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Lately when i close my hands they feel pretty tight and change colour to white and red..like they are swollen y know and "pumped"..
Im eating pretty shitty lately could this be water retention?
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Did you ever get more blood work done?
Are you on any thyroid meds?...or any meds whatsoever? What about "supplements?"
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Do you have any of these symptoms that you know of?
Group 1
Cleft palate
Hypothyroidism
Choanal atresia
Spiky hair
Divided epiglottis
Excess amniotic fluid
Abnormal thyroid
Mental retardation
Small jaw
Twisted hair shaft
Sparse scalp hair
Absent scalp hair
Group 2
Shortness of breath
Hardened skin
Tight skin
Finger ulcers
Lung damage
Gastrointestinal tract damage
Kidney damage
High blood pressure
Hardening of blood vessels
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Do you have any of these symptoms that you know of?
Spiky hair
Excess amniotic fluid
Mental retardation
LOL @ these ... sorry .. no offense intended
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Group 3
Vague symptoms
Thyroid deficiency
Sluggishness
Tiredness
Slow speech
Hoarseness
Cold sensitivity
Depression
Forgetfulness
Dry hair
Dry skin
Reduced appetite
Constipation
Increased menstrual flow
Goitre
Lump at front of neck
Hand paresthesias
Foot paresthesias
Myxedema
(left increased menstrual flow in there just to show I;ve been listing all possible symptoms :) )
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Specifically, hypothyroidism may lead to:
Muscle aches, tenderness and stiffness, especially in the shoulders and hips
Joint pain and stiffness
Swelling of the knee joint and small joints in the hands and feetCarpal tunnel syndrome
(from mayoclinic.com)
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Lately when i close my hands they feel pretty tight and change colour to white and red..like they are swollen y know and "pumped"..
Im eating pretty shitty lately could this be water retention?
Food allergy?
"Could" also be a circulation issue.
Do you feel any pain or cramping in the hands?
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Do you have any of these symptoms that you know of?
Group 1
Cleft palate
Hypothyroidism
Choanal atresia
Spiky hair
Divided epiglottis
Excess amniotic fluid
Abnormal thyroid
Mental retardation
Small jaw
Twisted hair shaft
Sparse scalp hair
Absent scalp hair
Group 2
Shortness of breath
Hardened skin
Tight skin
Finger ulcers
Lung damage
Gastrointestinal tract damage
Kidney damage
High blood pressure
Hardening of blood vessels
What in the F**K does that have to do with anything?
ROFLMFAO!!!
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What in the F**K does that have to do with anything?
ROFLMFAO!!!
I guess it must be a common trait of one of the disorders that has 3 of the other symptoms Mezo posted.
Maybe there's something to do w/how hair is affected by the thyroid or something? I don't know, I'm not a doctor...I just play one on the interwebz!
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I guess it must be a common trait of one of the disorders that has 3 of the other symptoms Mezo posted.
Maybe there's something to do w/how hair is affected by the thyroid or something? I don't know, I'm not a doctor...I just play one on the interwebz!
holy crap ive never seen u like this butterbean :o
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Do you have any of these symptoms that you know of?
Group 1
Cleft palate
Hypothyroidism
Choanal atresia
Spiky hair
Divided epiglottis
Excess amniotic fluid
Abnormal thyroid
Mental retardation
Small jaw
Twisted hair shaft
Sparse scalp hair
Absent scalp hair
Group 2
Shortness of breath
Hardened skin
Tight skin
Finger ulcers
Lung damage
Gastrointestinal tract damage
Kidney damage
High blood pressure
Hardening of blood vessels
yes yes i think he belongs in group 1 haha
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yes yes i think he belongs in group 1 haha
;D
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I guess it must be a common trait of one of the disorders that has 3 of the other symptoms Mezo posted.
Maybe there's something to do w/how hair is affected by the thyroid or something? I don't know, I'm not a doctor...I just play one on the interwebz!
You can be pretty funny sometimes sunsine.. ;D
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I want to add smthing....not "hands" I mean my fingers/tips..
rip. ;D
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I want to add smthing....not "hands" I mean my fingers/tips..
rip. ;D
Is it in both hands?
Are there spots or any signs of pus?
It may be an infection of some type.
Honestly, do a Google search on things like Scleroderma, or even something as general as swollen fingertips.
Read through the symptoms & look for any correlations with what you've got.
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BTW - if your hand begins to resemble anything like this, see a doc very soon:
(http://img.medscape.com/pi/emed/ckb/vascular_surgery/459840-459841-462289-462362.jpg)
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Is it in both hands?
Are there spots or any signs of pus?
It may be an infection of some type.
Honestly, do a Google search on things like Scleroderma, or even something as general as swollen fingertips.
Read through the symptoms & look for any correlations with what you've got.
What kind of doctor should i visit? reumatolist or someone who specializes in vessels?
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What kind of doctor should i visit? reumatolist or someone who specializes in vessels?
A PCP/general Dr. “should” have a decent-to-good idea where to send you for testing based on your symptoms.
If your indications resemble some type of skin infection, you may get a referral to a dermatologist.
If a circulation issue is suspected, you may need to visit an ultrasound lab that does peripheral vascular testing. They’ll probably do an upper extremity arterial exam to look for occlusions, etc. and then send the results to a vascular doc.
Are you by chance diabetic?
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A PCP/general Dr. “should” have a decent-to-good idea where to send you for testing based on your symptoms.
If your indications resemble some type of skin infection, you may get a referral to a dermatologist.
If a circulation issue is suspected, you may need to visit an ultrasound lab that does peripheral vascular testing. They’ll probably do an upper extremity arterial exam to look for occlusions, etc. and then send the results to a vascular doc.
Are you by chance diabetic?
no im not..
hmmive looked it up with butterbeans help and it seems to me its scleroderma/raynauds syndrome..those 2 go hand to hand.
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no im not..
hmmive looked it up with butterbeans help and it seems to me its scleroderma/raynauds syndrome..those 2 go hand to hand.
Okay.
Whether it’s atherosclerosis-related or not, upper-extremity occlusive disease is somewhat rare.
Digital ischemia (pic. above) is common in the toes, but the upper limbs have more collateral vessels that can kick in and act as compensatory mechanisms for necessary circulation.
Of course, nobody can accurately diagnose either way based only on the info here, but I really doubt that's what you have.
Good luck.
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A PCP/general Dr. “should” have a decent-to-good idea where to send you for testing based on your symptoms.
I told him he needs a 2nd opinion since his current doc seems dismissive of his symptoms.
Not sure if his healthcare requires a rec. from a doc to get into a specialist or not.
Yes, Mezo sclero looks to be very rare so lets get to a new doc and get it ruled out :)
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I told him he needs a 2nd opinion since his current doc seems dismissive of his symptoms.
Not sure if his healthcare requires a rec. from a doc to get into a specialist or not.
Yes, Mezo sclero looks to be very rare so lets get to a new doc and get it ruled out :)
Oh, it could be sclerodoma for all I know.
In my post, I meant I doubt that the pathology is arterial-related.
Although, thinking about it more, I wonder if the problem could be venous.
Honestly, I don't know enough about it (and I won't bullshit you, either), but we run upper extremity venous tests for thrombus on people who present with swollen HANDS and/or ARMS.
But, I've never seen someone come in with only swollen fingertips.
I'm not saying it doesn't or can't happen; only that I, personally, have never seen it.
But, don't rely on me.
Go get that second opinion!
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Oh, it could be sclerodoma for all I know.
In my post, I meant I doubt that the pathology is arterial-related.
Although, thinking about it more, I wonder if the problem could be venous.
Honestly, I don't know enough about it (and I won't bullshit you, either), but we run upper extremity venous tests for thrombus on people who present with swollen HANDS and/or ARMS.
But, I've never seen someone come in with only swollen fingertips.
I'm not saying it doesn't or can't happen; only that I, personally, have never seen it.
But, don't rely on me.
Go get that second opinion!
They are not that swollen...as in blown up lol..
They are reddish in the fingertips and when i close my fist or touch the fingertip and squeeze it with my other hand it goes from red to white..like its swollen/high blood pressure.
Thats not the real problem for me since i believe its mostly due to high sodium food i eat lately and shitty eating in the holidays...
My main prob is the other thread I had som etime ago about cold chills and how my face responds to cold (gets blue and my mouth a bit numb)..I had it for 4 yrs as i remember.
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They are not that swollen...as in blown up lol..
They are reddish in the fingertips and when i close my fist or touch the fingertip and squeeze it with my other hand it goes from red to white..like its swollen/high blood pressure.
Thats not the real problem for me since i believe its mostly due to high sodium food i eat lately and shitty eating in the holidays...
My main prob is the other thread I had som etime ago about cold chills and how my face responds to cold (gets blue and my mouth a bit numb)..I had it for 4 yrs as i remember.
Hmm...that's interesting.
I'm afraid I can't offer much input there.
It may be a circulatory issue, but it's honestly next to impossible to say from where I'm sitting.
If it bothers you or worsens, I would seek out a variety of specialists.
Do as much research as you can on your own to establish a starting point.
Good luck!
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They are reddish in the fingertips and when i close my fist or touch the fingertip and squeeze it with my other hand it goes from red to white..like its swollen/high blood pressure.
Mine do this too. I think it may be normal. But like I told you, I have Raynaud's (Primary) as well.
Maybe someone w/o Raynaud's could perform the above and post the results.
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Mine do this too. I think it may be normal. But like I told you, I have Raynaud's (Primary) as well.
Maybe someone w/o Raynaud's could perform the above and post the results.
Now I feel better.. :)
Now, the cold sensitivity... I remember having it from 15-16 yrs old...
Once I was on my bike when I was 15 and all of a sudden without noticind is..I lost sense of my left arm and fell off the bike..stood up and my friend told me "is everything ok?"...my whole arm was numb....like dead and I remember that I couldnt speak..my tongue got numb for seconds...I just did "blah blah" couldnt talk...it all started from there i think. minutes after this i was ok. That day was VERY cold.
Im still frightened when i recall it.. maybe it was a stroke?
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Now I feel better.. :)
:)
Now, the cold sensitivity... I remember having it from 15-16 yrs old...
I was always the kid that had to go sit in the car and warm up while snow sledding. ::)
I used to get hives a lot when I got cold. Face, knees, hands, feet, butt etc. Not sure about your whole arm going numb though.
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:)
I was always the kid that had to go sit in the car and warm up while snow sledding. ::)
I used to get hives a lot when I got cold. Face, knees, hands, feet, butt etc. Not sure about your whole arm going numb though.
I guess were special.. ;D :)
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I guess were special.. ;D :)
;D 8)
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its retention from the gear man dont worry we all get it especially when you wake up in the morning, or when you drink alcohol its 2x worst!
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its retention from the gear man dont worry we all get it especially when you wake up in the morning, or when you drink alcohol its 2x worst!
this. 5ius of gear ed does that to me. got it all day everyday, no problem. just a reminder that my shit is g2g.
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Mezo, I was reading about food poisoning recently...do you think it's possible you could be allergic to some stuff (food/food additives) including MSG?
Allergic symptoms (facial flushing, itching) occur
Less than 1 h
Headache, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, peppery taste, burning of throat, facial swelling and flushing, stomach pain, itching of skin. Histamine (scombroid)
Numbness around mouth, tingling sensation, flushing, dizziness, headache, nausea. Monosodium glutamate
Flushing, sensation of warmth, itching, abdominal pain, puffing of face and knees. Nicotinic acid
www.fda.gov
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Mezo, I was reading about food poisoning recently...do you think it's possible you could be allergic to some stuff (food/food additives) including MSG?
Allergic symptoms (facial flushing, itching) occur
Less than 1 h
Headache, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, peppery taste, burning of throat, facial swelling and flushing, stomach pain, itching of skin. Histamine (scombroid)
Numbness around mouth, tingling sensation, flushing, dizziness, headache, nausea. Monosodium glutamate
Flushing, sensation of warmth, itching, abdominal pain, puffing of face and knees. Nicotinic acid
www.fda.gov
Sometimes I get cold feet and hands and/or face changes colour when I eat.
I im having an appointment with a doc this week..
Also Im considering giving some blood as I have high hematocrit levels...it might eases the symptoms..Im going to try and see.
What about CoQ10 Butterbean, is it useful enough for circulation issues or doesnt do sh#t?
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Sometimes I get cold feet and hands and/or face changes colour when I eat.
I im having an appointment with a doc this week..
Also Im considering giving some blood as I have high hematocrit levels...it might eases the symptoms..Im going to try and see.
What about CoQ10 Butterbean, is it useful enough for circulation issues or doesnt do sh#t?
I don't really know anything about it..... Princess or Montague might have some answers.
Maybe try to remember to mention to the doc about the poss. of allergies to food/food additives...hope your appt. provides some answers!
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I don't really know anything about it..... Princess or Montague might have some answers.
Maybe try to remember to mention to the doc about the poss. of allergies to food/food additives...hope your appt. provides some answers!
I will let you know personally since you helped me alot..and calmed me down. :)
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I will let you know personally since you helped me alot..and calmed me down. :)
:D ;D :) Thanks Meso.
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Sometimes I get cold feet and hands and/or face changes colour when I eat.
I im having an appointment with a doc this week..
Also Im considering giving some blood as I have high hematocrit levels...it might eases the symptoms..Im going to try and see.
What about CoQ10 Butterbean, is it useful enough for circulation issues or doesnt do sh#t?
I found this stuff to be very helpful in the winter with the Reynaud's
(http://di1-3.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/68/15/02/43730993-260x260-0-0_Standard+Process+Standard+Process+Niacinamide+B6+4.jpg)
Standard Process isn't a brand you want to go around experimenting with. Practitioners are trained and have tools to correctly dose their products based on symptoms. It's a holistic approach.
It might be helpful to find a medical professional who is certified to sell Standard Process rather than a "run of the mill" M.D.
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I found this stuff to be very helpful in the winter with the Reynaud's
(http://di1-3.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/68/15/02/43730993-260x260-0-0_Standard+Process+Standard+Process+Niacinamide+B6+4.jpg)
Standard Process isn't a brand you want to go around experimenting with. Practitioners are trained and have tools to correctly dose their products based on symptoms. It's a holistic approach.
It might be helpful to find a medical professional who is certified to sell Standard Process rather than a "run of the mill" M.D.
"Her Highness" has expensive tastes:
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"Her Highness" has expensive tastes:
Standard Process is a top notch company.
All of their products are certified organic and whole food based.
Read a little about them here http://www.standardprocess.com/display/displayFile.aspx?docid=766&filename=/Public/Lit/Brochures/aboutstandardprocessL2600.pdf
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Standard Process is a top notch company.
All of their products are certified organic and whole food based.
Read a little about them here http://www.standardprocess.com/display/displayFile.aspx?docid=766&filename=/Public/Lit/Brochures/aboutstandardprocessL2600.pdf
The only product of theirs I’ve tried is Ligaplex ii; that was quite a while ago.
I purchased it through a chiropractor who was treating me at the time, and I was not impressed with it.
I would never make a blanket statement about a company based on one experience with one product, but at the same time, I’m not eager to try anything else from them until I learn & KNOW more it.
It sounds as though you’ve had good luck, so I may consult you on this in the future. ;)
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So I went to the reumatologist..
He diagnosed me with raynauds..
He has me do some blood work and get back to him next week..no prescription drugs given to me.
Fuck my life. :-X :-\ ;D