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Title: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 05:26:33 PM
Does anyone have more information on this. Im curious to know what he said.

(http://nation.foxnews.com/sites/nation.foxnews.com/files/styles/dv1/public/636_090811_fx_perry.jpg)

At the September 7 Republican debate, Ron Paul clashed with fellow Texan Rick Perry once again.
 
This time, things got physical.
 
During a commercial break, Perry walked up to Paul's podium, physically grabbed Paul's wrist, and pointed at Paul's face with his other hand.


Read more: http://img.ibtimes.com/www/articles/20110908/210639_ron-paul-debate-rick-perry-gop-debate-september-7.htm#ixzz1XPVgKEVZ
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 05:28:08 PM
Must have been something about that gardisil stuff.  Perry got smacked hard on that.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 05:29:58 PM
What a fucking loser.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/MJU1983/ccd41ac132d32114f80e6a706700d7fa.jpg)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 05:32:43 PM
Paul should've kicked him in the nuts but Perry's nuts are probably so small that he would have missed them completly anyway. Real classy Perry.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/MJU1983/090711_daypix18.jpg)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Skip8282 on September 08, 2011, 05:32:48 PM
Perry:  If you ever publically destroy me again, my State Troopers will...
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 05:45:12 PM
Perry:  If you ever publically destroy me again, my State Troopers will...

lol
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 05:56:37 PM
If you can find out during what commercial break this took place during, we can probably surmise what it was about. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 06:01:01 PM
It was after Paul mentioned Perry's support over Hillary care and then Perry confronted Paul about the letter he wrote criticising the Reagan years when they went off coarse. Perry hates Paul and it goes back to the whole Medina/Perry thing.

 I'm still trying to find more information, but for a grown man to grab another guy like that and confront him the way he did in front of all those people, is really fucking lame. It shows he has no control over himself. This should have more media attention and I think it would really screw up Perry's campaign.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 06:06:21 PM
did Perry ever vote for RR? 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 08, 2011, 06:07:34 PM
If you can find out during what commercial break this took place during, we can probably surmise what it was about. 
it was after their the Gardisil hillary care support exchange.  If anyone wants to see the letter he wrote to Hillary, it's posted online.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 06:09:38 PM
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2elgkcx.png)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 06:12:39 PM
it was after their the Gardisil hillary care support exchange.  If anyone wants to see the letter he wrote to Hillary, it's posted online.

erry got wrecked on all sides by that exchange.   he should just admitted he was wrong and moved on. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 06:18:06 PM
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2elgkcx.png)

RP needs to say something like this and he would ZOOOOMMM to the top: 


"I am obviously older than the others, but I am not running for wealth, ambition, or personal advancement.  I have served this country in the AF, love this country, and fear that the path we are on will lead to our collapse.   president obama is on a disastrous track and making things worse.    Am running to save our country.     Am not beholden to anyone and am perfectly fine with one term if we can reverse the disastrous course we are on.  I have always told the truth and will not lie to you.   you may not like what I have to say, but I will rip the band aide off the scab and we can be honest with each other". 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: tonymctones on September 08, 2011, 06:19:56 PM
sounds like something that hack would do.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 06:21:49 PM
RP needs to say something like this and he would ZOOOOMMM to the top: 


"I am obviously older than the others, but I am not running for wealth, ambition, or personal advancement.  I have served this country in the AF, love this country, and fear that the path we are on will lead to our collapse.   president obama is on a disastrous track and making things worse.    Am running to save our country.     Am not beholden to anyone and am perfectly fine with one term if we can reverse the disastrous course we are on.  I have always told the truth and will not lie to you.   you may not like what I have to say, but I will rip the band aide off the scab and we can be honest with each other". 

You should send him some sample material bro.. lol
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 06:23:29 PM
You should send him some sample material bro.. lol

LMAO!   Just saying.    Talk to a lot of people and hear the same thing all the time about him. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 06:54:10 PM
perry can't control his anger against a fellow republican.   he physicallys puts his hand on an old man who has served his nation delivering babies and as a medic - army or air force? 

Ron Paul is 10X the conservative that perry is...

and perry has the anger to get in his fvcking face?  and physically TOUCH another man?

fuck, that should be the highlight of the debate.  Dickhead perry can't control his damn emotions.

and did hunstman really break it up? ?????????
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
perry can't control his anger against a fellow republican.   he physicallys puts his hand on an old man who has served his nation delivering babies and as a medic - army or air force? 

Ron Paul is 10X the conservative that perry is...

and perry has the anger to get in his fvcking face?  and physically TOUCH another man?

fuck, that should be the highlight of the debate.  Dickhead perry can't control his damn emotions.

and did hunstman really break it up? ?????????

perry is probably jealous of the Ron Paul pics w Reagan and the ad rp released.   


I will vote for perry over Bama, but he is my least favorite of all running.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 06:58:34 PM
i just can't conceptualize this happened during a commercial.

perry can't control himself.  it's that simple.  he's got anger issues.  putting his hands upon, and squaring up, on an old ass man.

some low-rent shit right there.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 07:00:18 PM
i just can't conceptualize this happened during a commercial.

perry can't control himself.  it's that simple.  he's got anger issues.  putting his hands upon, and squaring up, on an old ass man.

some low-rent shit right there.

seems very insecure about something for sure. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 07:07:31 PM
Funny thread.   :)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 08, 2011, 07:22:04 PM
It looks bad...and I DON"T like Perry, but...... I still would love to see the video and hear the exchange before I conclude.. again, it does LOOK bad..   
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 07:23:03 PM
Definately creepy.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 07:24:24 PM
It doesn't look like anything but pictures of two guys talking.  Without substance and context, trying to say they were arguing, etc. is pretty silly. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: polychronopolous on September 08, 2011, 07:41:35 PM
Paul should've kicked him in the nuts but Perry's nuts are probably so small that he would have missed them completly anyway. Real classy Perry.

[img width=500 height=348]

This exact picture was on the front page of the Fort Worth Star Telegram today.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 07:44:07 PM
It doesn't look like anything but pictures of two guys talking.  Without substance and context, trying to say they were arguing, etc. is pretty silly.  

(http://i.imgur.com/PMSBK.jpg)

How many conversations do you have each day, where you feel the need to put your hand on another man AND put the finger in his face?

Grownups do not speak to one another like that.  And you never put your hands on your elder.  Perry appears to be attempting to intmidate him here.

If ANY of us was in the grocery store, and someone squared up, restrained our forearms, then put a finger in YOUR FACE - I bet that man would be getting told to step the (&*&*^ back.  
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 07:49:07 PM
It doesn't look like anything but pictures of two guys talking. 

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394246.0;attach=427628;image)

That's just 2 guys talking, huh?   More like one bully and one old man talking. 

Perry is squaring up.  That will NOT sit well with the legions of ron paul fans that he's trying to court.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: polychronopolous on September 08, 2011, 07:51:26 PM
[img width=500 height=329]

How many conversations do you have each day, where you feel the need to put your hand on another man AND put the finger in his face?

Grownups do not speak to one another like that.  And you never put your hands on your elder.  Perry appears to be attempting to intmidate him here.

If ANY of us was in the grocery store, and someone squared up, restrained our forearms, then put a finger in YOUR FACE - I bet that man would be getting told to step the (&*&*^ back.  

You would think a multiple term, career politician like Perry would be savvy enough to avoid making potential campaign destroying gaffes like this.


Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 07:53:59 PM
It doesn't look like anything but pictures of two guys talking.  Without substance and context, trying to say they were arguing, etc. is pretty silly.  

Do your conversations require security to step into the situation?  ;)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 07:54:46 PM
You would think a multiple term, career politician like Perry would be savvy enough to making potential campaign destroying gaffes like this.

He's done a good job of getting into office by avoiding debates and issues, cashing in on donors and above all, "out-texasing" the other candidates.

That works in TX.  That kind of bullying gets cheers down there.  That stuff won't play in Mass or NH.  

It's hard not to look at him as a THUG.  It's a commercial and the first thing he does is charge to the podium of a man 20 years older, and PUTS HIS HANDS on him.  What the hell.  

Geezus... imagine if OBAMA had squared up and PUT HIS HANDS on hilary during the debates.
What if BIDEN had PUT HIS HANDS upon PALIN in the debate in anger?

Holy crap, you'd have everyone blowing a gasket.  It will be interesting to see what happens here.  The guy has been on the nat'l stage for 120 minutes - really - and he's already bullied an old man in anger.  Really?
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 07:55:54 PM
Anyone have the video?

Does Ron Paul really have to STEP BACK to avoid getting chest bumped by Rick Perry?


Has Perry released an apology yet?  Perhaps something with "It's just taht I get so passionate about the issues, I feel the need to restrain 70 year old war heroes..."
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 07:56:43 PM
Anyone have the video?

Does Ron Paul really have to STEP BACK to avoid getting chest bumped by Rick Perry?


Has Perry released an apology yet?  Perhaps something with "It's just taht I get so passionate about the issues, I feel the need to restrain 70 year old war heroes..."


Im sure a video is coming.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 07:57:01 PM
Rick Perry and Ron Paul get intense during Republican presidential debate

Photos show Republican candidates Rick Perry and Ron Paul in heated discussion during a presidential debate ad break


Yup sounds like an everyday chit chat with BB.  :P


(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/9/8/1315505147430/perry_paul_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
Anyone have the video?

Does Ron Paul really have to STEP BACK to avoid getting chest bumped by Rick Perry?


Has Perry released an apology yet?  Perhaps something with "It's just taht I get so passionate about the issues, I feel the need to restrain 70 year old war heroes..."

lol
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 08:01:53 PM
That has to be about either Ronald Reagan, gardisal, or Hillary Care.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 08:03:56 PM
The other boards are saying both Huntsman and RPaul's bodyguard sprang into action.  They both thought Perry was about to assault Paul.

Perry = hates rove AND Ron paul.  Who the hell does he like?  (Besides the merek salesman...)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 08, 2011, 08:08:13 PM
It doesn't look like anything but pictures of two guys talking.  Without substance and context, trying to say they were arguing, etc. is pretty silly. 
really, most people don't look so kindly at having a finger pointing in their face.  That's usually not even cool if the talk isn't heated.  Not sure how you do things in Hawaii, but I suggest for your safety you don't talk to people like that states like Wyoming, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, Nebraska, Texas or Montana lol...  You might not get that finger back in one piece...
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 08:09:02 PM
Perry tries to give Paul the stare down but Paul just laughs in his face.

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd395/omyzach/aff25d5c32cb2114f80e6a70670076fc.jpg)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 08:11:40 PM
really, most people don't look so kindly at having a finger pointing in their face.  That's usually not even cool if the talk isn't heated.  Not sure how you do things in Hawaii, but I suggest for your safety you don't talk to people like that states like Wyoming, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, Nebraska, Texas or Montana lol...  You might not get that finger back in one piece...

it's creepy and I get uncomfortable when even business contacts get close like that.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 08:12:52 PM
Perry tries to give Paul the stare down but Paul just laughs in his face.

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd395/omyzach/aff25d5c32cb2114f80e6a70670076fc.jpg)

" no, you did defend Hillarycare, remember?"
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 08:13:00 PM
thats not intensity.   that's bullying.  WTF is wrong with the man.   Will he get in Putin's face and try that?

Geez, repubs, please select a candidate who can go 2 hours without punching an old man, mmmkay?

Remember how ppl got so pissed at the Lazio getting in hilary's personal space?  Remember gore getting hated on just for getting NEAR bush in the debate?

Perry PUT HIS HANDS on another candidate in anger.  Big mess there.

Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 08, 2011, 08:14:01 PM

Im sure a video is coming.
probably being clever not releasing video and the words, waiting for Perry to say something and then release the video.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: polychronopolous on September 08, 2011, 08:17:55 PM
Perry tries to give Paul the stare down but Paul just laughs in his face.

[img width=500 height=351]
Oh yeah, Ron Pauls an extremely sharp old man. Smarter than Perry for sure. I doubt for even a split second he was the slightest intimidated.

He was probably thinking, "What in the world are you doing?  You are completely blowing it with this ridiculous interaction"
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:18:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/PMSBK.jpg)

Grownups do not speak to one another like that.  


How the heck would you know?  lol
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 08:18:35 PM
Appearantly , Paul called Perry a pussy. To which Perry replied, "Im telling my mommy."
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
Do your conversations require security to step into the situation?  ;)

Never.  Is that what happened?  Do you know what they were talking about? 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 08:21:13 PM
How the heck would you know?  lol

your personal attack - instead of defending your statement that everyone here is mocking - speaks volumes  ;)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 08:22:12 PM
Never.  Is that what happened?  Do you know what they were talking about?  

In truth I'm just trying to figure it out like everyone and no one will know for sure untill both sides say something. Most reporters do say it was heated. I would imagine Perry's side is calling Rons side going ,"Please have mercy. This is killing us." Pauls side will probably just let it slid. But who really knows.

The story is that the guy at the podium with the pic of Perry grabbing Paul is security but like I said, who knows?
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 08:24:35 PM
In truth I'm just trying to figure it out like everyone and no one will know for sure untill both sides say something. Most reporters do say it was heated. I would imagine Perry's side is calling Rons side going ,"Please have mercy. This is killing us." Pauls side will probably just let it slid. But who really knows.

The story is that the guy at the podium with the pic of Perry grabbing Paul is security but like I said, who knows?

I would bet anything it's about the Hillary care or gsrdisil stuff.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:24:40 PM
In truth I'm just trying to figure it out like everyone and no one will know untill both sides say something. I would imagine Perry's side is calling Rons side going ,"Please have mercy. This is killing us." Pauls side will probably just let it slid. But who really knows.

The story is that the guy at the podium with the pic of Perry grabbing Paul is security but like I said, who knows?

Exactly.  Nobody knows what was said or what the context is.  The comments characterizing this as some attack are just dumb.  He could have been "attacking" Paul, but you can't tell by looking at the pictures.  
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Exactly.  Nobody knows what was said or what the context is.  The comments characterizing this as some attack are just dumb.  He could have been "attacking" Paul, but you can't tell by looking at the pictures.  

I think you're guess is pretty bad. I think the pics do say something.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 08:29:47 PM
Reports by Fox News and International Business Times state that during the break Perry "walked up to Paul's podium, physically grabbed Paul's wrist, and pointed at Paul's face with his other hand."
 
A third man, said to be Paul's security guard, is seen approaching the podium in the picture.
 
Another photo shows Perry with arms outstretched, leaning in towards Paul engaging in what may be considered lively conversation to say the least. Some Paul supporters have suggested that the shot shows that Perry physically forced Paul away from his own podium during the commercial.
 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 08:32:23 PM
Exactly.  Nobody knows what was said or what the context is.  The comments characterizing this as some attack are just dumb.  He could have been "attacking" Paul, but you can't tell by looking at the pictures. 

it's undeniable that after a heated exchange between the two during the debate, Perry entered his podium space, arms spread, grabbed his arm then pointed finger in face. 

DO you have another possible explanation?  lol
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2011, 08:34:40 PM
Ron PAul talks about it here. He downplays the whole thing. He says he doesnt even remember what it was about.

Translation: Im a real man and I don't have to say anything that the pics don't already show.  ;D

Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:35:01 PM
I think you're guess is pretty bad. I think the pics do say something.

My "guess" is that I don't know what the conversation was about:  tone, context, substance, etc.  The pictures could be completely innocuous.  Placing your hand on someone isn't necessarily a sign of aggression.  And the "finger" could have been an attempt to illustrate some point that Ron Paul actually agreed with.  Or it could have been a contentious, rude exchange.  

I get the feeling if it was some kind of attack that Paul's camp would have already put out a press release.  But who knows?  
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 08:37:58 PM
my guess is that perry could sodomize a baby seal and you'd find a way to defend it, beach bum.

Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:40:16 PM
my guess is that perry could sodomize a baby seal and you'd find a way to defend it, beach bum.



And you know how adults communicate with each other?  LOL! 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 08:42:20 PM
And you know how adults communicate with each other?  LOL! 

TBH - perry did not impress me at all.  Romney, Cain, Bachmann, Newt, huntsman, did better IMHO. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 08:43:35 PM
And you know how adults communicate with each other?  LOL!  

perhaps the baby seal was a drain upon the resources that adult seals had worked to gather.

that kind of socialism can't be tolerated.  And since the baby seal had opted out of the HPV shot that Rick Perry demanded with executive order, it was only sensible that Perry chose to finish off the seal in the most humane and SAFE way - anal prolapse* and subsequent hemorrhaging.




*GOP approved
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:45:03 PM
TBH - perry did not impress me at all.  Romney, Cain, Bachmann, Newt, huntsman, did better IMHO. 


I wasn't all that impressed with Perry either.  He did ok.  
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2011, 08:45:56 PM
perhaps the baby seal was a drain upon the resources that adult seals had worked to gather.

that kind of socialism can't be tolerated.  And since the baby seal had opted out of the HPV shot that Rick Perry demanded with executive order, it was only sensible that Perry chose to finish off the seal in the most humane and SAFE way - anal prolapse* and subsequent hemorrhaging.




*GOP approved

You're not the least bit funny.  hth
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 08, 2011, 08:48:08 PM
Not sure what rock BB just came out from, but.... duh

"Pointing at people is like using the prod (see below) and is often considered to be rude and threatening"
http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/parts_body_language/finger_body_language.htm

The worst body language sign is “pointing to something” while talking. Using your index finger to point to some one, something, or just like that. We are humans (duh). Dumb little fellows. While talking to anyone, we try to grasp what is being communicated. But we do this not just via ears, but other sensory organs too. Specially eyes. All of a sudden the communicator points to something, most of us look there. Or worst he points us while talking “You, are the one I was looking for”. Quite a motivating statement but not a very positive feeling with the pointing gesture. In most of the cases we point with the index finger. This is like piercing a nail. The recipient unconsciously, even though for a fraction of second, gets distracted. He concentrates on the finger point, not on you, nor your message. The extreme of this gesture is when someone is reminded of his mistake, reprimanded or provoked. One finger pointing and Bang ! Starts the fight.
http://bizdharma.com/blog/the-worst-body-language-sign-ever-part-one/

with a pointing fore-finger, he will feel intimidated, as the pointed finger symbolizes a stick beating him into submission. Many fights break out after someone jabs the air with a pointed finger at another person.
http://www.studyenglishtoday.net/lesson7.html
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 08:50:52 PM
Hugo - how would you feel if a few people just accused you of violating teen females' vaginas?   



Lmfao!!!! 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2011, 08:54:30 PM
Not sure what rock BB just came out from, but.... duh

"Pointing at people is like using the prod (see below) and is often considered to be rude and threatening"
http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/parts_body_language/finger_body_language.htm

The worst body language sign is “pointing to something” while talking. Using your index finger to point to some one, something, or just like that. We are humans (duh). Dumb little fellows. While talking to anyone, we try to grasp what is being communicated. But we do this not just via ears, but other sensory organs too. Specially eyes. All of a sudden the communicator points to something, most of us look there. Or worst he points us while talking “You, are the one I was looking for”. Quite a motivating statement but not a very positive feeling with the pointing gesture. In most of the cases we point with the index finger. This is like piercing a nail. The recipient unconsciously, even though for a fraction of second, gets distracted. He concentrates on the finger point, not on you, nor your message. The extreme of this gesture is when someone is reminded of his mistake, reprimanded or provoked. One finger pointing and Bang ! Starts the fight.
http://bizdharma.com/blog/the-worst-body-language-sign-ever-part-one/

with a pointing fore-finger, he will feel intimidated, as the pointed finger symbolizes a stick beating him into submission. Many fights break out after someone jabs the air with a pointed finger at another person.
http://www.studyenglishtoday.net/lesson7.html


Body language experts only know their shit when they're on OReilly, detailing how Obama's posture while playing golf is 100% proof of having experienced kenyan childbirth.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 08:57:18 PM
Body language experts only know their shit when they're on OReilly, detailing how Obama's posture while playing golf is 100% proof of having experienced kenyan childbirth.


Are you a birther? 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 08, 2011, 08:57:24 PM
Hugo - how would you feel if a few people just accused you of violating teen females' vaginas?   



Lmfao!!!! 
LOL at the way you put it... but he did force this on Texas without going through the normal process so Paul was right to call him out on it.  Very legit thing to raise imo.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 08, 2011, 09:02:08 PM
Are you a birther? 
I'm starting to wonder about that.  That pdf release was funny stuff...
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Freeborn126 on September 09, 2011, 03:59:01 AM
Perry will destroy his own campaign for himself.  He will be like Bachmann, popular for about a month and then fade away.  When it comes down to it, Americans do not want another G.W. Bush.  If Ron Paul had the backing from the media like Romney and Perry have this whole primary would be no contest. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 09, 2011, 05:46:55 AM
Perry:  If you ever publically destroy me again, my State Troopers will...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 09, 2011, 05:48:43 AM
i just can't conceptualize this happened during a commercial.

perry can't control himself.  it's that simple.  he's got anger issues.  putting his hands upon, and squaring up, on an old ass man.

some low-rent shit right there.


Perry got mad when he got called out for the forced HPV vaccaines.  If he becomes the contender, its going to haunt him all throughout the campaign.  

Out of all the contenders, only Ron Paul is the one that actually has his own thought process.  Everyone else is just waving the GOP/Tea Party banner.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 09, 2011, 05:50:36 AM
thats not intensity.   that's bullying.  WTF is wrong with the man.   Will he get in Putin's face and try that?

I believe Perry is probably pretty physically tough for his age, but I imagine Vlad P could beat the piss out of him...  :o
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 09, 2011, 05:54:29 AM
perhaps the baby seal was a drain upon the resources that adult seals had worked to gather.

Classic Beach Bum!!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: garebear on September 09, 2011, 05:57:00 AM
I believe Perry is probably pretty physically tough for his age, but I imagine Vlad P could beat the piss out of him...  :o
All drugs.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 09, 2011, 05:57:48 AM
All drugs.

lol
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: blacken700 on September 09, 2011, 06:36:40 AM
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.mediaite.com/online/apoplectic-ron-paul-fans-allege-rick-perry-assault-during-debate-commercial-break/&sa=U&ei=JBVqTpHqLpCugQfozvH5BQ&ved=0CBcQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNEmtsqL-mKYmeVV8C3EnWCTeU7-pA
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: dario73 on September 09, 2011, 06:54:13 AM
Geez, repubs, please select a candidate who can go 2 hours without punching an old man, mmmkay?

Did he punch him? Calm down, Gloria. Stop exaggerating.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 09, 2011, 06:55:01 AM
Did he punch him? Calm down, Gloria. Stop exaggerating.

if cool and sensible Jon Huntsman hadn't stepped in, who knows.

Thank goodness perry didn't have a chance to throttle king paul.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 09, 2011, 06:57:33 AM
if cool and sensible Jon Huntsman hadn't stepped in, who knows.

Thank goodness perry didn't have a chance to throttle king paul.

Post of the day!   ;D
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: dario73 on September 09, 2011, 07:17:29 AM
if cool and sensible Jon Huntsman hadn't stepped in, who knows.

Thank goodness perry didn't have a chance to throttle king paul.
LOL!!!! Please.

Please look into that crystal ball of yours and give us the next mega millions winning numbers.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 09, 2011, 07:22:03 AM
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.mediaite.com/online/apoplectic-ron-paul-fans-allege-rick-perry-assault-during-debate-commercial-break/&sa=U&ei=JBVqTpHqLpCugQfozvH5BQ&ved=0CBcQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNEmtsqL-mKYmeVV8C3EnWCTeU7-pA

Makes me wonder if they were at Paul's podium or Huntsmans podium. The accepted story from the pictures is that Perry forced Paul from his podium and Huntsman had to seperate them. COuld it have been they met at Huntsmans podium for the exchange and Huntsman returned because the break was about over?

I'm with Beach... I've seen photos of things that looked to be one way, but when the facts came out, turned out to be nothing like what the picture appeared to be. Timing is everything. Having said that, I agree it looks bad, wouldn't surprise me if it was how it went down, but out of fairness I couldn't conclude on the pictures alone. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2011, 07:27:41 AM
Makes me wonder if they were at Paul's podium or Huntsmans podium. The accepted story from the pictures is that Perry forced Paul from his podium and Huntsman had to seperate them. COuld it have been they met at Huntsmans podium for the exchange and Huntsman returned because the break was about over?

I'm with Beach... I've seen photos of things that looked to be one way, but when the facts came out, turned out to be nothing like what the picture appeared to be. Timing is everything. Having said that, I agree it looks bad, wouldn't surprise me if it was how it went down, but out of fairness I couldn't conclude on the pictures alone. 

Rand said last night it was the opposite of what it looked like. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 09, 2011, 07:44:15 AM
Rand said last night it was the opposite of what it looked like. 

the Pauls will downplay it, of course.  They're tough.  They don't play the victim card like Newt or Hilary would.

The best thing they can say is NOTHING.  Let perry's rage continue.  We're 40 minutes into debate #1 and he was PISSED.  The other candidates now know EXACTLY what to hit, to piss him off and to point out the shady ass shots he forced on people - and profited from (which hasn't even come up in debates yet).

RP is smart to just say nothing and downplay it.  He's tough, he's no whiny victim like many in the GOP crying all day about how unfair the media treats them.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 09, 2011, 08:05:13 AM
the Pauls will downplay it, of course.  They're tough.  They don't play the victim card like Newt or Hilary would.

The best thing they can say is NOTHING.  Let perry's rage continue.  We're 40 minutes into debate #1 and he was PISSED.  The other candidates now know EXACTLY what to hit, to piss him off and to point out the shady ass shots he forced on people - and profited from (which hasn't even come up in debates yet).

RP is smart to just say nothing and downplay it.  He's tough, he's no whiny victim like many in the GOP crying all day about how unfair the media treats them.

Kinda weird to say he doesn't even remember the incident while the news everywhere claims it was heated. Time to move on though, as it seems Ron can let it slid so should his supporters.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 09, 2011, 08:08:03 AM
Kinda weird to say he doesn't even remember the incident while the news everywhere claims it was heated. Time to move on though, as it seems Ron can let it slid so should his supporters.

IMO, that is Ron Paul being shrewd. 

The MINUTE he says "but but Perry got in my face, I didn't do anything..."  - He doens't look TOUGH anymore.

He knocked that dirt off his shoulder.  Ron Paul doesn't have time for RiffRaff like the Angry Parry.  You don't see Tom BRady whining about the heckler in the 4th row - you see him with the WIN holding the game ball.

Ron Paul is ABOVE that nonsense.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: James on September 09, 2011, 08:23:18 AM
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 09, 2011, 08:26:12 AM
LOL... RPaul totally downplaying it.   He's above that riffraff.  Love it!

Even weirder for Perry - who had never met Ron Paul - putting his hands on another man!

"I cannot repeat what he was saying to me..."  PERFECT!

Ron Paul, all class.  "I don't even recall that moment, or what he said.  No cross words."

THen he returns to pointing out the dangerous Perry policy.  (To me, the forced vaccinations is most scary).

I'll still vote perry over Obama, but I'd love to see another repub get the nomination.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: kcballer on September 09, 2011, 08:54:44 AM
Perry probably saying don't cross me, or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2011, 10:15:24 AM
Makes me wonder if they were at Paul's podium or Huntsmans podium. The accepted story from the pictures is that Perry forced Paul from his podium and Huntsman had to seperate them. COuld it have been they met at Huntsmans podium for the exchange and Huntsman returned because the break was about over?

I'm with Beach... I've seen photos of things that looked to be one way, but when the facts came out, turned out to be nothing like what the picture appeared to be. Timing is everything. Having said that, I agree it looks bad, wouldn't surprise me if it was how it went down, but out of fairness I couldn't conclude on the pictures alone. 

Smart man.   :)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2011, 10:17:32 AM


Oh that is hilarious.   :)  Ron Paul says it was a friendly exchange. 

Rand Paul says the same thing:  http://freedomslighthouse.net/2011/09/08/sen-rand-paul-rick-perry-and-ron-paul-had-a-friendly-exchange-no-harsh-words-at-all-during-break-at-debate-video-9811/

It does not surprise me that the 911 Troofers who jumped all over this are now claiming Ron Paul is lying about this being a joke.  That is laugh out loud funny.   :)
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 09, 2011, 11:12:39 AM
very wise of RPaul to be a man and downplay it.

people see Perry is full of rage. 
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2011, 11:41:23 AM
Quote
1.  Make Shit Up

Don't know what the fuck you're talking about?  Can't quite keep up with the conversation?  Or maybe you're just completely lost but want to contribute to the board anyway?

Don't worry, just make some shit up. 

It really looks impressive if you throw out some statistics too.  Do you know what the Vice President of Engineering for Cisco makes each year and pays in taxes?  Nope.  But it doesn't matter.  Just claim all rich people only pay 8% in taxes and that everybody else is getting screwed over.  It always looks good when you make shit up while portraying yourself as the underdog.

Do you really know how many people actually need food?  Have you been actively keeping up with abortion statistics in the United States?  Do you really follow oil futures?  Who cares?  Just make a claim and use a high enough percentage to be plausible, but low enough that nobody will probably question. 9 times out of 10, nobody's going to bother checking your bullshit.  If they do, just move to Rules #2-4.


5.  Declare a Conspiracy

So, the President of the United States didn't personally call you up and fill you in on all the details about how the Seals took out Osama bin-Laden.  Nothing to worry about.  Rule #1 and your "sources" claim Osama was on the top floor and the Seals were making "all kinds of noise" on the bottom floor.  Even though you've never participated in a Seal raid, never been raided by Seals, and probably never even met a Seal, you do "know" that if you had been Osama, you would have grabbed your loaded weapon and been completely ready.

Of course, Osama would have reacted in EXACTLY the same manner as you.  You "know" this.  Anybody who would disagree is obviously an idiot.  But that's not how it's reported.  No doubt, you've unearthed yet another conspiracy.

Congratulations!  From your trailer park, you've not only been able to deduce how things "probably" went down, but you can flood the board with "mysterious questions" such as whether or not the President would actually sit "behind" a staffer (you have to expect people to ignore the fact that you've never actually been to a Presidential staff meeting - Rule #1 always applies).    

Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on September 09, 2011, 05:10:50 PM
Pretty admirable of Ron Paul to follow Reagan's mantra... never insult or embarass a fellow republican. 

he *could* have told the world that the jackass perry was trying to be a bully.  Instead, he focused on fixing what's wrong with our country.  No sense directing the conversation to Perry's anger mgmt issues.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 09, 2011, 05:20:10 PM
Perry probably didn't say anything bad but he knew what he was doing with the pointing finger and angry in your face looks.  Before this happened there are other stories of Perry getting in opponents faces with nice words but with a threatening demeanor.  He's not the first person ever to use this kind of intimidation.  Check out Arnold, the guy mastered and bragged about doing this to others.
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Dos Equis on September 11, 2011, 12:30:13 PM
Really funny thread.   :)

Ron Paul Scoffs at Rumor of Debate Rift With Perry
Friday, 09 Sep 2011
By Newsmax Wires

Since Wednesday’s Republican presidential debate, the Internet has been full of rumors that Texas Gov. Rick Perry confronted Rep. Ron Paul, also from Texas, during a commercial break. Paul scoffed at the gossip, The Hill reports.

The rumors stemmed from a Reuters picture showing Perry walking up to Paul's podium, grabbing Paul's arm, and pointing his finger in Paul’s face. But Paul laughed it all off at a campaign event Thursday.

“A picture came out last night, it's on the Internet this morning, with I think the governor of Texas, or something? We had several governors up there, but truth was I never met him before," Paul joked.

"Truth is, I wish it were a much more interesting story. I don't even recall the moment that was occurring, and I don't remember exactly what he said. We didn't have any cross words," Paul added.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Ron-Paul-Debate-Perry/2011/09/09/id/410396
Title: Re: Perry Confronts Ron Paul During Commercial
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 11, 2011, 02:57:52 PM
Perry probably didn't say anything bad but he knew what he was doing with the pointing finger and angry in your face looks.  Before this happened there are other stories of Perry getting in opponents faces with nice words but with a threatening demeanor.  He's not the first person ever to use this kind of intimidation.  Check out Arnold, the guy mastered and bragged about doing this to others.