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Title: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Fury on September 08, 2011, 04:17:56 PM
Roughly 30 seconds here.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 04:24:41 PM
Doing work now - listening on the radio - pathetically juvenile and patronizing. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 04:26:08 PM
I knew it! ! ! !


He just fucking did it - that stupid ass voice where he tries to sound sincere and convincing. 


Pathetic! 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 04:28:09 PM
Millionaires and Billionaires - BARF! 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:39:01 PM
Did anyone watch it?
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 08:39:42 PM
NFL
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
TRANSCRIPT: Obama's Speech on Jobs Plan
Published September 08, 2011
FoxNews.com

The following are President Obama's remarks on his jobs plan as delivered to Congress on Sept. 8, 2011:

Thank you so much. Everyone, please have a seat. Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Vice President, members of Congress, and fellow Americans, tonight we meet at an urgent time for our country. We continue to face an economic crisis that has left millions of our neighbors jobless and a political crisis that's made things worse.

This past week, reporters have been asking, "What will this speech mean for the president? What will it mean for Congress? How will it affect their polls and the next election?"

But the millions of Americans who are watching right now, they don't care about politics. They have real-life concerns. Many have spent months looking for work. Others are doing their best just to scrape by, giving up nights out with the family to save on gas or make the mortgage, postponing retirement to send a kid to college.

These men and women grew up with faith in an America where hard work and responsibility paid off. They believed in a country where everyone gets a fair shake and does their fair share, where if you stepped up, did your job, and were loyal to your company, that loyalty would be rewarded with a decent salary and good benefits, maybe a raise once in awhile. If you did the right thing, you could make it -- anybody could make it in America.

But for decades now, Americans have watched that compact erode. They have seen the decks too often stacked against them. And they know that Washington has not always put their interests first.

The people of this country work hard to meet their responsibilities. The question tonight is whether we'll meet ours. The question is whether -- in the face of an ongoing national crisis -- we can stop the political circus and actually do something to help the economy.

(APPLAUSE)

The question -- the question is whether we can restore some of the fairness and security that has defined this nation since our beginning.

Those of us here tonight can't solve all our nation's woes. Ultimately, our recovery will be driven not by Washington, but by our businesses and our workers. But we can help. We can make a difference. There are steps we can take right now to improve people's lives.

I am sending this Congress a plan that you should pass right away. It's called the American Jobs Act. There should be nothing controversial about this piece of legislation. Everything in here is the kind of proposal that's been supported by both Democrats and Republicans, including many who sit here tonight, and everything in this bill will be paid for, everything.

(APPLAUSE)

The purpose of the American Jobs Act is simple: to put more people back to work and more money in the pockets of those who are working. It will create more jobs for construction workers, more jobs for teachers, more jobs for veterans, and more jobs for long-term unemployed. It will provide...

(APPLAUSE)

It will provide a tax break for companies who hire new workers, and it will cut payroll taxes in half for every working American and every small business.

(APPLAUSE)

It will provide a jolt to an economy that has stalled and give companies confidence that, if they invest and if they hire, there will be customers for their products and services. You should pass this jobs plan right away.

(APPLAUSE)

Everyone here knows that small businesses are where most new jobs begin. And you know that while corporate profits have come roaring back, smaller companies haven't. So for everyone who speaks so passionately about making life easier for "job-creators," this plan's for you. Pass this jobs bill.

(APPLAUSE)

Pass this jobs bill, and starting tomorrow, small businesses will get a tax cut if they hire new workers or if they raise workers' wages. Pass this jobs bill, and all small-business owners will also see their payroll taxes cut in half next year. If you have 50 employees...

(APPLAUSE)

If you have 50 employees making an average salary, that's an $80,000 tax cut. And all businesses will be able to continue writing off the investments they make in 2012.

It's not just Democrats who have supported this kind of proposal. Fifty House Republicans have proposed the same payroll tax cut that's in this plan. You should pass it right away.

(APPLAUSE)

Pass this jobs bill, and we can put people to work rebuilding America. Everyone here knows we have badly decaying roads and bridges all over this country. Our highways are clogged with traffic. Our skies are the most congested in the world. It's an outrage.

Building a world-class transportation system is part of what made us an economic superpower. And now we're going to sit back and watch China build newer airports and faster railroads, at a time when millions of unemployed construction workers could build them right here in America?

(APPLAUSE)

There...

(APPLAUSE)

There are private construction companies all across America just waiting to get to work. There's a bridge that needs repair between Ohio and Kentucky that's on one of the busiest trucking routes in North America, a public transit project in Houston that will help clear up one of the worst areas of traffic in the country.

And there are schools throughout this country that desperately need renovating. How can we expect our kids to do their best in places that are literally falling apart? This is America. Every child deserves a great school, and we can give it to them, if we act now.

(APPLAUSE)

The American Jobs Act will repair and modernize at least 35,000 schools. It will put people to work right now fixing roofs and windows, installing science labs and high-speed Internet in classrooms all across this country. It will rehabilitate homes and businesses in communities hit hardest by foreclosures. It will jump-start thousands of transportation projects all across the country.

And to make sure the money is properly spent, we're building on reforms we've already put in place. No more earmarks. No more boondoggles. No more Bridges to Nowhere. We're cutting the red tape that prevents some of these projects from getting started as quickly as possible. And we'll set up an independent fund to attract private dollars and issue loans based on two criteria: how badly a construction project is needed and how much good it will do for the economy.

(APPLAUSE)

This idea came from a bill written by a Texas Republican and a Massachusetts Democrat. The idea for a big boost in construction is supported by America's largest business organization and America's largest labor organization. It's the kind of proposal that's been supported in the past by Democrats and Republicans alike. You should pass it right away.

(APPLAUSE)

Pass this jobs bill, and thousands of teachers in every state will go back to work. These are the men and women charged with preparing our children for a world where the competition has never been tougher.

But while they're adding teachers in places like South Korea, we're laying them off in droves. It's unfair to our kids; it undermines their future and ours. And it has to stop. Pass this bill, and put our teachers back in the classroom where they belong.

(APPLAUSE)

Pass this jobs bill, and companies will get extra tax credits if they hire America's veterans. We ask these men and women to leave their careers, leave their families, risk their lives to fight for our country. The last thing they should have to do is fight for a job when they come home.

(APPLAUSE)

OBAMA: Pass this bill, and hundreds of thousands of disadvantaged young people will have the hope and the dignity of a summer job next year. And their parents...

(APPLAUSE)

... their parents, low-income Americans who desperately want to work, will have more ladders out of poverty.

Pass this jobs bill, and companies will get a $4,000 tax credit if they hire anyone who has spent more than six months looking for a job.

(APPLAUSE)

We -- we have to do more to help the long-term unemployed in their search for work. This jobs plan builds on a program in Georgia that several Republican leaders have highlighted, where people who collect unemployment insurance participate in temporary work as a way to build their skills while they look for a permanent job.

The plan also extends unemployment insurance for another year.

(APPLAUSE)

If the millions of unemployed Americans stopped getting this insurance and stopped using that money for basic necessities, it would be a devastating blow to this economy. Democrats and Republicans in this chamber have supported unemployment insurance plenty of times in the past. And in this time of prolonged hardship, you should pass it again, right away.

(APPLAUSE)

Pass this jobs bill, and the typical working family will get a $1,500 tax cut next year, $1,500 that would have been taken out of your pocket will go into your pocket. This expands on the tax cut that Democrats and Republicans already passed for this year.

If we allow that tax cut to expire, if we refuse to act, middle- class families will get hit with a tax increase at the worst possible time. We can't let that happen.

I know that some of you have sworn oaths to never raise any taxes on anyone for as long as you live. Now is not the time to carve out an exception and raise middle-class taxes, which is why you should pass this bill right away.

(APPLAUSE)

This is the American Jobs Act. It will lead to new jobs for construction workers, for teachers, for veterans, for first responders, young people, and the long-term unemployed. It will provide tax credits to companies that hire new workers, tax relief to small-business owners, and tax cuts for the middle-class.

And here's the other thing I want the American people to know: The American Jobs Act will not add to the deficit. It will be paid for. And here's how.

(APPLAUSE)

The agreement we passed in July will cut government spending by about $1 trillion over the next 10 years. It also charges this Congress to come up with an additional $1.5 trillion in savings by Christmas. Tonight, I'm asking you to increase that amount so that it covers the full cost of the American Jobs Act. And a week from Monday, I'll be releasing a more ambitious deficit plan, a plan that will not only cover the cost of this jobs bill, but stabilize our debt in the long run.

(APPLAUSE)

This approach is basically the one I've been advocating for months. In addition to the trillion dollars of spending cuts I've already signed into law, it's a balanced plan that would reduce the deficit by making additional spending cuts, by making modest adjustments to health care programs like Medicare and Medicaid, and by reforming our tax code in a way that asks the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay their fair share.

(APPLAUSE)

What's more, the spending cuts wouldn't happen so abruptly that they'd be a drag on our economy or prevent us from helping small businesses and middle-class families get back on their feet right away.

Now, I realize there are some in my party who don't think we should make any changes at all to Medicare and Medicaid, and I understand their concerns. But here's the truth: Millions of Americans rely on Medicare in their retirement. And millions more will do so in the future. They pay for this benefit during their working years; they earn it.

But with an aging population and rising health care costs, we are spending too fast to sustain the program. And if we don't gradually reform the system, while protecting current beneficiaries, it won't be there when future retirees need it. We have to reform Medicare to strengthen it.

I'm also...

(APPLAUSE)

I'm also well aware that there are many Republicans who don't believe we should raise taxes on those who are most fortunate and can best afford it. But here's what every American knows: While most people in this country struggle to make ends meet, a few of the most affluent citizens and most profitable corporations enjoy tax breaks and loopholes that nobody else gets.

Right now, Warren Buffett pays a lower tax rate than his secretary, an outrage he has asked us to fix. We need a tax code where everyone gets a fair shake and where everybody pays their fair share.

(APPLAUSE)

And, by the way, I believe the vast majority of wealthy Americans and CEOs are willing to do just that, if it helps the economy grow and gets our fiscal house in order.

I'll also offer ideas to reform a corporate tax code that stands as a monument to special interest influence in Washington. By eliminating pages of loopholes and deductions, we can lower one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world.

(APPLAUSE)

Our tax code should not give an advantage to companies that can afford the best-connected lobbyists. It should give an advantage to companies that invest and create jobs right here in the United States of America.

(APPLAUSE)

So we can reduce this deficit, pay down our debt, and pay for this jobs plan in the process. But in order to do this, we have to decide what our priorities are. We have to ask ourselves, "What's the best way to grow the economy and create jobs?"

Should we keep tax loopholes for oil companies, or should we use that money to give small-business owners a tax credit when they hire new workers? Because we can't afford to do both.

Should we keep tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires, or should we put teachers back to work so our kids can graduate ready for college and good jobs?

(APPLAUSE)

Right now, we can't afford to do both.

This isn't political grandstanding. This isn't class warfare.

(LAUGHTER)

This is simple math. These are real choices. These are real choices that we've got to make. And I'm pretty sure I know what most Americans would choose. It's not even close. And it's time for us to do what's right for our future.

(APPLAUSE)

Now, the American Jobs Act answers the urgent need to create jobs right away. But we can't stop there. As I've argued since I ran for this office, we have to look beyond the immediate crisis and start building an economy that lasts into the future, an economy that creates good, middle-class jobs that pay well and offer security.

We now live in a world where technology has made it possible for companies to take their business anywhere. If we want them to start here and stay here and hire here, we have to be able to out-build, and out-educate, and out-innovate every other country on Earth.

(APPLAUSE)

This task, of making America more competitive for the long haul, that's a job for all of us, for government and for private companies, for states and for local communities, and for every American citizen. All of us will have to up our game. All of us will have to change the way we do business.

My administration can and will take some steps to improve our competitiveness on our own. For example, if you're a small-business owner who has a contract with the federal government, we're going to make sure you get paid a lot faster than you do right now.

(APPLAUSE)

We're also planning to cut away the red tape that prevents too many rapidly growing start-up companies from raising capital and going public.

And to help responsible homeowners, we're going to work with federal housing agencies to help more people refinance their mortgages at interest rates that are now near 4 percent. That's a step...

(APPLAUSE)

I know you guys must be for this, because that's a step that can put more than $2,000 a year in a family's pocket and give a lift to an economy still burdened by the drop in housing prices.

So some things we can do on our own. Other steps will require congressional action.

Today, you passed reform that will speed up the outdated patent process so that entrepreneurs can turn a new idea into a new business as quickly as possible. That's the kind of action we need.

Now it's time to clear the way for a series of trade agreements that would make it easier for American companies to sell their products in Panama, and Colombia, and South Korea, while also helping the workers whose jobs have been affected by global competition.

(APPLAUSE)

If Americans can buy Kias and Hyundais, I want to see folks in South Korea driving Fords and Chevys and Chryslers.

(APPLAUSE)

I want to see more products sold around the world stamped with the three proud words, "Made in America." That's what we need to get done.

(APPLAUSE)

And on all of our efforts to strengthen competitiveness, we need to look for ways to work side by side with America's businesses. That's why I've brought together a jobs council of leaders from different industries who are developing a wide range of new ideas to help companies grow and create jobs.

Already, we've mobilized business leaders to train 10,000 American engineers a year, by providing company internships and training. Other businesses are covering tuition for workers who learn new skills at community colleges.

And we're going to make sure the next generation of manufacturing takes root not in China or Europe, but right here in the United States of America.

(APPLAUSE)

If we provide the right incentives, the right support, and if we make sure our trading partners play by the rules, we can be the ones to build everything from fuel-efficient cars to advanced biofuels to semiconductors that we sell all around the world. That's how America can be number-one again. And that's how America will be number-one again.

(APPLAUSE)

Now, I realize that some of you have a different theory on how to grow the economy. Some of you sincerely believe that the only solution to our economic challenges is to simply cut most government spending and eliminate most government regulations.

(APPLAUSE)

And -- well, I agree that we can't afford wasteful spending, and I'll work with you, with Congress, to root it out. And I agree that there are some rules and regulations that do put an unnecessary burden on businesses at a time when they can least afford it.

(APPLAUSE)

That's why I ordered a review of all government regulations. So far, we've identified over 500 reforms, which will save billions of dollars over the next few years. We should have no more regulation than the health, safety and security of the American people require. Every rule should meet that commonsense test.

(APPLAUSE)

But what we can't do -- what I will not do -- is let this economic crisis be used as an excuse to wipe out the basic protections that Americans have counted on for decades.

(APPLAUSE)

I reject the idea that we need to ask people to choose between their jobs and their safety. I reject the argument that says, for the economy to grow, we have to roll back protections that ban hidden fees by credit card companies, or rules that keep our kids from being exposed to mercury, or laws that prevent the health insurance industry from shortchanging patients.

I reject the idea that we have to strip away collective bargaining rights to compete in a global economy.

(APPLAUSE)

We shouldn't be in a race to the bottom, where we try to offer the cheapest labor and the worst pollution standards. America should be in a race to the top, and I believe we can win that race.

(APPLAUSE)

In fact, this larger notion that the only thing we can do to restore prosperity is just dismantle government, refund everybody's money, and let everyone write their own rules, and tell everyone they're on their own, that's not who we are. That's not the story of America.

Yes, we are rugged individualists. Yes, we are strong and self- reliant. And it has been the drive and initiative of our workers and entrepreneurs that has made this economy the engine and the envy of the world.

But there's always been another thread running throughout our history, a belief that we're all connected, and that there are some things we can only do together as a nation.

We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our union, founder of the Republican Party. But in the middle of a Civil War, he was also a leader who looked to the future, a Republican president who mobilized government to build the transcontinental railroad, launch the National Academy of Sciences, set up the first land grant colleges. And leaders of both parties have followed the example he set.

Ask yourselves: Where would we be right now if the people who sat here before us decided not to build our highways, not to build our bridges, our dams, our airports? What would this country be like if we had chosen not to spend money on public high schools, or research universities, or community colleges?

Millions of returning heroes, including my grandfather, had the opportunity to go to school because of the G.I. Bill. Where would we be if they hadn't had that chance?

(APPLAUSE)

How many jobs would it have cost us if past Congresses decided not to support the basic research that led to the Internet and the computer chip? What kind of country would this be if this chamber had voted down Social Security or Medicare just because it violated some rigid idea about what government could or could not do? How many Americans would have suffered as a result?

(APPLAUSE)

No single individual built America on their own. We built it together. We have been -- and always will be -- one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, a nation with responsibilities to ourselves and with responsibilities to one another.

And, members of Congress, it is time for us to meet our responsibilities.

(APPLAUSE)
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:55:58 PM

Every proposal I've laid out tonight is the kind that's been supported by Democrats and Republicans in the past. Every proposal I've laid out tonight will be paid for. And every proposal is designed to meet the urgent needs of our people and our communities.

Now, I know there's been a lot of skepticism about whether the politics of the moment will allow us to pass this jobs plan, or any jobs plan. Already, we're seeing the same old press releases and tweets flying back and forth. Already, the media has proclaimed that it's impossible to bridge our differences. And maybe some of you have decided that those differences are so great that we can only resolve them at the ballot box.

But know this: The next election is 14 months away. And the people who sent us here, the people who hired us to work for them, they don't have the luxury of waiting 14 months.

(APPLAUSE)

Some of them are living week to week, paycheck to paycheck, even day to day. They need help, and they need it now.

I don't pretend that this plan will solve all our problems. It should not be -- nor will it be -- the last plan of action we propose. What's guided us from the start of this crisis hasn't been the search for a silver bullet. It's been a commitment to stay at it, to be persistent, to keep trying every new idea that works and listen to every good proposal, no matter which party comes up with it.

Regardless of the arguments we've had in the past, regardless of the arguments we'll have in the future, this plan is the right thing to do right now. You should pass it. And I intend to take that message to every corner of this country.

(APPLAUSE)

And I ask -- I ask every American who agrees to lift your voice, tell the people who are gathered here tonight that you want action now. Tell Washington that doing nothing is not an option. Remind us that, if we act as one nation and one people, we have it within our power to meet this challenge.

President Kennedy once said, "Our problems are manmade; therefore, they can be solved by man. And man can be as big as he wants."

These are difficult years for our country, but we are Americans. We are tougher than the times that we live in, and we are bigger than our politics have been. So let's meet the moment, let's get to work, and let's show the world once again why the United States of America remains the greatest nation on Earth.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you very much. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.

(APPLAUSE)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/08/transcript-obamas-speech-on-jobs-plan/
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 08:56:30 PM
It's already forgotten.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2011, 09:03:25 PM
Thank you for posting this. I missed hearing it because I was at the gym. They had several of the television up in the cardio area tuned to this broadcast, I noticed. I didn't take time to watch it for a couple of reasons. One, I would have had to read the captions as the gym keeps the sound off on the televisions. Two, it interfered with my workout time. And three it is simply a scripted speech. What we need is action, not just talk. Despite what President Obama said, I doubt Congress can work together to solve these heavy problems....they are too busy acting like children.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 09:03:43 PM
I stopped reading right here:  "reforming our tax code in a way that asks the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay their fair share."

He soon before we get rid of this class warfare waging socialist?  

Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 08, 2011, 09:04:33 PM
Did anyone watch it?
entered a little late but watched it.  Wasn't impressed.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 09:05:01 PM
The whole thing was more of the same crappola. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 09:22:44 PM
"Corporations," the "wealthy," millionaires, and billionaires are the root of all evil.   ::)

It's a shame the media lets him get away with that "fair share" garbage.  I hope he doesn't speak again till State of the Union. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Emmortal on September 08, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
I prefer the Ali-G Version:

Mr. speaka, mr. vice president, members hof congress, an' fellow americans: tonight we meet hat an urgent bells fe our turf. we continue to face an economic crisis dat has westside side millions hof our neighbors jobless, an' da political crisis dat has made tings worse. this past week, reporters as bin askin “what iz gonna dis speech mean fe da president? wot iz gonna hit mean fe congress? how iz gonna hit affect dare polls, an' da next elecshun?” but da millions hof americans who iz watchin east side now: dey don’t care about politics. dey as real life concerns. many as spent momphs lookin fe wurk. others iz doin dare fittest just to scrape by – givin up nights hout wiv da posse to save on gas or make da mortgage; postponin retirement to send da kid to scool. these bruvers an' bitches grew up wiv faith in an america where ard wurk an' responsibility paid off. dey believed in da turf where everyone gets da fair shake an' does dare fair share – where if yous stepped up, did ya job, an' wuz loyal to ya possie, dat loyalty iz gona be rewarded wiv da decent salary an' heavy benefits; maybe da raise once in awhile. if yous did da east side tin, yous could make hit in america.

but fe decades now, americans as watched dat compact erode. dey as seun da dek too oftun stacked against dem. an' dey nah dat washington hasn’t always put dare interests first. the peeps hof dis turf wurk ard to meet dare responsibilities. da quesshun tonight iz whetha we’ll meet ours. da quesshun iz whetha, in da face hof an ongoin national crisis, we can stop da political circus an' hactually do sumfink to help da economy; whetha we can restore some hof da fairness an' security dat has defined dis nashun since our beginnin. those hof us in da house tonight can’t solve all hof our nation’s woes. ultimately, our recovery iz gonna be drivun not by washington, but by our businesses an' our boys. but we can help. we can make da difference. dere iz steps we can take east side now to improve people’s lives. i iz sendin dis congress da plan dat yous should pass east side away. it’s called da american jobs act. dere should be naffink controversial about dis piece hof legislashun. everythin in in da house iz da kind hof proposal that’s bin supported by both democrats an' republicans – includin many who sit in da house tonight. an' everythin in dis bill iz gonna be paid fe. everythin. the purpose hof da american jobs act iz simple: to put more peeps bak to wurk an' more moolar in da pockets hof those who iz workin'. hit iz gonna create more jobs fe construcshun boys, more jobs fe well batty homos wit massiv heads, more jobs fe veterans, an' more jobs fe da long-term unemployed. hit iz gonna provide da tax bus' fe companies who hire fresh boys, an' hit iz gonna cut payroll taxes in half fe every workin' american an' every small bizzle. hit iz gonna provide da jolt to an economy dat has stalled, an' borrow companies confidence dat if dey invest an' hire, dere iz gonna be customers fe dare products an' services. yous should pass dis jobs plan east side away. everyone in da house knows dat small businesses iz where most fresh jobs begin.

an' yous nah dat while corporate profits as spitz roarin bak, smalla companies haven’t. so fe everyone who speaks so passionately about makin life easia fe “job creators,” dis plan iz fe yous. pass dis jobs bill, an' startin tomorrow, small businesses iz gonna get da tax cut if dey hire fresh boys or raise workers’ wages. pass dis jobs bill, an' all small bizzle owners iz gonna also chek dare payroll taxes cut in half next year. if yous as 50 employees makin an average salary, that’s an $80,000 tax cut. an' all businesses iz gonna be able to continue writin off da investments dey make in 2012. it’s not just democrats who as supported dis kind hof proposal. fifty yard republicans as proposed da same payroll tax cut that’s in dis plan. yous should pass hit east side away. pass dis jobs bill, an' we can put peeps to wurk rebuildin america. everyone in da house knows dat we as badly decayin roads an' bridges all ova dis turf. our highways iz clogged wiv traffic. our skies iz da most congested in da world. this iz inexcusable. buildin da world-class transportashun system iz part hof wot made us an economic superpowa. an' now we’re gonna sit bak an' watch china build newa airports an' fasta railroads? hat da bells whun millions hof unemployed construcshun boys could build dem east side in da house in america? there iz private construcshun companies all across america just waitin to get to wurk. there’s da bridge dat needs repair betweun ohio an' kentucky that’s on one hof da busiest truckin routes in north america. da public transit project in houston dat iz gonna help clear up one hof da cackest areas hof traffic in da turf. an' dere iz schools throughout dis turf dat desperately need renovatin. how can we expect our kids to do dare fittest in places dat iz literally fallin apart? dis iz america. every child deserves da yorkie scool – an' we can borrow hit to dem, if we act now. the american jobs act iz gonna repair an' modernize hat least 35,000 schools.

hit iz gonna put peeps to wurk east side now fixin roofs an' windows; installin science labs an' high-speed intaweb in classrooms all across dis turf. hit iz gonna rehabilitate homes an' businesses in communities spark hardest by foreclosures. hit iz gonna jumpstart thousands hof transportashun projects across da turf. an' to make shizzle da moolar iz properly spent an' fe heavy purposes, we’re buildin on reforms we’ve already put in place. narr more earmarks. narr more boondoggles. narr more bridges to nowhere. we’re cuttin da red tape dat prevents some hof dees projects from gettin' started as quickly as possible. an' we’ll set up an independent fund to attract private squid an' issue loans based on two criteria: how badly da construcshun project iz needed an' how much heavy hit iz gona do fe da economy. this idea came from da bill writtun by da texas republican an' da massachusetts democrat. da idea fe da massiv boost in construcshun iz supported by america’s largest bizzle organizashun an' america’s largest labor organizashun. it’s da kind hof proposal that’s bin supported in da past by democrats an' republicans alike. yous should pass hit east side away. pass dis jobs bill, an' thousands hof well batty homos wit massiv heads in every state iz gonna go bak to wurk. dees iz da bruvers an' bitches charged wiv preparin our childrun fe da world where da competishun has neva bin tougha. but while they’re addin well batty homos wit massiv heads in places dig south korea, we’re layin dem off in droves. it’s unfair to our kids. hit undermines dare future an' ours. an' hit has to stop. pass dis jobs bill, an' put our well batty homos wit massiv heads bak in da classroom where dey belong. pass dis jobs bill, an' companies iz gonna get extra tax credits if dey hire america’s veterans.

we ask dees bruvers an' bitches to leave dare careers, leave dare families, an' risk dare lives to ruk fe our turf. da last tin dey should af do iz ruk fe da job whun dey spitz turf. pass dis bill, an' hundreds hof thousands hof disadvantaged young peeps iz gonna as da hope an' dignity hof da summa job next year. an' dare parents, low-income americans who desperately iz gona dig to wurk, iz gonna as more ladders hout hof poverty. pass dis jobs bill, an' companies iz gonna get da $4,000 tax credit if dey hire anyone who has spent more dan six momphs lookin fe da job. we af do more to help da long-term unemployed in dare chek fe wurk. dis jobs plan builds on da program in georgia dat several republican leaders as highlighted, where peeps who collect unemployment insurance participate in temporary wurk as da way to build dare skills while dey chek fe da permanent job. da plan also extends unemployment insurance fe anotha year. if da millions hof unemployed americans stopped gettin' dis insurance, an' stopped usin' dat moolar fe basic necessities, hit iz gona be da devastatin blow to dis economy. democrats an' republicans in dis chamba as supported unemployment insurance plenty hof times in da past. hat dis bells hof prolonged hardship, yous should pass hit again – east side away. pass dis jobs bill, an' da typical workin' posse iz gonna get da fifteun quillion dollar tax cut next year. fifteun quillion squid dat iz gona as bin takun hout hof ya paychek iz gonna go east side into ya pocket. dis expands on da tax cut dat democrats an' republicans already passed fe dis year. if we h'llow dat tax cut to expire – if we refuse to act – middle-class families iz gonna get spark wiv da tax increase hat da cackest possible bells. we cannot let dat happun. I nah some hof yous as sworn oaths to neva raise any taxes on anyone fe as long as yous live. now iz not da bells to carve hout an excepshun an' raise middle-class taxes, which iz why yous should pass dis bill east side away.

this iz da american jobs act. hit iz gonna lead to fresh jobs fe construcshun boys, well batty homos wit massiv heads, veterans, first responders, young peeps an' da long-term unemployed. hit iz gonna provide tax credits to companies dat hire fresh boys, tax relief fe small bizzle owners, an' tax cuts fe da middle-class. an' here’s da uva tin I dig da american peeps to know: da american jobs act iz gonna not add to da deficit. hit iz gonna be paid fe. an' here’s how: the agreement we passed in july iz gonna cut government spendin by about $1 quillion ova da next tun years. hit also charges dis congress to spitz up wiv an additional $1.5 quillion in savings by christmas. tonight, i’m askin yous to increase dat amount so dat hit covers da maximum cost hof da american jobs act. an' da week from monday, i’ll be releasin da more ambitious deficit plan – da plan dat iz gonna not only cova da cost hof dis jobs bill, but stabilize our debt in da long run. this approach iz basically da one i’ve bin advocatin fe momphs.

 in addishun to da quillion squid hof spendin cuts i’ve already signed into flange, it’s da balanced plan dat iz gona reduce da deficit by makin additional spendin cuts; by makin modest adjustments to health care programs dig medicare an' medicaid; an' by reformin our tax code in da way dat aks da wealthiest americans an' biggest corporations to pay dare fair share. what’s more, da spendin cuts wouldn’t happun so abruptly dat they’d be da drag on our economy, or prevent us from helpin small bizzle an' middle-class families get bak on dare feet east side away. now, I realize dere iz some in me masseave gavrin' who don’t fink we should make any changes hat all to medicare an' medicaid, an' I feel dare concerns. but here’s da truth. millions hof americans rely on medicare in dare retirement. an' millions more iz gonna do so in da future. dey pay fe dis benefit durin dare workin' years. dey earn hit. but wiv an agin populashun an' risin health care costs, we iz spendin too fast to sustain da program. an' if we don’t gradually reform da system while protectin current beneficiaries, hit won’t be dere whun future retirees need hit. we af reform medicare to strengthun hit.

i’m also well aware dat dere iz many republicans who don’t reckon we should raise taxes on those who iz most fortunate an' can fittest afford hit. but in da house iz wot every american knows. while most peeps in dis turf struggle to make ends meet, da few hof da most affluent citizens an' corporations dig tax breaks an' loopholes dat nobody else gets. east side now, warrun buffet pays da lowa tax rate dan iz secretary – an outrage e has asked us to fix. we need da tax code where everyone gets da fair shake, an' bruvers pays dare fair share. an' I reckon da vast majority hof wealthy americans an' ceos iz willin to do just dat, if hit helps da economy grow an' gets our fiscal yard in orda. i’ll also offa ideas to reform da corporate tax code dat stands as da monument to special interest influence in washington. by eliminatin pages hof loopholes an' deductions,

we can lowa one hof da highest corporate tax rates in da world. our tax code shouldn’t borrow an advantage to companies dat can afford da best-connected lobbyists. hit should borrow an advantage to companies dat invest an' create jobs in da house in america. so we can reduce dis deficit, pay down our debt, an' pay fe dis jobs plan in da process. but in orda to do dis, we af decide wot our priorities iz. we af ask ourselves, “what’s da fittest way to grow da economy an' create jobs?” should we keep tax loopholes fe oil companies? or should we use dat moolar to borrow small bizzle owners da tax credit whun dey hire fresh boys? coz we can’t afford to do both. should we keep tax breaks fe millionaires an' billionaires? or should we put well batty homos wit massiv heads bak to wurk so our kids can graduate ready fe scool an' heavy jobs? east side now, we can’t afford to do both.

this isn’t political grandstandin. dis isn’t class warfare. dis iz simple maff. dees iz real choices dat we af make. an' i’m fit shizzle I nah wot most americans iz gona choose. it’s not evun close. an' it’s bells fe us to do what’s east side fe our future. the american jobs act answers da urgent need to create jobs east side away. but we can’t stop dere. as i’ve argued since I ran fe dis office, we af chek beyond da immediate crisis an' start buildin an economy dat lasts into da future – an economy dat creates heavy, middle-class jobs dat pay well an' offa security. we now live in da world where bits has made hit possible fe companies to take dare bizzle anywhere. if we dig dem to start in da house an' stay in da house an' hire in da house, we af be able to out-build, out-educate, an' out-innovate every uva turf on earth. this task, hof makin america more competitive fe da long haul, iz da job fe all hof us.

fe government an' fe private companies. fe states an' fe local communities – an' fe every american citizun. all hof us iz gonna af up our game. all hof us iz gonna af change da way we do bizzle. my administrashun can an' iz gonna take some steps to improve our competitiveness on our own. fe example, if you’re da small bizzle owna who has da contract wiv da federal government, we’re gonna make shizzle yous get paid nuff fasta dan yous do now. we’re also plannin to cut away da red tape dat prevents too many rapidly-growin start-up companies from raisin capital an' gwaan public. an' to help responsible homeowners, we’re gonna wurk wiv federal housin agencies to help more peeps refinance dare mortgages hat interest rates dat iz now near 4% -- da step dat can put more dan $2,000 da year in da family’s pocket, an' borrow da lift to an economy still burdened by da drop in housin prices.

 otha steps iz gonna require congressional acshun. today yous passed reform dat iz gonna speedun up da outdated patent process, so dat entrepreneurs can turn da fresh idea into da fresh bizzle as quickly as possible. that’s da kind hof acshun we need. now it’s bells to clear da way fe da series hof trade agreements dat iz gona make hit easia fe american companies to borrow dare products in panama, colombia, an' south korea – while also helpin da boys whose jobs as bin affected by global competishun. if americans can purchase kias an' hyundais, me iz gona dig to chek folks in south korea drivin' fords an' chevys an' chryslers. me iz gona dig to chek more products sold around da world stamped wiv three proud words: “made in america.” and on all hof our efforts to strengthun competitiveness, we need to chek fe ways to wurk side-by-side wiv america’s businesses. that’s why i’ve brought togetha da jobs council hof leaders from different industries who iz developin da wide range hof fresh ideas to help companies grow an' create jobs. already, we’ve mobilized bizzle leaders to train 10,000 american engineers da year, by providin possie internships an' trainin. uva businesses iz coverin tuishun fe boys who learn fresh skills hat community colleges. an' we’re gonna make shizzle da next generashun hof manufacturin takes root not in china or europe, but east side in da house, in da united states hof america. if we provide da east side incentives an' help – an' if we make shizzle our tradin partners play by da rulz – we can be da ones to build everythin from fuel-efficient cars to advanced biofuels to semiconductors dat iz sold all ova da world. that’s how america can be dijits one again. that’s how america iz gonna be dijits one again. now, I realize dat some hof yous as da different theory on how to grow da economy.

some hof yous sincerely reckon dat da only solushun to our economic challenges iz to simply cut most government spendin an' eliminate most government regulations. well, I agree dat we can’t afford wasteful spendin, an' I iz gonna continue to wurk wiv congress to get rid hof hit. an' I agree dat dere iz some rulz an' regulations dat put an unnecessary burdun on businesses hat da bells whun dey can least afford hit. that’s why I ordered da review hof all government regulations. so far, we’ve identified ova 500 reforms, which iz gonna save billions hof squid ova da next few years. we should as narr more regulashun dan da health, safety, an' security hof da american peeps require. every rule should meet dat common sense test. but wot we can’t do – wot I won’t do – iz let dis economic crisis be used as an ekscuse to wipe hout da basic protections dat americans as counted on fe decades. I reject da idea dat we need to ask peeps to choose betweun dare jobs an' dare safety. I reject da ruk dat says fe da economy to grow, we af roll bak protections dat ban hiddun fees by credit card companies, or rulz dat keep our kids from bein exposed to mercury, or laws dat prevent da health insurance industry from shortchangin patients. I reject da idea dat we af strip away collective bargainin rights to compete in da global economy.

we shouldn’t be in da race to da batty, where we try to offa da cheapest labor an' da cackest pollushun standards. america should be in da race to da top. an' I reckon that’s da race we can win. in fact, dis larga noshun dat da only tin we can do to restore prosperity iz just dismantle government, refund everyone’s moolar, let everyone write dare own rulz, an' tell everyone they’re on dare own – that’s not who we iz. that’s not da story hof america. yes, we iz rugged individualists. aiii, we iz strong an' self-reliant. an' hit has bin da drive an' initiative hof our boys an' entrepreneurs dat has made dis economy da engine an' envy hof da world. but dere has always bin anotha thread runnin throughout our history – da belief dat we iz all connected; an' dat dere iz some tings we can only do togetha, as da nashun. we all rememba abraham lincoln as da leada who saved our union. but in da middle hof da civil war, e wuz also da leada who looked to da future – da republican president who mobilized government to build da transcontinental railroad; launch da national academy hof sciences; an' set up da first turf grant colleges. an' leaders hof both parties as followed da example e set.

ask yourselves – where iz gona we be east side now if da peeps who sat in da house before us decided not to build our highways an' our bridges; our dams an' our airports? wot iz gona dis turf be dig if we had chosun not to spend moolar on public maximum schools, or research universities, or community colleges? millions hof returnin heroes, includin me ganjadadie, had da opportunity to go to scool coz hof da gi bill. where iz gona we be if dey hadn’t had dat chance? how many jobs iz gona hit as cost us if past congresses decided not to help da basic research dat led to da intaweb an' da poota chip? wot kind hof turf iz gona dis be if dis chamba had voted down social security or medicare just coz hit violated some rigid idea about wot government could or could not do? how many americans iz gona as suffered as da result? no single individual built america on dare own. we built hit togetha. we as bin, an' always iz gonna be, one nashun, unda god, indivisible, wiv liberty an' justice fe all; da nashun wiv responsibilities to ourselves an' wiv responsibilities to one anotha.

members hof congress, hit iz bells fe us to meet our responsibilities. every proposal i’ve laid hout tonight iz da kind that’s bin supported by democrats an' republicans in da past. every proposal i’ve laid hout tonight iz gonna be paid fe. an' every proposal iz designed to meet da urgent needs hof our peeps an' our communities. i nah there’s bin nuff hof skepticism about whetha da politics hof da moment iz gonna h'llow us to pass dis jobs plan – or any jobs plan. already, we’re seein da same batty press releases an' tweets flyin bak an' forth. already, da media has proclaimed dat it’s impossible to bridge our differences. an' maybe some hof yous as decided dat those differences iz so yorkie dat we can only resolve dem hat da ballot box. but nah this: da next elecshun iz fourteun momphs away. an' da peeps who sent us in da house – da peeps who hired us to wurk fe dem – dey don’t as da luxury hof waitin fourteun momphs. some hof dem iz livin week to week; paychek to paycheck; evun day to day. dey need help, an' dey need hit now.

i don’t pretend dat dis plan iz gonna solve all our problems. hit shouldn’t be, nor iz gonna hit be, da last plan hof acshun we propose. what’s guided us from da start hof dis crisis hasn’t bin da chek fe da silva bullet. it’s bin da commitment to stay hat hit – to be persistent – to keep tryin every fresh idea dat works, an' listun to every heavy proposal, narr matta which masseave gavrin' comes up wiv hit. regardless hof da ruks we’ve had in da past, regardless hof da ruks we’ll as in da future, dis plan iz da east side tin to do east side now. yous should pass hit. an' I intend to take dat message to every corna hof dis turf. I also ask every american who agrees to lift ya voice an' tell da peeps who iz gathered in da house tonight dat yous dig acshun now. tell washington dat doin naffink iz not an opshun. remind us dat if we act as one nashun, an' one peeps, we as hit wivvin our powa to meet dis challenge. president kennedy once said, “our problems iz man-made – therefore dey can be solved by geeza. an' geeza can be as massiv as e wants.”

 these iz difficult years fe our turf. but we iz americans. we iz tougha dan da times dat we live in, an' we iz bigga dan our politics as bin. so let’s meet da moment. let’s get to wurk, an' show da world once again why da united states hof america remains da greatest nashun on earth. fank yous, god bless yous, an' may god bless da united states hof america. Is it coz I is black?
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Emmortal on September 08, 2011, 09:37:43 PM
"Corporations," the "wealthy," millionaires, and billionaires are the root of all evil.   ::)

It's a shame the media lets him get away with that "fair share" garbage.  I hope he doesn't speak again till State of the Union. 

Funny how he says that out of one side of his mouth while pandering to those people out of the other.  I wasn't expecting much from this speech and got exactly that.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 04:05:21 AM
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Obama, the spammer-in-chief, strikes again after jobs speech
washington post ^ | 9/9/2011 | David Nakamura
Posted on September 9, 2011 6:29:20 AM EDT by tobyhill

The spammer-in-chief was back last night.

President Obama, whose official campaign Twitter account blasted out 100 messages in a single afternoon in late July, did it again Thursday night.

Only this time it was the official White House press office e-mail account that lit-up inboxes.

After the president’s jobs speech before Congress Thursday night, his staff sent out 39 e-mails to reporters, each declaring that yet another Obama ally “backs the American Jobs Act,” as the subject lines boasted.

The e-mails came within a 1-hour, 5-minute period between 8:32 p.m. and 9:37 p.m. That’s an average of one every minute and 40 seconds.

In all, Obama’s spoke 4,132 words in his 32-minute address. The number of words spoken by the various supporters quoted in the e-mails: 7,165.

The messages included supportive comments from 10 senators, four House representatives, four governors and four mayors. Chief executives of Fortune 500 companies weighed in, as did union leaders.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was apparently so enthusiastic about Obama’s jobs plan that the White House sent out her supportive comment twice — in one e-mail, she was identified as Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, though in the other she was downgraded to mere Representative Pelosi.

Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa, who got into some hot water with the tea party for divisive comments he made at a Detroit labor rally on Monday, was suddenly preaching unity in the e-mail from the White House.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 04:16:35 AM
Obama must be in a time warp — he thinks the content of his speech is new, or can be made new by more soaring cadences. It’s almost as if he is oblivious to the fact that, before calling for nearly half a trillion dollars in government borrowing to jumpstart temporary job creation tonight, he already oversaw a failed $800 million stimulus, “shovel-ready” jobs that were later admitted to be not so shovel-ready, “millions of green jobs” talk leading to sweetheart loans to now-bankrupt crony companies, nearly $5 trillion in new borrowing, and massive new financial and environmental regulations. Been there, done that.

And is the president unable to give a speech without trotting out the tired canard of “millionaires and billionaires” and the omnipresent Warren Buffett and his proverbial secretary for the nth time — especially given that Buffett’s companies have had tax troubles with the IRS and his fortune will pass without inheritance taxes? Can he refrain from equating legitimate worry over new hyper-regulation with a desire to expose kids to mercury or be shortchanged by the health-care industry? Does he really believe that the majority of Americans who oppose his statism really wish to “just dismantle government, refund everybody’s money, and let everyone write their own rules, and tell everyone they’re on their own”?

Why all that straw-man caricaturing ad nauseam, when after three years it is well beyond old and stale and, what’s more, Obama has a desperate need now for bipartisan support? Is Obama just politically dense, or he is so inured to the Chicago us/them confrontational mentality that he knows no politics other than polarization, even when appealing for help? 

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Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: dario73 on September 09, 2011, 05:19:03 AM
I saw about 10 minutes of that speech. Utter garbage.

Are all Democratic presidents stupid and nutty?

Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 05:22:25 AM
I saw about 10 minutes of that speech. Utter garbage.

Are all Democratic presidents stupid and nutty?



I almost felt bad for him if he really believes anyone even remotely takes him seriously any more.  Juvenile, illiterate, inept, incompetent, shallow, cliches on end, straw man after straw man, etc etc. 

What a joke.   
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 05:29:21 AM
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Speaker of the House John Boehner of Ohio applauds President Barack Obama during his address to a joint session Congress on Capitol Hill in Washington,

Sept. 8, 2011. (AP Photo/Kevin Lamarque, POOL)

Barack Obama looked and sounded angry in his speech to the joint session of Congress. He bitterly assailed one straw man after another and made reference to a grab bag of proposals which would cost something on the order of $450 billion—assuring us on the one hand that they all had been supported by Republicans as well as Democrats in the past and suggesting that somehow they are going to turn the economy around.

He called for further cuts in the payroll tax (which if continued indefinitely would undermine the case of Social Security as something people have earned rather than a form of welfare) and for a further extension of unemployment insurance (perhaps justifiable on humanitarian grounds, but sure to at least marginally raise the unemployment rate over what it would otherwise be). He called for a tax credit for hiring the long-term unemployed (unfortunately, these things can be gamed).

He gave a veiled plug for his pet project of high-speed rail (a real dud) and for infrastructure spending generally (but didn’t he learn that there aren’t really any shovel-ready projects?). He called for a school modernization program (will it result in more jobs than the Seattle weatherization program that cost $22 million and produced 14 jobs?) and for funding more teacher jobs (a political payoff to the teacher unions which together with other unions gave Democrats $400 million in the 2008 campaign cycle). “We’ll set up an independent fund to attract private dollars and issue loans based on two criteria: how badly a construction project is needed and how much good it would do for the country.” Yeah, sure. Like the screening process that produced that $535,000,000 loan guarantee to now-bankrupt Solyndra.

And Congress should pass the free trade agreements with Panama, Colombia and South Korea. Except that Congress can’t, because Obama hasn’t sent them up there yet in his 961 days as president.

Obama assured us that this would all be paid for. But as far as I could gather, he punted that part of it to the supercommittee of 12 members set up under the debt ceiling bill. He now blithely charges it with coming up with more than its current goal of $1.5 trillion in savings by Christmas. Oh, and he’s going to announce “a more ambitious deficit plan” that will “stabilize our debt in the long run”--11 days from now.

In the meantime, he called for higher taxes on “a few of the most affluent citizens”—as if this could pay for all the spending he’s been backing. What’s interesting here is that he seems to have left the way open for a 1986-style tax reform, cutting tax rates and eliminating tax preferences, or at least that’s how I read these words: “While most people in this country struggle to make ends meet, a few of the most affluent citizens and corporations enjoy tax breaks and loopholes that nobody else gets [did he look up at his guest Jeff Immelt, CEO of GE, which paid no corporate tax on $14 billion in profits last year?]. Right now, Warren Buffett pays a lower tax rate than his secretary—an outrage he has asked us to fix [actually, Buffett could volunteer to pay more if he wants to]. We need a tax code where everyone gets a fair shake, and everybody pays their fair share. And I believe the vast majority of wealthy Americans and CEOs are willing to do just that, if it helps the economy grow and gets our fiscal house in order.” As I read it, he’s not insisting on higher tax rates, though he apparently is not ready to agree to a tax reform that is scored as revenue-neutral, as the 1986 act was. Also, if Obama wanted a 1986-type reform, he could have used the Bowles-Simpson fiscal commission’s recommendations last December as a springboard; instead, he brushed them aside without a murmur. So on balance I don’t think he’s serious on this, but there is a glimmer of a possibility that he is.

Straw men took a terrible beating from the president. He assailed “tax loopholes” for oil companies, the chief one of which is that they are treated like other companies classified as manufacturers. The administration proposal is that the five largest oil companies shouldn’t be, because—well, because we want to get our hands on more of their money. Today’s Republicans, he gave us to understand, want to “eliminate most government regulations” and “wipe out the basic protections that Americans have counted on for decades.” And, he suggested, they would never have created public health schools or the G.I. Bill or research universities.

When Barack Obama says, “This isn’t political grandstanding,” you have a pretty good clue that that is exactly what it is. Lest anyone doubt that, consider this from the third-to-last paragraph. “You should pass it. And I intend to take that message to every corner of the country.”

In other words, this was a campaign speech. It might result in passage of some of Obama’s proposals, and some of them might even do some good. But of course we didn’t see the kind of change of direction on policy that Bill Clinton made in 1995 and 1996, which enabled him to rise above his party’s 45% level of support in the 1994 elections (that’s the Democratic percentage of the House popular vote) and with 49% of the vote win reelection in 1996. (Ross Perot won 6% that year; polls suggest two points of it would have gone to Clinton had Perot not run.) I don’t think these proposals have the potential to turn around the careening economy, I don’t think many of them will become law and I don’t think this campaign initiative is likely to prove successful. From the demeanor and affect of the unhappy warrior at the podium last night, I suspect he may feel the same way.

Since I commented on Michele Bachmann’s makeup after the Republican presidential debate last night, let me make a comment on male neckware today. What is it with pastel ties? Barack Obama, Joe Biden and John Boehner were all wearing them tonight, and so was Fox News’s Ed Henry, reporting from the White House. 


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Looks like everyone is seeing how vapid that bs was.   Straw Man after Straw nonsense. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 09, 2011, 05:38:28 AM
Roughly 30 seconds here.

About three minutes, and I started choking on my round steak.  Had I died, that speech would have been to blame!
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 09, 2011, 05:40:59 AM
"Corporations," the "wealthy," millionaires, and billionaires are the root of all evil.   ::)

It's a shame the media lets him get away with that "fair share" garbage.  I hope he doesn't speak again till State of the Union. 


Well, when you have corporations shipping jobs overseas, lowering wages, laying off people at the same time collecting multimillion dollar bonuses, then yes there is a serious problem.

The middle class is simply being stripped away and what's going to be left is going to be similar to the Dark Ages.  A small group of extremely wealthy people...and everyone else will be serfs.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Deicide on September 09, 2011, 05:49:50 AM
I did not even watch it. I never watch or listen to his speeches. What is the point? ???
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 05:53:33 AM

Well, when you have corporations shipping jobs overseas, lowering wages, laying off people at the same time collecting multimillion dollar bonuses, then yes there is a serious problem.

The middle class is simply being stripped away and what's going to be left is going to be similar to the Dark Ages.  A small group of extremely wealthy people...and everyone else will be serfs.

You dont see the irony of your statement considering who was sitting in mobacca's box last night?  

Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 09, 2011, 05:56:05 AM
You dont see the irony of your statement considering who was sitting in mobacca's box last night?  




Yes, I noticed him sitting there which I can't figure out why.  He's actually part of the problem. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 05:58:31 AM

Yes, I noticed him sitting there which I can't figure out why.  He's actually part of the problem. 

WTF are you talking about!   Obama picked him to head the WH jobs council along with the other chief exporter of jobs at Xerox. 

Again - more reading and less cheerleading would do you libs a good bit.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: dario73 on September 09, 2011, 06:05:20 AM
I almost felt bad for him if he really believes anyone even remotely takes him seriously any more.  Juvenile, illiterate, inept, incompetent, shallow, cliches on end, straw man after straw man, etc etc. 

What a joke.   

But, according to the left, he has all the answers. If this is his answer, then what is the question? The question must be: How do you further the destruction of the American economy?
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 09, 2011, 06:07:51 AM
WTF are you talking about!   Obama picked him to head the WH jobs council along with the other chief exporter of jobs at Xerox. 

Again - more reading and less cheerleading would do you libs a good bit.


Yes, and there lies a multi-generational problem of presidents electing officials with a conflict of interest.  We've had dozen of people in the Treasury Dept have connections or worked for Goldman Sach.  We have Haliburton winning all of these contacts for the Iraq invasion, etc... its shit politics at its worse and both parties do this type of stuff because the campaign donations that these companies give pretty much come with a hidden price tag.  


Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 06:08:08 AM
But, according to the left, he has all the answers. If this is his answer, then what is the question? The question must be: How do you further the destruction of the American economy?

Another thing that drives me nuts is when he equates tax cuts to millioares and billionaires to teachers' jobs.  

Does this idiot and fool not grasp tjhe fact that the Federal Govt does not hire teachers and those are mostly state affairs ?  
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: dario73 on September 09, 2011, 06:17:31 AM
What happened to the American dream?  This nation has become a place where the wealthy are despised and blamed for the bulk of the economic problems. Castigated for supposedly not doing enough. Not paying enough taxes, while the government recklessly spends beyond its limits.

It has become a nation where success is punished, instead of encouraged.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: loco on September 09, 2011, 06:17:37 AM

Well, when you have corporations shipping jobs overseas, lowering wages, laying off people at the same time collecting multimillion dollar bonuses, then yes there is a serious problem.

The middle class is simply being stripped away and what's going to be left is going to be similar to the Dark Ages.  A small group of extremely wealthy people...and everyone else will be serfs.

You do understand the leftist, liberal unions and environmentalists have a great deal to do with this, don't you?
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 06:18:59 AM
Even WAPO laughed at that farce.

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President Obama gave one of the most impassioned speeches of his presidency when he addressed a joint session of Congress Thursday night. Too bad so many in the audience thought it was a big, fat joke.

“You should pass this jobs plan right away!” Obama exhorted. Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) chuckled.

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.“Warren Buffet pays a lower tax rate than his secretary — an outrage he has asked us to fix,” Obama went on. Widespread laughter broke out on the GOP side of the aisle.

“This isn’t political grandstanding,” Obama said. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) guffawed.

“This isn’t class warfare,” Obama said. More hysterics on the right.

“We’ve identified over 500 [regulatory] reforms which will save billions of dollars,” the president claimed. Majority leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) giggled.

It was, in a way, more insulting than Joe Wilson’s “you lie” eruption during a previous presidential address to Congress. The lawmakers weren’t particularly hostile toward the president – they just regarded the increasingly unpopular Obama as irrelevant. And the inclination not to take the 43-percent president seriously wasn’t entirely limited to the Republicans.

The nation is in an unemployment crisis, and Obama was finally, belatedly, unveiling his proposals, but Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) thought this would be a good time to ask Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to autograph a copy of the children’s book “House Mouse, Senate Mouse.”

Rep. David Wu (D-Wash.), forced to resign this summer over accusations of sexual impropriety, nevertheless showed up for the speech (in business suit rather than his tiger suit) and took a seat among the Democrats.

House Speaker John Boehner and Vice President Biden set the tone at the start. Waiting for Obama to make his way down the center aisle, they stood before the House and had a talk – not about jobs, but about golf.

“Seven birdies, five bogies,” Boehner reported to Biden.

“You’re kidding me!” the vice president said.

“I missed a 4-foot straight-on birdie on the last hole,” Boehner said of another round.

“Whoa!” the vice president said.

“So, the next day,” Boehner went on, “I shoot an 86! Ha, ha, ha!”

“That’s incredible,” the vice president said.

Obama rose to the occasion with a bold jobs proposal that delighted liberals but also had elements conservatives grudgingly endorsed. Yet long before the speech, both sides had concluded it didn’t much matter: Obama has become too weak to enact anything big enough to do much good.

“I thought it was a great speech,” said Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) But the odds of Obama getting his plan through Congress “are probably as good as the Nationals winning the league this year.”

Presidential addresses to Congress are often dramatic moments. This one felt like a sideshow. Usually, the press gallery is standing room only; this time only 26 of 90 seats were claimed by the deadline. Usually, some members arrive in the chamber hours early to score a center-aisle seat; 90 minutes before Thursday’s speech, only one Democrat was so situated.

Republican leaders, having forced Obama to postpone the speech because of the GOP debate, decided they wouldn’t dignify the event by offering a formal, televised “response.” And the White House, well aware of Obama’s declining popularity, moved up the speech time to 7 p.m. so it didn’t conflict with the Packers-Saints NFL opener at 8:30.

Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) had planned to skip the speech to host a football party, but the Senate majority leader thwarted his plan. “Typical Harry Reid,” Vitter tweeted. “He’s now schdld votes that should’ve been this morn 4 right b4 & right AFTER prez’s speech. Pens me in 2 have 2 stay.”

Almost all Republicans ignored the call of some within their ranks to boycott the speech. In fact, the empty seats were on the Democratic side. Democrats lumbered to their feet to give the president several standing ovations, but they struggled at times to demonstrate enthusiasm. When Obama proposed payroll tax cuts for small businesses, three Democrats stood to applaud. Summer jobs for disadvantaged youth brought six Democrats to their feet, and a tax credit for hiring the long-term unemployed produced 11 standees.

Obama spoke quickly, urgently, even angrily. Rep. Jesse Jackson (D-Ill.) stared at the ceiling. Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.) scanned the gallery. Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) was seen reading a newspaper. And Republicans, when they weren’t giggling, were mostly silent.

Even a mention of Abraham Lincoln, “a Republican president who mobilized government to build the transcontinental railroad,” brought no applause from the GOP side. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) yawned. One unidentified Republican backbencher chose this moment to hold up a sign demanding “Drilling for Jobs.”

So now even Lincoln doesn’t merit Republican applause when Obama invokes his name? If it weren’t so disturbing, it would be kind of funny.


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Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 09, 2011, 06:50:30 AM
Juvenile, illiterate, inept, incompetent, shallow, cliches on end, straw man after straw man, etc etc. 

What a joke.   

Mods, please move this post to the Rick Perry thread
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 06:52:43 AM
Mods, please move this post to the Rick Perry thread


And Hugo had the balls to threaten banning me yesterday for derailing threads?   
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Option D on September 09, 2011, 07:13:00 AM
Thank you for posting this. I missed hearing it because I was at the gym. They had several of the television up in the cardio area tuned to this broadcast, I noticed. I didn't take time to watch it for a couple of reasons. One, I would have had to read the captions as the gym keeps the sound off on the televisions. Two, it interfered with my workout time. And three it is simply a scripted speech. What we need is action, not just talk. Despite what President Obama said, I doubt Congress can work together to solve these heavy problems....they are too busy acting like children.


Oh you must've missed the memo.. Everything starts and ends with Obama.. Downgrade.. yeah.. thats all obama... (even though the republican congress was just as much to blame)... Jobs.. yeah thats ALL Obama too... this guy woke up on november 6th 2008 and said "i know what will make me popular... steal all the jobs.." (Even though they were shipped to india hella long ago)...

BF.... I figured for one of the smart ones.. looks like you were sucked into this bullshit too.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:15:03 AM

Oh you must've missed the memo.. Everything starts and ends with Obama.. Downgrade.. yeah.. thats all obama... (even though the republican congress was just as much to blame)... Jobs.. yeah thats ALL Obama too... this guy woke up on november 6th 2008 and said "i know what will make me popular... steal all the jobs.." (Even though they were shipped to india hella long ago)...

BF.... I figured for one of the smart ones.. looks like you were sucked into this bullshit too.

No, for being one of the dumb ones . . looks like you still are blinded by Obama's hope and change bullshit. 


BBBOOOOMMMMMM! ! ! !  !
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: loco on September 09, 2011, 07:17:21 AM

Oh you must've missed the memo.. Everything starts and ends with Obama.. Downgrade.. yeah.. thats all obama... (even though the republican congress was just as much to blame)... Jobs.. yeah thats ALL Obama too... this guy woke up on november 6th 2008 and said "i know what will make me popular... steal all the jobs.." (Even though they were shipped to india hella long ago)...

BF.... I figured for one of the smart ones.. looks like you were sucked into this bullshit too.

Does Obama and his administration ever take responsibility for anything? 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:18:15 AM
Roughly 30 seconds here.

you have ADHD...thats why
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:19:13 AM
I knew it! ! ! !


He just fucking did it - that stupid ass voice where he tries to sound sincere and convincing. 


Pathetic! 

just like your posts
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:20:51 AM
I stopped reading right here:  "reforming our tax code in a way that asks the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay their fair share."

He soon before we get rid of this class warfare waging socialist?  



wealthiest Americans have always paid more since the beginning of the U.S....whats so different now???
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:21:27 AM
just like your posts

I love the fake black southern accent he tries on the campaign trail.  Pathetic.  
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:22:22 AM
Funny how he says that out of one side of his mouth while pandering to those people out of the other.  I wasn't expecting much from this speech and got exactly that.

you got what you were basically looking for....which wasn't much
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:23:05 AM
I saw about 10 minutes of that speech. Utter garbage.

Are all Democratic presidents stupid and nutty?



no just guys like you who won't see the truth and won't listen to reason
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:24:16 AM
I almost felt bad for him if he really believes anyone even remotely takes him seriously any more.  Juvenile, illiterate, inept, incompetent, shallow, cliches on end, straw man after straw man, etc etc. 

What a joke.   

looks like you and he have a lot more in common than you think
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:24:59 AM

Well, when you have corporations shipping jobs overseas, lowering wages, laying off people at the same time collecting multimillion dollar bonuses, then yes there is a serious problem.

The middle class is simply being stripped away and what's going to be left is going to be similar to the Dark Ages.  A small group of extremely wealthy people...and everyone else will be serfs.

good post Vince
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:25:35 AM
looks like you and he have a lot more in common than you think

LMAO - got your super duper knee pads on today?
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:26:34 AM
good post Vince

What the hell are you smoking today?
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:27:28 AM
What happened to the American dream?  This nation has become a place where the wealthy are despised and blamed for the bulk of the economic problems. Castigated for supposedly not doing enough. Not paying enough taxes, while the government recklessly spends beyond its limits.

It has become a nation where success is punished, instead of encouraged.

no one despises millionaires....just wants them to pay their fair share which they are NOT doing....Corporations as well......its not unreasonable to ask this
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:28:29 AM
Mods, please move this post to the Rick Perry thread

Good one! ;)
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:29:02 AM
no one despises millionaires....just wants them to pay their fair share which they are NOT doing....Corporations as well......its not unreasonable to ask this

What about the 47% who pay nothing at all?
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: dario73 on September 09, 2011, 07:31:36 AM
no just guys like you who won't see the truth and won't listen to reason

So to you it is reasonable to spend another $470 billion more in stimulus when the other $800 billion have done nothing. Why is that logical?

If you think that is reasonable then you are as stupid and as nutty as the president.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:31:57 AM
LMAO - got your super duper knee pads on today?

I borrowed the ones you have been using on Donald trump, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, etc, etc
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:33:10 AM
What about the 47% who pay nothing at all?

well they do pay...out of their payroll taxes......but I agree that they should pay more as well
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:34:45 AM
So to you it is reasonable to spend another $470 billion more in stimulus when the other $800 billion have done nothing. Why is that logical?

If you think that is reasonable then you are as stupid and as nutty as the president.

its obvious that something has to be done...and if you do something then its going to cost money..simple as that....you and the other idiots on here say the president must do something and now he is....but you complain any way.....
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:35:52 AM
well they do pay...out of their payroll taxes......but I agree that they should pay more as well

Did you weep for joy last night?  

"Oh Barack . . .how wonderful you are!  Oh dearest POTUS . .  . can you accept my meager $2500 contribution to your second immaculation?  Please Dearest Barack  . . .send me another Christmas Card . . "  

is that what you were like last night?
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:36:39 AM
its obvious that something has to be done...and if you do something then its going to cost money..simple as that....you and the other idiots on here say the president must do something and now he is....but you complain any way.....

Right - cause the last 5 Trillion we gave him worked out so well.   Maybe if we only give him another half trillion all will work out. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:37:06 AM
Did you weep for joy last night?  

"Oh Barack . . .how wonderful you are!  Oh dearest POTUS . .  . can you accept my meager $2500 contribution to your second immaculation?  Please Dearest Barack  . . .send me another Christmas Card . . "  

is that what you were like last night?

hahahah...funny!......I thought the speech was a great one.....yes
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:38:34 AM
hahahah...funny!......I thought the speech was a great one.....yes

LMFAO! ! !  !
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 07:42:15 AM
LMFAO! ! !  !

if Obama gave a speech saying "free pussy for everyone" you would still think it was a bad speech :)
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:43:03 AM
if Obama gave a speech saying "free pussy for everyone" you would still think it was a bad speech :)

The only speech I want to hear from him is his resignation speech. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2011, 10:22:38 AM

Well, when you have corporations shipping jobs overseas, lowering wages, laying off people at the same time collecting multimillion dollar bonuses, then yes there is a serious problem.

The middle class is simply being stripped away and what's going to be left is going to be similar to the Dark Ages.  A small group of extremely wealthy people...and everyone else will be serfs.

Corporations don't collect multimillion dollar bonuses. 

I can see why Obama has an audience.  I know a number of people who have bought into the class warfare rhetoric.  It's a shame.  Pitting groups against each other is unproductive.  And the information used by the president and other liberals is flat out false. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2011, 10:23:59 AM
What happened to the American dream?  This nation has become a place where the wealthy are despised and blamed for the bulk of the economic problems. Castigated for supposedly not doing enough. Not paying enough taxes, while the government recklessly spends beyond its limits.

It has become a nation where success is punished, instead of encouraged.

It's pretty dumb.  We're all supposed to be trying to build wealth, but if you actually reach a certain threshold (whatever that is), you become da debil.   ::)
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 09, 2011, 10:26:05 AM
Corporations don't collect multimillion dollar bonuses. 

I can see why Obama has an audience.  I know a number of people who have bought into the class warfare rhetoric.  It's a shame.  Pitting groups against each other is unproductive.  And the information used by the president and other liberals is flat out false. 


You know I was referring to the corporate executives....
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 10:27:53 AM
Is called Chicago saul Alinsky tactics.

Obama is a street thug and no different than a rabble rouser and community communist.   
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2011, 10:40:17 AM

You know I was referring to the corporate executives....

I know what you said, not what you meant.  Thanks for clarifying. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: loco on September 09, 2011, 10:44:06 AM
It's pretty dumb.  We're all supposed to be trying to build wealth, but if you actually reach a certain threshold (whatever that is), you become da debil.   ::)

Castro and Chavez style propaganda! 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2011, 10:55:44 AM
Castro and Chavez style propaganda! 

Yep.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 09, 2011, 11:09:19 AM
well they do pay...out of their payroll taxes......but I agree that they should pay more as well

Incorrect - they also get a refund......the 47%  refers to those whose net payments are ZERO, either through reductions, credits, or income levels low enough to not qualify.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 12:29:34 PM
Georgia jobs program cited by Obama has big flaws
7:46am EDT
By Matthew Bigg



ATLANTA (Reuters) - A jobs program in the Southern state of Georgia, cited in President Barack Obama's plan to fight unemployment, needs big fixes and would not work as a federal initiative, says the official who runs it.

Obama told Congress on Thursday in a major speech on jobs that the state-run Georgia Work$ initiative, along with other measures, would help people unemployed for more than six months and he stressed that Republican leaders in Congress supported it.

"We have to do more to help the long-term unemployed in their search for work," Obama said. Fear the U.S. economy could slip back into recession is hurting the Democratic president's chances of re-election in 2012.

"This jobs plan builds on a program in Georgia that several Republican leaders have highlighted where people who collect unemployment insurance participate in temporary work as a way to build their skills while they look for a permanent job," Obama told Congress.

But Georgia Work$ is being restructured to overcome significant flaws. Even within the state, it is seen as "not a marquee program," said state Labor Commissioner Mark Butler, the Republican elected official who oversees it.

More than 30,000 people benefited from the program in the past, but in its current form, Georgia Work$ is tiny. Only 12 unemployed people signed up in August and 92 have done so since February, according to state Department of Labor statistics.

The voluntary program places unemployed people with firms for eight weeks of job training similar to an internship. Participants receive unemployment insurance plus a small stipend and have the chance of a job at the end of it.

Butler said the program he inherited in January was virtually bankrupt and "fraught with problems," so he is surprised it has attracted so much national attention.

Obama gave no details of how the program would be applied at a national level and Butler said his office had had no contact with the White House.

"We think that the foundation (idea) has merit but we don't believe that the program we have right now is as effective as it could be and it needs a lot of tweaking," Butler said.

"I don't really like the idea of federalizing this program.

.... We would like to make some changes to it and we would like to stay in control of it and not have it mandated from Washington," Butler said in reaction to the speech.

Butler said it was just one tool to fight unemployment in Georgia, which stood at 10.1 percent in July and has exceeded the U.S. average for the past 48 months. Losses in manufacturing, construction and finance have been severe.

SKILLS DEFICIT

One advantage of the initiative is that it reduces the risk for employers who want to hire, former Labor Commissioner Mike Thurmond, a Democrat who set up the program in 2003, told Reuters Insider.

Yet employers remain wary. Local business leaders who spoke in Athens, Georgia, this week linked their reluctance to hire to concern over future demand in a struggling economy.

They also cited a skills deficit among the unemployed.

In one example, construction equipment maker JCB North America set out last November to fill 200 new skilled manufacturing jobs at its headquarters in Savannah, Georgia.

"We thought it would be a fairly easy task given the high unemployment figures especially here in Georgia but we have had significant difficulties in finding the skilled labor," general marketing manager Karen Guinn said.

'CAN THE GOVERNMENT HELP?'

Georgia Work$ had been successful but only "at the margins," said Thomas Smith, a finance professor at Emory University's Goizueta business school. He said it needed more rigorous follow-up with employers to maximize its potential -- something that would increase administrative costs.

Butler said it would provide more help for low-skilled unemployed people than jobless professionals and he would welcome dialogue with other states that wanted to use it as a model.

The program has undergone substantial recent change. Between March 2003 and July 2011, employers accepted some 32,000 participants into training.

Of those, some 24 percent who completed training were hired, officials said, although they acknowledged the program's statistics needed to be improved. There are no figures on long-term job retention and state administrative costs have not been tallied.

In September 2010, the program was opened to any job seeker, the stipend was increased to $600 from $240 and its length was reduced to six weeks from eight. Monthly participation jumped to a peak of 4,081 in January this year.

But the changes blew through the annual budget and Butler began an overhaul and reinstated the original conditions in a move that decimated the participation rate.

The program has no dedicated staff and lacks a full-time leader. In a further sign of its low profile, its website is buried within the departmental site and is less prominent than another state training scheme, Georgia Work Ready.

(Editing by Peter Cooney)

Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Primemuscle on September 09, 2011, 12:50:46 PM
The only speech I want to hear from him is his resignation speech. 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. So, I can accept that you don't feel President Obama is doing his job well. What I don't get is why you are so married to your "hatred" toward him that you find it necessary to spend a good portion of your waking time posting negative opinions about everything he does....including, if I remember correctly, his golf game and his vacation plans. What has President Obama done to you personally?

One wonders, do you work? Are you posting your hateful political vitriol while sitting at your desk instead of doing whatever you job is? Do you not have a social life outside of posting on Getbig? -No family....no friends?

I guess if President Obama should win reelection in 2012, you'll have to commit suicide or move to another country, huh?
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 12:54:45 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. So, I can accept that you don't feel President Obama is doing his job well. What I don't get is why you are so married to your "hatred" toward him that you find it necessary to spend a good portion of your waking time posting negative opinions about everything he does....including, if I remember correctly, his golf game and his vacation plans. What has President Obama done to you personally?

One wonders, do you work? Are you posting your hateful political vitriol while sitting at your desk instead of doing whatever you job is? Do you not have a social life outside of posting on Getbig? -No family....no friends?

I guess if President Obama should win reelection in 2012, you'll have to commit suicide or move to another country, huh?

Facts speak for themselves. 
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 02:07:04 PM
Obama TV ratings drop for joint session speech - lowest ever.
washington examiner ^ | washington examiner


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President Obama’s jobs speech represented the lowest ratings he’s received for any address to a joint session of Congress of his presidency.

The speech garnered 31.5 million viewers, according to the website TVbythenumbers, which was slightly lower than his Sept. 2009 health care speech to Congress, which drew 32.1 million viewers and is probably the fairest comparison.

But viewed against other addresses to Congress, it looks worse, and is part of a broader downward trend.

During his first speech to a joint session of Congress in February 2009, Obama drew 52.4 million viewers. His first official State of the Union Address on January 2010 drew 48 million viewers and this year’s SOTU had 42.8 million.

His highest rated speech of all time was his speech on the death of Osama bin Laden, which drew 56.5 million viewers, though it wasn’t to a joint session.


(Excerpt) Read more at campaign2012.washingtone xaminer.com ...
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 08:27:03 PM
Is called Chicago saul Alinsky tactics.

Obama is a street thug and no different than a rabble rouser and community communist.   


anyone that's black, to you, is a street thug
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 08:28:05 PM
Incorrect - they also get a refund......the 47%  refers to those whose net payments are ZERO, either through reductions, credits, or income levels low enough to not qualify.

I can tell you that not all of those people get refunds...sorry
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 08:29:36 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. So, I can accept that you don't feel President Obama is doing his job well. What I don't get is why you are so married to your "hatred" toward him that you find it necessary to spend a good portion of your waking time posting negative opinions about everything he does....including, if I remember correctly, his golf game and his vacation plans. What has President Obama done to you personally?

One wonders, do you work? Are you posting your hateful political vitriol while sitting at your desk instead of doing whatever you job is? Do you not have a social life outside of posting on Getbig? -No family....no friends?

I guess if President Obama should win reelection in 2012, you'll have to commit suicide or move to another country, huh?

he dares to be black
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 08:32:34 PM
The only good thing about obama is that he is black.  The rest sucks.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 09, 2011, 08:43:07 PM
The only good thing about obama is that he is black.  The rest sucks.

why don't you go post in the bodybuilding sections for a change????
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: GigantorX on September 09, 2011, 08:53:17 PM
I can tell you that not all of those people get refunds...sorry


Oh, phew, I was sweating that one out for while!
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 10, 2011, 07:51:30 AM
Obama jobs plan heartens frustrated blacks
By ERRIN HAINES, Associated Press – 6 hours ago 
ATLANTA (AP) — President Barack Obama's jobs pitch is already playing well with blacks, who had grown plenty irked with him over what they perceived as his indifference to their needs.
A day after Obama laid out before Congress his plan to kick-start job growth, many blacks hoped it would translate into reduced misery for them over the coming months. While the country's unemployment rate stands at 9.1 percent, black unemployment has hit 16.7 percent, the highest since 1984. Unemployment among male blacks is at 18 percent, and black teens are unemployed at a rate of 46.5 percent.
The early signs of their reaction were positive.
Social media sites were abuzz with highlights from the president's plan. Amid the comments were excited responses to the proposal, especially from the black community. Twitter was full of similar bursts of excitement over the plan, with some black Tweeters defending the president and applauding his message. One user tweeted: "Taking a sharp tone 'cause the NumbersDontLie! Pass this bill and put America back to work."
Prominent African-Americans like Kenneth Chenault, chairman and CEO of American Express and Michael Nutter, mayor of Philadelphia, quickly applauded the plan. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., has been one of the most vocal advocates for dealing more effectively with black unemployment, but she was enthusiastic.
For the president, it was a welcome change in tone after a steady drumbeat of criticism from members of the Congressional Black Caucus, who held their own job fairs and town hall meetings while protesting that Obama's jobs tour across America last month bypassed black communities.
The caucus' urban blitz cleared a path for the country's first black president to act, Waters said.
"I can see that our handprint is all over it," Waters said of Obama's plan. "We upped the ante a little bit by pushing, being a bit more vocal. This was not done in a way to threaten the president but to make it easier for him. We think we helped him to be able to formulate a response."
The jobs plan was praised by Ralph Everett, president and chief executive of the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a nonpartisan black think tank.
Although the president did not specifically mention high unemployment among blacks, black people "are sophisticated enough to understand" how their communities will benefit, U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk said Friday.
"Obviously there is a debate raging, saying that we should come out and say this expressly for the black and Latino community," Kirk said. "But this president got elected spectacularly on his premise that we are not a black America, a brown America, a white America. We are one America."
The White House moved quickly to capitalize politically on the good will, emailing an extraordinary blast of supportive statements from elected officials, union leaders and interest groups within minutes after Obama spoke Thursday night.
On Friday, while the president pushed his American Jobs Act in Richmond, Va., his aides promoted targeted relief to Hispanics, teachers, police officers, construction workers, small businesses and others.
Administration officials said the plan would extend unemployment benefits and provide support for 1.4 million blacks who have been unemployed six months or longer. It also would provide summer and subsidized jobs for youth, help boost the paychecks of 20 million black workers through an extension and expansion of the payroll tax, and benefit, in some way, more than 100,000 black-owned small businesses.
"With over 16 percent of African-Americans out of work and over 1 million African-Americans out of work over six months, I think the president believes this is a serious problem and the onus is on us to do everything we can to tackle this," Danielle Gray, deputy director of the National Economic Council, told reporters.
White House adviser Valerie Jarrett promoted Obama's plan on Steve Harvey's syndicated morning radio show, saying it would help "every part of our country, but particularly those who are the most vulnerable, who have been struggling the hardest, who have been trying to make ends meet and all they need is a little help from their government."
A factor in the early enthusiasm in Obama's plan with blacks is that most accept that, as the country's first black president, there are limits to what he can do about their specific problems — especially as he heads into the 2012 campaign.
"Do I think he's doing everything he can? Yes, of course," said Tonia Thomas, 44, a divorced Atlanta mother who was unemployed for more than a year before taking a $30,000 pay cut to work as a hotel clerk. "A lot of what's going on is being used to exclude people of color in general. I don't know what he can do."
The president has to be careful in targeting his efforts, some say.

"The more he talks about race, the more votes he loses," said Randall Kennedy, author of a new book exploring racial politics and the Obama presidency. "Barack Obama had to overcome his blackness to become president ... and he's going to have to overcome it to be re-elected."

Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed, an Obama supporter who engaged in damage control for the president this week, said black Americans "need to burst this false notion" that the president should put black unemployment on par with overall unemployment.

"If leaders in our community want to push him to lay out a black agenda, I believe that will end up disserving the black community and help elect people who certainly don't have a past history about caring about the interests of the African-American community," Reed said after Obama's speech. "This debate is weakening the president and puts him in a political position where he has to do something to confirm his blackness."
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 10, 2011, 07:52:28 AM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j9DVMA4zhpjREg4WgQXAEUxFz8cQ?docId=7fb55f1cf20f443188dd8a6a287aa10b


Proving once again politically, 95 percent of blacks are fools.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 10, 2011, 09:19:50 AM
The government always does a great job fixing things, Im sure they'll sort this one out too.

Gov’t Panel Uncovers $60 Billion Lost to Waste and Fraud in Iraq, Afghanistan

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/govt-panel-uncovers-60-billion-lost-to-waste-and-fraud-in-iraq-afghanistan/



Thousands of companies that cashed in on President Barack Obama's economic stimulus package owed the government millions in unpaid taxes, congressional investigators have found.  The Government Accountability Office, in a report being released Tuesday, said at least 3,700 government contractors and nonprofit organizations that received more than $24 billion from the stimulus effort owed $757 million in back taxes as of Sept. 30, 2009, the end of the budget year.

http://www.istockanalyst.com/finance/story/5179493/tax-cheats-receive-24-billion-of-stimulus-money


(http://www.dailyjobsupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/Food-Stamps-Yearly.jpg)


SANTA MONICA, Calif. — October 28, 2009 — Edmunds.com, the premier resource for online automotive information, has determined that Cash for Clunkers cost taxpayers $24,000 per vehicle sold.

http://www.edmunds.com/about/press/cash-for-clunkers-results-finally-in-taxpayers-paid-24000-per-vehicle-sold-reports-edmundscom.html?articleid=159446&


20 biggest money losers (CNN)

1. Fannie Mae

The mortgage giant was one of the first big financial institutions to receive government aid during the financial crisis, and it may well be the last to dig itself out. Government-controlled Fannie has said not to expect a turnaround anytime soon


2. Freddie Mac

Freddie and Fannie had together received more than $110 billion from Uncle Sam


White House Supported Solar Company Files Bankruptcy Ties To Obama Being Investigated

http://www.rightface.us/video/white-house-supported-solar-company-files-bankruptcy-ties-to-obam?xg_source=activity


CNN Poll: 3 of 4 Americans say much of stimulus money wasted

Nearly three out of four Americans think that at least half of the money spent in the federal stimulus plan has been wasted, according to a new national poll.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Fury on September 10, 2011, 09:22:15 AM
The government always does a great job fixing things, Im sure they'll sort this one out too.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/govt-panel-uncovers-60-billion-lost-to-waste-and-fraud-in-iraq-afghanistan/

Gov’t Panel Uncovers $60 Billion Lost to Waste and Fraud in Iraq, Afghanistan


Thousands of companies that cashed in on President Barack Obama's economic stimulus package owed the government millions in unpaid taxes, congressional investigators have found.  The Government Accountability Office, in a report being released Tuesday, said at least 3,700 government contractors and nonprofit organizations that received more than $24 billion from the stimulus effort owed $757 million in back taxes as of Sept. 30, 2009, the end of the budget year.

http://www.istockanalyst.com/finance/story/5179493/tax-cheats-receive-24-billion-of-stimulus-money


(http://www.dailyjobsupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/Food-Stamps-Yearly.jpg)


SANTA MONICA, Calif. — October 28, 2009 — Edmunds.com, the premier resource for online automotive information, has determined that Cash for Clunkers cost taxpayers $24,000 per vehicle sold.

http://www.edmunds.com/about/press/cash-for-clunkers-results-finally-in-taxpayers-paid-24000-per-vehicle-sold-reports-edmundscom.html?articleid=159446&


20 biggest money losers (CNN)

1. Fannie Mae

The mortgage giant was one of the first big financial institutions to receive government aid during the financial crisis, and it may well be the last to dig itself out. Government-controlled Fannie has said not to expect a turnaround anytime soon


2. Freddie Mac

Freddie and Fannie had together received more than $110 billion from Uncle Sam


White House Supported Solar Company Files Bankruptcy Ties To Obama Being Investigated

http://www.rightface.us/video/white-house-supported-solar-company-files-bankruptcy-ties-to-obam?xg_source=activity


CNN Poll: 3 of 4 Americans say much of stimulus money wasted

Nearly three out of four Americans think that at least half of the money spent in the federal stimulus plan has been wasted, according to a new national poll.

Bullshit. According to the far-left, anything the private sector does the government can do better. Hand over your money to President Downgrade!

President Downgrade's team says every $1.00 in food stamps returns $1.84 to the economy. We're going to foodstamp our way to prosperity! An 84% ROI!
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 10, 2011, 10:04:15 AM
I can tell you that not all of those people get refunds...sorry

Fine.  Then why did you mention them as part of the 47% that do not pay any taxes?  If they pay taxes but don't get it all back, then they....pay taxes.  They're not in the group that doesn't, therefore not in the group 33386 was referring to.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 10, 2011, 05:45:38 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j9DVMA4zhpjREg4WgQXAEUxFz8cQ?docId=7fb55f1cf20f443188dd8a6a287aa10b


Proving once again politically, 95 percent of blacks are fools.

what percentage of whites were fools for voting for Bush????
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 10, 2011, 05:52:10 PM
Fine.  Then why did you mention them as part of the 47% that do not pay any taxes?  If they pay taxes but don't get it all back, then they....pay taxes.  They're not in the group that doesn't, therefore not in the group 33386 was referring to.

I think you have me mixed up with someone else....I think it was Beach bum who said that...I stated that I think they should pay more as well along with the rich
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 10, 2011, 06:27:19 PM
Not confused, it was your response.


What about the 47% who pay nothing at all?

well they do pay...out of their payroll taxes......but I agree that they should pay more as well

Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2011, 01:07:28 AM
he dares to be black

Oh sweet irony.

Does being "black" as you call it mean being unqualified, incompetent, anti american, out of touch and ignorant?

Just want to clarify.

Perhaps the 5 or 6 functional brain cells you have in that validated, "black" walnut sized brain of yours could explain how and why everyone is a racist except you+ why you think being a failure is synonymous with being black.  ::)

I can see Obama's 2012 slogans now-->

DARE TO BE BLACK! DESTROY AMERICA! OBAMA 2012!
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 11, 2011, 04:57:55 AM
Politically - 95 percent of blacks are brain dead morons.

As for andre - geez dude - obama could stick a plunger in your rectum in a police station while singing dixie w the dukes of hazard on in the background and you would still support him.  Sad how blacks have sold their souls for the political equivalent of table scraps and crumbs.
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 11, 2011, 08:58:41 AM
Oh sweet irony.

Does being "black" as you call it mean being unqualified, incompetent, anti american, out of touch and ignorant?

Just want to clarify.

Perhaps the 5 or 6 functional brain cells you have in that validated, "black" walnut sized brain of yours could explain how and why everyone is a racist except you+ why you think being a failure is synonymous with being black.  ::)

I can see Obama's 2012 slogans now-->

DARE TO BE BLACK! DESTROY AMERICA! OBAMA 2012!

well..first of all you really shouldn't get involved in a personal feud between myself and PEA BRAIN....its outside the context of whats going on here on the board....but if you really insist on getting involved then its funny that you never ever take PEA BRAIN to task for any of the nonsense he spouts on here and the racist stuff he injects into political discussions...if you were the voice of reason that you aspire to be you would call people out for bringing up racist stuff no matter what their political bent...you only direct that towards me...why is that?...as a matter of fact you only talk about race about 97% of the time.....you get  sexually aroused every time you see a thread that talks about race and you interject with more racist nonsense

I don't know what happened to you..you used to be a reasonable intelligent poster....I remember agreeing with you many times...but I guess you have been infected with the same racism you claim to see in me...you and I both know that Obama being black does have an affect on how people view his politics....admit and move on...at least you'd finally be honest with yourself
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 12, 2011, 04:59:04 AM
         
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September 12, 2011
Obama Buys the Drinks That Other Guys Pay For
By Michael Barone
What is there to say about Barack Obama's speech to Congress Thursday night and the so-called American Jobs Act he said Congress must pass? Several thoughts occur, all starting with P.

Projection. That's psychologist-speak term for projecting your own faults on others. "This isn't political grandstanding," Obama told members of Congress, as Republicans snickered (but thankfully resisted the temptation to shout, "You lie!"). "This isn't class warfare."


These sentences came four paragraphs after Obama insisted that "the most affluent citizens and corporations" should pay more taxes (which spurs job creation how?) and not long before he promised to "take that message to every corner of the country."

Lest there be an doubt about Obama's real intentions, consider that his speech was obviously modeled on Harry Truman's call for a special session of the Republican Congress in the summer of 1948 so he could campaign against it. And consider that Obama pointedly refused to rebuke Jim Hoffa's "let's take these sons of bitches out" -- meaning Republicans -- when he introduced him last Monday in Detroit.

Pragmatism. Perceptive writers like David Brooks of The New York Times told us in 2008 that Obama was basically a pragmatist, a slave to no ideology but simply a student of what works. Brooks was apparently impressed by Obama's mention of Edmund Burke and the sharp crease in his pants.

But a pragmatist would probably not choose to call for more of the policies that plainly haven't worked. Infrastructure spending (shovel ready, anyone?), subsidies of teachers' salaries, fixing roofs and windows on schools -- these were all in the 2009 stimulus package, which has led to the stagnant economy we have today.

A pragmatist doesn't keep pressing the same garage door button when the garage door doesn't open. He gets out of the car and tries to identify what's wrong.

Paid for. "Everything in this bill," Obama said in his eighth paragraph, "will be paid for. Everything."

By whom? Well, in the 24th paragraph he tells us that he is asking the 12-member super-committee Congress set up under the debt ceiling bill to add another $450,000,000,000 or so to the $1,500,000,000,000 in savings it is charged to come up with. The roving camera showed the ordinarily hardy super-committee member Sen. Jon Kyl looking queasy.

Obama is like the guy in the bar who says, "I'll stand drinks for everyone in the house," and then adds, "Those guys over there are going to pay for them."

What's fascinating here is that once again the supposedly pragmatic and sometimes professorial president is not making use of the first class professionals in the Office of Management and Budget to come up with specifics, but is leaving that to members of Congress, maybe in a midnight marathon session with deadlines pending. Same as on the stimulus package and Obamacare.

Pathetic promises. Perhaps he hoped people wouldn't notice, but Obama did put in two words -- "faster trains" -- as a plug for his pet project of high-speed rail. Liberal blogger Kevin Drum calls California's HSR project, the largest in the nation, "a fantastic boondoggle," likely to cost three or four times estimates and with ridership estimates that are "fantasies." "We have way better uses for this dough," Drum concludes.

Political payoffs. Nearly one-quarter of this latest stimulus package -- sorry, American Jobs Act -- is aid to state and local government, to keep teachers and other public employee union members on the job and paying dues to the unions. Altogether unions gave Democrats some $400 million in the 2008 election cycle. Pretty good return on their "investment," eh?

Pettifoggery. Obama impressed many conservative writers in 2008 with his ability to state their positions in fair terms -- which led some to think that surely he must agree with them. But he seems to have lost this knack.

Conservatives, according to this speech, want to "wipe out the basic protections that Americans have counted on for decades" and "simply cut most government spending and eliminate most government regulations."

"Most" means more than 50 percent. Does the White House have documentation for the claim that Republicans want to cut government spending by more than 50 percent? And what "basic protections" do they want to "wipe out"?

Barack Obama seemed like an unhappy warrior Thursday night, still unreconciled to the results of the 2010 elections, "seeming desperate and condescending at the same time," in the words of maverick liberal blogger Mickey Kaus. That darn garage door just won't open! 

Copyright 2011, Creators Syndicate Inc.

Www.realclearpolitics.co m
Title: Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 12, 2011, 05:11:52 AM
Jarrett: No Jobs Bill Yet; "President Is Going To Draft The Legislation"
Real Clear Politics ^ | September 10, 2011 | Valerie Jarrett
Posted on September 11, 2011 11:53:28 PM EDT by Attention Surplus Disorder

Jarrett: No Jobs Bill Yet; "President Is Going To Draft The Legislation"

Valerie Jarrett, White House senior adviser, talks with Rachel Maddow about the significance of President Obama's jobs plan to his presidency and what his plan is for its passage.

Jarrett implies the complete jobs bill has not been fully written yet, however it will be by next week and the President will submit it to Congress for cost scoring.

"Congress should pass this bill right now," Jarrett said on MSNBC. No more than one minute later, Jarrett said the White House is still writing the bill and it will be submitted to Congress next week.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/10/valerie_jarrett_no_jobs_bill_yet_the_president_is_going_to_draft_the_legislation.html

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...





More lies from obama.