the highly politicized parts of black America, the point has always been to keep race in American politics.
For black political culture that dominated after the civil rights movement, the point was not just equal treatment under the law, but special treatment under the law. Plus the assumption that more black political power -- defined by more blacks holding office -- would mean that blacks would be better off.
In other words, post-civil rights movement black political culture embraced an agenda exactly the opposite of what the civil rights movement was about. Its agenda was to get laws and policies that were not neutral but racially slanted and to put individuals in power based on their race and not on their character and capability.
So, according to the script of this political culture, election of a black man as president meant more than an end to racism. The conclusion had to be that if the man holding the highest political office in the nation was black, it must follow that blacks would be better off.
Now blacks have a dilemma. We have a black president and blacks are worse off. Not just a little, but a lot worse off.
In the words of longtime Congressional Black Caucus member Maxine Waters, D-Calif., "Our people are hurtin'.."
Blacks now grapple with two possible conclusions.
One, our black president is a traitor to his race. Our struggles put him in power and now he's not taking care of his folks. He's become, in the words of left wing professor and activist Cornel West, a "mascot" of Wall Street.
Or, two, that the man's performance reflects his views and his capability, not his race. He's not delivering for anyone. Blacks are hurting more because they were already in worse shape when Obama got elected. Bad policies hurt the weakest the most.
And it happens that the bad policies that have always failed are the big government liberalism that has defined modern black politics.
With further thought, blacks might realize it's this same flawed idea -- that growing government and electing black politicians would make blacks better off -- that explains why blacks have remained disproportionately "hurtin".
Take the Congressional Black Caucus itself. The average poverty rate in Black Caucus districts is almost 50 percent higher than the national average. Yet, these black politicians have 100 percent re-election rates.
Maybe a real bonus that will have come from electing a black president is that blacks will take seriously Dr. King's dream that we judge men by their character and not their color.
The Civil Rights Movement took blacks to the edge of the Promised Land. But political activism can only remove barriers to freedom.
It's up to the individual to embrace freedom and take on the personal responsibilities that go with it.
Maybe blacks will realize that they should blame Barack Obama. Not because he is black, but because he is a liberal. And because he has grown government to the point where the oxygen necessary for freedom and prosperity is being squeezed out of our nation.
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Star Parker is spitting in the wind. The 95 % of blacks who voted for Obama in 2008 will do so again no matter what he does. Obama could wear a KKK costume and blast Dixie from a broken up Pick Up Truck and promise to reinstate slavery and Jim Crow laws and they would still vote for him.
Obama is nothing more than a media creation and does not give a fuck about blacks any more or less than any other politican does. Its just that blacks think his half black side actually gives a damn.
Notice Bama rarely if ever goes into urban areas or is ever seen with other blacks?
Sad but true.
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Black's Dilemma With Obama
Townhall.com ^ | August 22, 2011 | Star Parker
www.townhall.com
________________________ ________________________ ________
Election of our nation's first black president is delivering an unexpected message to our black population.
Blacks are discovering that what a man or woman does -- their actions -- is what matters, not the color of their skin.
It seems ridiculous to point out that this was supposedly the point of the civil rights movement. Purge racism from America.
But blacks themselves have been the ones having the hardest time letting it go.
It is not hard to understand why black Americans were happy that a black man was elected president of the United States. It was kind of a final and most grand announcement that racism has finally been purged from America.
But for the highly politicized parts of black America this was certainly not the only message. Because for the highly politicized parts of black America, the point has always been to keep race in American politics.
For black political culture that dominated after the civil rights movement, the point was not just equal treatment under the law, but special treatment under the law. Plus the assumption that more black political power -- defined by more blacks holding office -- would mean that blacks would be better off.
In other words, post-civil rights movement black political culture embraced an agenda exactly the opposite of what the civil rights movement was about. Its agenda was to get laws and policies that were not neutral but racially slanted and to put individuals in power based on their race and not on their character and capability.
So, according to the script of this political culture, election of a black man as president meant more than an end to racism. The conclusion had to be that if the man holding the highest political office in the nation was black, it must follow that blacks would be better off.
Now blacks have a dilemma. We have a black president and blacks are worse off. Not just a little, but a lot worse off.
In the words of longtime Congressional Black Caucus member Maxine Waters, D-Calif., "Our people are hurtin'.."
Blacks now grapple with two possible conclusions.
One, our black president is a traitor to his race. Our struggles put him in power and now he's not taking care of his folks. He's become, in the words of left wing professor and activist Cornel West, a "mascot" of Wall Street.
Or, two, that the man's performance reflects his views and his capability, not his race. He's not delivering for anyone. Blacks are hurting more because they were already in worse shape when Obama got elected. Bad policies hurt the weakest the most.
And it happens that the bad policies that have always failed are the big government liberalism that has defined modern black politics.
With further thought, blacks might realize it's this same flawed idea -- that growing government and electing black politicians would make blacks better off -- that explains why blacks have remained disproportionately "hurtin".
Take the Congressional Black Caucus itself. The average poverty rate in Black Caucus districts is almost 50 percent higher than the national average. Yet, these black politicians have 100 percent re-election rates.
Maybe a real bonus that will have come from electing a black president is that blacks will take seriously Dr. King's dream that we judge men by their character and not their color.
The Civil Rights Movement took blacks to the edge of the Promised Land. But political activism can only remove barriers to freedom.
It's up to the individual to embrace freedom and take on the personal responsibilities that go with it.
Maybe blacks will realize that they should blame Barack Obama. Not because he is black, but because he is a liberal. And because he has grown government to the point where the oxygen necessary for freedom and prosperity is being squeezed out of our nation.
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Star Parker is spitting in the wind. The 95 % of blacks who voted for Obama in 2008 will do so again no matter what he does. Obama could wear a KKK costume and blast Dixie from a broken up Pick Up Truck and promise to reinstate slavery and Jim Crow laws and they would still vote for him.
Obama is nothing more than a media creation and does not give a fuck about blacks any more or less than any other politican does. Its just that blacks think his half black side actually gives a damn.
Notice Bama rarely if ever goes into urban areas or is ever seen with other blacks?
Sad but true.
Star Parker is one of the biggest hypocrites of all time. Her personal history speaks for itself. She's an associate for Rev David Manning of ATLAH Worldwide....the modern day Uncle Ruckus.
She has no room whatsoever to take much less write about anyone considering the number of abortions she's had along with her criminal record. She needs to keep her legs closed and stay out of jail
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Attack the messenger. Typical.
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What a load of horseshit
Our economic problems have everything to do with what the previous administration did and the only part that Obama's owns is continuing to have to pay the bill for past expenditures that were unfunded and for having to try to also fix (or the very least mitigate) the problems that were created by the last administration and by the Republicans in general (you know, the guys who raised the debt limit 7 times under Bush and never said a peep about the deficit). The idea that Obama has grown the government is absurd as well. Why do Repubs always pretend that the other party is the one that grows the size of the government when the record clearly shows it's always there party that the real culprit.
Maybe Repubs have forgotten that the debt they ran up under Bush is still there and the interest payments on that debt continue to accumulate.
Here's a little visual reminder
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Obama threatened to filibuster Fanny Freddy reform in 2005 and was one of their biggest campaign donees.
Obama appointed Geithner, Summers, Rubin, Gensler, johnson, and a whole host of other bad actors in this meltdown to his Admn.
Obama is threatening the NYS AG now over his probe of fraud on Wall Street and has given away trillions to these gangsters.
Obama supported all of the policies leading up to the crash and has added many of his own, inclusing the wars, and including extending the very tax cuts he rails about.
So stop with the bogus excuses Straw - they are not even plausible any longer.
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Obama is white.
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BOOOMMMM!!!!!
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I still think Obama is white.
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I still think Obama is white.
He is 100% POFS
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Obama threatened to filibuster Fanny Freddy reform in 2005 and was one of their biggest campaign donees.
Obama appointed Geithner, Summers, Rubin, Gensler, johnson, and a whole host of other bad actors in this meltdown to his Admn.
Obama is threatening the NYS AG now over his probe of fraud on Wall Street and has given away trillions to these gangsters.
Obama supported all of the policies leading up to the crash and has added many of his own, inclusing the wars, and including extending the very tax cuts he rails about.
So stop with the bogus excuses Straw - they are not even plausible any longer.
facts that are contrary to your preconceived delusions = bogus excuses in your world
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Name on this I made up in that list.
Please bro - other than 95% of moron blacks who intend to vote for obama and tiny pockets of deluded leftists in Cali and NY like yourself, everyone sees through this fraud called Obama.
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Name on this I made up in that list.
Please bro - other than 95% of moron blacks who intend to vote for obama and tiny pockets of deluded leftists in Cali and NY like yourself, everyone sees through this fraud called Obama.
you've posted as recently at this weekend that you believe Obama will not run for a second term
do you really believe that?
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you've posted as recently at this weekend that you believe Obama will not run for a second term
do you really believe that?
I don't think he will if the GDP numbers show a new recession. His own party will force him to step aside as the Senate Dems are force to defend far more Senate seats in 2012 than they did in 2010 and the GOP already is slated to take over the Senate as is.
His policies have been like shooting a wounded soldier on the battlefield in the head before the medic could arrive.
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I don't think he will if the GDP numbers show a new recession. His own party will force him to step aside as the Senate Dems are force to defend far more Senate seats in 2012 than they did in 2010 and the GOP already is slated to take over the Senate as is.
His policies have been like shooting a wounded soldier on the battlefield in the head before the medic could arrive.
this statement above proves your brain is broken
seek medical help or at the very least understand why I can't ever take anything you say seriously (see your other 50k posts for more examples of why you are truly, and I don't say this with any malice, mentally and emotionally unbalanced)
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I don't think he will if the GDP numbers show a new recession. His own party will force him to step aside as the Senate Dems are force to defend far more Senate seats in 2012 than they did in 2010 and the GOP already is slated to take over the Senate as is.
His policies have been like shooting a wounded soldier on the battlefield in the head before the medic could arrive.
333368 getbig's Nostradumbass :D
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this statement above proves your brain is broken
seek medical help or at the very least understand why I can't ever take anything you say seriously (see your other 50k posts for more examples of why you are truly, and I don't say this with any malice, mentally and emotionally unbalanced)
Name one thing I said remotely off base.
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Name one thing I said remotely off base.
I already have
hundreds of times
you can start with this thread and work backwards
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I already have
hundreds of times
you can start with this thread and work backwards
:D :D :D
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I can't believe your still defending this guy. I expect that as soon as some big named Dem starts the dump Obama movement, his supporters here will suddenly turn that way as well. Obama has failed. He was president, he's spending the money, he's the guy who didn't fix anything, Bush has very little to do with his current failures so end it now.
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333368 getbig's Nostradumbass :D
I think it's much more than just being a dumb
I think he's got a very tenuous grip on reality and has some serious emotional problems.
That shooter in Norway has made many statements that sound like they were lifted right from 333's posts here on GB
The only difference I see between the two is that 333 hasn't killed anyone.......yet
the day before that dude in Norway killed 70+ people he was just another far right wing nut bag posting on message boards and ranting to anyone who would listen
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I already have
hundreds of times
you can start with this thread and work backwards
Obama is at 40% at gallup now. He is at 35% in PA and has horrible numbers all over the map. He is slated to lose PA, OH, NC, FL, and many other swing states, which will have a disastrous effect on the down ballot people for the Dems.
After the Tsunami against the demsn in 2010, they are not going to be willing to take a second bullet in the head for obama who is already a lame duck if the GOP holds the house or controls the Senate.
They will cut obama loose and try to fend for themselves.
I am thinking more and more Bama is going to pull a LBJ 1968
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I think it's much more than just being a dumb
I think he's got a very tenuous grip on reality and has some serious emotional problems.
That shooter in Norway has made many statements that sound like they were lifted right from 333's posts here on GB
The only difference I see between the two is that 333 hasn't killed anyone.......yet
the day before that dude in Norway killed 70+ people he was just another far right wing nut bag posting on message boards and ranting to anyone who would listen
LMFAO! How is that stim bill working out jackass?
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Obama is at 40% at gallup now. He is at 35% in PA and has horrible numbers all over the map. He is slated to lose PA, OH, NC, FL, and many other swing states, which will have a disastrous effect on the down ballot people for the Dems.
After the Tsunami against the demsn in 2010, they are not going to be willing to take a second bullet in the head for obama who is already a lame duck if the GOP holds the house or controls the Senate.
They will cut obama loose and try to fend for themselves.
I am thinking more and more Bama is going to pull a LBJ 1968
again - just more proof that your brain is broken
I assume you're aware that he's already announced his candicacy for 2012 and like all other facts that are contrary to your preconceived delusions you've just chosen to ignore it
your brain is BROKEN
I'm not trying to insult you
I really am trying to help you
I'm worried that when Obama wins a second term you're going to snap and all the crazy that has been building up and creating all that pressure inside your skull is going to come out
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LMFAO! How is that stim bill working out jackass?
it was working fine while it lasted
refer to all the Repubs who said it created/saved jobs (or ask Perry who took the money and balanced his budget)
again, you have disqualified yourself from any reasonable discussions on any topic
sorry but it's just not fair to include you since you have a legitimate mental/emotional problem
It's only a matter of time until you act on all those voices that are screaming in your head
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again - just more proof that your brain is broken
I assume you're aware that he's already announced his candicacy for 2012 and like all other facts that are contrary to your preconceived delusions you've just chosen to ignore it
your brain is BROKEN
I'm not trying to insult you
I really am trying to help you
I'm worried that when Obama wins a second term you're going to snap and all the crazy that has been building up and creating all that pressure inside your skull is going to come out
Again - more insults without one refuation of the points I made.
If you want to follow bama off the cliff in 2012 and wake up Nov 7 in a puddle of tears wondering what happened when he gets demolished, so be it. You had no clue 2010 would be so disastrous for the dems, and you likely have no clue now that obama is going to take the entire Dem party down with him in 2012 if he stays on the ballot.
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it was working fine while it lasted
refer to all the Repubs who said it created/saved jobs (or ask Perry who took the money and balanced his budget)
again, you have disqualified yourself from any reasonable discussions on any topic
sorry but it's just not fair to include you since you have a legitimate mental/emotional problem
It's only a matter of time until you act on all those voices that are screaming in your head
Yeah - worked out great - LFPR is at all time lows and going lower. Sure primed the pump right? LMFAO!
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Again - more insults without one refuation of the points I made.
If you want to follow bama off the cliff in 2012 and wake up Nov 7 in a puddle of tears wondering what happened when he gets demolished, so be it. You had no clue 2010 would be so disastrous for the dems, and you likely have no clue now that obama is going to take the entire Dem party down with him in 2012 if he stays on the ballot.
I'm not insulting you
I'm telling you the way it is
sorry if you feel as though you're being insulted
that is not my intention
I'm worried how you're going to react when Obama is re-elected
you seem totally unprepared (again - he's announced his candidacy and you still believe he will not even be running)
you have consistently demonstrated that you have serious mental/emotional problems and you should seek some help for your own sake
that is not intended as an insult
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Attack the messenger. Typical.
You don't have any clue to who the messenger is. Any person who celebrates Obama's grandmother dying and trashes his kids is the worse piece of garbage alive.
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You don't have any clue to who the messenger is. Any person who celebrates Obama's grandmother dying and trashes his kids is the worse piece of garbage alive.
I know who Star Parker is. I read her first book cover to cover back in the mid 90's.
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333 - you choose to ignore facts which have been layed out in front of you many times
Obama's budget deficits included Bush era debt payments and Bush era expenditures that were not included in his budgets
All this was exacerbated by cratering GDP from Bush era financial meltdown.
these are facts
you choose to ingore them
you choose to create your own reality and because it's not real and very fragile you have to constantly struggle to maintain it
one way you do this is by posting on this board 24/7
your brain in damaged and you really need to seek some help
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Yawn. The Dems took over the Senate and Congress in 2007. Why didnt they do anything about it from 2007 - 2009?
And why did they not do a damn thing about it from 2009 - 2011?
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I know who Star Parker is. I read her first book cover to cover back in the mid 90's.
Did you not hear the part where she works with Rev. James David Manning of Atlah. That should be enough to stay away from this womens. He makes Westboro Baptist look like angels.
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Yawn. The Dems took over the Senate and Congress in 2007. Why didnt they do anything about it from 2007 - 2009?
And why did they not do a damn thing about it from 2009 - 2011?
and that doesn't change anything I've said in the thread
all Bush's spending was in place by then and they didn't have the votes to change any of it and they certainly weren't going to pull the plug on the wars at that time
again - none of that has anthing to do with your primary delusions
you know - that Obama is a secret Kenyan, Marxist Communnit intent on collapsing the nation and that even though he still hasn't managed to collapse the country he still wants to and even though he's announced his candiacy he won't actually be running
It takes a lot of crazy energy to keep that delusional facade held together inside that fragile mind of yours
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No - it shows you that the blame Bush crap is empty nonsense when you take everything into account.
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Did you not hear the part where she works with Rev. James David Manning of Atlah. That should be enough to stay away from this womens. He makes Westboro Baptist look like angels.
You should have listened to Manning in 2008. If you did, you would not be forced to defend the indefensible now solely out of racial solidarity.
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I'm not insulting you
I'm telling you the way it is
sorry if you feel as though you're being insulted
that is not my intention
I'm worried how you're going to react when Obama is re-elected
you seem totally unprepared (again - he's announced his candidacy and you still believe he will not even be running)
you have consistently demonstrated that you have serious mental/emotional problems and you should seek some help for your own sake
that is not intended as an insult
Tell it the way it is? Hmmmm ok well then.... Barry has fucking failed how about that. He is destroying this country and you fucking lib douchbags saddled us with the absolute worst president in the last 100 years. Your worried about 3...u should be worried about this country. Everything this current admin has done has failed.
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No - it shows you that the blame Bush crap is empty nonsense when you take everything into account.
you may not belieive this but I'm really trying to help you
you clearly demonstrate mental and emotional problems
no joke
you should get some help
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Well - if your goal is to collapse the nation and make us weaker than Ghana and Chad, than yeah - Barry is doing great.
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Tell it the way it is? Hmmmm ok well then.... Barry has fucking failed how about that. He is destroying this country and you fucking lib douchbags saddled us with the absolute worst president in the last 100 years. Your worried about 3...u should be worried about this country. Everything this current admin has done has failed.
you must not be aware that 333 believes this is all part of Obama's plan to collapse the country ( you know as revenge for what we did to his father)
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you may not belieive this but I'm really trying to help you
you clearly demonstrate mental and emotional problems
no joke
you should get some help
Spare me the concern Straw.
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you must not be aware that 333 believes this is all part of Obama's plan to collapse the country ( you know as revenge for what we did to his father)
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Spare me the concern Straw.
it's more for the people who are around you when you eventually snap
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LMFAO straw man youre a fuking trip man, idiotic and ignorant but a fuking trip
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You should have listened to Manning in 2008. If you did, you would not be forced to defend the indefensible now solely out of racial solidarity.
That's nothing compared to what he said about Sarah Palin and her daughter or John McCain....Like I said, you really don't know Star Parker or James Manning.