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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: pellius on September 01, 2011, 11:54:56 PM
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The infallibility of our God of Hormones in regard to hormones has been well documented and beyond reproach. Just by smell, color and watching how the oil slides slowly down the vile he can determine the specific hormone and it's level of purity (the greenish tint and shoe smell of equipona is best left to the experts). Who the good cooks are. Who balonies you. And just by looking at someone he can tell what product or products that person is on and how much mgs or grams he is on with a degree of accuracy of 94.75% if going only by pictures. The accuracy rate rises to 97.09% if he views you in person. Coincidently, this corresponds exactly to the purity levels of Nordic's Blue Tops vs. his Red Tops.
And his level of intelligence is extraordinary and therefore he can speak with authority on a variety of issues and topics: Americana whores, time travel, contemporary music and movies, sushi and pineapple juice spike with androlona, aliens, and the downfall of modern Western society as we know it and the rise and the inevitable world conquest by the Chinese empire. After all, our government doesn't just hand out Luna level security clearances to just anybody.
Ask George Bush Sr.
But, outside of hormones, he is not without flaws and transgressions. Who can forget his support of John Edwards? Or how he and Rick conspired to have Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate. So it was with good reason that I doubted his campaign promoting the drinking of raw egg whites. Studies were pretty conclusive and unanimous that raw egg whites are not digested properly. But a new twist recently entered this ongoing discussion. That was the effect of pasteurization. So it was back to do some more research. This is an article from someone who seems to have researched the subject thoroughly and seems to know what he's talking about. I highlighted the main point we are interested in. Suffice to say I bought six 32 oz cartons earlier today with 24 grams of protein for every 8 ounces. They were on sale here in Hawaii for $5.19 per carton. I imagine it's cheaper on the mainland. I also bought some Agave as a sweetener. Though I slightly deviated from the recipe it's still in full accord with the philosophy of Mary Poppins who use to say, "Just a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down."
The Article:
I will try to be thorough, take notes if necessary so you may pass this info on to others young body builders, who will undoubtedly ask this question every week from now until the end of time. This is just a summary of about 10,000 egg articles I've read, and about the 30th time I've posted the info .
Yes you can eat raw eggs/whites, but the whole eggs or carton eggs must be pasteurized (it will say so on the carton). Pasteurization is when they heat the egg/egg product enough to kill all the bacteria (including salmonella) and the protein digestion inhibitors (usually126-140 degrees). If you eat non-pasteurized eggs/egg products your body cannot utilize the protein in them due to the presence of a protein inhibitor. And while you may get salmonella from raw eggs/egg product the chances are 1 in 10,000 for regular eggs and 1 in 30,000 for free range eggs.
Avidin is a glycoprotein, which is found in raw egg whites, and blocks the uptake of Vitamin B6 and Vitamin H (Biotin) causing a vitamin deficiency (it binds to Biotin and iron making them unavailable). You must cook/pasteurize the egg white to neutralize the Avidin and allow your body to safely digest the protein and utilize all its amino acids. Cooking egg whites at high temperatures denatures some of the amino acids which makes the proteins slightly less effective (slower digesting). A soft boiled or poached egg (at 70% albumin coagulation) is digested much easier as opposed to a fried or hard boiled egg. 2 soft boiled/poached eggs spend less than 2 hours in the stomach being digested, where 2 fried/hard boiled eggs spend over 3 hours in the stomach. Although fried/hard cooked eggs are digested just as completely as soft cooked eggs, it just takes longer for them to be completely digested and assimilated.
An egg white is about 10% protein and 90% water. It’s the proteins that cause the egg white to solidify when you cook it. Egg white proteins are long chains of amino acids. In a raw egg, these proteins are curled and folded to form a compact ball. Weak bonds between amino acids hold the proteins in this shape—until you turn up the heat. When heated, the weak bonds break and the protein unfolds. Then its amino acids form weak bonds with the amino acids of other proteins, a process called coagulation. The resulting network of proteins captures water, making a soft, digestible gel.
If you keep the heat turned up too high or too long when you cook an egg, the proteins in the egg white form more and more bonds, squeezing some of the water out of the protein network and making the egg white rubbery and increasing their digestion time.
So, basically the most bioavailable and readily assimilated egg proteins are either pasteurized raw eggs/egg products or soft cooked/poached eggs that have not reached 160 degrees at which point the proteins become coagulated/denatured and take longer to be completely digested and assimilated.
If you want to save some money you can do this at home.It is possible to pasteurize eggs at home - and easily, too! Pasteurization is simply a process of heating a food to a specific temperature for a specific amount of time - designed to kill specific bacteria. It is known that salmonella bacteria are killed at temperatures of 140 degrees in about 3 1/2 minutes (or a higher temperature in less time). If a room temperature egg is held in a bowl of warm water - say, 142 degrees to be safe - for 3 1/2 minutes, the bacteria will be killed and the protein inhibitor neutralized. It takes 5 minutes for extra large or jumbo eggs.
Place the room temperature eggs in a colander, and lower them into a pan or bowl of 142-degree water. Use an instant-read thermometer to be sure of the water temperature, and leave the thermometer in the water, to be sure that the temoerature is maintained. For medium or large eggs, leave them in the water for 3 1/2 minutes; for extra large or jumbo eggs, allow 5 minutes. Then remove the eggs, dry them, and refrigerate them, in a tightly-covered container.
Eggs begin to cook at about 160 degrees, and will be "scrambled eggs" at 180 - but if the 142 degree temperature is maintained, the result is a safe egg that will act like a raw egg in recipes and will provide a fully usable protein source.
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Cliff notes for CalvinH:
So, basically the most bioavailable and readily assimilated egg proteins are either pasteurized raw eggs/egg products or soft cooked/poached eggs that have not reached 160 degrees at which point the proteins become coagulated/denatured and take longer to be completely digested and assimilated.
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The infallibility of our God of Hormones in regard to hormones has been well documented and beyond reproach. Just by smell, color and watching how the oil slides slowly down the vile he can determine the specific hormone and it's level of purity (the greenish tint and shoe smell of equipona is best left to the experts). Who the good cooks are. Who balonies you. And just by looking at someone he can tell what product or products that person is on and how much mgs or grams he is on with a degree of accuracy of 94.75% if going only by pictures. The accuracy rate rises to 97.09% if he views you in person. Coincidently, this corresponds exactly to the purity levels of Nordic's Blue Tops vs. his Red Tops.
And his level of intelligence is extraordinary and therefore he can speak with authority on a variety of issues and topics: Americana whores, time travel, contemporary music and movies, sushi and pineapple juice spike with androlona, aliens, and the downfall of modern Western society as we know it and the rise and the inevitable world conquest by the Chinese empire. After all, our government doesn't just hand out Luna level security clearances to just anybody.
Ask George Bush Sr.
But, outside of hormones, he is not without flaws and transgressions. Who can forget his support of John Edwards? Or how he and Rick conspired to have Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate. So it was with good reason that I doubted his campaign promoting the drinking of raw egg whites. Studies were pretty conclusive and unanimous that raw egg whites are not digested properly. But a new twist recently entered this ongoing discussion. That was the effect of pasteurization. So it was back to do some more research. This is an article from someone who seems to have researched the subject thoroughly and seems to know what he's talking about. I highlighted the main point we are interested in. Suffice to say I bought six 32 oz cartons earlier today with 24 grams of protein for every 8 ounces. They were on sale here in Hawaii for $5.19 per carton. I imagine it's cheaper on the mainland. I also bought some Agave as a sweetener. Though I slightly deviated from the recipe it's still in full accord with the philosophy of Mary Poppins who use to say, "Just a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down."
The Article:
I will try to be thorough, take notes if necessary so you may pass this info on to others young body builders, who will undoubtedly ask this question every week from now until the end of time. This is just a summary of about 10,000 egg articles I've read, and about the 30th time I've posted the info .
Yes you can eat raw eggs/whites, but the whole eggs or carton eggs must be pasteurized (it will say so on the carton). Pasteurization is when they heat the egg/egg product enough to kill all the bacteria (including salmonella) and the protein digestion inhibitors (usually126-140 degrees). If you eat non-pasteurized eggs/egg products your body cannot utilize the protein in them due to the presence of a protein inhibitor. And while you may get salmonella from raw eggs/egg product the chances are 1 in 10,000 for regular eggs and 1 in 30,000 for free range eggs.
Avidin is a glycoprotein, which is found in raw egg whites, and blocks the uptake of Vitamin B6 and Vitamin H (Biotin) causing a vitamin deficiency (it binds to Biotin and iron making them unavailable). You must cook/pasteurize the egg white to neutralize the Avidin and allow your body to safely digest the protein and utilize all its amino acids. Cooking egg whites at high temperatures denatures some of the amino acids which makes the proteins slightly less effective (slower digesting). A soft boiled or poached egg (at 70% albumin coagulation) is digested much easier as opposed to a fried or hard boiled egg. 2 soft boiled/poached eggs spend less than 2 hours in the stomach being digested, where 2 fried/hard boiled eggs spend over 3 hours in the stomach. Although fried/hard cooked eggs are digested just as completely as soft cooked eggs, it just takes longer for them to be completely digested and assimilated.
An egg white is about 10% protein and 90% water. It’s the proteins that cause the egg white to solidify when you cook it. Egg white proteins are long chains of amino acids. In a raw egg, these proteins are curled and folded to form a compact ball. Weak bonds between amino acids hold the proteins in this shape—until you turn up the heat. When heated, the weak bonds break and the protein unfolds. Then its amino acids form weak bonds with the amino acids of other proteins, a process called coagulation. The resulting network of proteins captures water, making a soft, digestible gel.
If you keep the heat turned up too high or too long when you cook an egg, the proteins in the egg white form more and more bonds, squeezing some of the water out of the protein network and making the egg white rubbery and increasing their digestion time.
So, basically the most bioavailable and readily assimilated egg proteins are either pasteurized raw eggs/egg products or soft cooked/poached eggs that have not reached 160 degrees at which point the proteins become coagulated/denatured and take longer to be completely digested and assimilated.
If you want to save some money you can do this at home.It is possible to pasteurize eggs at home - and easily, too! Pasteurization is simply a process of heating a food to a specific temperature for a specific amount of time - designed to kill specific bacteria. It is known that salmonella bacteria are killed at temperatures of 140 degrees in about 3 1/2 minutes (or a higher temperature in less time). If a room temperature egg is held in a bowl of warm water - say, 142 degrees to be safe - for 3 1/2 minutes, the bacteria will be killed and the protein inhibitor neutralized. It takes 5 minutes for extra large or jumbo eggs.
Place the room temperature eggs in a colander, and lower them into a pan or bowl of 142-degree water. Use an instant-read thermometer to be sure of the water temperature, and leave the thermometer in the water, to be sure that the temoerature is maintained. For medium or large eggs, leave them in the water for 3 1/2 minutes; for extra large or jumbo eggs, allow 5 minutes. Then remove the eggs, dry them, and refrigerate them, in a tightly-covered container.
Eggs begin to cook at about 160 degrees, and will be "scrambled eggs" at 180 - but if the 142 degree temperature is maintained, the result is a safe egg that will act like a raw egg in recipes and will provide a fully usable protein source.
You are a complete fucking moron. And I mean this honestly.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I would like to hear Bob Chickendildos opinion on this...
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You are a complete fucking moron. And I mean this honestly.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Agreed.
Also I ditched egg whites completely, sodium is sky high on those damn things. I recently tried a bucket of Lana's and at 2cups twice a day I have never retained more water. It's like 400mgs Na a pop! Just from the egg whites I was getting 800mgs Na in addition to my normal daily routines.
I just picked up some pure isolate which I will be mixing with some quick oats instead. 2 scoops=54 grams of high bioavailable protein at only 100mgs Na per serving. 2 shakes a day yields 108 g protein and only 200mgs Na. MUCH better!!!
Wish they made low sodium egg whites but whatever. Nothing is perfect I guess.
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Agreed.
Also I ditched egg whites completely, sodium is sky high on those damn things. I recently tried a bucket of Lana's and at 2cups twice a day I have never retained more water. It's like 400mgs Na a pop! Just from the egg whites I was getting 800mgs Na in addition to my normal daily routines.
I just picked up some pure isolate which I will be mixing with some quick oats instead. 2 scoops=54 grams of high bioavailable protein at only 100mgs Na per serving. 2 shakes a day yields 108 g protein and only 200mgs Na. MUCH better!!!
Wish they made low sodium egg whites but whatever. Nothing is perfect I guess.
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Are you saying "Methyltropin" is mixing up the sodium content of egg whites and his daily litre of Margeritas?
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Nice article, but you said you wanted to be thorough.
Do you not remember what he said in the article of the guy who raped the baby?
I mean, since you are throwing it ALL out there, you may as well include his all encompassing abilities to have people whacked.
How about IP addy's? Remember what he said about those?
There is more, but I'll let you continue with your studies.
No shit though, you've about covered it.
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Wait I just actually read some of what he wrote-"I will try to be thorough, take notes if necessary so you may pass this info on to others young body builders, who will undoubtedly ask this question every week from now until the end of time. This is just a summary of about 10,000 egg articles I've read, and about the 30th time I've posted the info ."
10k egg articles eh....
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He doesnt seem to have any problems with his bf's salty cum though.
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You are a complete fucking moron. And I mean this honestly.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Honestly? So all the other times you called me a moron you weren't serious? Ah, Stupid, I knew deep down you care. But now you got me real mad.
I think this Suckymuscle is the biggest stupidiest bitch to ever post and needs to get KTFO immediately. I don't hit stupid people, but if I saw Stupid on the street and knew it was him, I would walk right up to him and deck him. I am not joking about this. I would actually hit him in on his jaw and break it and then I would stomp his face in when he hit the ground. I hate this bitch. Stupid c.u.n.t.
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Cliff notes for CalvinH:
So, basically the most bioavailable and readily assimilated egg proteins are either pasteurized raw eggs/egg products or soft cooked/poached eggs that have not reached 160 degrees at which point the proteins become coagulated/denatured and take longer to be completely digested and assimilated.
;D ;D Haha,fucker,just saw this post as I was about to start...
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Am I the only one who liked his article...? Well done, it was a good and informative read!
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Am I the only one who liked his article...? Well done, it was a good and informative read!
Yes.
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I think this Suckymuscle is the biggest stupidiest bitch to ever post and needs to get KTFO immediately. I don't hit stupid people, but if I saw Stupid on the street and knew it was him, I would walk right up to him and deck him. I am not joking about this. I would actually hit him in on his jaw and break it and then I would stomp his face in when he hit the ground. I hate this bitch. Stupid c.u.n.t.
I wouldn't hit him, I would puncture his Carotid artery, as many times as I could before my arm began to tire.
There is not one of his posts that has not initiated a jaw breaking yawn in me!!
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GH15 SAYS TO GET 100% LIQUID EGG WHITES PASTEURIZED SO HOW WAS HE WRONG?
I SKIMMED IT SO IF IT WENT OVER MY HEAD JUST SAY SO.
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Are you saying "Methyltropin" is mixing up the sodium content of egg whites and his daily litre of Margeritas?
I was thinking more along the lines of a cock-sucking analogy.
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http://www.amazing-glutathione.com/raw-eggs.html
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(...) Use an instant-read thermometer to be sure of the water temperature, and leave the thermometer in the water, to be sure that the temoerature is maintained. (...)
living the dream...
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http://www.amazing-glutathione.com/raw-eggs.html
Good job finding some random website that backs up your claim while others have pointed to numerous peer reviewed medical studies which point to the opposite being true- that without cooking the proteins are not effectively absorbed by the body.
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The final word about eaw egg whites is that they are disgusting. They look like what comes out of your nose when you got a bad cold.
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The final word about eaw egg whites is that they are disgusting. They look like what comes out of your nose when you got a bad cold.
You can't see it if you drink straight from the carton. If you sip it slow and try to taste it it tastes weird, but if you just chug it fast you don't really taste anything.
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the only thing i do not like about drnkiing eggwhites is the gas.
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The final word is gh15, he does not fuck around, when he says raw egg whites are easier to digest than cooked egg whites I take him at his word, because I bleieve everything else he says about bodybuilding, why should he speak the truth regarding hormones but not food
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U GET DIARREHEA FOR A FEW DAYS, PERHAPS A WEEK OR TWO BUT IT SHOULD BE ALL GOOD AFTER.
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the shit kills my stomach every time I drink it but goes away in a few days. BTW great post pellius, I was always thought that cooked eggs were the most biovailable.
So take home message: the protein in liquid egg whites are more biovailable than cooked eggs ???
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so whats the verdict ? my understanding is if you eat them with some yolk you are fine with out the yolk they cant digest?
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what does coach think hes been training and training people a long time so he would proably have a good opinion on a topic like this?
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so whats the verdict ? my understanding is if you eat them with some yolk you are fine with out the yolk they cant digest?
yeah thats what I thought as well. the vitamins and minerals in the yolk were put there for a reason right ??? to help digest the protein. I remember talking with optimus about this and he explained that without the yolk the amino acid profile is not complete. I'd be curious to hear coach's or Mcmannus opinion on this
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That is stupid, the yolk is mostly fat and that's where the baby bird is, but the baby bird gets his protein from the white, how can the amino acid chain be incomplete without the yolk, it's all in the white. WHy do you believe 15 when he says egg whites are best but you pick and choose what to believe when he says uncooked are best but cooked are fine, and buy them from walmart, you guys love wasting time like I love eating pussy
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and I fucking love to eat pussy
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yeah thats what I thought as well. the vitamins and minerals in the yolk were put there for a reason right ??? to help digest the protein. I remember talking with optimus about this and he explained that without the yolk the amino acid profile is not complete. I'd be curious to hear coach's or Mcmannus opinion on this
the amino acid profile of egg whites contains all of the essential amino acids in abundance. that being said, whole eggs do provide a bit more of certain key amino acids. but food is food, not drug. the difference between any two sources of protein on body composition and muscle growth is going to be insignificant
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You are a complete fucking moron. And I mean this honestly.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
What is stupid about his post, in particular?
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Great Post now I am more confused then ever ::)
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lol, I drink 32oz of liquid egg whites a day, everyday. doesnt bother my stomach, no gas, shits or water weight... I think the guys bitching about it havent given it a consistent honest chance.
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I wouldn't hit him, I would puncture his Carotid artery, as many times as I could before my arm began to tire.
There is not one of his posts that has not initiated a jaw breaking yawn in me!!
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It just cracks me up how he says he gets everyone to meltdown completely oblivious. One of the most delusional posters on this board. I like that he's here though. I find him also one of the most entertaining. It just makes me think, "I can't believe there's really a person like him in this world!"
As much as I don't particularly like GH15, I think this W8M8 is the biggest stupid bitch to ever post and needs to get KTFO immediately. I don't hit women, but if I saw her on the street and knew it was her, I would walk right up to her and deck her. I am not joking about this. I would actually hit her in her jaw and break it and then I would stomp her face in when she hit the ground. I hate this bitch. Stupid c.u.n.t.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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GH15 SAYS TO GET 100% LIQUID EGG WHITES PASTEURIZED SO HOW WAS HE WRONG?
I SKIMMED IT SO IF IT WENT OVER MY HEAD JUST SAY SO.
He wasn't wrong. There was just a big debate about the digestibility of raw eggs which every study proves is poor. When it comes to nutrition I'm going to listen to experts who actually do scientific testing. But recently when this subject came up the added factor of pasteurization came up. Then I started researching the digestibility of pasteurized eggs. Turns out, along with poached, it has the highest digestibility. I've been drinking it and since I still have protein powder I put in a scoop of chocolate whey. Taste great. The cup of egg whites is 24 gms of protein and the chocolate whey is 20 grams. I think I'm going to keep mixing both as I don't think whey is as bad as god of hormones says it is. I've been drinking protein powders for over 30 years and some of the stuff in the 1970s were pretty bad (I'm sure Coach will remember the Bob Hoffman products) and I never had a problem with water retention. Now if I eat a lot of ice cream or drink milk then I will get that think skin look.
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living the dream...
The article was a post on a message board. I just copied and pasted.
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The final word about eaw egg whites is that they are disgusting. They look like what comes out of your nose when you got a bad cold.
so you can honestly tell me you never eat your boogers? or you never swalow that thing that come out of your nose,, it taste good and you know it! its just embaresing to let others see you doing it,, be truthful! lol
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He wasn't wrong. There was just a big debate about the digestibility of raw eggs which every study proves is poor. When it comes to nutrition I'm going to listen to experts who actually do scientific testing. But recently when this subject came up the added factor of pasteurization came up. Then I started researching the digestibility of pasteurized eggs. Turns out, along with poached, it has the highest digestibility. I've been drinking it and since I still have protein powder I put in a scoop of chocolate whey. Taste great. The cup of egg whites is 24 gms of protein and the chocolate whey is 20 grams. I think I'm going to keep mixing both as I don't think whey is as bad as god of hormones says it is. I've been drinking protein powders for over 30 years and some of the stuff in the 1970s were pretty bad (I'm sure Coach will remember the Bob Hoffman products) and I never had a problem with water retention. Now if I eat a lot of ice cream or drink milk then I will get that think skin look.
now day all pasturized yum yum ,, i can finish them liek crazy ,, if it wasnt 700mg sodium per one little carton i would finish 10 a day ,, but i dont because i still want to keep sodium at the 5000 zone and not go to 8000 and 10000,, 3 to 5 k sodium a day is what i want to keep it at ,,
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Good job finding some random website that backs up your claim while others have pointed to numerous peer reviewed medical studies which point to the opposite being true- that without cooking the proteins are not effectively absorbed by the body.
Hey asshole, and you do seem like an asshole. Every website is pretty much random when you google a subject. And as I pointed out, all studies agree that raw egg whites are not properly digested -- including this one. The equation changes when it's pasteurized. I chose that one to post because of how thorough it was in explaining the difference between raw and pasteurized eggs. Find one that contradicts this then maybe you have an argument. Until then, please, do the board a favor and STFU!
BTW, you sound fat. Are you?
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The final word is gh15, he does not fuck around, when he says raw egg whites are easier to digest than cooked egg whites I take him at his word, because I bleieve everything else he says about bodybuilding, why should he speak the truth regarding hormones but not food
both are ok ,, the raw are nasty to drink ...thats the diff,, when its pasturized you can deel slight diff in the taste and it actualy taste good after a while,, the pasturized is perfectly fine,, friends between end of 90s to now day i finsiehd maybe i dont know every day average of 2-3 cartons small or big you do the math ,, it all good protien ,, its damn eggs lol
whats better egg? or a fucking protien powder you dont know where it came from who made it how it made you dont even know if it is protien inside ,, its all flower like powder that only thing i see out of it is thicker skin with time... yes it got protien inside but why even buy it if you can go walmart and get the wggwhites lol so much easier and so much more natural to the way regular people eat,,
joey macaronie in your local gymnasium ,, yes yes that 6 feet fella with 6% bodyfat 180lb that lift his shirt and show cut 6 pack and cuts in the muscle....that fella that do constaction and come to gym every coule day for fun ....he doesnt do no protien powder lol he does egggggs!! he does burger pizza and eggs lol
this supplement industry fucked your head i swear it did,,
supplements are NOTHING,, real food is everything,,
no hormones = no bodybuilder
the end
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You can't see it if you drink straight from the carton. If you sip it slow and try to taste it it tastes weird, but if you just chug it fast you don't really taste anything.
Seriously, the thought of drinking it seemed disgusting to me because of the texture. I can handle anything when it comes to taste. Back in the dark ages I'd mix up my blend of Bob Hoffman grass/ass flavored protein and stand over the bathroom sink with my tooth brush locked and loaded with toothpaste. I'd chug that shit and then immediately brush my teeth. Never gave it a second thought. We were tough bitches back then.
The only thing with egg whites that I was worried about is the gooey snot-like texture. Teaspoon of Agave and I slurp that up. Seriously, I only bought it yesterday and I'm already downed 5 cups. Love the stuff.
Sales of egg whites, Jamaican, sushi, 5 guys, pineapple juice are all going up. gh15 is doing more for the economy than Obama. Bob Chick should be happy if he's still pushing that egg white company.
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Seriously, the thought of drinking it seemed disgusting to me because of the texture. I can handle anything when it comes to taste. Back in the dark ages I'd mix up my blend of Bob Hoffman grass/ass flavored protein and stand over the bathroom sink with my tooth brush locked and loaded with toothpaste. I'd chug that shit and then immediately brush my teeth. Never gave it a second thought. We were tough bitches back then.
I just got one at the market bro. Its nothing and is NOWHERE near as bad as raw eggs.
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I just got one at the market bro. Its nothing and is NOWHERE near as bad as raw eggs.
Which Flintstones are you? The jacked Jew that I like and knows his bodybuilding or the skinny Jew that whacks off with his friend?
The smart jacked Jew has got to start his own account ASAP.
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the only thing i do not like about drnkiing eggwhites is the gas.
You know, I have never had a problem with gas. Not with anything. I don't even get swamp ass even when it's hot or I'm training. I have the kind of rectum that homos can only dream of. I don't eat a lot of crap and have taken fiber supps for about the last 25 years. I get at least 25-35 grams of fiber a day and never have crapping issues. Regular like a clock and smooth as silk.
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Which Flintstones are you? The jacked Jew that I like and knows his bodybuilding or the skinny Jew that whacks off with his friend?
The smart jacked Jew has got to start his own account ASAP.
There was only one guy behind the flinstones account I am not Josh. It is confirmed with Dustin, I am the beautiful jew with the glasses. ;)
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The final word is gh15, he does not fuck around, when he says raw egg whites are easier to digest than cooked egg whites I take him at his word, because I bleieve everything else he says about bodybuilding, why should he speak the truth regarding hormones but not food
There's a huge diff between saying something you know not to be true -- a lie. And saying something you believe to be true. When people say that Bush lied about WMDs that would mean that he knew for a fact that there was NO WMDs in Iraq but said that there was anyway. How would he know that there wasn't any? Especially since every major intelligence agency believe he did have them including Russian and Chinese. And we did know Saddam did at one point have them because he used them -- against his own people. And nobody remembers the Nuclear reactor that he developed in the 1980s that Israel destroyed. So we know he was always in the process of developing WMDS. But after he kicks out the inspectors we should have just taken his word.
And gh15 was wrong about John Edwards and he and Rick screwed up when they brought Palin on the ticket.
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There was only one guy behind the flinstones account I am not Josh. It is confirmed with Dustin, I am the beautiful jew with the glasses. ;)
So you are on 10 ius of hgh/day?
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Love this site. Have learned so many new things. I wear an apron when I work. So when I eat too much I'm extremely uncomfortable. And when the apron is not tied tight I look like a slob and presentation is the name of the game. Anyway I took the advice of drinking egg whites. Tummy and gas problems the first few days. I'm gusling them now and I'm fine. Been two weeks. Don't feel bloated at all. We'll see where it takes me? Thanks for the advice.
I just brought up your website. Takes fucking forever to load. You look hot in an apron (no homo).
Cute as a kid, too (no Pedo).
I already like you. You seem to enjoy life. People that enjoy life and are happy are usually, if not always, just good people and great to be around. It's miserably people that usually fuck things up for everybody. It's hard to imagine that Pol Pot, who murdered a third of his own people, was a happy man. You just cook murdered animals and I appreciate it.
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There's a huge diff between saying something you know not to be true -- a lie. And saying something you believe to be true. When people say that Bush lied about WMDs that would mean that he knew for a fact that there was NO WMDs in Iraq but said that there was anyway. How would he know that there wasn't any? Especially since every major intelligence agency believe he did have them including Russian and Chinese. And we did know Saddam did at one point have them because he used them -- against his own people. And nobody remembers the Nuclear reactor that he developed in the 1980s that Israel destroyed. So we know he was always in the process of developing WMDS. But after he kicks out the inspectors we should have just taken his word.
And gh15 was wrong about John Edwards and he and Rick screwed up when they brought Palin on the ticket.
I raed the first sentence and the last sentence, dont care about the middle, sorry you gavent figured this out yet but everything 15 says not in regard to muscles is nonsense, on purpose ok, he likes to fuck with people, and he didn't say he believes raw are better he said they are better, 15 does not bs about muscles, to state something is true because you believe it is is to bullshit, he does not do this, ok?
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So you are on 10 ius of hgh/day?
lol if I was still at 10 iu I would be king on here by now ;D
no $ :'(
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I have been drinking egg whites out of the carton on and off for years. Still gives me gas, but i do it anyway. Lucerne brand at safeway, it's always on sale.
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I use liquid eggwhites for 3 yrs now. No problems here.
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so you can honestly tell me you never eat your boogers? or you never swalow that thing that come out of your nose,, it taste good and you know it! its just embaresing to let others see you doing it,, be truthful! lol
gh15 approved
Sure,but not the one's that ain't mine...
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Good job finding some random website that backs up your claim while others have pointed to numerous peer reviewed medical studies which point to the opposite being true- that without cooking the proteins are not effectively absorbed by the body.
i tend to believe paleo thinking , n i did raw organic full eggs b4 workout n i was strong on keto
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i tend to believe paleo thinking , n i did raw organic full eggs b4 workout n i was strong on keto
But we're not Paleo anymore. Would you eat raw meat and organs? Wouldn't eating raw pork make you sick?
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But we're not Paleo anymore. Would you eat raw meat and organs? Wouldn't eating raw pork make you sick?
Exactly. Its doubtful a modern-day man could even drink the same water as paleolithic man. The fantasy is of course that every paleolithic man drank directly from a crystal-clear babbling mountain stream, but the reality is that most water sources are full of sediment and algae and are not very palatable.
There's nothing wrong with raw (i fucking love sashimi) but the paleo diet is just a gimmick.
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The final word about eaw egg whites is that they are disgusting. They look like what comes out of your nose when you got a bad cold.
and they taste about the same, ok.
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i only eat these kind of eggs.
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i only eat these kind of eggs.
Your mother eats my sperms.
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According to Egg Science & Technology, edited by Drs. William J. Stadelman & Owen J. Cotterill, Fourth Edition, 1995, “The avidin-biotin complex is resistant to denaturation and proteolysis. Avidin was irreversibly denatured at temperatures higher than 158F (70C) but the complex was stable to 212F (100C).”
Further:
"Plain egg whites (without added ingredients) are pasteurized at a temperature of 134F (56.7C) for 3.5 minutes OR at a temperature of 132F (55.6C) for 6.2 minutes."
and
"Coagulation of egg white begins at temperature of 144F."
Translation: Pasteurization does not denature avidin, despite false sales claims. Drinking a bodybuilder's amount of pasteurized egg whites everyday can lead to a biotin deficiency. It's safer to cook them until they have scrambled if you're going to consume tons.
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GH15 SAYS TO GET 100% LIQUID EGG WHITES PASTEURIZED SO HOW WAS HE WRONG?
I SKIMMED IT SO IF IT WENT OVER MY HEAD JUST SAY SO.
Exactly, all the liquid egg whites are pasteurized.
If they didn't digest, I basically maintained and grew my physique this year with about 50-75g of protein, because the rest came from liquid egg whites everyday.
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Translation: Pasteurization does not denature avidin, despite false sales claims. Drinking a bodybuilder's amount of pasteurized egg whites everyday can lead to a biotin deficiency. It's safer to cook them until they have scrambled if you're going to consume tons.
Fuck!!! This sucks! I have gone through a gallon in the last 8 days. Pissed off man! Could supplementing biotin help????
What are some signs of biotin/b vitamin deficiency?
Are their absorbtion benefits to drinking raw, if the avidin were to be denatured?
What would you do?
A. Continue drinking raw and supplement with extra biotin.
B. Cook the eggs
If you want to use egg whites and have them both cooked but liquid, I'd microwave a lot at a time in a large dish and blend them with enough water and some cocoa powder (unsweetened if you're carb paranoid), and refrigerate. It's a better choice than powders because at least you know what's in there. Add some sugar, a boiled potato, and milk if you want to get fat and strong.
Excessive protein does nothing for me beyond cheaper and more pleasant calories, however. The only thing that really bothers me though is false claims about pasteurization 'neutralizing' avidin from egg white sellers. Unless the egg white coagulates, nothing is neutalized.
Btw, you'll be fine after only a week. It would take a long time for biotin problems to hit you but it's something that bodybuilders could face if they drink lots of whites for months at a time.
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You're fine. It would take months of determined effort to have a problem. Nothing bad will hit you after only a week.
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Your mother eats my sperms.
;D gee you a funny guy not funny haha funny queer.... ;D my MOMS is dead, may you rot in hell for this disrespect.
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I always microwaved first so I could see them coagulate to a soft solid. It'll take a few tries to find the best timing on your microwave but youll have to stir large batches a couple times, D.
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Don't overcook and the solids will be minimal. You can run it through a strainer after blending with water if you want.
I honestly didn't find extra protein doing any more for me than extra carbs tho. Hope you get a good result from it.
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Yesterday i ate several cupcakes, made with eggs. Gave me the gasses. Reminds why i avoid eggs and dairy.
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This is why Rheo Blair had his own method of making soft boiled eggs.
Digestibility.
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Raw eggs = a good way to get samonella.
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Raw eggs = a good way to get samonella.
salmonella from eggs is a myth. Our parents ate raw eggs, so did our grandparents and their parents...none ever had salmonella. Ever.
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Raw eggs = a good way to get samonella.
We're talking pasteurized egg whites. Not right out of the shell.
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Raw eggs = a good way to get samonella.
LOL at this thinking
Chances are extremely small number one, plus if you buy cage free eggs organic no chance at all... 2 even if you DO get it, if you have a good immune system, just upset stomach for a few days No big deal.. Salmonella mostly only effects the elderly and children (whose immune systems are underdeveloped) Also the US Dept. of Agriculture did a study in 2007 that tested eggs for Salmonella.. 1 in 40,000 eggs contained TRACES of the disease... plus were bodybuilders so we should have SUPERIOR IMMUNE SYSTEMS.. I personally have not been sick in years... Also, I used to eat 8-12 raw eggs every day for over a year, didn't once get salmonella.. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX BUDDY and stop repeating the same old parroting bullshit that ignorant naive people say