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Title: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 26, 2011, 08:46:12 PM
After a lunch speech today, Ron Paul slammed the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, and said that no national response to Hurricane Irene is necessary.

“We should be like 1900; we should be like 1940, 1950, 1960,” Paul said. “I live on the gulf coast, we deal with hurricanes all the time. Galveston is in my district."

Galveston, circa 1900, when a hurricane killed somewhere between 6,000 and 12,000 people. Here's how they dealt with it:

The dead bodies were so numerous that burying them all was not possible. The dead were initially weighted down and dumped at sea, but when the gulf currents washed many of the bodies back onto the beach, a new solution was needed. Funeral pyres were set up wherever the dead were found and burned for weeks after the storm. The authorities passed out free whiskey to sustain the distraught men conscripted for the gruesome work of collecting and burning the dead.

Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2011, 09:21:47 PM
Bad ass. 
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 26, 2011, 11:11:40 PM
he's probably right.  They fuck up more shit than they get right.  It might be better left to the state governments to handle.  The national guard should be at home for shit like this and the governor can use them for emergencies like this.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: chadstallion on August 27, 2011, 05:45:07 AM
and there goes his chances...if he ever had any to begin with...
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 27, 2011, 06:00:06 AM
and there goes his chances...if he ever had any to begin with...
why would you say that?  A few years ago Dems were calling Fema useless.  Now under Obama it's all good lol?
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: blacken700 on August 27, 2011, 06:02:11 AM
it's like anything else it's who you put in charge to run the show
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Fury on August 27, 2011, 07:11:16 AM
Their track record is pretty abysmal. Maybe more money can fix it. After all, that's the tried-and-true Keynesian answer to everything!
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 27, 2011, 07:20:58 AM
withou fema, who would run all the obama camps?  he has to lock up all the bald white 'potential terrorists' a week before election so they can't vote madoff/Vandersloot into office.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 27, 2011, 07:26:37 AM
The dead bodies were so numerous that burying them all was not possible. The dead were initially weighted down and dumped at sea, but when the gulf currents washed many of the bodies back onto the beach, a new solution was needed. Funeral pyres were set up wherever the dead were found and burned for weeks after the storm. The authorities passed out free whiskey to sustain the distraught men conscripted for the gruesome work of collecting and burning the dead.

As much as I love Ron Paul, and he is absolutely right.  Are society of human vaginas couldn't handle this^^^.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Dos Equis on August 27, 2011, 11:53:48 AM
and there goes his chances...if he ever had any to begin with...

Never had any, but stuff like this does not help. 
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 27, 2011, 12:01:20 PM
After a lunch speech today, Ron Paul slammed the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, and said that no national response to Hurricane Irene is necessary.

“We should be like 1900; we should be like 1940, 1950, 1960,” Paul said. “I live on the gulf coast, we deal with hurricanes all the time. Galveston is in my district."

Galveston, circa 1900, when a hurricane killed somewhere between 6,000 and 12,000 people. Here's how they dealt with it:

The dead bodies were so numerous that burying them all was not possible. The dead were initially weighted down and dumped at sea, but when the gulf currents washed many of the bodies back onto the beach, a new solution was needed. Funeral pyres were set up wherever the dead were found and burned for weeks after the storm. The authorities passed out free whiskey to sustain the distraught men conscripted for the gruesome work of collecting and burning the dead.



Where is this story from?
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 27, 2011, 12:18:23 PM
Where is this story from?

DU
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Skip8282 on August 28, 2011, 11:57:00 AM
it's like anything else it's who you put in charge to run the show


Spot on.  Brown was a complete political appointee, in no way qualified to run FEMA, and should never have been there to begin with.  Total fuckup by Bush putting him there.



As much as I love Ron Paul, and he is absolutely right.  Are society of human vaginas couldn't handle this^^^.


Yea, that's called progress.  No wait, let's do like they did in 1900 - those were such good years.  ::)
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 28, 2011, 12:00:46 PM
Turns out ron paul was right.  This was the most overhyped bs in decades.

Thank god bama skipped his last game of golf to get a hold of this.  I was worried that wo his strong leadership we were not going to make it.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 28, 2011, 06:02:54 PM
Yea, that's called progress.  No wait, let's do like they did in 1900 - those were such good years.  ::)

No, I want the federal government to take care of me... Fucking parasite  ::)
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Skip8282 on August 28, 2011, 06:31:59 PM
No, I want the federal government to take care of me... Fucking parasite  ::)


Yeah, making sure 12000 dead bodies aren't lying around the city and having "conscripted" men toss them onto make-shift pyres is soooo parasitic.  ::)

Good thing as an RP follower you're keeping the irony going.  Advocating using "conscripted" men while advocating less government and more freedom.  Idiot.

You Paultards really take ridiculous to whole new levels.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: tonymctones on August 28, 2011, 07:39:24 PM
No, I want the federal government to take care of me... Fucking parasite  ::)
perfect example of the idiocy you displayed in foreign policy debate...

simply b/c someone doesnt agree with paul 100% doesnt mean they are 100% against it...

for fucks sake do you ppl understand that?
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 28, 2011, 08:14:34 PM
You two socialists should move to Europe, leave the men to live their lives.

Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 29, 2011, 07:19:02 AM
Turns out ron paul was right.  This was the most overhyped bs in decades.

Thank god bama skipped his last game of golf to get a hold of this.  I was worried that wo his strong leadership we were not going to make it.

Over 7 Billion dollars in damage, 25 people killed so far and rising.  It may not be the worst of all time but it was still pretty bad, and widespread throughout the entire East Coast on top of that.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2011, 07:21:01 AM
Over 7 Billion dollars in damage, 25 people killed so far and rising.  It may not be the worst of all time but it was still pretty bad, and widespread throughout the entire East Coast on top of that.

No shit genius - I live in NYC and was told this was going to be like Day after Tommorow. 

We had some storms about two years ago far worse than this locally. 

   
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: OzmO on August 29, 2011, 07:28:37 AM
"overhyping" One of the media's national pastimes.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2011, 09:27:47 AM
"overhyping" One of the media's national pastimes.

You don't think millions of americans without electricity for days or weeks is a "big deal" which is disruptive to our country?

I remember how life for this entire half of the state STOPPED for 7 days after Hurricane Charlie.  Surely millions or even billions of $ lost - from the power alone, not even counting minor cosmetic damage to houses.

And yes, Home Depot, Lowe's and the Media loooooooves these events. 

But if you are about to lose power for a week, it's a big deal.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: loco on August 29, 2011, 02:04:55 PM
"Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA"

Neither do the Amish.  After a disaster, they always turn down government assistance.  Their entire community helps one another rebuild, and they do that very quickly. 
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2011, 02:06:43 PM
"Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA"

Neither do the Amish.  After a disaster, they always turn down government assistance.  Their entire community helps one another rebuild, and they do that very quickly. 

Didnt you get the memo - we all need to be welfare bums and lemmings under the nanny state.

   
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Dos Equis on August 29, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
"Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA"

Neither do the Amish.  After a disaster, they always turn down government assistance.  Their entire community helps one another rebuild, and they do that very quickly. 

Yeah, although they are a very small community.  You can do a lot with small communities that you cannot do with large ones. 
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
"Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA"

Neither do the Amish.  After a disaster, they always turn down government assistance.  Their entire community helps one another rebuild, and they do that very quickly. 
Socialism at its finest.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: loco on August 29, 2011, 03:05:26 PM
Yeah, although they are a very small community.  You can do a lot with small communities that you cannot do with large ones. 

You'd think it would be the other way around.  More people = more help.    :-\
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: loco on August 29, 2011, 03:08:41 PM
Socialism at its finest.

It is actually quite the opposite: hard working people, no government handouts, no government intervention, no welfare, everyone works(children, teens, adults, elderly), no such thing as retirement.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
It is actually quite the opposite: hard working people, no government handouts, no government intervention, no welfare, everyone works(children, teens, adults, elderly), no such thing as retirement.
Thats Socialism.  True Socialism concentrates all power and resources to the hands of the people.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: loco on August 29, 2011, 03:39:40 PM
Thats Socialism.  True Socialism concentrates all power and resources to the hands of the people.

If that were true, are you telling me that the Amish are the only ones who have managed to make Socialism work?  Where has it not failed before?  Any examples?  It is failing big time in Europe.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: headhuntersix on August 29, 2011, 03:47:43 PM
I don't know..they sorta run like one big corporation. Ever see their furniture. They hired an all amish crew to build a house in the sub division, half the time of a usual house. It appears to be capitalism at its finest.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: loco on August 29, 2011, 03:51:41 PM
I don't know..they sorta run like one big corporation. Ever see their furniture. They hired an all amish crew to build a house in the sub division, half the time of a usual house. It appears to be capitalism at its finest.

Yup, I hear they do great construction work, very quickly and for a fare price.  And that if you don't pay them after the work is done, they will come back and tear down everything they built and take it back with them.  No joke!
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2011, 04:11:06 PM
If that were true, are you telling me that the Amish are the only ones who have managed to make Socialism work?  Where has it not failed before?  Any examples?  It is failing big time in Europe.
Sewer Socialism in Milwaukee from 1898-1960.  (although different from the Amish of course)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewer_Socialism
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Dos Equis on August 29, 2011, 04:36:11 PM
You'd think it would be the other way around.  More people = more help.    :-\

More people = more folks with different value systems, lawlessness, looting, etc.  Just look at Katrina and what can happen to a major city after a large scale disaster.  You had people leaving old folks in nursing homes to drown.   :-\
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 29, 2011, 04:40:28 PM
Could I get a direct link. I've never heard him say something like what you posted.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Dos Equis on August 29, 2011, 04:46:01 PM
Look at the pictures they chose.  Hacks.  lol

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/08/29/sanders.paul.aug29.jpg)
Bernie Sanders on Ron Paul: He's 'out to lunch'
By: CNN Political Unit

(CNN) - Democratic Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont criticized Texas Rep. Ron Paul on Monday for blasting the Federal Emergency Management Agency as a useless entity.
"I like Ron Paul, but on these issues, he's completely out to lunch," Sanders told CNN's Wolf Blitzer, anchor of "The Situation Room."

The Republican presidential candidate made headlines when he said on the campaign trail Friday that Americans are capable of recovering from natural disasters without the help of FEMA.

"All they do is come in and tell you what to do and can't do," Paul said. "You can't get in your houses. And they hinder the local people, and they hinder volunteers from going in."

But Sanders, whose state is experiencing mass flooding and power outages in the aftermath of Hurricane Irene, said FEMA is on the ground in Vermont.

He argued now is the time for the country to come together.

"We are a nation. We are not 50 individual states," Sanders said. "Vermont stands with other states when they're in trouble, and other states stand with us. That's what being a nation is about."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/29/bernie-sanders-on-ron-paul-hes-out-to-lunch/#more-172822
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2011, 05:17:11 PM
I don't know..they sorta run like one big corporation. Ever see their furniture. They hired an all amish crew to build a house in the sub division, half the time of a usual house. It appears to be capitalism at its finest.
They are a closed society and anything economic they do benefits them as a group, their group.  Their furniture is well made, but plain.  I have a table and chairs made by the Amish.  High Quality.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Skip8282 on August 29, 2011, 07:06:47 PM
It is actually quite the opposite: hard working people, no government handouts, no government intervention, no welfare, everyone works(children, teens, adults, elderly), no such thing as retirement.




Actually, it's really hard to group them.  We have a lot around us and some will see a doctor, some won't, some shop at the malls, some don't, some will sell you their stuff, some won't.  Probably have to be a sociologist or something to figure them out - but they definitely don't all fit the "mold", if you will.
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: Skip8282 on August 29, 2011, 07:13:15 PM
You two socialists should move to Europe, leave the men to live their lives.




:D



Not feeling any luv from you...
Title: Re: With Hurricane Irene ready to strike, Ron Paul says we don't need FEMA
Post by: whork25 on August 30, 2011, 09:58:37 AM
If that were true, are you telling me that the Amish are the only ones who have managed to make Socialism work?  Where has it not failed before?  Any examples?  It is failing big time in Europe.

True socialism has never existed. The purpose of the revolution is to give the people the power when the conflict is over. But the communist party never let over power to the people. Who would...