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What are the Republican thoughts on here about Palin still not announcing her intentions to run or not?
Do you think it's hurtful to the party that she hasn't announced? I think it could be seen as distracting, given the fact that there are already so many still in the running. Wouldn't it be better to settle on a candidate sooner rather than later?
Personally, I don't think she's going to run, or she would have said so this past weekend.
If she ends up not running, do you think it would be disingenuous and just a way of her making more money while leading people on? I know there are many people still attending her rallies pretty convinced that she is just waiting a while to tell everyone.
Once she admits she will not, if that's indeed what happens, do you think that she will have been at least a little dishonest with people expecting her to run and giving her support?
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What are the Republican thoughts on here about Palin still not announcing her intentions to run or not?
Do you think it's hurtful to the party that she hasn't announced? I think it could be seen as distracting, given the fact that there are already so many still in the running. Wouldn't it be better to settle on a candidate sooner rather than later?
Personally, I don't think she's going to run, or she would have said so this past weekend.
If she ends up not running, do you think it would be disingenuous and just a way of her making more money while leading people on? I know there are many people still attending her rallies pretty convinced that she is just waiting a while to tell everyone.
Once she admits she will not, if that's indeed what happens, do you think that she will have been at least a little dishonest with people expecting her to run and giving her support?
I think she's going to run and might actually shoot up there with Perry. Perry's history makes Palin look good lol... She's not even running now and polling higher than Paul, Newt, Santorum etc.. How much would she jump if running.
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So you think it's a strategic wait? Maybe so.
Perhaps that does make some sense, let all these candidates trash each other for a while and then come in fresh.
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So you think it's a strategic wait? Maybe so.
Perhaps that does make some sense, let all these candidates trash each other for a while and then come in fresh.
I think that's exactly what she is doing but it has risk if she waits to long. She should say one way or the other soon.
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What are the Republican thoughts on here about Palin still not announcing her intentions to run or not?
Do you think it's hurtful to the party that she hasn't announced? I think it could be seen as distracting, given the fact that there are already so many still in the running. Wouldn't it be better to settle on a candidate sooner rather than later?
Personally, I don't think she's going to run, or she would have said so this past weekend.
If she ends up not running, do you think it would be disingenuous and just a way of her making more money while leading people on? I know there are many people still attending her rallies pretty convinced that she is just waiting a while to tell everyone.
Once she admits she will not, if that's indeed what happens, do you think that she will have been at least a little dishonest with people expecting her to run and giving her support?
She won't run.
She's not a viable candidate.
Doubt you know shit about what people at her rallies think or want.
240 still wants to fuck her oh-so-bad, and can't. So he'll continue crying about her wrongly spelling words on twitter and continue making other "substantive" criticisms.
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She could still run. She'll have plenty of money, and there's still time.
She would put it off as long as possible - to avoid debates.
I still think she believes she's the best person for the job.
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AND - I "betcha" that she could and would use the tough questions that the NBC moderators will throw at the candidates to justify an "alternative" running style - in which she could actually choose to SKIP the GOP debates.
i could seriously see her trying that kind of thing. Every night of the GOp debate, doing her own "alternative" event. Woudln't that be a hoot?
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I still like her a ton. she checks off most of the boxes in my book.
Patriot, business experience, governor, pro energy , middle class upbringing, reaganite, pro military, pro gun, clean record w o corruption, vetted, etc.
I would have no problem supporting her and volunteering for her.
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She won't run.
She's not a viable candidate.
Doubt you know shit about what people at her rallies think or want.
240 still wants to fuck her oh-so-bad, and can't. So he'll continue crying about her wrongly spelling words on twitter and continue making other "substantive" criticisms.
I read what they say? How else should I know?
Maybe you need to smoke a joint and chill the fvck out.
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She could still run. She'll have plenty of money, and there's still time.
She would put it off as long as possible - to avoid debates.
I still think she believes she's the best person for the job.
I don't think she's worried about debates as much as she was before. She was launched onto the national stage quickly before. At this point she's going to be much more prepared than she was after short warning and being tossed out there.
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Yep, she's got all the platitudes memorized at this point.
Couldn't develop policy to save her life, but she'll use rote memorization of others' theories enough to fool those drooling over her.
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I read what they say? How else should I know?
Maybe you need to smoke a joint and chill the fvck out.
Can't, I'm in a drug tested position. :P
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Yep, she's got all the platitudes memorized at this point.
Couldn't develop policy to save her life, but she'll use rote memorization of others' theories enough to fool those drooling over her.
Well, that's at least one thing she has in common with President Downgrade.
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I don't think she's worried about debates as much as she was before. He was launched onto the national stage quickly before. At this point she's going to be much more prepared than she was after short warning and being tossed out there.
I think she prides herself so much on the 'renegade' thing...
and she knows that the field is weak...
but she doesn't want to look stupid and HIGHLY HATES any environment which she cannot control.
I bet she still runs. I bet she just can't resist. taking shots at perry AND mitt in the same week? She's not looking to unite shit - she's cutting down her peers.
She'll use abrasive questions in the NBC debate as the 'final straw'. Watch :) She'll completely try to avoid debates, claiming "I'd much rather connect with REAL PEOPLE instead of dealing with the corporate media". Then she'll have tightly controlled 'town halls' with controlled Qs where ppl have to address her as governor.
FOX will revel in her "rebel" attitude. it'll be an entertaining sideshow. It'll tear up the GOP and obama will win easily in 2012.
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You sound salivating at the prospect.
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I think she prides herself so much on the 'renegade' thing...
and she knows that the field is weak...
but she doesn't want to look stupid and HIGHLY HATES any environment which she cannot control.
I bet she still runs. I bet she just can't resist. taking shots at perry AND mitt in the same week? She's not looking to unite shit - she's cutting down her peers.
She'll use abrasive questions in the NBC debate as the 'final straw'. Watch :) She'll completely try to avoid debates, claiming "I'd much rather connect with REAL PEOPLE instead of dealing with the corporate media". Then she'll have tightly controlled 'town halls' with controlled Qs where ppl have to address her as governor.
FOX will revel in her "rebel" attitude. it'll be an entertaining sideshow. It'll tear up the GOP and obama will win easily in 2012.
Points you make are well made for the fact that she is going to run. She wouldn't be out there on the attack if she wasn't announcing.
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You sound salivating at the prospect.
nope. But if I try to picture why she keeps "showing up" to be seen at these events, trashing everyone, and telling us she isn't happy with the field running...
it seems like a likely outcome. She'll wait til right before or after the Reagan debate to announce it, though, so she can skip the debate ;)
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nope. But if I try to picture why she keeps "showing up" to be seen at these events, trashing everyone, and telling us she isn't happy with the field running...
it seems like a likely outcome. She'll wait til right before or after the Reagan debate to announce it, though, so she can skip the debate ;)
I still like her. if it's her or Obama, I am walking over hot coals for her.
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Points you make are well made for the fact that she is going to run. She wouldn't be out there on the attack if she wasn't announcing.
thank you sir.
I remember her stealing Mitt's limelight by showing up the smae day as his announcement, 5 minutes away. Classless.
IF IF IF she was going to run (and I predict she will) - Would there be ANY better time in 2011 to announce, than right outside the reagan library debate - stealing all the limelight from perry and everyone else?
It'd be the news story of the month, if not the year. and she'd piggyback Reagan to do it!
Place your bets now, champs... does she announce she's running THIS WEEK - yes or no?
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240 will be in overdrive if she runs.
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thank you sir.
I remember her stealing Mitt's limelight by showing up the smae day as his announcement, 5 minutes away. Classless.
IF IF IF she was going to run (and I predict she will) - Would there be ANY better time in 2011 to announce, than right outside the reagan library debate - stealing all the limelight from perry and everyone else?
It'd be the news story of the month, if not the year. and she'd piggyback Reagan to do it!
Place your bets now, champs... does she announce she's running THIS WEEK - yes or no?
I wouldn't call it classless what she did to Mitt, that's just good political planning. It only had the drawback from the standpoint that she pretended it wasn't intentional which just looked bad.
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240 will be in overdrive if she runs.
make a prediction, homie.
1) She will announce she's running - this week.
2) She will not announce she's running - this week.
3) You don't have the minerals to even fancy a guess :)
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make a prediction, homie.
1) She will announce she's running - this week.
2) She will not announce she's running - this week.
3) You don't have the minerals to even fancy a guess :)
I think she does not run. If she does, I bet she runs away with the nomination though easily.
No one gets the troops fired up for battle like she does and she has no skeletons left and is fearless in her calling out the obama junta.
She is a middle class reaganite and common sense conservative and patriot. I prefer her over Romney and perry, that's for sure.
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What are the Republican thoughts on here about Palin still not announcing her intentions to run or not?
Do you think it's hurtful to the party that she hasn't announced? I think it could be seen as distracting, given the fact that there are already so many still in the running. Wouldn't it be better to settle on a candidate sooner rather than later?
Personally, I don't think she's going to run, or she would have said so this past weekend.
If she ends up not running, do you think it would be disingenuous and just a way of her making more money while leading people on? I know there are many people still attending her rallies pretty convinced that she is just waiting a while to tell everyone.
Once she admits she will not, if that's indeed what happens, do you think that she will have been at least a little dishonest with people expecting her to run and giving her support?
I think its terrific that she has the bicycle seat sniffing genital warts in the MSM hounding her every move like a bunch of inbred rabid dogs-- bumping into each other and going through her garbage, following her bus around-- its hysterical. Nice bit of payback on her part. Kudos to her for making these bottom feeders look stupid.
Even more humorous though, is your effeminate reaction and contrived outrage--- Were you always this much of a sissy?
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make a prediction, homie.
1) She will announce she's running - this week.
2) She will not announce she's running - this week.
3) You don't have the minerals to even fancy a guess :)
4) Doesn't give a shit either way because he will support whatever candidate wins even if it's turd.
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4) Doesn't give a shit either way because he will support whatever candidate wins even if it's turd.
Don't forget pedo serial killer.
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Don't forget pedo serial killer.
huh ???
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huh ???
I would vote for a pedo serial killer over Obama too.
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I would vote for a pedo serial killer over Obama too.
oh yea, I'm sure... :-\
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I would vote for a pedo serial killer over Obama too.
yeah, pretty good chance the dude would be a repub too.
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Sarah Palin has yet to announce her 2012 presidential plans. Either way, one prominent conservative sees the former Alaska governor entering the presidential race.
Former George W. Bush adviser Karl Rove appeared on Fox News Saturday morning, voicing his views that Palin will throw her hat into the 2012 ring. Rove cited her schedule as a key factor, noting that it looks more like that of a 'candidate' than a 'celebrity'.
The Washington Examiner highlights that schedule theory. Palin is set to appear in Iowa on September 3, serving as the keynote speaker at the Tea Party of America's "Restoring America" event.
"This is her last chance," Rove said on the broadcast. "She either gets in or gets out after this visit next week. I think she gets in."
Rove's forecast comes one day after Palin released a new video highlighting her Iowa travels. Entitled "Iowa Passion," the ex-Vice Presidential candidate profiles Iowans who explain why she is "a normal person just like every one of us."
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she's giving speeches in NH and Iowa.
she's releasing videos called "Iowa Passion"
she's trashing the top 2 repubs that are running.
Oh geez, how can anyone even doubt she's running?
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Or:
What's up next for former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin regarding the 2012 presidential election?
Well, if you're thinking that Sarah Palin will soon join the field of Republican hopefuls seeking the party's nod to challenge President Barack Obama, think again.
More than likely, the not-running-but-I-may-be-running-I-haven't-decided-whether-to-run Palin will remain in precisely that status.
Here's why -- from least to most important -- Palin is not running, but won't announce, for a long time, that she's not running,
5. "Palin Inc." If and as soon as Gov. Palin said she's not running, the stock value or marketing value of "Palin Inc." would drop substantially.
Speaking fees, other future royalties, and related perks are considerably higher for a public figure who may obtain a major political party's nomination for the U.S. presidency. Media coverage also would decrease, and that can affect book sales, hence from a brand-value standpoint, don't expect Palin to announce that she's not running until she absolutely has to.
4. Status in the Tea Party faction. By not announcing that she's not running, Palin remains the de-facto leader -- or at least the co-leader along with U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn. -- of the Tea Party faction of the Republican Party.
As soon as Palin announces that she's not running, again, there would be an inevitable loyalty transfer by least some Tea Party voters from Palin to Bachmann, who is running for the 2012 Republican nomination.
3. Leverage over the 2012 GOP nominee. By extension, by not announcing that she's not running, Palin retains leverage over Tea Party faction delegates to the 2012 Republican Party Convention.
That leverage could prove to be pivotal, if, in the unlikely event one of the curent Republican candidates does not secure a majority of the delegates before the convention in Tampa, Fla., in September, and the result is a brokered convention.
Also, even if a Republican secures a majority of the delegates (likely), Palin could still threaten to recommend that her Tea Party delegates not apportioned by popular primaries not support the presumptive Republican Party nominee until Palin gets a plum or two. These could include: changes in the party's platform, a commitment by the nominee to support any one or several Tea Party faction causes (commitment to an amendment to the U.S. Constitution calling for a balanced budget, a no tax increase pledge, or some other commitment to cut federal spending).
Brokered convention or not, Palin wants to hold influence over Tea Party delegates to the 2012 Republican convention certainly through the convention's end.
2. Jockey for cabinet post, or more. By not announcing that she's not running, Palin can also threaten to recommend that her Tea Party delegates not support the presumptive Republican Party nominee until she is guaranteed a U.S. Cabinet post in any Republican administration or some other plum. Palin may even attempt to bargain for a vice presidential nomination from the presumptive 2012 Republican nominee.
1. 2012 GOP election math. Finally, the main reason Palin will not announce that she's not running is electoral. Palin, at this stage, only has a slight chance of securing the GOP nod, hence a Palin-GOP run won't occur.
Even more significant, Palin will not run as a third-party candidate, a la former Alabama Gov. George Wallace or business executive Ross Perot, as the Tea Party's nominee, or even on an unaffiliated ticket, such as a "Palin Party" or "One America" party, and the reason is obvious enough: A third-party run would divide or at least fracture the conservative vote, making it much more likely that President Obama would win re-election.
Above all, Palin does not want to splinter the conservative vote.
Palin-tology
Therefore, look for Palin to maintain her current "haven't decided" status. Moreover, in the history of modern U.S. presidential campaigns, Palin may set the record for the longest "haven't decided" of any potential presidential candidate.
From Palin's standpoint, her best move is to not make one.
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newt and rudy both sank their names by running.
IMO, they were both a shitload smarter than palin and way more experienced and prepared for office.
And they still made the mistake and sunk their profile as a result.
Are you saying palin is smarter than them?
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newt and rudy both sank their names by running.
IMO, they were both a shitload smarter than palin and way more experienced and prepared for office.
And they still made the mistake and sunk their profile as a result.
Are you saying palin is smarter than them?
If you are replying to me, I wouldn't use the term smarter, I'd say very cunning.
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yeah, pretty good chance the dude would be a repub too.
LOLOLLOLOLOL!!!
No doubt