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FOR 12 WEEKS?
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z437/TestosteroneNation/LiveSpill%20Images/Reader%20Photos/meadows1.jpg)
OR 800 FOR 24 WEEKS?
THIS IS WHAT FUCKIN PISSES ME OFF..IF U GUYS KNOW HIM AND WHERE HE WRITES, HE WRITES GOOD SHIT BUT HIS PRICES ARE INSANE AND THE SUPPLEMENTS HE RECOMMENDS ARE FUCKING ANNOYING.
MAG-10(THE PROTEIN POWDER NOT STEROID) IS WHAT HE ATTRIBUTED TO IMPROVEMENTS. ITS THE NOT THE DOSAGE INCREASE?
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Probably get more for your money through this guy than the thousands you'd pay this kunt and her team of shills.
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if im paying anything more then $200 a year for advice... it better include a solid Source for gear with a coupon discount from this guru
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if im paying anything more then $200 a year for advice... it better include a solid Source for gear with a coupon discount from this guru
THESE GURUS ARE DRUG SOURCES TOO...THEYLL RECOMMEND U A SOURCE, TALK TO THE SOURCE AND TELL THEM UR FROM THIS GURU, U GET A MINOR HOOK UP.
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Probably get more for your money through this guy than the thousands you'd pay this kunt and her team of shills.
Yeah but she has a vag, is most likely less shady, and prob cockteases you enough to delusionaly think you have a chance and keep paying her :-\
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Well, I guess you can be mad at him; however, should you be more mad at him OR the people who pay him? He throws out a price and people pay him. Shit, if I looked like him, I would do the same. Why not make money off your physique (no G4P)? If he can draw in that kind of money, good for him!
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400 is cheap compared to some.......
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THESE GURUS ARE DRUG SOURCES TOO...THEYLL RECOMMEND U A SOURCE, TALK TO THE SOURCE AND TELL THEM UR FROM THIS GURU, U GET A MINOR HOOK UP.
if that's true, then it's not bad, if he'll take on the risk of overseas shipping and have it delivered to you. i guess $400 is just a risk fee, which is understandable.
p.s. i realize this guy isn't promoting himself as a drug source, we're all just guessing here.
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Insane vascularity. Must know a thing or two. Who is he?
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hes not helping you out with "Bodybuilding" bodybuilding as the actual sport of weightlifting ain't that hard to learn, no he will help you with steroid advice ;)
Which you can get for free from GH15
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Insane vascularity. Must know a thing or two. Who is he?
x2. Great legs! Tier 4. :)
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JOHN MEADOWS.
BTW, THE GEAR SOURCES ARE ALL DOMESTIC.
ALL PREP GURUS ARE DRUG PUSHERS TO A DEGREE, OR REALLY MOSTLY.
I KNOW ABOUT 6-7 GUYS USING A VARIETY...ALL OF THEM HAVE SUGGESTED DRUGS. I KNOW 3 GUYS USING ALEX AZARIAN, 2 SHELBY, 1 MEADOWS AND 1 MATT KROC. GH15 IS EXPOSING THEM ALL REALLY.
$400 IS CHEAP BUT FOR 12 WEEKS? TO AN AVERAGE JOE? THE SAME JOES HERE THAT STRUGGLE TO GET 3 KITS OF GH WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS?
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Most of these online prep guys aren't drug sources, there are just gullible idiots out there that will pay 400-1200 or whatever because they are too insecure to do their own prep.
Now at the high level like Haney, etc maybe there.
NO, BELIEVE ME. THEY'LL SAY DO X DIET, X TRAINING, X CARDIO BUT IF U WANT BETTER RESULTS THERE'S CLEN, T3, TEST, MASTERON, ETC. IN ADDITION THATLL GET U THERE FASTER.(ASSUMING UR CUTTING)
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weightlifting ain't that hard to learn
Apparently it has been for you. Weightlifting is a sport, as in Olympic weightlifting. What bodybuilders (and a majority of you) do is weight train (progressive resistance training).
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Apparently it has been for you. Weightlifting is a sport, as in Olympic weightlifting. What bodybuilders (and a majority of you) do is weight train (progressive resistance training).
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How do you know? You never seen me train nor have you seen me period.
Weightlifting was pretty simple before people saw a way to make money with it, now its a million training plans all promise something different - its ridicules.
Lift hard but smart for 45min a day 4 days a week - how hard to learn can that be?
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How do you know? You never seen me train nor have you seen me period.
Weightlifting was pretty simple before people saw a way to make money with it, now its a million training plans all promise something different - its ridicules.
Lift hard but smart for 45min a day 4 days a week - how hard to learn can that be?
Fair enough, but ... you're missing my point. Weightlifting is a sport, and I doubt you compete in this sport or actively pursue advancement in it. Does your training focus on the snatch and clean and jerk lifts?
Olympic lifting (weightlifting) is HIGHLY technical. I have been weight training and powerlifting (and have competed as both a bodybuilder and a powerlifter) for over two decades. I know a lot about the sport of weightlifting, but I have never trained in the style (except for fucking around here and there) and know zero about training to compete as one.
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Fair enough, but ... you're missing my point. Weightlifting is a sport, and I doubt you compete in this sport or actively pursue advancement in it. Does your training focus on the snatch and clean and jerk lifts?
Olympic lifting (weightlifting) is HIGHLY technical. I have been weight training and powerlifting (and have competed as both a bodybuilder and a powerlifter) for over two decades. I know a lot about the sport of weightlifting, but I have never trained in the style (except for fucking around here and there) and know zero about training to compete as one.
What I meant to say is - Want to play Basketball or icehockey well you need to train quite a bit and need at least a bit of talent.
Now lets not kid ourself here, lifting weights isn't really that hard to learn nor do you need to have an acual talent to do it - obviously when you want to go beyond just lifting weights is a completly different matter but we are talking about the raw sport of weightlifting - the stuff that 99% of people do (including myself).
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What I meant to say is - Want to play Basketball or icehockey well you need to train quite a bit and need at least a bit of talent.
Now lets not kid ourself here, lifting weights isn't really that hard to learn nor do you need to have an acual talent to do it - obviously when you want to go beyond just lifting weights is a completly different matter but we are talking about the raw sport of weightlifting - the stuff that 99% of people do (including myself).
The "raw sport of weightlifting" is practiced by almost no one who engages in weight training. To "lift a weight" as almost all who walk into a gym do, is to, again, engage in weight training.
And lifting weights for health, fitness and muscular gain is indeed a tough skill, judging from the multitudes of knobs I have seen during the past two decades of training in commercial gyms.
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Yeah but she has a vag, is most likely less shady, and prob cockteases you enough to delusionaly think you have a chance and keep paying her :-\
shes a lesbo.
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if you arent taller than the lockers then you shouldnt bodybuild
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He really is embarassingly short. :(
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FOR 12 WEEKS?
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z437/TestosteroneNation/LiveSpill%20Images/Reader%20Photos/meadows1.jpg)
OR 800 FOR 24 WEEKS?
THIS IS WHAT FUCKIN PISSES ME OFF..IF U GUYS KNOW HIM AND WHERE HE WRITES, HE WRITES GOOD SHIT BUT HIS PRICES ARE INSANE AND THE SUPPLEMENTS HE RECOMMENDS ARE FUCKING ANNOYING.
MAG-10(THE PROTEIN POWDER NOT STEROID) IS WHAT HE ATTRIBUTED TO IMPROVEMENTS. ITS THE NOT THE DOSAGE INCREASE?
if you dont know a lot about prep and dieting then it's 400$ well spent.
think of it as going to school for 3 months- whatever you learn you can re- apply time and again and always get the same result.
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lol he s shorter than fucking swede it seems... wonder why he s taking steroids ::)
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shes a lesbo.
Ok but she's still got a vag though right?
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if you dont know a lot about prep and dieting then it's 400$ well spent.
think of it as going to school for 3 months- whatever you learn you can re- apply time and again and always get the same result.
PREP WISE YES, BUT IM TALKIN EVERYDAY JOES. IS THIS EXPENSIVE TO GET SOUND ADVICE?
FUNNY THING IS THAT SKIP HILL GUYS CHARGES TRIPLE OF THIS GUY AND LOOKS FAR,FAR WORSE.
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it looks like if he wanted too... he could hide inside that locker
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it looks like if he wanted too... he could hide inside that locker
LOL.
DUDE'S GOT GOOD ARTICLES THOUGH, REALLY INSIGHTFUL STUFF. BUT THAT ENTIRE SITE IS SO FULL OF SHIT.THE 6 WEEK SUPPLY OF IGF3 IS THE EQUIVALENT OF 4 KITS OF GH THAT CAN LAST MUCH LONGER.
U GOT PEOPLE SACRIFICING A LOT TO PAY FOR HIS SERVICES OR SHELBYS, IG3, AND THEIR WHOLE ANACONDA PROTOCOL. ITS LIKE HOW MUCH A REAL BODYBUILDER SACRIFICES ON THE WAY TO THE TOP OF THE IFBB PROS WITH GEAR.
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So how tall is this guy? lbs?
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So how tall is this guy? lbs?
4.5 inches
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john meadows is a very good writer and one of the proably best trainers out there. Its just the industry you can get all of his info for free really though from youtube and article he writes them pics dont do him justice he has monster thighs. He has worked with bboy i belive and dave tate and many well known people look at his you tube videos. It might be mountain dog training he has very unique training ideas.
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THATS ALL
Whether he is a "Guru" or not is in question but thIs guy is a Moron for charging so little
I don't know jack shit but I would at least charge 1500 for 12 weeks
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For the reality of my country, it sounds very cheap in deed..
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He really is embarassingly short. :(
Shit, I am short, but this dude looks shorter than me! :o :o
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So how tall is this guy? lbs?
He is 5'6"(according to bodybuilding.com) but looks a lot shorter. Perhaps its the way the camera angle is (pointed downwards) pointed which is making him look like he is 4'3"
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Decent physique. Decent competitive record!
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Meadows,+John
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$400 is dirt cheap. I wouldn't call myself some sort of guru by any means and I charge at a minimum twice that unless it's web based but then it's still higher than $400. My rate has been the same for a few years, 16wks, $500 for web based, $800 for standard, $1,200 in many cases and all possible expenses paid for, i.e. travel, hotel, etc. You'd be surprised at how many people pay it and I'm cheaper than most.
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"$400 is dirt cheap"...Agreed, but why anyone needs a "guru" or coach is beyond me ??
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$400 is dirt cheap. I wouldn't call myself some sort of guru by any means and I charge at a minimum twice that unless it's web based but then it's still higher than $400. My rate has been the same for a few years, 16wks, $500 for web based, $800 for standard, $1,200 in many cases and all possible expenses paid for, i.e. travel, hotel, etc. You'd be surprised at how many people pay it and I'm cheaper than most.
Drugs included in that 1200 ? :D
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to me it doesn't sound bad. IF he monitors your progress and adjusts your diet right he will have some time invested in it. it takes all the guess work out of it for you as well.
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Drugs included in that 1200 ? :D
Only if you consider my wisdom a drug, lol!
to me it doesn't sound bad. IF he monitors your progress and adjusts your diet right he will have some time invested in it. it takes all the guess work out of it for you as well.
The idea is so you don't waste your time. Most people cannot see themselves in a true light and by most I actually do mean most. I wouldn't put in all the time and effort for a show without someone's eyes to help. It's funny though, most guys usually have to taste some disappointment before you work with them, most assume they're different and that they can see themselves objectively and normally have to go through a couple shows before they are humble enough to admit they need some help. Most girls do not seem to have this problem.
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Only if you consider my wisdom a drug, lol!
The idea is so you don't waste your time. Most people cannot see themselves in a true light and by most I actually do mean most. I wouldn't put in all the time and effort for a show without someone's eyes to help. It's funny though, most guys usually have to taste some disappointment before you work with them, most assume they're different and that they can see themselves objectively and normally have to go through a couple shows before they are humble enough to admit they need some help. Most girls do not seem to have this problem.
actually i went to a nutritionist for my first show. i don;t go by the calipers but he checked my bf reg. the idea for me was if the calipers were pinching less on my stomach a lower back (where i hold most of my fat) we knew i was on track
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4.5 inches
and 170grams
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Only if you consider my wisdom a drug, lol!
I'll keep reading the steroid board then you offer plenty of wisdom down there ;) :D
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"$400 is dirt cheap"...Agreed, but why anyone needs a "guru" or coach is beyond me ??
....because there are ALOT of dumb people in this world
Seriously, If I had no soul or conscience I could make a fucking killing bamboozling suckers into training with me
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....because there are ALOT of dumb people in this world
Seriously, If I had no soul or conscience I could make a fucking killing bamboozling suckers into training with me
did the drugs kill the "profit motive" part of your brain?
why wouldn't you make a killing?
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I am actually 5'6 and a 1/2...lol...!
JM
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I am actually 5'6 and a 1/2...lol...!
JM
actually, getbig style, you should have said:
"I am actually 5'6 and a 1/2, and your mom seems to love every inches of that body"
you'll get used to it
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I am actually 5'6 and a 1/2...lol...!
JM
good build,,,,
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actually, getbig style, you should have said:
"I am actually 5'6 and a 1/2, and your mom seems to love every inches of that body"
you'll get used to it
Haha - It's ok...somebody said I looked like I had down syndrome in one thread..I had to laugh because I am definitely no Robert Redford..and the people I know with Downs are all better looking than me...
JM
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I have no idea how anyone can think $400 for 12 weeks is expensive.
I spent $400 for 10 weeks to rehab a sports hernia. Surgeon told me to do nothing for 10 weeks. Trainer said "fuck that" and started me with deadlifts on day one. After 10 weeks I had 100lbs on my deadlift and 50 lbs on my bench. Money well spent.
But, to put in in perspective, the gym I currently go to costs about 3 grand for 10 weeks. $100 a session, 3x week. I would never consider paying that, but it shows how cheap the approx $33 a week the thread title is.
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you must understand how it is in bodybuild friends,,
a bodybuild work when it come to salary by applying a simple formula,, the formula is this
how many iu gh i need a day = how many kits i need to order = how many kits nordic may give me for a good price if i can bring more money to the order = the amount i will charge for the stupid fella for his or her prep or training
this is how bodybuikld think,, and this is how guru think because guru is bodybuild in a way ,, not all look like one but all want to be one and some just want the gh for clients so they are seen as the main diff maker in client life
it reraly nothing to do with training simona blackbery,, it is more of getting enough cheecheeing so the order of gh can flow with no stop and have enough to use ,, becaus emoment out of gh is moment no more bodybuild look ,,
this is what guru become as of 2011
you dont need no oen when you have bible here ,,and if you realy want one YOU BE HIM,, some personel train who do it from love do not chareg no 1500 1200 600 dolaros they chareg 30 dolaros a sesion 300 dolaros 10 session ,, this would be resonable prices for youngsters who want to be trained to be bodybuild,, but no as i said there is suply and damand around gh need,, the all thinking is not making a living,, no one make a damn living out of nothin gin average bodybuild ,, it is all in the hormone supply you can get for the money you make from the dumb client besicaly everything is thought in terms of number of kits
gh15 approved
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I have no idea how anyone can think $400 for 12 weeks is expensive.
I spent $400 for 10 weeks to rehab a sports hernia. Surgeon told me to do nothing for 10 weeks. Trainer said "fuck that" and started me with deadlifts on day one. After 10 weeks I had 100lbs on my deadlift and 50 lbs on my bench. Money well spent.
But, to put in in perspective, the gym I currently go to costs about 3 grand for 10 weeks. $100 a session, 3x week. I would never consider paying that, but it shows how cheap the approx $33 a week the thread title is.
this,,,and if your getting in shape for life or contest and reach your goal or place in a show,,well money well spent if that's what's needed to get you there..
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this,,,and if your getting in shape for life or contest and reach your goal or place in a show,,well money well spent if that's what's needed to get you there..
who were those guru in 70 and 80? or 60s? all thoe bodybuild who were their guru who chareg them money? no one ,, they themselve did it and look like miliion dolaros
gh15 approved
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I prep a good amount of local BB, figure, bikini and MP that live in my area. This is the only way I will do it, face to face. I have been competing since 1984 and do it for the love of the game. Just like I coach AAU basketball for free in the Summer. I chage $ 250 for the prep and that includes discussing training, diet and supps. I meet with each athlete at least once a week for 30 minutes each X 10 weeks. I charge more if they want to train regular. Most guy know how to train if they are competing, so they just need guidence and a good eye.
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who were those guru in 70 and 80? or 60s? all thoe bodybuild who were their guru who chareg them money? no one ,, they themselve did it and look like miliion dolaros
gh15 approved
absolutley ,,,,but things have obviously changed champ,,,,battle of the mro forgot yr 87 i think berry demey in holland training in a small gym wood panneling looking million bucks ,,gaspari killing it ,,haney pushing big weights and posing,posing ,posing,,,no body yelling fst-7 ,,,or i got so in so doing this and that and he should be ready all time best.
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I prep a good amount of local BB, figure, bikini and MP that live in my area. This is the only way I will do it, face to face. I have been competing since 1984 and do it for the love of the game. Just like I coach AAU basketball for free in the Summer. I chage $ 250 for the prep and that includes discussing training, diet and supps. I meet with each athlete at least once a week for 30 minutes each X 10 weeks. I charge more if they want to train regular. Most guy know how to train if they are competing, so they just need guidence and a good eye.
last part of ur post is valid,,,
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i would pay $400 for 12 weeks and a good source
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Bboy was working with Mountaindog (jm).
he has a very interesting and effective way of dieting , it is health issues as well.
If you do not want to spend the money , you can read his posts and website and watch his videos.
By listening to him i changed my family's diet and it works well health wise , as my youngest had some health issues.
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vince gironda helped some.
but the real answer is joe weider . the trainer of champions... ;D
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^^^^ that was a reply to : who were those guru in 70 and 80? or 60s? all thoe bodybuild who were their guru who chareg them money? no one ,, they themselve did it and look like miliion dolaros
gh15 approved
I meant to quote but f up.
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let me make this easy on you...
if you don't know anything about contest prep...
go to google and search for "contest prep diet"
pick anyone you like and cut the food in half (the food is doubled in those articles to make it look it's tough and bodybuilders are hard workers who are meticulous... LOL)
go to any juice head in the gym who doesn't read forums and ask him what kind of gear gets you cut? take all of what he suggests
add gh and all the fat burners you can
train til you get tired
tada!
where's my $400?
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let me make this easy on you...
if you don't know anything about contest prep...
go to google and search for "contest prep diet"
pick anyone you like and cut the food in half (the food is doubled in those articles to make it look it's tough and bodybuilders are hard workers who are meticulous... LOL)
go to any juice head in the gym who doesn't read forums and ask him what kind of gear gets you cut? take all of what he suggests
add gh and all the fat burners you can
train til you get tired
tada!
where's my $400?
First rule for internet guru.
Charge first only post in riddeles.
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you must understand how it is in bodybuild friends,,
a bodybuild work when it come to salary by applying a simple formula,, the formula is this
how many iu gh i need a day = how many kits i need to order = how many kits nordic may give me for a good price if i can bring more money to the order = the amount i will charge for the stupid fella for his or her prep or training
this is how bodybuikld think,, and this is how guru think because guru is bodybuild in a way ,, not all look like one but all want to be one and some just want the gh for clients so they are seen as the main diff maker in client life
it reraly nothing to do with training simona blackbery,, it is more of getting enough cheecheeing so the order of gh can flow with no stop and have enough to use ,, becaus emoment out of gh is moment no more bodybuild look ,,
this is what guru become as of 2011
you dont need no oen when you have bible here ,,and if you realy want one YOU BE HIM,, some personel train who do it from love do not chareg no 1500 1200 600 dolaros they chareg 30 dolaros a sesion 300 dolaros 10 session ,, this would be resonable prices for youngsters who want to be trained to be bodybuild,, but no as i said there is suply and damand around gh need,, the all thinking is not making a living,, no one make a damn living out of nothin gin average bodybuild ,, it is all in the hormone supply you can get for the money you make from the dumb client besicaly everything is thought in terms of number of kits
gh15 approved
I guess you would know.....lol
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I prep a good amount of local BB, figure, bikini and MP that live in my area. This is the only way I will do it, face to face. I have been competing since 1984 and do it for the love of the game. Just like I coach AAU basketball for free in the Summer. I chage $ 250 for the prep and that includes discussing training, diet and supps. I meet with each athlete at least once a week for 30 minutes each X 10 weeks. I charge more if they want to train regular. Most guy know how to train if they are competing, so they just need guidence and a good eye.
QFT!
I prep a few guys every year as well, and this is what most need.
An unpartial set of eyes to guide their progress.
Lets not forget also that many guys in this "sport" are so insecure and as the contest come closer your role gets more like that of a mental coach.
I dont like the word guru..there are no secrets to diet and drugs,but i am amazed every time how many of these competitors have no clue at all.
Lastly, most of them will blame the coach when they fail even if they did a halfassed job...but if they do good it was all their doing ;D
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lol the guy's face is ready to explode
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lol the guy's face is ready to explode
your face would look like its going to explode to if you was chasing around cage free chickens for eggs everyday
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I have hired John Meadows and Shelby Starnes. Shelby is all about diet and training. He will give drug advice but only if you ask. The advice he gave me was pretty basic and I am sure that is because my build was very basic. He certainly does not give out a source. I was hoping he would but no.
John is known for his workout routines. It is a very high intensity high volume style. It is very intense. Trust me he will be having you do things that most guys would never do on their own. I never even asked John about drugs and he never offered any drug advise.
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(http://www.livingbeautifulradio.com/TanjiJohnson.jpg)
tanji is cheaper, and smarter, and can help you work on your cardio and flexibility. plus if you are good enough, you might convince her to have a relationship with you.
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I have hired John Meadows and Shelby Starnes. Shelby is all about diet and training. He will give drug advice but only if you ask. The advice he gave me was pretty basic and I am sure that is because my build was very basic. He certainly does not give out a source. I was hoping he would but no.
John is known for his workout routines. It is a very high intensity high volume style. It is very intense. Trust me he will be having you do things that most guys would never do on their own. I never even asked John about drugs and he never offered any drug advise.
waste of money then. ooh high intensity volume. ::) ::) ::)
bible is all you need
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waste of money then. ooh high intensity volume. ::) ::) ::)
bible is all you need
At the time I spent the money it was worth it. Now I have the bible.
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At the time I spent the money it was worth it. Now I have the bible.
:D
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(http://www.livingbeautifulradio.com/TanjiJohnson.jpg)
tanji is cheaper, and smarter, and can help you work on your cardio and flexibility. plus if you are good enough, you might convince her to have a relationship with you.
what if i only want 5 minutes in her fun box..whats the cost?
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JM is a good guy...very professional and he takes good care of his clients...400 is pocket change compare to what other are charging.
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I like John's articles on nutrition and diet over at t-nation.com and he's got some interesting ideas about training too
Great info and free too
btw - $400 for 12 weeks of personal training/diet info seems pretty damn reasonable to me
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(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z437/TestosteroneNation/LiveSpill%20Images/Reader%20Photos/meadows1.jpg)
400 and then you end up looking like this clown ?
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hahaha that red face looks healthy fookin dwarf