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You got to give this man credit he doesn't take any easy fights.
Takes on a former UFC champion Mir in his second fight ever. Then he takes on Health Herring who isn't exactly a pussy, Couture and Mir again
Suffers life threatening illness, comes back from illness and fights Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez within a few months of eachother
Gets sick again and has 10 inches of his colon removed and is fighting Ovewreem in his return match. You think they would give him someone a little bit easier for his return fight. Nope Brock only fights the toughest mfers in the world.
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You got to give this man credit he doesn't take any easy fights.
Takes on a former UFC champion Mir in his second fight ever. Then he takes on Health Herring who isn't exactly a pussy, Couture and Mir again
Suffers life threatening illness, comes back from illness and fights Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez within a few months of eachother
Gets sick again and has 10 inches of his colon removed and is fighting Ovewreem in his return match. You think they would give him someone a little bit easier for his return fight. Nope Brock only fights the toughest mfers in the world.
Overreem is going to beat the shit out of him.
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Overeem is actually good at fighting, he may be the best heavy weight fighter ever
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Overreem is going to beat the shit out of him.
Will see about that. Once Brock shoots a double on that London fagget he's gonna turn his face into hamburger meat. Just like he did to Mir.
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Interesting matchup, this is a huge opportunity for Brock to get back in to the HW picture. Not sure that Overeem has ever faced a wrestler of Brock's caliber, (especially his strength and size) so it will be interesting to see how Alistair's takedown defense looks against someone like Brock.
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Hell yes,cant wait for this fight!!
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Will see about that. Once Brock shoots a double on that London fagget he's gonna turn his face into hamburger meat. Just like he did to Mir.
Oh please gonna.be hard to against a.guy just as.big.and strong as you and.10 x more.skill.
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Does Brock have the strength he once did, does he have the self belief that he has what it takes to beat him, has the surgery & the vicious loss to Cain affected him mentally? These are questions Overeem will look to answer because hes big & strong with excellent striking.
Brock was stronger for sure but it may be a level playing field now or even advantage Overeem, Brock couldnt take down Carwin and had to wait on him gassing. This is a really tough pick but im going to have to choose Lesnar by TKO via GnP in Rd 2.
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Overeem by whatever he wants.
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If this is for real it will be an awesome fight. I'll give this to Overeem.
However, the winner gets to fight Derek Poundstone to settle the "tough guy fighting" issue once and for all.
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Funny how a man thats scared to take a hit takes on pretty much mma's best hw striker ::) . I think cain would outstrike him. So hes taken on the best hw striker and now imo the second best. Damn what a pussy.
I just hope he will be healthy. :)
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Dude has been to hell and back twice in the last few years. Hopefully he can take out overeem. Needa to practise striking alot so he can set up the td and doesnt rush too much.
The Knee cain caught brock with settled the deal in their match. And overeem has Deadly literally knees in the clinch.
Mir imo would have been better as a rubbermatch. But I guess Its the big wolves right away Again
mir had asked for it also I think.
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if brock loses overeem would face the winner between cain/jds for the title and that would be cain and Overeem Vs Cain would be Incredible. Having Cain beat up the k-1 champ.
But I'm a lifetime member of TEAM LESNAR so GO BROCK lol.
edit* fuck, teamlesnar.com is taken lol
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I guess Lesnar the viking didn't get enough of an ass beating by that mexican
Btw... has Cain Valasquz fought anyone since he beat the ever lasting shit out of Lesnar ?
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in all actuallity the cain fight wasnt really a fight lesnar stumbled that can happen to anyone. He may not have the best technique but he is more then capable of beating anyone.
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Well I hope Lesnar at least comes to fight Overeem toe-to-toe, not like Werdum in the Heavyweight Grand Prix.
Fucking boring fight - sucked anus. ::)
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Brock cannot be knocked out!! Thats a fact. Carwin and Velasquez hit Brock with everything they had. Brock is tough. I think Brock will win this.
I think Cain and Junior can beat Overeem too.
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Btw... has Cain Valasquz fought anyone since he beat the ever lasting shit out of Lesnar ?
No. Brock hurt Cain pretty bad in the initial 30 seconds of their fight. Brock's flying knees and all out bullrush caught Cain off guard. Cain tore a rotator cuff muscle during Brock's charge. Cain took a long time to recover. He fights again in 2 months; against Junior Dos Santos.
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wtf are you making up?
cain suffered a torn rotator cuff during the fight with brock.
Source: ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5967956
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brock stumbeld after that and was a sitting duck it cain won but it was hardly a legit fight all the way around
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This fight depends 100% on Lesnar, everyone knows what to expect from Overeem, but Lesnar had his ass kicked in the last fight and a major surgery to remove 10" of his ass, so many questions surround him and his ability, his aggression, his training.......it's up to Brock and IMO this is it, he gets stomped he'll be back in WWE sooner than later. :-\
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This fight depends 100% on Lesnar, everyone knows what to expect from Overeem, but Lesnar had his ass kicked in the last fight and a major surgery to remove 10" of his ass, so many questions surround him and his ability, his aggression, his training.......it's up to Brock and IMO this is it, he gets stomped he'll be back in WWE sooner than later. :-\
i believe it was disclosed that Brock earned about 8 million from the two bouts he had in 2010. He doesnt need the WWE
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i believe it was disclosed that Brock earned about 8 million from the two bouts he had in 2010. He doesnt need the WWE
I believe Brock at one point in time had to resign an extention with WWE because he blew a shitload of money on a private jet and other travel luxuries. He may be frugal now, at least the image he portrays is a frugal one, but 8mil isn't a whole lot of money if you're living a lavish lifestyle.
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I believe Brock at one point in time had to resign an extention with WWE because he blew a shitload of money on a private jet and other travel luxuries. He may be frugal now, at least the image he portrays is a frugal one, but 8mil isn't a whole lot of money if you're living a lavish lifestyle.
Translation : I want to suck Lesnar's cock.
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Translation : I want to suck Lesnar's cock.
Self projected Outing!
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Overeem is the bookies favorite, but he has no ground game. It might only take one takedown to decide this, and Lesnar's takedowns and ground and pound are more effective than Werdum's. Ultimately, Lesnar will probably do whats good for the franchise, meaning he'll throw the fight and let the Reem face Velasquez/Dos Santos then come back for the Mir rematch.
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I believe Brock at one point in time had to resign an extention with WWE because he blew a shitload of money on a private jet and other travel luxuries. He may be frugal now, at least the image he portrays is a frugal one, but 8mil isn't a whole lot of money if you're living a lavish lifestyle.
These days he seems to be living the polar opposite of a lavish lifestyle. Cannot compare it to when you're on the road 320 days a year with wwe.
Hes actually on a farm in canada working at the moment.
I honestly didn't think he would reaturn after everything thats happened. Combine almost dying twice With his wife having a new kid at the same time. I thought he would just want to stay at home and spend time with his family and go hunting etc.
I guess hes too competitive for that.
Might beat Overeem but Im not sure how he could beat Cain in the rematch..
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Overeem was also offered the winner between jds /cain as a title fight right away. But that means he had to wait for a long time. And he didn't want to do that so thats how the Lesnar fight came about.
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Overeem was also offered the winner between jds /cain as a title fight right away. But that means he had to wait for a long time. And he didn't want to do that so thats how the Lesnar fight came about.
Yeah. I think Dana like the mock-ups of Overeem on the box-cover of the next UFC Undisputed
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Overroids is gona win. Lesnar could take him down, but I just don't think that he has the strength to control Overroids on the ground. Also, Overroids is very good at getting submissions from his back - watch ADCC. Most likely, I think Lesnar will take him to the corner of the cage and try to get him down. Overroids will clinch and wear Brock down with knees to the ribs. Or, Overroids might use his greater reach and superior technical striking to pound Lesnar from afar and finish him in the first round. Brock will crawl into the fetal position like he always does when he is getting beaten and loses by TKO. He won't get knocked out though: Brock always give up before getting KOd.
My prediction = Overroids wins by TKO in the first round or wins by decision.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Overeem is the bookies favorite, but he has no ground game. It might only take one takedown to decide this, and Lesnar's takedowns and ground and pound are more effective than Werdum's. Ultimately, Lesnar will probably do whats good for the franchise, meaning he'll throw the fight and let the Reem face Velasquez/Dos Santos then come back for the Mir rematch.
I train with weights in the gym where overeem trains and being Dutch and mma fan I followed his career a bit and I can only say that he is an absolute monster. He just kills sparring partners which rotate all the time while he remains standing in the cage/ring.
1) No one should make random comments like many mainstream trolls and be taken seriously before you see www.thereem.com documentary only then do you understand the transformation in the fighter from overeem 1.0 Light heavywight to Ubereem 2.0 who is HW champion in K1, Strikeforce and Dream, and see the difference in fights from the 2006 and before vs 2008 and beyond
2) Overeems ground game is sick! He is originally a grappler before coming into mma, he only never needs it so it doesnt show in fights since his preference is standing up and finishing with KOs. His ground game and TDD is top.
In the gym he taps all bjj black he brings in, even ADC world champion Einemo confirmed his in several interviews. Since Werdums game is ground only Reem nutralised this by TDD and cage control while landing some shots.
3) Brock has to get huge respect for the fights he been through in life on both personal and mma level. Nothing but respect for the guy who still is relatively inexperienced in mma but gets thrown to all former champions. Of course anyday brock hits someones chin, no matter who they will go down but to be honest I think this ight is very, very bad for Brock. Overeem TDD is solid, if anyone can take him down its Brock but then when they are down Reem is very good at blocking submissions, doing submissions himself and getting up. Of course he gets cardio issues like anybody else stopping TDs the whole match like werdums, but Brock isnt gonna throw 100 TD attempts without gassing himself.
As soon as the bet comes on bwin I put the house on Reem since I expect him to have favourable odds to to brocks popularity.
My expectation is a really fast win for the Reem by hard KO in the first round by either punch combo standing or knee/guillotine while Brock shoots for the TD.
The fight most interesting to me would be reem vs cain, since I dont consider JDS standup game a threat for the K1 WGP champ. Cains allroundness and cardio are a threat for all HWs
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I hope his camp realises how deadly Overeems knees are in the clinch are trains on that (especially knees to the Head) . Because thats how Cain caught him.
the rest of the year is STACKED when it comes to MMA fight cards / fights
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Frank Mir supposedly had the best submissions game of any heavyweight ever; and Brock pounded Mir until he was KO'd.
We will see how good Overeem submissions are after a 270lb man punches him repeatedly in the face. Ask Frank Mir!
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Brocks health is failing cuz he can"t handle the gear, training etc. anymore....some guys burn out quicker than others
So if he comes in small and frail....he's a dead man, and I personally will enjoy watching him get beat to a pulp on Live PPV as Swede watches on, in abject horror
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Frank Mir supposedly had the best submissions game of any heavyweight ever; and Brock pounded Mir until he was KO'd.
By now lesnars BJJ is good. Lesnar coach is Rodrigo Medeiros and they have been training hard for a few years now. Combine that with his strenght and wrestling and he can probably neutralizemost most peoples bjj's. black belt or not. Gracie brothers did a nice breakdown also how be used bjj to his advantage very good against mir.
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Frank Mir supposedly had the best submissions game of any heavyweight ever; and Brock pounded Mir until he was KO'd.
We will see how good Overeem submissions are after a 270lb man punches him repeatedly in the face. Ask Frank Mir!
he ain't gonna be 270 ;)
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he ain't gonna be 270 ;)
264 against Cain. Doubt he will be smaller then that. And ofc is a bit heaver then that in the ring. But not the 285 like he used to be.
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he ain't gonna be 270 ;)
he always cuts weight to weigh in at 264-265. Then is 270-275 in the ring.
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264 against Cain. Doubt he will be smaller then that. And ofc is a bit heaver then that in the ring. But not the 285 like he used to be.
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How much does a foot of intestines weigh?
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264 against Cain. Doubt he will be smaller then that.
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He won't be the same guy....his health is failing
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He won't be the same guy....his health is failing
Brock looked pretty big in the hunting promo video he was in 2 weeks ago.
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He won't be the same guy....his health is failing
after they removed a lot of the intestine he might be feeling better then before?
And I dont think hes been he same guy since the first 1-2 fights. After the first time he got sick. When you're used to pounding away meat every single day and now youre almost a fucking "vegan". That has to take some enrgy and powet away.
Deserves everyones respect for taking these fucking fights over and over though. Balls of steel. Get beaten Bad by a striker and now faces a on the paper even better striker, after getting sick again, after srugery, and on his first fight back. No one besides brock would take on overeem as the first fight back.
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after they removed a lot of the intestine he might be feeling better then before?
And I dont think hes been he same guy since the first 1-2 fights. After the first time he got sick. When you're used to pounding away meat every single day and now youre almost a fucking "vegan". That has to take some enrgy and powet away.
Deserves everyones respect for taking these fucking fights over and over though. Balls of steel. Get beaten Bad by a striker and now faces a on the paper even better striker, after getting sick again, after srugery, and on his first fight back. No one besides brock would take on overeem as the first fight back.
Cain is a college wrestler turned MMA. He just kept it standing for the advantage over Brock. If overeem can do the same it'll likely be the same story.
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Cain is a college wrestler turned MMA. He just kept it standing for the advantage over Brock. If overeem can do the same it'll likely be the same story.
I know he is.
Doesnt change the fact that hes a "striker" also. and probably the best at hw.
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I know.
Doesnt change the fact that cain is probably the best striker at HW right now though now does it? which was my point..
Don't want to turn this into JDS/Cain but isn't the fact JDS trains with the national boxing team worth anything? I saw this fight as cain being more well-rounded and JDS having the striking advantage. Was expecting Cain to have the edge from top control whilst JDS will be busy trying to shoot the uppercut.
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Don't want to turn this into JDS/Cain but isn't the fact JDS trains with the national boxing team worth anything? I saw this fight as cain being more well-rounded and JDS having the striking advantage. Was expecting Cain to have the edge from top control whilst JDS will be busy trying to shoot the uppercut.
I said probably... Jds Might be better. I dont think so though but we have to wait and see. Hopefully Cain doesn't play it safe and just takes him down. Then again jds has good td defence if Im not misstaken
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Don't want to turn this into JDS/Cain but isn't the fact JDS trains with the national boxing team worth anything? I saw this fight as cain being more well-rounded and JDS having the striking advantage. Was expecting Cain to have the edge from top control whilst JDS will be busy trying to shoot the uppercut.
Im not super impressed that JDS had to get judges decisions with Roy Nelson and Shane Carwin.
I dont see JDS beating Velasquez.
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after they removed a lot of the intestine he might be feeling better then before?
And I dont think hes been he same guy since the first 1-2 fights. After the first time he got sick. When you're used to pounding away meat every single day and now youre almost a fucking "vegan". That has to take some enrgy and powet away.
Deserves everyones respect for taking these fucking fights over and over though. Balls of steel. Get beaten Bad by a striker and now faces a on the paper even better striker, after getting sick again, after srugery, and on his first fight back. No one besides brock would take on overeem as the first fight back.
Yes, he has balls.....and i got nothing against the guy, it's just fun being devils advocate......and he DID make himself look like a bitch ;)
but i don't think he's out of the woods health-wise, I think that all the gear, protein, narcos, and road lifestyle has caught up with him and his body can't handle it anymore. He's been doing this shit a while now.....how old is he?
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Im not super impressed that JDS had to get judges decisions with Roy Nelson and Shane Carwin.
I dont see JDS beating Velasquez.
the mess he made of carwin
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Yes, he has balls.....and i got nothing against the guy, it's just fun being devils advocate......and he DID make himself look like a bitch ;)
but i don't think he's out of the woods health-wise, I think that all the gear, protein, narcos, and road lifestyle has caught up with him and his body can't handle it anymore. He's been doing this shit a while now.....how old is he?
well he didnt tap and smiled afterwards. after the knee he probably didn't know where he was.
What road lifestyle are you talking about? the one he has years and years and years ago and Thats caught up with him Now? 34 :)
been either training wrestling, entertaintment wrestling (which is fucking worse then all of them combined) , mma since he was like 7 though (in that order), so hes been at it for while.
A part of why he left wwe was getting addicted to painkillers. Since there was No other way to perform each and every night with injuries.
I just hope hes healthy. I doubt brock would even say otherwise no matter how he felt. Maby after he retired he will come out and say "after the first illness and new diest I lost about 30% of my strenght" or something like that. wouldn't suprise me.
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the mess he made of carwin
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All that damage was done in round #1.
But he could not finish Carwin!! Carwin was actually doing decent in round #3.
It was like JDS didnt have the power to end the fight.
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well he didnt tap and smiled afterwards. after the knee he probably didn't know where he was.
What road lifestyle are you talking about? the one he has years and years and years ago and Thats caught up with him Now? 34 :)
been either training wrestling, entertaintment wrestling , mma since he was like 7 though, so hes been at it for while.
He got immortalized on this board and every other as the "pussy who ran the other way"...you will never change that perception Swede no matter how hard you try. :D
He just TOOK this fight, hasn't even fought yet, and you are already singing his praises from the rooftops again. Let's see what happens before you start dishing out blowjobs.....OK swede ?
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He got immortalized on this board and every other as the "pussy who ran the other way"...you will never change that perception Swede no matter how hard you try. :D
He just TOOK this fight, hasn't even fought yet, and you are already singing his praises from the rooftops again. Let's see what happens before you start dishing out blowjobs.....OK swede ? :D
On this board lol. where 98% have no clue what they're watching and what actually goes on..
"and you are already singing his praises from the rooftops again."
??? It's literally impossible to have a decent discussion here. I don't know why I even try
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On this board lol. where 98% have no clue what they're watching and what actually goes on..
"and you are already singing his praises from the rooftops again."
??? It's literally impossible to have a decent discussion here. I don't know why I even try
If a "decent discussion" means we all kiss Brocks ass and say how tough he is after he ran away in his last fight...then , yeah...not happening
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If a "decent discussion" means we all kiss Brocks ass and say how tough he is after he ran away in his last fight...then , yeah...not happening
In this thread you have seen me point out his weakness. How Overeem might beat him. what he probably should do to try to avoid it, and how I dont see him beating cain.. And all you have done is call hima "bitch"..
How is that "and you are already singing his praises from the rooftops again." you're littartly to upset with brock you cannot ven Read a post about hima nd actually See whats written.
Thats why It's impossible because your honestly too stupid.. Not even trying to attack.. just the truth.. :) ignorant and stupid. The fact that you're a grown man makes it kinda sad.
I dont even know why you're trying to discuss something you have No clue nor interest about... You're the Old version of tbombz..
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In this thread you have seen me point out his weaknesess. How Overeem might beat him. what he probably should do to try to avoid it, and how I dont see him beating cain..
How is that "and you are already singing his praises from the rooftops again." you're littartly to upset with brock you cannot ven Read a post about hima nd actually See whats written.
Thats why It's impossible because your honestly too stupid.. Not even tryign to attack.. just the truth.. :) ignorant and stupid.
or maybe I'm just busting your balls....and you're getting upset :)
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or maybe I'm just busting your balls....and you're getting upset :)
at first I thought so. But juding by your posts It obviously not the case anymore since you do it All the time. not "busting" anyone balls, nor trolling.. you're just that stupid...
..exactly like tbombz
And i'ts not that Im upset. It's just tiering when you're trying to have a decent discussion which kinda was going on until you, like you always to act stupid because you have nothing better to do..
keep doing it though if it makes you happy. I just realised Again that having a serious discussion here about mma is impossible..
you're a 40 yr old man trolling discussions on forums because you're not interested in the subject.. How sad isn't that Groink?
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He got immortalized on this board and every other as the "pussy who ran the other way"
I have watched the Lesnar/Velasquez fight like 20 times.
Cain had Lesnar against the fence... Lesnar shot a single leg takedown attempt... Cain moved out of the way... And a fatigued Lesnar stumbled as his momentuem carried him across the ring.
I did not see any running.
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at first I thought so. But juding by your posts It obviously not the case anymore since you do it All the time. not "busting" anyone balls, nor trolling.. you're just that stupid...
..exactly like tbombz
And i'ts not that Im upset. It's just tiering when you're trying to have a decent discussion which kinda was going on until you, like you always to act stupid..
Swede....I'm not one to come on here and proclaim how intelligent i am, I think it's ridiculous when the people here do it.
But stupid ??.....nah, not even close. I know exactly what I'm doing here ;)
and if i wanted to be an MMA "expert" like you it would take all of two weeks hanging around an MMA board....I have a passing interest in the sport at best
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2) Overeems ground game is sick! He is originally a grappler before coming into mma, he only never needs it so it doesnt show in fights since his preference is standing up and finishing with KOs. His ground game and TDD is top.
In the gym he taps all bjj black he brings in, even ADC world champion Einemo confirmed his in several interviews. Since Werdums game is ground only Reem nutralised this by TDD and cage control while landing some shots.
You're bringing more to the table here than most people. But I've not yet seen him looking dangerous on the ground. In what fights has he threatened submissions either in Strikeforce/Dream?
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Swede....I'm not one to come on here and proclaim how intelligent i am, I think it's ridiculous when the people here do it.
But stupid ??.....nah, not even close. I know exactly what I'm doing here ;)
and if i wanted to be an MMA "expert" like you it would take all of two weeks hanging around an MMA board....I have a passing interest in the sport at best
I will just stop responding to you from now on.. But do continue to be the only 40 year old troll gb has if it makes you happy. I just hope at 40 Im finding happyness from something else then that.
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I don't understand the hate for Brock. The guy is a tough son of a bitch. He won the heavyweight title with only a couple years of experience under his belt. All of his fights but one are pretty damn impressive. The guy is a warrior he's no coward like people try to make him out to be.
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You're bringing more to the table here than most people. But I've not yet seen him looking dangerous on the ground. In what fights has he threatened submissions either in Strikeforce/Dream?
No need to go to the ground when you beat people standing and Its more exciting for the fans..
He probably has the deadliest giljotin among the Hw's also.
He also has 20 wins by submission. And jon olav einemo says hes great on the ground.
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I will just stop responding to you from nowjavascript:void(0); on.. But do continue to be the only 40 year old troll gb has if it makes you happy. I just hope at 40 Im finding happyness from something else then that.
LOLOLOL.....and here we go with the "personal" stuff when I pwn you. predictable as ND defending Dorian's stridated ass
I know...I have no life because i post here .Because EVERYBODY else here posts between blowjobs from supermodels while flying coast-to-coast in their G6....while I'm crying as i post from my basement....poor groink :'( ::) ::)
You ever want to compare material posessions, GFs, cars,Professions, physiques, vacations....anything at all....let me know shorty ;) 8)
you live in some shiity studio apartment, the only thing you own is a fucking TV and a gaming console, you have no job, and you beat up drunken bums for fun....yeah, you're really living life to the fullest ::) ::).
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No need to go to the ground when you beat people standing and Its more exciting for the fans..
He probably has the deadliest giljotin among the Hw's also.
He also has 20 wins by submission. And jon olav einemo says hes great on the ground.
Yeah but was this a submission of an opponent downed by strikes? Don't see this as the same as a hard-fought ground battle.
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Yeah but was this a submission of an opponent downed by strikes? Don't see this as the same as a hard-fought ground battle.
HE has wins by kimura, tringle, armbar etc. I doubt all of them came from right after he knocked someone down.
Hes also 2005 ADCC European Champion. So he knows what to do on the ground :)
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he has kimura wins and armbar wins etc. I doubt all of them came from right after he knocked someone down.
Hes also 2005 ADCC European Champion. So he knows what to do on the ground :)
Not seen many of his earlier fights either eh? I think we're talking about a different animal after he bumped up the gh dose and won the K1.
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Not seen many of his earlier fights either eh? I think we're talking about a different animal after he bumped up the gh dose and won the K1.
I dont understand your point..?
Hes good on the ground.. But has has no reason to take fights there latley..
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HE has wins by kimura, tringle, armbar etc. I doubt all of them came from right after he knocked someone down.
Hes also 2005 ADCC European Champion. So he knows what to do on the ground :)
do you know what to do on the ground when your boyfriend puts his penis in your mouth ?
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I dont understand your point..?
Hes good on the ground.. But has has no reason to take fights there latley..
I've not seen enough of his ground offense to judge either way. The (very obvious) point was Lesnar would have a big advantage on the ground though equally obviously Overeem's not defenseless. He'll almost certainly get tested againast lesnar.
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Im very interested to see what Antonio Silva has to say about this fight between Brock and Overeem.
I know Antonio said he wanted to fight Brock. Then he suggested that Brock might not be suffering from diverticulitis; and that he was ducking Junior Dos Santos.
I think Antonio or Josh Barnett was supposed to fight Overeem in strikeforce. But then Overeem drops out due to injury. Then BOOM ----> he signs to fight Brock in the UFC.
Weird.
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Overroids is gona win. Lesnar could take him down, but I just don't think that he has the strength to control Overroids on the ground. Also, Overroids is very good at getting submissions from his back - watch ADCC. Most likely, I think Lesnar will take him to the corner of the cage and try to get him down. Overroids will clinch and wear Brock down with knees to the ribs. Or, Overroids might use his greater reach and superior technical striking to pound Lesnar from afar and finish him in the first round. Brock will crawl into the fetal position like he always does when he is getting beaten and loses by TKO. He won't get knocked out though: Brock always give up before getting KOd.
My prediction = Overroids wins by TKO in the first round or wins by decision.
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Did you miss the match with Werdum? Cos Overeem looked total shit.The guy is all hype.You can say Werdum lay down half the time, but the other half he out struck this 'super striker'.Hes nothing but a heavily muscled guy whos an average MMA fighter.He will get found out soon enough when he fights decent opposition.Beating Todd Duffee doesnt mean your a great fghter ::)
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Did you miss the match with Werdum? Cos Overeem looked total shit.The guy is all hype.You can say Werdum lay down half the time, but the other half he out struck this 'super striker'.Hes nothing but a heavily muscled guy whos an average MMA fighter.He will get found out soon enough when he fights decent opposition.Beating Todd Duffee doesnt mean your a great fghter ::)
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I've not seen enough of his ground offense to judge either way. The (very obvious) point was Lesnar would have a big advantage on the ground though equally obviously Overeem's not defenseless. He'll almost certainly get tested againast lesnar.
Since Brock neutralized mir's bjj without breaking a sweat, he should be able to control overeem enough to alnd sone gnp imo
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Interesting fight. Brock is a big mofo. Needs to take Reem off his feet and that will be his obvious gameplan. I don't know if Reem can handle Brock driving those hammerfists into his skull.
Lesnar-Round 1 by TKO.
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Interesting fight. Brock is a big mofo. Needs to take Reem off his feet and that will be his obvious gameplan. I don't know if Reem can handle Brock driving those hammerfists into his skull.
Lesnar-Round 1 by TKO.
That's a bolder fucking prediction than I'd want to make. The UFC needs a good kickboxer to carry the flag.
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The winner of this is the guy who bench presses the most - simple!
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You're bringing more to the table here than most people. But I've not yet seen him looking dangerous on the ground. In what fights has he threatened submissions either in Strikeforce/Dream?
Didntneed it in sf as his standup was enough
I believemin dream he had some eg guillotine on james thompson
Earlier fight i recall armbars on marc hunt see highlight youtube or wikipedia
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That's a bolder fucking prediction than I'd want to make. The UFC needs a good kickboxer to carry the flag.
I know it's bold. ;D It's almost being made to insight the anti-brock posters on here.
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brock is going to destroy overeem the more i think about people have to realise brock has only fought 7 time or so he is still prone to making mistake and on top of that many of his fight where completely one sided. he is not going any where no time soon barring health problems he is a big time draw mabey the biggest in the ufc. I am suprised people on the boards dont like him more he is some what represting us weight lifters and showing with raw power and athletic abiltiy it is posible to overcome superior technique
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Recent odds for this fight put them on even money.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/25109/ufc-141-odds-brock-lesnar-and-alistair-overeem-open-dead-even-at-115.mma (http://mmajunkie.com/news/25109/ufc-141-odds-brock-lesnar-and-alistair-overeem-open-dead-even-at-115.mma)
Overeem has a far better mma pedigree and significantly more experience, so what tilts the odds-makers Lesnar's way?
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overeem by KO 2nd round
knee to the face
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Overeem is going to knock Cock Chestnar out cold....and then pull his penis out and lay it across Brock's face as all his friends take pictures
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You got to give this man credit he doesn't take any easy fights.
Takes on a former UFC champion Mir in his second fight ever. Then he takes on Health Herring who isn't exactly a pussy, Couture and Mir again
Suffers life threatening illness, comes back from illness and fights Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez within a few months of eachother
Gets sick again and has 10 inches of his colon removed and is fighting Ovewreem in his return match. You think they would give him someone a little bit easier for his return fight. Nope Brock only fights the toughest mfers in the world.
In all honesty.. All fighters want hard fights.. Who wants to fight a scrub..? He's a big ,big name.. He isn't that good,but I believe he'll do o.k. after seeing the Verdum fight..
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The winner of this is the guy who bench presses the most - simple!
no but if you pick the person that can bench the most you will win more times then not
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Did you miss the match with Werdum? Cos Overeem looked total shit.The guy is all hype.You can say Werdum lay down half the time, but the other half he out struck this 'super striker'.Hes nothing but a heavily muscled guy whos an average MMA fighter.He will get found out soon enough when he fights decent opposition.Beating Todd Duffee doesnt mean your a great fghter ::)
Oh yes it does, the Duffster is a beast
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In all honesty.. All fighters want hard fights.. Who wants to fight a scrub..? He's a big ,big name.. He isn't that good,but I believe he'll do o.k. after seeing the Verdum fight..
Rickson Gracie?
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By now lesnars BJJ is good. Lesnar coach is Rodrigo Medeiros and they have been training hard for a few years now. Combine that with his strenght and wrestling and he can probably neutralizemost most peoples bjj's. black belt or not. Gracie brothers did a nice breakdown also how be used bjj to his advantage very good against mir.
You're nuts.. He can train ju jitsu for the rest of his life.. He'll never get it.. He's been wrestling since he was a kid,and got out wrestled by Velasquez.. He's been working on his Jits as long as his stand up,and we saw what happened.. Not to mention,he really has not been training that often...Just recovering from his health problems.. I wish him the best.. But he no longer has the fury and passion he had before.. He still has his god given strength,and that will carry him a long long way..But he's that strong,because he is a huge man. I don't think he's freakishly strong,just freakishly big.. But don't get me wrong......!? He'll tie me up in to a pretzel,if he wanted to.. I mean him in comparison to other gifted athletes..