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The Obama administration will release final plans Tuesday for ending or cutting back hundreds of regulations, an effort to reduce the burden on business and counter criticism that the White House is tone-deaf to business concerns. Certain railroad cars won't have to install expensive technology, hospitals will be able to skip a round of federal paperwork and low-risk travelers to the U.S. will enjoy expedited entry, officials said
Source: www.RepublicansWillStill FindReasonToWhineAboutTh is.com/noshitsherlock.html
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Until and unless they repeal the main regulation we all know about and have been screaming about from Day 1 since it was passed, this wont do a damn thing. More ribbons on a pig.
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Obama administration added $9.5 billion in new regulations last month
American Thinker ^ | 8/5/2011 | Rick Moran
Posted on August 23, 2011 6:23:00 PM EDT by tobyhill
Aren't you glad that Obama is once again going to "pivot" and focus on jobs now?
He might want to start by reigning in his runaway bureaucracy who are more concerned about carving out fiefdoms than in getting out of the way of job creation:
While Congress was focused on increasing the debt limit and giving Americans the impression that they were actually working towards reducing our debt (which didn't happen), President Obama and his administration quietly piled on $9.5 billion worth of regulations to job creators...in just one month!
"While Washington and Americans have been focused on the debt ceiling, the Obama administration has continued to roll our more crushing red tape," a spokesperson for Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) said.
The new regulatory costs include 229 new rules and the finalization of an additional 379 rules, the majority of which came from (no surprise) the EPA, the new healthcare takeover law, and the Dodd-Frank financial takeover law.
So as President Obama and his liberal allies complained that enough wasn't being done to stimulate job growth during the debt debate, we find out that they were actually working to make it even harder to create jobs. The President has also indicated - for the Nth time - that he will now "pivot" towards creating jobs.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Get a clue 180.
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yup, right now the only regulation that matters is the health care bill that is a job killer.
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240, Straw, Mal, Lurker, Benny, Blacken, - bullshitted and made to look like idiots by Obama once again.
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Obama’s proposed regs would cost billions annually
By Dave Boyer
The Washington Times
Updated: 3:34 p.m. on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
President Obama told Speaker John A. Boehner in a letter Tuesday that his administration is considering seven regulations that would cost the U.S. economy more than $1 billion per year, although he added that these rules are "merely proposed."
All told, the seven proposed rules cited by Mr. Obama would cost companies at least $38 billion per year and could cost as much as $100 billion annually.
"Before finalizing any of them, we will take account of public comments and concerns and give careful consideration to cost-saving possibilities and alternatives," Mr. Obama wrote to the Ohio Republican.
Mr. Boehner wrote to the president last Friday, asking for an accounting of proposed rules that would cost more than $1 billion annually. "The economy cannot withstand the barrage of major new federal regulations planned by the administration," Mr. Boehner said.
When they return to work in Washington next week, House Republicans plan to focus on cutting government red tape as a way to promote job creation.
The president listed four proposed Environmental Protection Agency rules and three in the Department of Transportation as having the high potential cost. An EPA regulation on air quality standards could cost between $19 billion and $90 billion per year.
The administration has been sparring with industry and congressional Republicans over cutting government regulations for most of Mr. Obama's presidency. In his letter, Mr. Obama argued that his administration has already cut red tape that will save more than $10 billion over the next five years.
The president also said the cost of "final, economically significant rules" were higher in the final two years of the administration of Republican George W. Bush than in the first two years of Mr. Obama's administration. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has questioned the administration's tally.
Mr. Boehner said the administration's regulatory agenda includes at least 219 proposed rules with a projected economic impact of at least $100 million, which he said runs counter to the president's stated desire to reduce the regulatory burden on businesses.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/30/obama-proposed-regulations-would-cost-1-billion/print
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so what are the regulations
here is the ony info provided in the story
The president listed four proposed Environmental Protection Agency rules and three in the Department of Transportation as having the high potential cost. An EPA regulation on air quality standards could cost between $19 billion and $90 billion per year.
how do you know they are not warranted or do something to protect the country, the enviroment, public safety, the ecomony etc..
I'd think you would want some specific detail before you decided it was "bad" and started ranting and raving
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Its called creating a climate of uncertainty to where business refuse to higher because they dont know the looing cost of these crackpots in DC.
We have been screaming about this from Day 1 of this economically illiterate idiot you voted for, and yet, you still act like its a mystery why businesses refuse to hire anyone.
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Its called creating a climate of uncertainty to where business refuse to higher because they dont know the looing cost of these crackpots in DC.
We have been screaming about this from Day 1 of this economically illiterate idiot you voted for, and yet, you still act like its a mystery why businesses refuse to hire anyone.
that phrase is such horseshit
That seems to be a favorite Republican talking point these days
It's not the governments role to create certainty for business, nor can they do so unless perhaps you'd like to move to china
Back to my question, tell me what you know about these proposed regulations and what is good (if anything) or bad or unfair about them
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Not its not bullshit straw - ask ANY BUSINESS PERSON and they will tell you the same thing.
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Not its not bullshit straw - ask ANY BUSINESS PERSON and they will tell you the same thing.
I'm asking you and you can't tell me one thing about any of these regulations
who in their right mind draws concluusions and goes off on a rant without knowing any of the facts
doesn't that seem crazy to you?
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I'm asking you and you can't tell me one thing about any of these regulations
who in their right mind draws concluusions and goes off on a rant without knowing any of the facts
doesn't that seem crazy to you?
THATS THE FUCKING POINT!
NOT KNOWING WHATS COMING = UNCERTAINTY
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Not its not bullshit straw - ask ANY BUSINESS PERSON and they will tell you the same thing.
I've never heard any businessperson say it's the governments role to create certainty in the market place
that's a recent Republican talking point and nothing more
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THATS THE FUCKING POINT!
NOT KNOWING WHATS COMING = UNCERTAINTY
again, how do you know that the proposed regulations are not good for the country, public safety, public health, etc.. and even for the over all economy
your argument seems to be that you don't anything about them but you're scared and you think it's the governments fault that your ignorance is making you scared
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again, how do you know that the proposed regulations are not good for the country, public safety, public health, etc.. and even for the over all economy
your argument seems to be that you don't anything about them but you're scared and you think it's the governments fault that your ignorance is making you scared
Because everything else that has come out of this admn has been patently anti business and draconian.
GET A DAMN CLUE!
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333 - you know what's really hilarious
you're a guy who believe that the government should do almost nothing to help the average citizen - no health care, no unemployment, no public education, no social security etc..
but business people, the risk takers in society who invest "risk capital" somehow require and demand the government "create certainty" for them or they can't do anything
any chance your diseased brain can see the irony
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333 - you know what's really hilarious
you're a guy who believe that the government should do almost nothing to help the average citizen - no health care, no unemployment, no public education, no social security etc..
but business people, the risk takers in society who invest "risk capital" somehow require and demand the government "create certainty" for them or they can't do anything
any chance your diseased brain can see the irony
Ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!
L M F A O ! ! ! !
You really are fucked in the head.
Uncertainty is about the govt piling on bogus regulations and costs moron!
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!
L M F A O ! ! ! !
You really are fucked in the head.
Uncertainty is about the govt piling on bogus regulations and costs moron!
you mean the regulations you've admitted you know nothing about?
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you mean the regulations you've admitted you know nothing about?
No, we see what they have done already and if the past is a good indication of what is to come - its going to be grab ankles time.
Obamacare anyone?
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No, we see what they have done already and if the past is a good indication of what is to come - its going to be grab ankles time.
Obamacare anyone?
let's review
you've admitted you have no details on said regulations and therefore have no clue if they are bogus, valid, if they are beneficial to the country, our health our environment, public saftely etc.
Obamacare hasn't gone into effect and the story you posted about it earlier even mentioned that most people are actually less informed about the facts (finally something you have in common with your fellow Americans) of the legislation than they were a year ago
your entire believe system is predicated upon willful ignorance
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let's review
you've admitted you have no details on said regulations and therefore have no clue if they are bogus, valid, if they are beneficial to the country, our health our environment, public saftely etc.
Obamacare hasn't gone into effect and the story you posted about it earlier even mentioned that most people are actually less informed about the facts (finally something you have in common with your fellow Americans) of the legislation than they were a year ago
your entire believe system is predicated upon willful ignorance
LMFAO!
Ha ha ha ha ha - bro you really make me freaking laugh.
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LMFAO!
Ha ha ha ha ha - bro you really make me freaking laugh.
let me know when/if you ever find out one bit of info about any of those regulations that frighen you so much
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let me know when/if you ever find out one bit of info about any of those regulations that frighen you so much
how the ones already freaking passed that are killing jobs!
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how the ones already freaking passed that are killing jobs!
tell me more
which ones, how did they kill jobs, etc..
you know the drill
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President Obama's $90 BILLION Clean Air Regulation
Zeke Miller | Aug. 30, 2011, 5:01 PM | 293 | 4
GOP Plans Weekly Votes To Repeal "Job-Destroying Regulations," New Tax Cuts The Bad Timing Of Obama's Jobs SpeechThe Mega-Merger: The United States and Canada
In a letter to Speaker of the House John Boehner today, President Barack Obama revealed that the Environmental Protection Agency is considering a clean air rule that could cost up to $90 billion to implement.
The proposed regulation, "Reconsideration of the 2008 Ozone National Ambient Air Quality Standard" would lower the allowable concentration of ozone from 0.075 parts-per-million to between 0.060 and 0.070 ppm. According to the EPA, the new standards are required to increase protection for children and "at-risk" populations against respiratory and cardiovascular diseases related to exposure to ozone in the air.
Obama said the primary cost estimate of implementation is between $19 billion and $90 billion.
The EPA says most ozone comes from three categories of sources — vehicle engines, industrial processes, and electrical power production. The rule would tighten emissions standards on all three categories — which would require technological changes, that critics say would cost jobs.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor called it "possibly the most harmful of all the currently anticipated Obama Administration regulations," in a memo to House Republicans Monday, adding he will seek to repeal the legislation this Winter. Cantor said estimates put the cost of the rule at "$1 trillion or more over a decade and millions of jobs."
The Manufacturers Alliance, a lobbying group for industry, put the cost of meeting the regulation at $1.013 trillion and 7.3 million jobs between 2020 and 2030 — numbers the Obama administration strongly contests.
Regardless the rule would be among the costliest in recent memory — and has brought a spotlight to other Obama administration regulations.
In a statement, Speaker of the House John Boehner responded to Obama's letter saying "we know from the Administration’s own disclosures that there are 212 other regulatory actions in the works, each with an estimated cost to our economy of more than $100 million." Adding that "at a time like this, with our economy struggling to create jobs, it’s misguided for the federal government to be imposing so many new rules with such enormous costs, even when some of those rules may be well-intentioned.”
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President Obama's $90 BILLION Clean Air Regulation
Zeke Miller | Aug. 30, 2011, 5:01 PM | 293 | 4
GOP Plans Weekly Votes To Repeal "Job-Destroying Regulations," New Tax Cuts The Bad Timing Of Obama's Jobs SpeechThe Mega-Merger: The United States and Canada
In a letter to Speaker of the House John Boehner today, President Barack Obama revealed that the Environmental Protection Agency is considering a clean air rule that could cost up to $90 billion to implement.
The proposed regulation, "Reconsideration of the 2008 Ozone National Ambient Air Quality Standard" would lower the allowable concentration of ozone from 0.075 parts-per-million to between 0.060 and 0.070 ppm. According to the EPA, the new standards are required to increase protection for children and "at-risk" populations against respiratory and cardiovascular diseases related to exposure to ozone in the air.
Obama said the primary cost estimate of implementation is between $19 billion and $90 billion.
The EPA says most ozone comes from three categories of sources — vehicle engines, industrial processes, and electrical power production. The rule would tighten emissions standards on all three categories — which would require technological changes, that critics say would cost jobs.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor called it "possibly the most harmful of all the currently anticipated Obama Administration regulations," in a memo to House Republicans Monday, adding he will seek to repeal the legislation this Winter. Cantor said estimates put the cost of the rule at "$1 trillion or more over a decade and millions of jobs."
The Manufacturers Alliance, a lobbying group for industry, put the cost of meeting the regulation at $1.013 trillion and 7.3 million jobs between 2020 and 2030 — numbers the Obama administration strongly contests.
Regardless the rule would be among the costliest in recent memory — and has brought a spotlight to other Obama administration regulations.
In a statement, Speaker of the House John Boehner responded to Obama's letter saying "we know from the Administration’s own disclosures that there are 212 other regulatory actions in the works, each with an estimated cost to our economy of more than $100 million." Adding that "at a time like this, with our economy struggling to create jobs, it’s misguided for the federal government to be imposing so many new rules with such enormous costs, even when some of those rules may be well-intentioned.”
Please follow Politics on Twitter and Facebook.
Follow Zeke Miller on Twitter.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/president-obamas-90-billion-regulation-2011-8#ixzz1WY9WCNOH
from your article
The Manufacturers Alliance, a lobbying group for industry, put the cost of meeting the regulation at $1.013 trillion and 7.3 million jobs between 2020 and 2030 — numbers the Obama administration strongly contests.
so no actual proof that it would "kill" jobs other than a claim by Repubs and a industry group with no actual specific details.
would the tighter standard create other jobs?
are the tighter standards good for our envirnment and our health?
Here's the big question - is this just a ruse by Obama to kill jobs and collaps the nation and how would this help his plan to collpase the nation if it's not going to have the alleged job killing effect for another 20 years
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Considering obama thought the stim bill would keep UE under 8%, obamacare would lower premiums, I tend to believe the business group ver Obama.
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Considering obama thought the stim bill would keep UE under 8%, obamacare would lower premiums, I tend to believe the business group ver Obama.
translation = no answer to any of my questions
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translation = no answer to any of my questions
LMAO - why should we trust obama on anything considering everything he has promised and done so far as been false and failed?
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LMAO - why should we trust obama on anything considering everything he has promised and done so far as been false and failed?
why would I trust anything Boehner says or an for than matter an industry group
seriously though, is this regulation stuff really just a ploy to collapse the nation?
I mean Obama is not doing this to help the protect the environment or to "increase protection for children and "at-risk" populations against respiratory and cardiovascular diseases related to exposure to ozone in the air"
That's all bullshit right?
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There's two......Obama is fucking assbag.
Two new EPA pollution regulations will slam the coal industry so hard that hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost, and electric rates will skyrocket 11 percent to over 23 percent, according to a new study based on government data.
Overall, the rules aimed at making the air cleaner could cost the coal-fired power plant industry $180 billion, warns a trade group.
[Check out a roundup of political cartoons on energy policy.]
“Many of these severe impacts would hit families living in states already facing serious economic challenges,” said Steve Miller, president of the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity. “Because of these impacts, EPA should make major changes to the proposed regulations before they are finalized,” he said.
The EPA, however, tells Whispers that the hit the industry will suffer is worth the health benefits. “EPA has taken a number of sensible steps to protect public health, while also working with industry and other stakeholders to ensure that these important Clean Air Act standards—such as the first ever national Mercury and Air Toxics Standards for coal-fired power plants—are reasonable, common-sense, and achievable,” said spokesman Brendan Gilfillan. [Read Rep. Darrell Issa: Obama's Bad Policy, Harmful Regulations Add to Gas Prices.]
What’s more, officials said that just one of the rules to cut sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxide emissions will would yield up to $290 billion in annual health and welfare benefits in 2014. They say that amounts to preventing up to 36,000 premature deaths, 26,000 hospital and emergency room visits, and 240,000 cases of aggravated asthma. “This far outweighs the estimated annual costs,” says an official on background. [Check out political cartoons on the economy.]
Still, the EPA did note that the two new antipollution rules are “pending” and that the agency has “accepted and are considering feedback” from the industry.
The industry says the costs and potential to lose four jobs for every new clean energy job created isn’t worth the rules, especially in a job-starved economy. [See a slide show of the best cities to find a job.]
Referring to the analysis of the EPA regulations from National Economic Research Associates, Miller said they would be the most expensive rules ever imposed on power plants.
Coal-fired energy plants currently fuel about half of the nation’s energy supply.
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In liberal cartoon land none of this matters.