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Title: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2011, 03:45:46 AM
The left is always well informed and believes in "science".


Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 03:50:41 AM
The left is always well informed and believes in "science".




Hitler was a Catholic. What do liberals have to do with genocidal dictators? ??? I don't agree with the left on a lot of stuff but your comparison of the left to genocidal dictators is farcical.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: garebear on September 11, 2011, 04:21:01 AM
Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: garebear on September 11, 2011, 04:21:46 AM
Whorewell, you are weak and stupid.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2011, 04:26:19 AM
For being such an allegedly educated and learned individual, you really do have an interesting and remarkably inaccurate interpretation of history. Please show me evidence of Hitler being a Catholic.

Hitler was an atheist. The only objectively indisputable evidence of his inclination toward any sense of a higher power  was based in the occult.


Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2011, 04:29:18 AM
That quote proves nothing.

Gare, put away your assless chaps. I think the straight members in your barracks need some time with their significant others so they can undo the damage you've done to their psyches. The repeal of DADT isn't a license to rape every male officer you come into contact with.

Hope this helps.   
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 04:29:34 AM
For being such an allegedly educated and learned individual, you really do have an interesting and remarkably inaccurate interpretation of history. Please show me evidence of Hitler being a Catholic.

Hitler was an atheist. The only objectively indisputable evidence of his inclination toward any sense of a higher power  was based in the occult.




Look at his own words, he describes humself as a Catholic.

Is Bernie Sanders on par with Stalin or Mao? and if so, what has he done to put him on the same level?
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: outby43 on September 11, 2011, 04:37:58 AM
Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..


Insert Muslim instead of Jew and you have a an Ultra Right wing Republican
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 04:46:13 AM
Insert Muslim instead of Jew and you have a an Ultra Right wing Republican

That's not even the issue. I don't agree with the left ton at least 50% of the issues but equating Bernie Sanders or progressives with Mao or Stalin is just insane. But it's the typical left/right exchange, each one being hyperbolic and sensatonalistic. You know why we will never return to the Constitution? because of this left/right bullshit that never stops, each one blaming the other, well I blame both.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2011, 04:51:38 AM
That's not even the issue. I don't agree with the left ton at least 50% of the issues but equating Bernie Sanders or progressives with Mao or Stalin is just insane. But it's the typical left/right exchange, each one being hyperbolic and sensatonalistic. You know why we will never return to the constitution? because of this left/right bullshit that never stops, each one blaming the other, well I blame both.

Decide-- you fancy yourself an intellectual?

Have you read Mein Kampf?

Do you know anything about the roots of Nazism?

Hitler considered Christianity to be the single greatest threat to his quest for world domination. He had German clergyman rounded up and killed. He had bibles replaced with Mein Kampf. Just because he was allegedly raised as a christian ( his mother was a jew) doesn't mean he was actually a christian.

Hitler did not believe in any higher power except the occult.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 04:55:36 AM
Decide-- you fancy yourself an intellectual?

Have you read Mein Kampf?

Do you know anything about the roots of Nazism?

Hitler considered Christianity to be the single greatest threat to his quest for world domination. He had German clergyman rounded up and killed. He had bibles replaced with Mein Kampf. Just because he was allegedly raised as a christian ( his mother was a jew) doesn't mean he was actually a christian.

Hitler did not believe in any higher power except the occult.

I don't fancy myself anything. The Hitler issue is debatable. I know plenty about the roots of Nazism and it has nothing to do with atheism.

Can you defend your analogy of the left with genocidal, megalomaniacal dictators of the 20th century?
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2011, 04:56:32 AM
I don't fancy myself anything. The Hitler issue is debatable. I know plenty about the roots of Nazism and it has nothing to do with atheism.

Can you defend your analogy of the left with genocidal, megalomaniacal dictators of the 20th century?


Yes. All of them happened to be leftists.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 04:57:56 AM
Yes. All of them happened to be leftists.

So Bernie Sanders is the same as Mao and Stalin? OK.... :-\
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2011, 05:00:32 AM
So Bernie Sanders is the same as Mao and Stalin? OK.... :-\

Never said that at all. Not even remotely.

Nice try though.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 05:07:04 AM
Never said that at all. Not even remotely.

Nice try though.

You claimed the left was well informed about science (sarcasm) and then post a video about mass murdering dictators and you want to claim that you were not trying to draw an analogy, sorry not buying it.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 11, 2011, 05:09:03 AM
The left does not give a damn about science.  They try to molest science as a way to justify the disgusting agenda it has always pursued.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 05:11:20 AM
The left does not give a damn about science.  They try to molest science as a way to justify the disgusting agenda it has always pursued.

Everything is the left's fault...right. I guess the minute a Republican is elected the country will be on its way to prosperity again.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2011, 05:12:46 AM
You claimed the left was well informed about science (sarcasm) and then post a video about mass murdering dictators and you want to claim that you were not trying to draw an analogy, sorry not buying it.

What the fuck does Bernie Sanders have to do with Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot?

Outside of being of the same ideological slant, absolutely nothing.

Nice job of projecting your own delusional, misinformed and idiotic views on political matters into a convo that had nothing to do with you.  ::)
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: garebear on September 11, 2011, 05:14:44 AM
Insert Muslim instead of Jew and you have a an Ultra Right wing Republican
QFT
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 05:15:13 AM
What the fuck does Bernie Sanders have to do with Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot?

Outside of being of the same ideological slant, absolutely nothing.

Nice job of projecting your own delusional, misinformed and idiotic views on political matters into a convo that had nothing to do with you.  ::)

What was the point of linking the left to a video with 20th century dictators then?
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 11, 2011, 05:16:07 AM
I'm thinking specifically of global warming and climate change. 

Do you really think that the far left would stop pursing its insane agenda once its confirmed that solar activity is the main driver, not human activity?   
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 05:18:21 AM
I'm thinking specifically of global warming and climate change. 

Do you really think that the far left would stop pursing its insane agenda once its confirmed that solar activity is the main driver, not human activity?   

That is one issue. The far right also has its adovocates that do similar things.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: garebear on September 11, 2011, 05:20:12 AM
I'm thinking specifically of global warming and climate change. 

Do you really think that the far left would stop pursing its insane agenda once its confirmed that solar activity is the main driver, not human activity?   
Yes, when 97 percent of the climate scientists of the planet Earth reverse their decision and agree with you, the left will reconsider. You now have 3 percent agreeing with you. Oh, and Fox News and Rush Limbaugh who, admittedly, spend millions on independent research.

Quit pulling things out of your ass already.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: George Whorewell on September 11, 2011, 08:37:16 AM
Yes, when 97 percent of the climate scientists of the planet Earth reverse their decision and agree with you, the left will reconsider. You now have 3 percent agreeing with you. Oh, and Fox News and Rush Limbaugh who, admittedly, spend millions on independent research.

Quit pulling things out of your ass already.

I feel like your intellectual shortcomings are in lockstep with the swindler in chief--  Are you incredibly naive or just an ignorant and misinformed nitwit who sticks his fingers in his ears and closes his eyes when the latest version of the current truth doesn't jive with his ideological makeup?

There have been numerous instances which demonstrate irrefutably that "climate change" has been en exaggerated hoax from day one. For more than 10 years, there has been a sickening collusion on junk science being passed off as fact to the public  between the Left's ecoterrorist lobby and scientific community. Leaked emails and studies+ whistle blowers have confirmed that the whole campaign has nothing more than a scare tactic laden farce designed to harm American industry.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Straw Man on September 11, 2011, 08:47:54 AM
same old tired nonsense

Stalin, Hitler (choose your dictator) sought to destroy any group that would be a challenge to the authority of the state

Look at Communist China today and you'll see the same thing

To conflate a dictator trying to wipe out all potential challenges to their authority to "atheism" in general is just the excuse of someone who has run out of arguments

Hasn't this argument been hashed out 100 times on this board already
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Fury on September 11, 2011, 08:54:45 AM
Decide-- you fancy yourself an intellectual?

Have you read Mein Kampf?

Do you know anything about the roots of Nazism?

Hitler considered Christianity to be the single greatest threat to his quest for world domination. He had German clergyman rounded up and killed. He had bibles replaced with Mein Kampf. Just because he was allegedly raised as a christian ( his mother was a jew) doesn't mean he was actually a christian.

Hitler did not believe in any higher power except the occult.

Deicide an intellectual? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. One of the funniest jokes I've ever read. He's a career student that studies languages. An intellectual. LOL.

Hitler despised Christianity and the only religion he ever praised was, surprise, surprise, Islam. He loved its militaristic and totalitarian nature and wished that it was Islam that took root in Europe.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: garebear on September 11, 2011, 09:35:07 AM
Deicide an intellectual? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. One of the funniest jokes I've ever read. He's a career student that studies languages. An intellectual. LOL.

Hitler despised Christianity and the only religion he ever praised was, surprise, surprise, Islam. He loved its militaristic and totalitarian nature and wished that it was Islam that took root in Europe.
You're right. Christians have been so great for the world.

There's just no evidence against it.

As per intellectuals, you're about as far off the mark as it gets. I'm surprised you can conjugate verbs, most of those that hold your positions cannot. Must be lonely for you.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 11, 2011, 09:40:37 AM
You're right. Christians have been so great for the world.

There's just no evidence against it.

As per intellectuals, you're about as far off the mark as it gets. I'm surprised you can conjugate verbs, most of those that hold your positions cannot. Must be lonely for you.

It is a historical fact that Christianity helped to engender the antisemitism in Germany that eventually led to the Holocaust there. Centuries of antisemitism propagated in no small part by the Church were a large part of what gave rise to what happened. There were other causes of course but that was one of them.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: loco on September 12, 2011, 05:34:41 AM
Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.




"The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay."
Joseph Goebbels(one of Hitler's closest associates and most devout followers), The Holy Reich by Richard Steigmann-Gall, p. 253

“You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
Adolf Hitler as reported by Albert Speer(Hitler's chief architect before becoming his Minister for Armaments during the war), The Holy Reich by Richard Steigmann-Gall, p. 252-253

On Martin Bormann, Head of the Party Chancellery and private secretary of the Fuhrer
"Nazism, based as it was on a 'scientific' world-view, was completely incompatible with Christianity whose influence was regarded by Bormann as a serious obstacle to totalitarian rule"
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/bormann.html
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 12, 2011, 05:40:33 AM

"The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay."
Joseph Goebbels(one of Hitler's closest associates and most devout followers), The Holy Reich by Richard Steigmann-Gall, p. 253

“You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
Adolf Hitler as reported by Albert Speer(Hitler's chief architect before becoming his Minister for Armaments during the war), The Holy Reich by Richard Steigmann-Gall, p. 252-253

On Martin Bormann, Head of the Party Chancellery and private secretary of the Fuhrer
"Nazism, based as it was on a 'scientific' world-view, was completely incompatible with Christianity whose influence was regarded by Bormann as a serious obstacle to totalitarian rule"
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/bormann.html

Do you deny that the Church fomented antisemitism over the course of centuries?
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 12, 2011, 05:46:01 AM
More leftist strawmen and lies shot to shit. 

Won't stop them from regurgitating them again.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: loco on September 12, 2011, 05:50:26 AM
Do you deny that the Church fomented antisemitism over the course of centuries?

The Roman Catholic church, and later even some reformers too?  Sadly, no, I don't deny it.  So?
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Deicide on September 12, 2011, 05:52:14 AM
The Roman Catholic church, and later even some reformers too?  Sadly, no, I don't deny it.  So?

I appreciate your honesty here. Protestant sects weren't much better on Jews.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 12, 2011, 05:54:26 AM
Uh, ever hear private conversations of jews?  They are some of the most bigoted racist people themselves.  No group has a monopoly on hate and aeitihists are some of the most hateful people there are.
Title: Re: Atheism is a good thing for humanity
Post by: loco on September 12, 2011, 05:56:41 AM
I appreciate your honesty here. Protestant sects weren't much better on Jews.

Some of the reformers were Roman Catholic too, and had been poisoned by centuries of antisemitism.  But now evangelicals are some of the greatest supporters and defenders of the Jews, even by some Jews' own words.