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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2011, 02:20:03 PM
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
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I don't believe you.
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
So you admit you know nothing about training.
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So you admit you know nothing about training.
Its a waste of time. For instance, if I were doing chest and just finished with Bench Press, why would anyone waste the time "Warming-up" for Incline or any other chest exercise.
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So you admit you know nothing about training.
No need for TA to warm-up because he's all lightweight.
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Its a waste of time. For instance, if I were doing chest and just finished with Bench Press, why would anyone waste the time "Warming-up" for Incline or any other chest exercise.
What about before those bench press sets?
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No need for TA to warm-up because he's all lightweight.
No, I train heavy.
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What about before those bench press sets?
Not really. I immediately start with 225-240 as my first set.
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i always have my girl warm me up with a blowjob before i start pounding away at the pussy
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Not really. I immediately start with 225-240 as my first set.
Your reply makes my elbows hurt.
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Your reply makes my elbows hurt.
I have never had an injury or anything like tendinitis ever.
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I have never had an injury or anything like tendinitis ever.
You must have bionic tendons and such.
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Warm-ups are as much about setting the weight mentally as warming up the joints. It's pretty tough to just walk in off the street and start squatting 300 or 400 lbs the first set and not have it feel extremely heavy.
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Not really. I immediately start with 225-240 as my first set.
haha yeah ok
::)
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
I do a couple....just to get the blood flowing. :o
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It depends on the definition of warm up sets. When I train, sometimes i like to go Yates style. Ex: First warm up set on bench (and it doesnt have to be on the first exercise), 145, then 225, and during these sets, im ensuring to use strict form and mind muscle connection and just gauging how everything feels. Final set i up the weight to 365 or more for one all out set balls to wall. Training like this you need a spotter because the last set should be heavy enough to where you should only br able to get at most 8 reps.
Anywho, like I said it depends on how it is defined.
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Warm-ups are as much about setting the weight mentally as warming up the joints. It's pretty tough to just walk in off the street and start squatting 300 or 400 lbs the first set and not have it feel extremely heavy.
X2!!
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Its a waste of time. For instance, if I were doing chest and just finished with Bench Press, why would anyone waste the time "Warming-up" for Incline or any other chest exercise.
I do this but don't really consider it a warmup set. I treat it as getting in the groove and the correct setup for whatever exercise I'm doing next.
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I have been also incorporating the Adonis 100 Principle into my workouts.
It works like this:
After 2-3 exercises of 4 sets each of Heavy weight, I will return to an exercise I previously performed (one of the two to three) and drop to a weight where I can just get 10 reps. I do that weight until I reach 25 reps. Then I lower the weight a bit and do another 25 reps, however many sets it takes. Drop the weight again and go for 25 reps and a final drop in weight for another 25 Reps.
It usually takes a lot of sets to get to 100. Do not bother counting sets, 100 rep total is the goal. I do this for each body part. You will get an incredible pump like no other and its kind of satisfying to complete.
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agreed, but I'm a natural, wtf do I need to warm up to move 25 lb for lol
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i always have my girl warm me up with a blowjob before i start pounding away at the pussy
i prefer something i call the 'hotdog method'
i place my dick between her cheeks (in the fashion of a hotdog on a bun) and have her gently gyrate. guaranteed to give a diamond hard erection.
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I have never had an injury or anything like tendinitis ever.
;D
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It depends on the definition of warm up sets. When I train, sometimes i like to go Yates style. Ex: First warm up set on bench (and it doesnt have to be on the first exercise), 145, then 225, and during these sets, im ensuring to use strict form and mind muscle connection and just gauging how everything feels. Final set i up the weight to 365 or more for one all out set balls to wall. Training like this you need a spotter because the last set should be heavy enough to where you should only br able to get at most 8 reps.
Anywho, like I said it depends on how it is defined.
You are a fat pig who looks to have never seen a gym in his life, no one cares what you think about training
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You are a fat pig who looks to have never seen a gym in his life, no one cares what you think about training
Post a pic stud
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
so they are pointless yet you never tried one? you are kind of close-minded aren't you?
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you dont do it to warm up persay, you do it to get your body use to the range of motion. Warmup sets should be done prior to begining your workout.
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Honestly... i think the older you get.. the more you have to warm-up... when i was in my teens, i would strap on the football pads and helmet and go full speed in the bull ring... in my 20's never warmed up while hitting the weights... now in my early 30's i feel the need to start off light my 1st and 2nd set before adding the weights... im sure in my 40's ill be warming up for 20min on a cardio machine before the weights ... damn aging sucks
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When you are cranking out reps on the Squat with 495 lbs of course you need a warm up. Even if a guy can squat 600 lbs in his garage gym I doubt he could even do 315 lbs right after getting out of bed without serious risk for injury. But if you are Apenis where you're doing squats with just the bar or maybe a dime on each side on the heavy days then perhaps a warm up is not necessary.
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I don't know a single serious athelete that does not do warm up sets first. If you understand the human body you definately will do warm up sets.
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question for all getbiggers:
when you say you do four sets of an exercise, do you mean four sets at the same weight (sets across), or four sets of progressively increasing weight?
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When you are cranking out reps on the Squat with 495 lbs of course you need a warm up. Even if a guy can squat 600 lbs in his garage gym I doubt he could even do 315 lbs right after getting out of bed without serious risk for injury. But if you are Apenis where you're doing squats with just the bar or maybe a dime on each side on the heavy days then perhaps a warm up is not necessary.
* I don`t generally do warmups.
*When I do squats, I do a set of 135 for 20 before my first Real set.
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question for all getbiggers:
when you say you do four sets of an exercise, do you mean four sets at the same weight (sets across), or four sets of progressively increasing weight?
i always Pyramid up... or down, sometimes do supersets or dropped sets whatever feels good at the time
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You are a fat pig who looks to have never seen a gym in his life, no one cares what you think about training
hahahahhhahah
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
fucking nonsense. Certainly not pointless.
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I warm up on the bench press 135x10 225x10 265x5 315x5 then work sets with 330.
I would do teh odd lighter set on inclines, my next exercise to feel teh weight and get used to the meovement. Plus its still weight I am moving so it will do something.
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I warm up on the bench press 135x10 225x10 265x5 315x5 then work sets with 330.
I would do teh odd lighter set on inclines, my next exercise to feel teh weight and get used to the meovement. Plus its still weight I am moving so it will do something.
how many sets do you do with 330?
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3 then a drop set with 315.
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Honestly... i think the older you get.. the more you have to warm-up... when i was in my teens, i would strap on the football pads and helmet and go full speed in the bull ring... in my 20's never warmed up while hitting the weights... now in my early 30's i feel the need to start off light my 1st and 2nd set before adding the weights... im sure in my 40's ill be warming up for 20min on a cardio machine before the weights ... damn aging sucks
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This is why bodybuilding training will never evolve because the training is based on ZERO science...good God this is a travisty!
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coach you misspelled "travesty" in your rant about "science"
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We pretty much know all there is about building muscle etc.
Science is thr drug which is evolving but you can only pack so much size on a frame before it looks a mess.
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Good thing all my articles are spell checked. Didn't realice spelling was a pre-requisite on here.
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It isn't, it's just that science is a rigorous and exhausting practice, so you'd think someone with a scientific mind might be a meticulous person in general...
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i dont technically do any warm up sets but i start with a weight i can rep 10-15 times and do two or three sets with it. then i bump to a weight i can do 5-10 times and do 2 sets.
if i was going to attempt a single double or triple i would go in and put on about 75% of the intended weight and do one set of 1-3 reps with it, just to get the muscle into the heavy lifting zone.
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i dont technically do any warm up sets but i start with a weight i can rep 10-15 times and do two or three sets with it. then i bump to a weight i can do 5-10 times and do 2 sets.
if i was going to attempt a single double or triple i would go in and put on about 75% of the intended weight and do one set of 1-3 reps with it, just to get the muscle into the heavy lifting zone.
And we have a winner.
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i dont technically do any warm up sets but i start with a weight i can rep 10-15 times and do two or three sets with it. then i bump to a weight i can do 5-10 times and do 2 sets.
if i was going to attempt a single double or triple i would go in and put on about 75% of the intended weight and do one set of 1-3 reps with it, just to get the muscle into the heavy lifting zone.
Good stuff, I generally work in the 1-3 rep bracket, and my lay out is similar.
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this guy.
Alex, how's the dating going these days?
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Adonis, I want to train with you.
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Adonis, I want to train with you.
Where are you located?
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I have to warm up. First exercise that is. When I bench I start with 135 and do two sets of 12 reps. I do a little stretching to. I was benching the other day and had 265 on. One of the younger personal trainers was giving me a spot. When I got done with the set he wanted to try the weight completely cold. He couldn't even get it for one. I could tell by his frame and build he would have no problem with that weight if he was properly warmed up.
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
and pizza is "health food", "one of the best things you can eat".... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Honestly... i think the older you get.. the more you have to warm-up... when i was in my teens, i would strap on the football pads and helmet and go full speed in the bull ring... in my 20's never warmed up while hitting the weights... now in my early 30's i feel the need to start off light my 1st and 2nd set before adding the weights... im sure in my 40's ill be warming up for 20min on a cardio machine before the weights ... damn aging sucks
This. I've had two friends tear pecs not warming up. To not do it, just because you haven't been injured *yet*, doesn't mean they shouldn't be done. Yea you can cross the street without looking and not get hit, but eventually you're going to take a dirt nap.
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and pizza is "health food", "one of the best things you can eat".... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Shall I post the studies that link Pizza to warding off Various Cancers, increasing longevity and not clogging arteries?
I take it you have never made your own pizza or read any of these studies? Tell me why you believe Pizza to be evil (All evidence points to the contrary)? What ingredients specifically do you fear?
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Shall I post the studies that link Pizza to warding off Various Cancers, increasing longevity and not clogging arteries?
I take it you have never made your own pizza or read any of these studies? Tell me why you believe Pizza to be evil (All evidence points to the contrary)? What ingredients specifically do you fear?
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Yes please, link me the studies to lycopen, olive oil and other stuff now... ::) ::) ::)
I am sure there is no other way to get these benefits as form pizza.
Pizza has lots of saturated fatty acids and the gluten and wheat flour isn't healthy as well.
I am aware it is nowhere as bad as some people want you to believe, but i would not exactly call it a health food. I have made my own pizza many times, btw.
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I wrote a small article on warm-ups. I'll post later (not that it will matter).
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Not only do warm ups prevent injuries, but also does it get your CNS used to a certain movement again, with the result that you're a little bit stronger when properly warmed up vs trying big weights instantly.
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I wrote a small article on warm-ups. I'll post later (not that it will matter).
It just doesn`t make any sense to "Warm-up" for every exercise. Take Biceps, Why would you need to warm-up for any sort of bicep work? ???
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Warm up sets are essential, esp. if you're lifting fairly heavy poundages. How many you do depends on your preference.
If it's back day, my first exercise is deadlifts and there's no way I'd just load up the bar to 500+ pounds and lift it without warming up before. WU gets the blood flowing and you get a feel of how your strength levels are that day, not to mention it will also let you see if any injuries you have are gonna be an issue when you do your max set.
Adonis, I do see some guys jump into their main set straightaway, so I guess it works for some.
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I only warm up on the first exercise Im going to do.
No need for useless "warm-ups" on the rest...
doesnt mean for example I go straight from flat bench to incline and load plates for 4 crappy reps lol..
I pyramid the weight.
Why do some guys overcomplicate things is beyond me.
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I only warm up on the first exercise Im going to do.
No need for useless "warm-ups" on the rest...
Ditto, you don't need to do them for every exercise, just in the beginning.
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I only warm up on the first exercise Im going to do.
No need for useless "warm-ups" on the rest...
doesnt mean for example I go straight from flat bench to incline and load plates for 4 crappy reps lol..
I pyramid the weight.
Why do some guys overcomplicate things is beyond me.
Yea that's pretty much the definition of warming up. No need to warm up on subsequent exercises after you've already done working sets for a muscle group.
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Warming up Biceps=Pointless
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i dont technically do any warm up sets but i start with a weight i can rep 10-15 times and do two or three sets with it. then i bump to a weight i can do 5-10 times and do 2 sets.
if i was going to attempt a single double or triple i would go in and put on about 75% of the intended weight and do one set of 1-3 reps with it, just to get the muscle into the heavy lifting zone.
what you just described in the first paragraph would be called a warm-up.
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Warming up Biceps=Pointless
You still deadlift heavy? Guessing you must do over 600 lb now.
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We warm up for 15-25 min before we even touch a weight.
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We warm up for 15-25 min before we even touch a weight.
Im pretty sure you like to "warm up" your guys for 15-25 mins before the workouts.
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Im pretty sure you like to "warm up" your guys for 15-25 mins before the workouts.
Stick to learning from your magazine articles in Flex about training with oiled up men in thongs.....you can all go fuck yourselves. I sincerely mean that.
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
how weak are you?
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We warm up for 15-25 min before we even touch a weight.
Why so long, Coach?
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For many years, I didn't bother with warming up before going into my routine. Nowadays, I warm up before and heavy lifting. I have found that this actually helps me to lift heavier weights in my work sets.
Some muscle groups I warm up more than others. For example, I warm up delts with a couple of high rep, low weight front and side delt raises. I started doing this because I was having a lot of pain in my left shoulder which inhibited my lifting. Before bench pressing, I warm up by doing lighter weight incline bench dumbbell presses. When working quads, I warm up by doing leg extensions prior to leg presses and hack squats. I never have any knee problems. Most warm up sets are at least 12 repetitions. For many exercises I'll do 12, 10, 8 and 8, adding weight with each set. When the weight is light, I concentrate on using the best form I possibly can and a very even pace....no jerking.
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You still deadlift heavy? Guessing you must do over 600 lb now.
No, I still do in the 500s every now and then. I haven`t actively pursued trying to get it higher. I may be able to get close if I did a Sumo Style, but I NEVER have done it despite it being much easier. I always do a narrower stance with hands in line with my legs, kind of a totally natural stance.
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I wrote a small article on warm-ups. I'll post later (not that it will matter).
Can you post the article? :)
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i like to warm up by doing 225 on deads for 100 reps
i would post a vid but someone stole my camera :'(
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Stick to learning from your magazine articles in Flex about training with oiled up men in thongs.....you can all go fuck yourselves. I sincerely mean that.
I was kidding.
Do you also recommend stretching (along with warming up) the bodypart before training it?
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I like TA's way of thinking. When you got lots of experience you know what is necessary and what's not. When you're training natural there are so many ways to waste time in the gym.
I like to do warm-up sets for certain bodyparts(mainly lower-back and legs) and I find it helpful to do a couple of sets with 135 on a bench. Helps you to find the perfect rom and balance.
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I like TA's way of thinking. When you got lots of experience you know what is necessary and what's not. When you're training natural there are so many ways to waste time in the gym.
I like to do warm-up sets for certain bodyparts(mainly lower-back and legs) and I find it helpful to do a couple of sets with 135 on a bench. Helps you to find the perfect rom and balance.
pulling 5 plates (like he says he does) is dumb as fuck without a warmup, which i know he isn't stupid enough to do, so i don't even see the point of making this thread
my sets are usually 135-225-315-405, high reps, lower, then lower, 405 for maybe a single or double, then 495-525x5-6 for deadlifts. all that counts is that last set but w/out the warmups i couldn't touch that last set.
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i didnt warm up enough on squats yesterday and injured my leg :-\
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
And what you are trying to prove by that statement? That you are complete idiot? You know this because you haven't done one single rep for warm up? Only thing which you can prove by that statement, is that you don't know shit about training, which suits well together with your "calorie is calorie"- theory.
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Warming up Biceps=Pointless
You = clueless
Flexor exercises help with elbow (joint) health. Not "tricep extensions" like most do. You're not actually warming up the bicep but rather the elbow. Hope this helps
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
Damn, you are a hardcore badass, my friend ::) ::) ::)
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You = clueless
Flexor exercises help with elbow (joint) health. Not "tricep extensions" like most do. You're not actually warming up the bicep but rather the elbow. Hope this helps
I agree with my good friend ,The Coach .
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I agree with my good friend ,The Coach .
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::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Yes please, link me the studies to lycopen, olive oil and other stuff now... ::) ::) ::)
I am sure there is no other way to get these benefits as form pizza.
Pizza has lots of saturated fatty acids and the gluten and wheat flour isn't healthy as well.
I am aware it is nowhere as bad as some people want you to believe, but i would not exactly call it a health food. I have made my own pizza many times, btw.
Complete utter bullshit.
Gluten is not bad at all, unless you're allergic to it. Wheat flour has plenty of nutrients.
I don't know where you guys come up with this shit. ::)
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You = clueless
Flexor exercises help with elbow (joint) health. Not "tricep extensions" like most do. You're not actually warming up the bicep but rather the elbow. Hope this helps
This might be one of the most severe ( yet effortless) thrashings Adam has ever received on getting coached up on weight training and it is dished out by none other then The COACH!
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Complete utter bullshit.
Gluten is not bad at all, unless you're allergic to it. Wheat flour has plenty of nutrients.
I don't know where you guys come up with this shit. ::)
Actually, gluten is a terrific source of protein....
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We warm up for 15-25 min before we even touch a weight.
Dynamic warm up, I assume?
I've found a small amount of plyo help me. If I was benching, two sets of 5 reps of a plyo push up.etc.... Is that something you use, or is it bunk?
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No, I train heavy.
Yeah, but your Fugly, so no-one gives a shit what you think.
You have one of the most simian, faces I have seen.
Do you have a lot of body-hair naturally??
Just curious ???
PT
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Dynamic warm up, I assume?
I've found a small amount of plyo help me. If I was benching, two sets of 5 reps of a plyo push up.etc.... Is that something you use, or is it bunk?
Yes, along with mobility and active stretch and activation. When I warm up shoulders I won't do anything as dynamic as a plyo push up but rather YTWL's w/external rotation, wall slides and Scap retractions. These work especially well for older people who still train heavy.
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This might be one of the most severe ( yet effortless) thrashings Adam has ever received on getting coached up on weight training and it is dished out by none other then The COACH!
Thanks. You're about the only one on here that I would take training advise from. Dyslexic is good as well.
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Complete utter bullshit.
Gluten is not bad at all, unless you're allergic to it. Wheat flour has plenty of nutrients.
I don't know where you guys come up with this shit. ::)
Junk food = hydroginated fat (more often than not).
Good luck with that when lifting heavy......
PT
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Actually, gluten is a terrific source of protein....
Please explain why
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Yes, along with mobility and active stretch and activation. When I warm up shoulders I won't do anything as dynamic as a plyo push up but rather YTWL's w/external rotation, wall slides and Scap retractions. These work especially well for older people who still train heavy.
Thanks Coach. Will do.
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Junk food = hydroginated fat (more often than not).
Good luck with that when lifting heavy......
PT
True, when ever you see the word "hydrogenated" it's literally means it's about one molecule away from being plastic.
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Junk food = hydroginated fat (more often than not).
Good luck with that when lifting heavy......
PT
Not all pizza is "junk".
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
Yes, Yates believed as you did and he eventually tore 15 muscles.
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what you just described in the first paragraph would be called a warm-up.
not really, those are working sets, they just function as a "warm up" for the heavier sets.
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Complete utter bullshit.
Gluten is not bad at all, unless you're allergic to it. Wheat flour has plenty of nutrients.
I don't know where you guys come up with this shit. ::)
nah us humans really arent supposed to be eating concentrated sources of carbohydrates all the time, and especially not from grains.
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Not all pizza is "junk".
Where are you eating, Dominos or the Organic / stone ground flour, pizza parlour $60 for a 12inch pizza.
I would rather have Brown rice & meat.
PT
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Seems like most of you either suffer from Rickety Bones or have caught the Rheumatism.
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Seems like most of you either suffer from Rickety Bones or have caught the Rheumatism.
Forts Syndrome :
An unhealthy obsession with the past and a refusal to live in the present. Symptoms include constant reminiscing about stories, people or events from college despite graduation having taken place in a different century than the one we now live in.
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Forts Syndrome :
An unhealthy obsession with the past and a refusal to live in the present. Symptoms include constant reminiscing about stories, people or events from college despite graduation having taken place in a different century than the one we now live in.
I like that. Now check this out.
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;)
In honor of September 10th, 1862. Never forget Stonewall Jackson.
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nah us humans really arent supposed to be eating concentrated sources of carbohydrates all the time, and especially not from grains.
Humans aren`t supposed to wear eyeglasses either. :-\
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Please explain why
As seitan, it's almost 100% protein plus some fiber, hardly carbs and no fats. You can prepare it to taste like chicken or something. I'm amazed it's being eaten so little by bodybuilders...
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Not really. I immediately start with 225-240 as my first set.
Haha....what's funny is that's what most long time trainers do, only it IS considered a warm-up.
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As seitan, it's almost 100% protein plus some fiber, hardly carbs and no fats. You can prepare it to taste like chicken or something. I'm amazed it's being eaten so little by bodybuilders...
I've never heard of seitan, but I see it has an interesting Wiki lemma.
In order to consume complete proteins from vegetable sources, it requires more knowledge about which foods & amounts to combine. With animal sources it's much more easy. This and the taste of veg foods are prob the main reasons that BB'ers don't make that switch. However, this could change in the near future, since the prices of animal protein sources are rising.
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Humans aren`t supposed to wear eyeglasses either. :-\
That is true, but do you know why they do? When mankind was young, nature get rid of the weak individuals by killing them as soon as possible. When you lost your eyesight, you can't hunt and you die without food. This would be great in our time also, because nature would kill all retarded, including you. In the ages of the cave mans, you would be dead already because you are too stupid to survive. There wouldn't be any of those notes which your mom left to you: "Remember, my son: inhale, blow out, inhale ..." ;D
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Not really. I immediately start with 225-240 as my first set.
What would your typical reps be for each set, and how many sets?
NN
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And pointless. I don`t think I have ever done a single one ever.
I see that you don't use them, but there is quite a bit of research that shows reduced injury risk with proper warm ups.
Besides, there is also evidence showing that one warm up set enhances performance on a subsequent work set. This may be more relevant for powerlifters before a near max one rep lift...
NN
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Fuck not warming up and getting muscle tears and ruining my aesthetics.
If you lift heavy at all you are going to want to hit a few lighter sets first.
I dont warm up for cardio though, the need to stretch prior to cardio is a myth.