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Title: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Nails on September 08, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
.... 5 more minutes before NFL FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!


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Title: Re: President Obama Speach right now
Post by: Nails on September 08, 2011, 04:42:52 PM
Americans Job Act  ???
Title: Re: President Obama Speach right now
Post by: Nails on September 08, 2011, 04:44:45 PM
Speech ended right on time..... bet he couldn't hurry fast enough off the podium to his tv set


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Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Nails on September 08, 2011, 04:48:13 PM
President Briefed before speech about a good word on the street from pakistan that Truck bombs all over NYC ready to explode on 9/11 anniversary
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Nails on September 08, 2011, 04:58:39 PM
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Police EVERYWHERE outside my hotel in NY's Time Square. Now I know why- Heightened security due to car/truck bomb threats due to 9/11 anniversary. Scary.





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Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2011, 05:07:26 PM
why does the job's bill need to cost 450billion dollars. just give the middle class and rich a nice fat tax cut, no suspense, no speech, no bs just do that mr president and people would go out right now and start spending
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: ManBearPig... on September 08, 2011, 05:10:14 PM
why does the job's bill need to cost 450billion dollars. just give the middle class and rich a nice fat tax cut, no suspense, no speech, no bs just do that mr president and people would go out right now and start spending

read between the lines, he's raising taxes on the "rich" to raise salaries for the civil / public union workers.

this jobs program is about as awesome as his first one, where he paid $10 million to insulate 3 houses in seattle and $800,000 to make 12 pairs of boots for the US army.
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 08, 2011, 05:15:43 PM
.... 5 more minutes before NFL FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!


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Well, it would have been largely ignored since the GOP wasn't planning to do a rebuttal and football was about to start but Michelle Bachmann decided upon herself to issue a rebuttal.....what a dumb idea
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2011, 05:18:19 PM
read between the lines, he's raising taxes on the "rich" to raise salaries for the civil / public union workers.

this jobs program is about as awesome as his first one, where he paid $10 million to insulate 3 houses in seattle and $800,000 to make 12 pairs of boots for the US army.

in the speech he said he was going to cut taxes, i dont understand why there needs to be a 450 billion dollar bill to cut taxes



it was halarious when obama was just talking about cutting regulations (not implying he was going to implement cutting the red tape)and red tape when the audience prematurely gave a prolonged applause and interrupted him somewhat, it was LOL cause obama wasnt even thinking about doing that sort of thing he was just complaining about the "red -tape" he didnt propose to do anythning except "evaluate the regulations" LOLZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: mcfinn70 on September 08, 2011, 05:21:30 PM
why does the job's bill need to cost 450billion dollars. just give the middle class and rich a nice fat tax cut, no suspense, no speech, no bs just do that mr president and people would go out right now and start spending

We are paying the lowest level of taxes in generations.  And that is not working.  The Rich are not spending their money on things that make jobs, they are investing in jobs in China and India.   Reaganomics didn't work.  We need an FDR moment. 
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2011, 05:23:07 PM
We are paying the lowest level of taxes in generations.  And that is not working.  The Rich are not spending their money on things that make jobs, they are investing in jobs in China and India.   Reaganomics didn't work.  We need an FDR moment. 

we need lower taxes to keep up with the rate of inflation of goods that we buy

taxes may be slightly down but inflation is way up
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: MuscleManiac on September 08, 2011, 05:26:04 PM
I'm sorry but where the hell is this money coming from to fund a jobs bill. You can't find a job now so the government is suppose to give you one. Give me a break  :o

As much as I've thought about going back to school to get a job again the reality is that most of these jobs are going to be gone in the next 5 years because they are so basic a damn monkey can do them. I mean try working on a business and getting sick but you can't go to the doctor because its either pay to keep the business going or get insurance. I've had so many people tell me, "oh just go get a job". I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone else cut off my income with two words (you're fired) ever again. I'm just shocked at how many people have jobs where they produce absolutely no value whatsoever...they push paper. I can pay people in China pennies to do the same thing and people wonder why jobs are getting outsourced :(

It's scary as hell being an entrepreneur and working for yourself because if I don't make any money I don't eat but I'll be damned if I go through what I went through at Lehman Brothers all over again. I went from having a full time offer for after college to no offer and had to take out close to 20K in loans to cover that school year because the damn bank closed down.
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
I'm sorry but where the hell is this money coming from to fund a jobs bill. You can't find a job now so the government is suppose to give you one. Give me a break  :o

As much as I've thought about going back to school to get a job again the reality is that most of these jobs are going to be gone in the next 5 years because they are so basic a damn monkey can do them. I'm just shocked at how many people have jobs where they produce absolutely no value whatsoever...they push paper. I can pay people in China pennies to do the same thing and people wonder why jobs are getting outsourced :(

It's scary as hell being an entrepreneur and working for yourself because if I don't make any money I don't eat but I'll be damned if I go through what I went through at Lehman Brothers all over again. I went from having a full time offer for after college to no offer and had to take out close to 20K in loans to cover that school year because the damn bank closed down.


if you can get a loan dont waste it on schooling unless its some cheap community college program , take a loan out on a house and rent it out, steady money, get rich slow is the key
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Natural Man on September 08, 2011, 05:31:03 PM
time to buy guns and stock cans of food and water jugs. Get ready to run for the forests and to hunt and eat squirrels, drink rain water for a long time. I hope you know how to make a fire!

Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: King Shizzo on September 08, 2011, 05:38:26 PM
I'm sorry but where the hell is this money coming from to fund a jobs bill. You can't find a job now so the government is suppose to give you one. Give me a break  :o

As much as I've thought about going back to school to get a job again the reality is that most of these jobs are going to be gone in the next 5 years because they are so basic a damn monkey can do them. I mean try working on a business and getting sick but you can't go to the doctor because its either pay to keep the business going or get insurance. I've had so many people tell me, "oh just go get a job". I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone else cut off my income with two words (you're fired) ever again. I'm just shocked at how many people have jobs where they produce absolutely no value whatsoever...they push paper. I can pay people in China pennies to do the same thing and people wonder why jobs are getting outsourced :(

It's scary as hell being an entrepreneur and working for yourself because if I don't make any money I don't eat but I'll be damned if I go through what I went through at Lehman Brothers all over again. I went from having a full time offer for after college to no offer and had to take out close to 20K in loans to cover that school year because the damn bank closed down.
Hi coach!
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: bike nut on September 08, 2011, 05:41:51 PM
Poor old, online business, nickel and dime, hustle and scam Melvin Goodrum sticking up for the Community Organizer.
How predictable.

Vince, Bachman's rebuttal sure as hell had a lot more credibilty than MSNBC having Al Sharpton on for his unbiased observations about the GOP debate last night.

What's wrong Vince, your "Gubment cheese" at risk?

What we saw from Obama tonight was a vapid campaign speach - nothing more. 14 months and this clown is LONG gone.
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: tbombz on September 08, 2011, 05:57:17 PM
looks like a bipartisan plan focusing on the working class and employers as well.

could make a small difference, but its not the new deal.










EMPLOYEE PAYROLL TAX HOLIDAY

Obama is proposing a $175 billion one-year extension and expansion of the employee payroll tax holiday that would halve the tax rate to 3.1 percent in 2012.

EMPLOYER PAYROLL TAX HOLIDAY

Obama is seeking $65 billion to encourage small businesses to hire more workers. This includes halving employer payroll taxes to 3.1 percent for the first $5 million of a company's wage bill in 2012, which the administration says will reach 98 percent of small businesses. He also wants a complete payroll tax holiday for increasing the size of the payroll by up to $50 million above the prior year, either by hiring new workers or raising the salaries of the existing labor force.

HOUSING

Obama wants to broaden homeowner access to mortgage refinancing and help the battered housing market by allowing households to take advantage of ultra-low borrowing costs that would help them put their finances on a sounder footing.

Administration officials say he hopes to push forward with a plan in the next few weeks. To hammer out a proposal, the Treasury Department is talking with U.S. mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and their regulator the Federal Housing Finance Agency, to figure out ways to broaden access for homeowners by removing barriers to refinancing.

EXTENDING 100 PERCENT COMPANY EXPENSING INTO 2012

At a cost of $5 billion, Obama wants to extend a 100 percent expensing tax break for companies, allowing them to immediately take a tax deduction for investment in new plant and equipment.

$85 BLN IN AID FOR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS

-- $35 billion to keep teachers, firefighters and police officers in their jobs, of which $30 billion would go to schools and $5 billion to police and firefighters.

-- $30 billion to modernize schools and community colleges.

-- $15 billion to rehabilitate and refurbish vacant and foreclosed homes.

-- $5 billion to help low-income youths and adult workers, supporting summer and year-round jobs for young people and support subsidized work for unemployed low-income workers.

ROAD, RAIL AND AVIATION INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING

Obama seeks $50 billion to invest in highways, transit, rail and aviation, including upgrading U.S. airports and supporting Nextgen Air Traffic modernization.

INFRASTRUCTURE BANK

Obama wants $10 billion to capitalize an infrastructure bank to leverage private and public infrastructure investment "without earmarks or traditional influence," the White House says.

EXTENDING UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE, BRIDGE TO WORK

-- $49 billion for a one-year extension of long-term unemployment benefits that would otherwise expire, which the White House says prevents 6 million jobless Americans from losing benefits. It includes reforms to the jobless aid system and a "bridge to work" program to help get unemployed people back to work.

-- $8 billion for tax credits for long-term unemployed.
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2011, 05:59:54 PM
I'm listening to the game on the radio. Screw that POS!
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: reppingfor20 on September 08, 2011, 06:06:10 PM
We are paying the lowest level of taxes in generations.  And that is not working.  The Rich are not spending their money on things that make jobs, they are investing in jobs in China and India.   Reaganomics didn't work.  We need an FDR moment. 

boom, learn some history people.  good post

Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: bike nut on September 08, 2011, 06:13:34 PM
Coach - $450 billion for SFA. Won't stimulate anything but Keith Oberman's penis loving Liberal lips. Blah, blah, blah, renovate schools, sell U.S. cars in Korea, keep the lower common denominator on gubment mooch benefits another year.

A massive railroad spike in his re-election coffin.

ONE AND DONE!!!!!
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: reppingfor20 on September 08, 2011, 06:18:16 PM
twisters power is out I think he might have missed the great speech by the President.  Coach needs to learn history, or history will repeat itself, too bad he never graduated college :)

Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: bike nut on September 08, 2011, 06:29:17 PM
"We have to pass this right away". If only we would have known about those bad rich guys and corporations two years ago. We have to pass this right away. Is that outsourcing Jeff Immelt from GE sitting next to my wife Chewbacca? We have to pass this right away. If I'm elected school president there will be no school on Fridays. We have to pass this right away.

Pure $450 billion folly.
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: ManBearPig... on September 08, 2011, 06:47:23 PM
you can't encourage hiring through tax cuts.  if he gave my business a $50,000 tax cut, i wouldn't hire another person because : a. we wouldn't know what to do with him, there's no need for him around, hed'be a nuisance just to look at.

the only way the US can get out of this stagnant shitpile we're in is with the advent of some new technology.  innovation, whether created or stolen from others, is what drove the economy, the "building of crap we didn't know we needed".  until such a thing comes along, i think we're all just gonna sit on our fists.

no, "green movement" is not that thing.  that's just a pile of shit idea that's inefficient realistically and monetarily; just another set of regulations the goverment can tax if found in violation.

compact flourescent bulbs, lol.
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Doug_Steele on September 08, 2011, 07:32:17 PM
Actually thought it was a pretty good speech except the mandating congress to pass the bill part. I also still have no clue of the numbers and details of the bill. But hey, number and dollars are for accountants right? (Sarcasm) the problem is that the left legislates on nice feelings and ideas, no matter the cost or consequences. Biggest issue is still no hard numbers.

The ideas he put forth were fine though. I like the statement that government can't rescue the economy its got to be american businesses...he is sounding so centrist though I am betting this is the kickoff speech of his reelection campaign.
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: deadz on September 08, 2011, 07:34:52 PM
I'm listening to the game on the radio. Screw that POS!
x2, all fucking lies from a pathetic leader douchebag!
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Benny B on September 08, 2011, 07:38:50 PM
x2, all fucking lies from a pathetic leader douchebag!

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Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: reppingfor20 on September 08, 2011, 08:53:15 PM
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haha LOL x2, they can't stand to hear the truth and a great speech by our great leader, they will crumble in fear and cry in the corner, they only like to listen to revisionist news the next day on talk radio, what idiots.

Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: deadz on September 08, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
haha LOL x2, they can't stand to hear the truth and a great speech by our great leader, they will crumble in fear and cry in the corner, they only like to listen to revisionist news the next day on talk radio, what idiots.


LOL
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2011, 09:39:19 PM
We have three major naive idiots on this board...

Benny - just feel sorry for his retard self
Tbombz - i like tbombz but he has no clue how the real world works especially since he doesn't vote, doesn't have a job and lives with mommy and daddy...which brings me to #3
Reppingfor20 or better known as JTsunami - who is a communtist, terrorist sympathizing little prick who should be shot and deported in a box for treason...same with Benny, but not shot, water boarding would work just fine because he's a pussy and thinks it "torture".
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2011, 09:45:19 PM
Its not the save Americans job act, it's the save Obama's job act.....and it was an act!
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2011, 09:56:15 PM
Its not the save Americans job act, it's the save Obama's job act.....and it was an act!

Perhaps you are right. However, I find it interesting that so many folks are ready to jump on any idea to improve the dismal job situation in this country while never offering a solution themselves. This goes for politicians as well as the general populace....including you and I.
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: 20inch calves on September 08, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
I'm sorry but where the hell is this money coming from to fund a jobs bill. You can't find a job now so the government is suppose to give you one. Give me a break  :o

As much as I've thought about going back to school to get a job again the reality is that most of these jobs are going to be gone in the next 5 years because they are so basic a damn monkey can do them. I mean try working on a business and getting sick but you can't go to the doctor because its either pay to keep the business going or get insurance. I've had so many people tell me, "oh just go get a job". I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone else cut off my income with two words (you're fired) ever again. I'm just shocked at how many people have jobs where they produce absolutely no value whatsoever...they push paper. I can pay people in China pennies to do the same thing and people wonder why jobs are getting outsourced :(

It's scary as hell being an entrepreneur and working for yourself because if I don't make any money I don't eat but I'll be damned if I go through what I went through at Lehman Brothers all over again. I went from having a full time offer for after college to no offer and had to take out close to 20K in loans to cover that school year because the damn bank closed down.


it didn;t work the first time. he built highways ect to create jobs ::) there were news reports where local goverment was pocketing this federal money to put america back to work
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2011, 11:16:39 PM
I'm sorry but where the hell is this money coming from to fund a jobs bill. You can't find a job now so the government is suppose to give you one. Give me a break  :o

As much as I've thought about going back to school to get a job again the reality is that most of these jobs are going to be gone in the next 5 years because they are so basic a damn monkey can do them. I mean try working on a business and getting sick but you can't go to the doctor because its either pay to keep the business going or get insurance. I've had so many people tell me, "oh just go get a job". I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone else cut off my income with two words (you're fired) ever again. I'm just shocked at how many people have jobs where they produce absolutely no value whatsoever...they push paper. I can pay people in China pennies to do the same thing and people wonder why jobs are getting outsourced :(

It's scary as hell being an entrepreneur and working for yourself because if I don't make any money I don't eat but I'll be damned if I go through what I went through at Lehman Brothers all over again. I went from having a full time offer for after college to no offer and had to take out close to 20K in loans to cover that school year because the damn bank closed down.

My stepfather was a self-employed painting contractor. He made good money....much better than he would have made working for someone else. I am all for entrepreneurship. Just be sure to set aside money for the time when you can no longer work as hard as it takes to make a business go.

My stepdad neglected to do that, thinking he would always be able to work. Unfortunately in his early sixties he found that he didn't have the same energy he'd had in his thirties, fourties and fifties. My parents, who had always lived "high on the hog" found themselves facing a greatly reduced income. Unfortunately, my stepdad died at sixty-seven from lung cancer. However, had he lived much longer he would have literally been in the poor house. As it was, my mom had to move in with my wife and me because she didn't have enough income from SSI and a modest life insurance policy payoff she got after my stepdad's passing. She was dying from emphysema. She lived with us for three years until she died at sixty-three.

They both died a long time ago. Somehow they'd managed to get by without health insurance. This is not something one would want to do today. One major medical event can wipe a person out. Times change.
Title: Re: President Obama Speech right now
Post by: reppingfor20 on September 09, 2011, 05:03:34 PM
We have three major naive idiots on this board...

Benny - just feel sorry for his retard self
Tbombz - i like tbombz but he has no clue how the real world works especially since he doesn't vote, doesn't have a job and lives with mommy and daddy...which brings me to #3
Reppingfor20 or better known as JTsunami - who is a communtist, terrorist sympathizing little prick who should be shot and deported in a box for treason...same with Benny, but not shot, water boarding would work just fine because he's a pussy and thinks it "torture".

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