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For members of TK and left-winged goofies to ponder:
What if Obama isn't so smart?
Eek! Another Republican moron is running for president, and the blogs on the Left are aghast.
Another village in Texas is missing its idiot!
Another s--t-kicking cowboy has messed with their heads.
The question this time is not just whether Texas Gov. Rick Perry is dumb -- the Left claims the obvious answer is yes -- but also whether he is as dumb as George W. Bush, or even much dumber, moronic where Bush was simply "incurious," and also much less gently bred.
Either way, few on the Left doubt that neither is, as Steve Benen says, "an intellectually curious, creative thinker, capable to examining [sic] complex issues in a sophisticated way."
Fortunately we have such a thinker, "capable to examining" things to perfection, and that is the problem: President Obama is their ideal of a thinker. He is president, and he has been -- how to put it? -- a bomb.
Based on results, Perry has been more successful as governor of Texas than Obama has been as president, or as anything else he has ever tried being, in the entire whole course of his life.
In 2008, Obama was hailed as a genius, a "first rate intellect," the smartest man to ever be president, and we know now the first part is true. He is the political genius who shed 30 points in his first years in office.
He's the political genius who blew up his coalition in his first months in office, who led his party to annihilation in the 2010 midterms (while showing utter indifference to the fate of congressional Democrats), and gave the Republicans -- who were on the floor, in a coma -- more than they needed to come roaring back from the dead.
He is the policy genius who "leads from behind," whose engagement ideas have gone nowhere, whose stimulus stimulated only the deficit, whose health care "success" helped kill off his recovery, and whose efforts to create jobs all fell flat.
Almost 40 percent of the new jobs that were created happened under Perry in Texas. Liberals who fault that state for its low levels of taxes and spending might ask themselves why, if it is a hellhole, so many people go there and stay there.
Many of them are fleeing states ruled by Democrats, which have high taxes, a strong union presence and a rich array of the programs that Democrats love.
If this is idiocy, we may want some more idiots, as Lincoln once asked for more drunks in his army, rather like Gen. Grant.
The bloggers fear that he may win a second term anyhow, as there may be a difference between being "too dumb to govern," (look at Bush, for example), and being "too dumb to win."
Kevin Drum at Mother Jones thinks Perry may be too dim for even the doltish American public, while Paul Waldman thinks otherwise. "The doltish candidates seem mostly on the Republican side," he writes in the American Prospect, while only Democrats have and/or treasure intelligence.
"So while there are many things to dislike about Perry, his tiny brain" might do him no harm. But the real examples of those who campaigned well and bombed afterward are Democrats, such as Obama and Carter, whose careers peaked on the day they took office and went steadily downhill from then on.
And if Obama is brilliant, and Bush is an imbecile, how come the genius kept most of the things the dolt set in motion: the protocols for fighting the war against terror, the surge strategy, the timetables, and even, in Robert Gates and David Petraeus, some of his main appointees? Why couldn't the genius improve on the idiot's handiwork?
Maybe he isn't that bright.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/08/what-if-obama-isnt-so-smart (http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/08/what-if-obama-isnt-so-smart)
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Obama has always been a media creation put forth for the gullible idiots in the population.
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For members of TK and left-winged goofies to ponder:
What if Obama isn't so smart?
Eek! Another Republican moron is running for president, and the blogs on the Left are aghast.
Another village in Texas is missing its idiot!
Another s--t-kicking cowboy has messed with their heads.
The question this time is not just whether Texas Gov. Rick Perry is dumb -- the Left claims the obvious answer is yes -- but also whether he is as dumb as George W. Bush, or even much dumber, moronic where Bush was simply "incurious," and also much less gently bred.
Either way, few on the Left doubt that neither is, as Steve Benen says, "an intellectually curious, creative thinker, capable to examining [sic] complex issues in a sophisticated way."
Fortunately we have such a thinker, "capable to examining" things to perfection, and that is the problem: President Obama is their ideal of a thinker. He is president, and he has been -- how to put it? -- a bomb.
Based on results, Perry has been more successful as governor of Texas than Obama has been as president, or as anything else he has ever tried being, in the entire whole course of his life.
In 2008, Obama was hailed as a genius, a "first rate intellect," the smartest man to ever be president, and we know now the first part is true. He is the political genius who shed 30 points in his first years in office.
He's the political genius who blew up his coalition in his first months in office, who led his party to annihilation in the 2010 midterms (while showing utter indifference to the fate of congressional Democrats), and gave the Republicans -- who were on the floor, in a coma -- more than they needed to come roaring back from the dead.
He is the policy genius who "leads from behind," whose engagement ideas have gone nowhere, whose stimulus stimulated only the deficit, whose health care "success" helped kill off his recovery, and whose efforts to create jobs all fell flat.
Almost 40 percent of the new jobs that were created happened under Perry in Texas. Liberals who fault that state for its low levels of taxes and spending might ask themselves why, if it is a hellhole, so many people go there and stay there.
Many of them are fleeing states ruled by Democrats, which have high taxes, a strong union presence and a rich array of the programs that Democrats love.
If this is idiocy, we may want some more idiots, as Lincoln once asked for more drunks in his army, rather like Gen. Grant.
The bloggers fear that he may win a second term anyhow, as there may be a difference between being "too dumb to govern," (look at Bush, for example), and being "too dumb to win."
Kevin Drum at Mother Jones thinks Perry may be too dim for even the doltish American public, while Paul Waldman thinks otherwise. "The doltish candidates seem mostly on the Republican side," he writes in the American Prospect, while only Democrats have and/or treasure intelligence.
"So while there are many things to dislike about Perry, his tiny brain" might do him no harm. But the real examples of those who campaigned well and bombed afterward are Democrats, such as Obama and Carter, whose careers peaked on the day they took office and went steadily downhill from then on.
And if Obama is brilliant, and Bush is an imbecile, how come the genius kept most of the things the dolt set in motion: the protocols for fighting the war against terror, the surge strategy, the timetables, and even, in Robert Gates and David Petraeus, some of his main appointees? Why couldn't the genius improve on the idiot's handiwork?
Maybe he isn't that bright.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/08/what-if-obama-isnt-so-smart (http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/08/what-if-obama-isnt-so-smart)
great minimum wage jobs woo that's something to be proud of
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great minimum wage jobs woo that's something to be proud of
I suppose it would be better if they were unemployed?
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are you one of them that was complaining when the job numbers went up and all they could say is its the mcdonald jobs.can't have it both ways
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are you one of them that was complaining when the job numbers went up and all they could say is its the mcdonald jobs.can't have it both ways
Would rather people have a job, Mc Donalds or whatever than sitting idle collecting unemployment.
And as far as the way the government comes to their unemployment numbers, well its a bunch of horse shit
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Obama is slick, smart? I don't know...certainly a corporate sell-out though.
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WTF does it matter if Obama is so smart or not so smart? We don't need a very intelligent person in the WH. We need a person with leadership and the wisdom to make the right decisions. He can appoint as Many intelligent people as he wants.
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are you one of them that was complaining when the job numbers went up and all they could say is its the mcdonald jobs.can't have it both ways
Weren't you one of the ones, cheering when Obama "created" those 125,000 or so jobs a few months ago, when nearly HALF were these same jobs?
Besides, more people are moving to Texas, while they're fleeing New York (loaded with Obama-style policies) in droves.
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WTF does it matter if Obama is so smart or not so smart? We don't need a very intelligent person in the WH. We need a person with leadership and the wisdom to make the right decisions. He can appoint as Many intelligent people as he wants.
Agreed!!!
The point, of course, is that Obama was billed by left-winged goofies as being SOOOOOOOOOO smart, SOOOOOOOOO intellectual and far superior to his Texas-hick predecessor. He was supposed to solve all these problems (or, a good hunk of them, at least).
Now, the lefties are bringing up global warming, evolution, and every other issue, but the ONE that Obama was hired to fix: THE ECONOMY (and the jobs that accompany it).
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Agreed!!!
The point, of course, is that Obama was billed by left-winged goofies as being SOOOOOOOOOO smart, SOOOOOOOOO intellectual and far superior to his Texas-hick predecessor. He was supposed to solve all these problems (or, a good hunk of them, at least).
Now, the lefties are bringing up global warming, evolution, and every other issue, but the ONE that Obama was hired to fix: THE ECONOMY (and the jobs that accompany it).
The differerence between you and Ozmo is that Ozmo sees the truth and realises both parties suck and you still think the Republicans are the solution when they are exactly the same as the Democrats.
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WTF does it matter if Obama is so smart or not so smart? We don't need a very intelligent person in the WH. We need a person with leadership and the wisdom to make the right decisions. He can appoint as Many intelligent people as he wants.
Preach it, brotha Oz!
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Agreed!!!
The point, of course, is that Obama was billed by left-winged goofies as being SOOOOOOOOOO smart, SOOOOOOOOO intellectual and far superior to his Texas-hick predecessor. He was supposed to solve all these problems (or, a good hunk of them, at least).
Now, the lefties are bringing up global warming, evolution, and every other issue, but the ONE that Obama was hired to fix: THE ECONOMY (and the jobs that accompany it).
Yeah, I read that a lot here on this forum that the libs hail Obama as some genuis. I personally have never read or heard that, but I don't usually read stuff that would say that I guess. The impression I get from Obama is that he's intellectually arrogant. Those are the worse types. They think they have the answers for every thing and usually when applied to real life backfire lol.
BuSH was much smarter then poeple gave him credit for. Unfortunately he did something during his watch which will forever tarnish his presidency. And oddly enough the Iraq war won't be it.
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The differerence between you and Ozmo is that Ozmo sees the truth and realises both parties suck and you still think the Republicans are the solution when they are exactly the same as the Democrats.
The Republicans have sucked; hence, we have the Tea Party. But rather than branching off into a third party (ensuring we'll be suck with more Obama-ite politicians), they got smart and reformed the GOP FROM WITHIN.
The two Congressional seats the Dems won in special elections are a DIRECT result of a 3rd party running. But, it was the GOP establishment, running their guy, instead of going with the people's choice (which was the Tea Party guy).
Clean house from the inside out, and the GOP is back in business. The Tea Party success is a result of throwing out both liberals and RINOs/"moderates". That's why Huntsman stands no chance. All the liberal pundits think he's reasonable (i.e. he's a pushover, perhaps the only GOP guy that Obama can beat).
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The Republicans have sucked; hence, we have the Tea Party. But rather than branching off into a third party (ensuring we'll be suck with more Obama-ite politicians), they got smart and reformed the GOP FROM WITHIN.
The two Congressional seats the Dems won in special elections are a DIRECT result of a 3rd party running. But, it was the GOP establishment, running their guy, instead of going with the people's choice (which was the Tea Party guy).
Clean house from the inside out, and the GOP is back in business. The Tea Party success is a result of throwing out both liberals and RINOs/"moderates". That's why Huntsman stands no chance. All the liberal pundits think he's reasonable (i.e. he's a pushover, perhaps the only GOP guy that Obama can beat).
Are you endorsing Ron Paul? :o
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Are you endorsing Ron Paul? :o
NOPE!! At least two other candidates can match his economic policies but have him beaten COLD on the social issues.
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NOPE!! At least two other candidates can match his economic policies but have him beaten COLD on the social issues.
Yup, I really like Ron Paul as a presidential candidate, but I disagree with him on a few things:
More deregulation of the markets.
Allowing private business to decide whether or not to practice racial discrimination.
Allowing states to decide whether or not to re-define marriage.
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Yup, I really like Ron Paul as a presidential candidate, but I disagree with him on a few things:
More deregulation of the markets.
Allowing private business to decide whether or not to practice racial discrimination.
Allowing states to decide whether or not to re-define marriage.
That isn't really his stance, he wants the government out of the marriage business completely.
You want a federal law on marriage? ???
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That isn't really his stance, he wants the government out of the marriage business completely.
You want a federal law on marriage? ???
We already have one.
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We already have one.
Government should not be involved in marriage. It is a religious function.
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That isn't really his stance, he wants the government out of the marriage business completely.
You want a federal law on marriage? ???
Of the three I mentioned, you picked the one I care for the least. On one hand, I think if homos wanna get married, then let them. On the other hand, I think re-defining marriage is silly.
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Government should not be involved in marriage. It is a religious function.
They are by virtue of employment benefits, probate laws, etc.
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Government should not be involved in marriage. It is a religious function.
But, it's not SOLELY a religious function. And, therein lies the controversy.
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They are by virtue of employment benefits, probate laws, etc.
Get rid of them....that's why people get married anyway....
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Get rid of them....that's why people get married anyway....
Not quite. That certainly wasn't the reason I got hitched. It just comes with the territory.
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Get rid of them....that's why people get married anyway....
You cant get rid of probate laws.
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Not quite. That certainly wasn't the reason I got hitched. It just comes with the territory.
Good, then you would be happy to give up your government freebees since that was not the reason to begin with.
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Good, then you would be happy to give up your government freebees since that was not the reason to begin with.
I thought in the USA married people paid more taxes than single people, and married moms got no government benefits while single moms did.
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Good, then you would be happy to give up your government freebees since that was not the reason to begin with.
What "freebies"? There are no such things. All the government is doing is returning a portion of what was MINE and what belonged to my wife, in the first place.
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What "freebies"? There are no such things. All the government is doing is returning a portion of what was MINE and what belonged to my wife, in the first place.
I don't think married people should get extras that unmarried folk don't. It's just welfare.
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I don't think married people should get extras that unmarried folk don't. It's just welfare.
How are they getting anything? Are you under the impression that all the money belongs to the government? And that we should be damn glad they let us keep as much as they do?
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How are they getting anything? Are you under the impression that all the money belongs to the government? And that we should be damn glad they let us keep as much as they do?
No, I just don't think people should be privileged because they are married.
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No, I just don't think people should be privileged because they are married.
I have no problem with the government encouraging marriage. It's one of the foundations of our society.